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2008 Vamos Argentina Davis Cup Thread

Action Jackson
02-05-2006, 11:36 AM
Well since Gaston looks very unlikely to play in the Davis Cup tie against the Swedes. It doesn't mean we can support the Argentine team whoever plays in it and yes that includes players we don't necessarily like.

They should be good enough to win this tie and the team of Nalle, Chela, Calleri and Acasuso isn't a bad team under the circumstances and any news relating to the tie would be appreciated for sure.

Vamos Argentina.

Choupi
02-05-2006, 12:10 PM
No matter who's playing, DC is a matter of supporting a team, and that's what I'm doing, whoever will play. Vamos Argentina. :) Sorry Sweden....

*Ljubica*
02-05-2006, 01:36 PM
And yes I know I hate Davis Cup :rolleyes: - but as you wanted any news relating to the tie - Clarins this morning say that Nabandian and Calleri have been confirmed as the doubles' team - singles' players not decided yet.

Choupi
02-05-2006, 02:06 PM
Thanks for the update Rosie. :)

Action Jackson
02-07-2006, 04:00 PM
http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=21318&a=533911&lid=puff_533911&lpos=lasMer

Wilander hoppfull inför DC-matchen
Argentina har skadeproblem

Publicerad 6 februari 2006 - 20:48
Uppdaterad 6 februari 2006 - 20:51

En snuvig Robin Söderling och övriga spelare i den svenska Davis Cup-truppen kom på måndagen till Buenos Aires inför helgens svåra match mot Argentina.
Hemmalaget är stor favorit trots att bland andra världsnian Gaston Gaudio lämnat återbud.

Robin Söderling som konkurrerar om en av singelplatserna var febrig och förkyld i slutet på förra veckan men har tillfrisknat snabbt.
-Det är fortfarande lite snuvigt men jag mår mycket bättre nu, säger Söderling i lobbyn till spelarhotellet.

Han siktar på spel i helgen, men då måste det kännas bra på de långa träningspassen som väntar i hettan i Buenos Aires de närmaste dagarna. Det är fortfarande osäkert hur det står till med hans fysiska form.

Glad Wilander
Förbundskaptenen Mats Wilander är mycket nöjd med Söderlings fina comeback på tennisplanen - seger i challenger-turneringen i tyska Heilbronn - efter att ha varit borta sedan i oktober i fjol på grund av en knäskada.

-Det betyder naturligtvis otroligt mycket att Söderling är tillbaka. Han är en mycket bra grusspelare även om det inte är hans favoritunderlag, menar Wilander.
Han kunde också konstatera att Argentinas lag blir allt tunnare, åtminstone på pappret. Förbundskaptenen Alberto Mancini har fått ösa ordentligt ur den ocean av klasspelare som landet fått fram. På måndagen kom beskedet att världsnian Gaudio har för stora problem med en axel för att kunna spela i helgen.

Ersättare blir formstarke José Acasuso (33:a i världen) som vann Chiles ATP-turnering i Vina del Mar i helgen i både singel och dubbel. Han konkurrerar med Juan Ignacio Chela (46:a) om vem som ska spela singel förutom den givna storstjärnan David Nalbandian.

Pressat hemmalag
Tennis är stort i Argentina trots att den kommer i skymundan av fotbollen - pressen på spelarna är hård. En seger mot Sverige är mer eller mindre ett krav.
Det är här förbundskaptenen Mats Wilander ser en möjlighet när några av de mest rutinerade och framgångsrika argentinarna inte finns med i helgen; Gaudio skadad, världssjuan Guillermo Coria ur form och Mariano Puerta dopningsavstängd. Alla tre var med i mastersslutspelet för ett par månader sedan.
-Spelarna där bakom är nästan lika bra men de kommer få en otrolig press på sig, menar Wilander förhoppningsfullt.


Wilander hopeful before the Davis Cup Match

Argentina have injury problems

Robin Söderling who is sufering from a cold and the remaining players in the Swedish Davis Cup team arrived in Buenos Aires on Monday before the very difficult match with Argentina on the weekend.

The home team is a huge favourite in spite of among others Gaston Gaudio the world number 9 announcing his withdrawl.

Robin Söderling who is competing for a singles place had a cold and a fever, at the end of last week, but has recovered quickly." The cold is still there, but I am a lot better now" said Söderling in the lobby of the Players Hotel.

He is wanting to play singles on the weekend, but must feel good in the long training sessions which are expected in the heat of Buenos Aires in the upcoming days. It is still not a certainty of how he feels with his physical conditioning.

Happy Wilander

Team captain Mats Wilander is very satisfied with Söderling's fine comeback on the court, a win in the Heilbronn challenger in Germany after having been away since October last year because of a knee problem.

"It naturally means a lot that Söderling is back. He is a very good player on clay, even if it is not his favourite surface" believes Wilander.

He could also state that the Argentina's team has become weaker, at least on paper. Team captain Alberto Mancini har got an ocean of class players to chose from. On Monday came the information that the world number 9 Gaston Gaudio has big problems with his shoulder and that he won't play singles on the weekend.

The replacement is the in the form Jose Acasuso ranked 33 in the world, who won singles and doubles in Viña del Mar. He is competing with the 46th ranked Juan Ignacio Chela, to see whom will play singles apart from the undoubted superstar David Nalbandian.

Pressure on home team

Tennis is big in Argentina despite it being neglected to football, the pressure on the players is hard. A win against Sweden is more or less a requirement.

This is how DC captain Mats Wilander sees a possiblity when some of the most experienced and most successful Argentines are not there on the weekend. Gaudio is injured, Coria out of form and Mariano Puerta out with a doping ban. All three were in the TMC two months ago.

The players there are just nearly as good but they may get unbelieveable pressure on them" says Wilander hopefully.

Choupi
02-07-2006, 04:44 PM
Thanks for the translation. :) Well, nice to read Swedish Captain's pretty confident....I agree about that pressure on players, turning into requirement to win. But I doubt it'll affect as much their game. Anyway, we'll see soon enough.

Vale
02-07-2006, 05:46 PM
Thanks, George, for translating that interesting article! The Swedes have been in Punta del Este training on clay for the past week, so they should be feeling more comfortable with the surface. I can tell you that there is no euphoria here about the tie, everybody acknowledges that it will be difficult...

Action Jackson
02-07-2006, 05:49 PM
Yes, I knew they have been in Uruguay, the benefits of knowing some Swedish people :) . At the same time Wilander and Vinciguerra are the best Swedes on clay, but Argentina should be good enough to win this tie and no it won't be easy.

Action Jackson
02-09-2006, 08:24 AM
The great news is my favourite northern Argentine Chucho is playing in the singles along side Nalbandian.

It will be his first tie for Argentina and all the best for him and the team.

Vale
02-09-2006, 02:07 PM
La Nación officializes rumours:

Coria said he'd backed out because there were other players who were playing better than he was, and then Mancini contradicted him, saying that Coria had NOT self-excluded himself.
Well, those were the first two versions, but today La Nación emphasizes a third which has been suggested recently (as it's a serious paper that double-checks its information, I tend to believe this account).

The title is "Living in a world full of suspicions" and this is the excerpt about the Davis Cup:

"And what about the Davis Cup? Haven't you heard about the famous player (rumoured to be Nalbandian) who requested that a colleague should not be included in the team because relations with him had deteriorated in recent months? For the tie against Sweden, Coria's being left out was camouflaged alleging his current lack of form and a serve that will require something more than magic to acquire consistency, but, mainly, it was eclipsed by Nalbandian's present level. But if one proclaims "the most important thing is the team spirit", it should be put into practice and not just enunciated.
As Gaudio commented to someone close to him: "Even if Coria is not playing well, he's a crack player, and the cracks must always be on the team"."


http://www.lanacion.com.ar/779165

Action Jackson
02-09-2006, 02:10 PM
Interesting news Vale and yes La Nacion isn't a stupid newspaper, but Gaudio is right in his last comments.

Vale
02-09-2006, 02:33 PM
The first part of this article is interesting, about the DC in general:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/sullivan/20060208-9999-1s8sullivan.html

Unwieldy cup format makes it tough for patriotic players


UNION-TRIBUNE
February 8, 2006

The Davis Cup runneth over with defections.

Roger Federer, the world's No. 1 tennis player, has bailed out of Switzerland's first-round match against Australia, citing the need to “listen to my body.”

Rafael Nadal and Lleyton Hewitt, the highest-ranking players of Spain and Australia, have listened to their bodies and heard ankles pleading for mercy. Both players have begged out of this week's Davis Cup competition, purportedly to nurse their injuries. Both, however, have agreed to compete next week.

The world's most unwieldy sporting event starts Friday at the La Jolla Beach & Tennis Club and seven other international sites, but it won't end until Dec. 3 in Parts Unknown. Small wonder, then, that so many leading players get into it looking for a way out.

Competing for one's country is an honor, a privilege and, generally speaking, a great career move. But for the itinerant millionaires of international tennis, the Davis Cup can be daunting. It is an annual event that involves a huge, open-ended commitment. It's like jury duty with line judges.

“The problem is really the schedule is overcrowded,” U.S. captain Patrick McEnroe said yesterday. “I don't think it's a Davis Cup problem, per se. It's a tennis problem.”

A growing tennis problem, it would seem.

Last year, the world's top 15 players all participated in Davis Cup matches. This week, only nine of the top 15 are involved, and just five of the top 11.


Of the last 10 men to win Grand Slam singles titles, only American Andy Roddick will be playing for national pride this weekend. Some of the Davis Cup absences are attributable to legitimate ailments – Argentina's Gaston Gaudio was recently replaced because of a shoulder injury – and Pete Sampras rates a dispensation for being retired. Still, the big picture is problematical.

McEnroe says the problem is the product of a “relentless” schedule, particularly for the top players. Unlike most other sports, the tennis calendar does not conform to a specific season. The Grand Slam events start in January and stretch into September, and even after the U.S. Open there are 17 more events on the ATP calendar.

Hewitt's manager, Rob Aivatoglou, justified his client's withdrawal with simple math. He said each Davis Cup round requires three weeks of preparation and playing and could therefore tie up 12 weeks of a player's time.

“Unfortunately, we're in a position where we're playing pretty close to 11 months of the year,” Roddick said during a media conference yesterday afternoon in La Jolla. “Something's got to give, but I haven't figured out what yet. I want to try to do it all.

“Davis Cup is definitely on the top of my list of priorities, though. We haven't won it (since 1995). That's something that's a huge, huge goal for me personally and for us as a team. It would be tough, not having accomplished that goal, to sit out and not commit to it. I've told the captain that I'm committed to this cause as long as he wants me here. That stands true.”

Roddick's commitment is commendable. At 23, the world's third-ranked player will be competing on his sixth U.S. Davis Cup team this weekend against Romania, and he served previously as a practice partner. Roddick is 17-6 in Davis Cup competition, and he also claims an assist for the 1992 American victory over Switzerland. He was, at the time, 10 years old.

While attending the finals in Fort Worth, Texas, Roddick remembers being struck by the noise the Swiss fans generated by clanging cow bells and resolved to restore America's home-court advantage. With an older brother as an accessory, he scoured the city for ear-splitting equipment, finally settling on a pair of bicycle air horns.

The Roddick brothers stationed themselves on opposite sides of the Tarrant County Center in an effort to counteract the cow bells.

“I asked Jim Courier a couple of years ago if he actually remembered it,” Roddick said. “He goes, 'That was you? God, those things were annoying.' ”

Andy Roddick has never lost the enthusiasm that experience engendered, and that's admirable. Yet it would be unfair and simplistic to expect every top player to be so overtly patriotic in setting his schedule.

Athletes have always valued the chance to compete for their country, but it should not be seen as a never-ending obligation. Just as no one should think less of a soldier who declines to re-enlist, no one should expect a tennis player to play Davis Cup indefinitely.

Great Britain's Tim Henman played 50 Davis Cup matches over 11 years before retiring from the competition last month. A man can only stretch himself so thin for so long.

“How can you blame (him)?” Patrick McEnroe asked. “He finally gets to be in his 30s and says, 'You know, something has to give because the system has not changed. If the system isn't going to change, I've got to protect myself.' ”

If the Davis Cup is to remain relevant, it had better become more user-friendly.


Tim Sullivan: (619) 293-1033; tim.sullivan@uniontrib.com

Action Jackson
02-09-2006, 02:44 PM
The problem with that article is that it is short sighted about DC. Just like my signature people only care about top players getting injured and it's the same for DC.

Yes, Americans don't care about DC, but there a lot of people and nations that do and also these ties actually give federations some money and the ITF are loathe to change something which will effect tennis negatively.

Stars whine about DC, if the ITF changed the structure, then the stars would find another excuse not to play.

Vale
02-09-2006, 02:53 PM
Nalbandian will play first tomorrow against Soderling, at 11 AM local time (2 PM GMT), followed by Acasuso-Johansson. TyC Sports will televise.

Typo fixed. :)

Action Jackson
02-09-2006, 03:43 PM
Hello lurkers and Coria fans.

As Gaudio commented to someone close to him: "Even if Coria is not playing well, he's a crack player, and the cracks must always be on the team"."

In English 101 this means something very simple.

Coria is one of the best players and even if he isn't in form, he should always be in the team. Why? Cause he can play fantastic tennis and is one of the best players in Argentina.

Not hard to work out.

Action Jackson
02-09-2006, 05:53 PM
Vale is always happy to share translations with people as long as she is acknowledged for doing it.

RogiFan88
02-09-2006, 09:14 PM
Vamos, la Legion Argentina!

[as for that article re: DC... I say let Stan prove himself for SUI -- a great opportunity for him to shine without the No 1 guy -- after all, he says HE can beat Fed AND he apparently cheered for Baggy at the AO06 F... ALLEZ, LA SUISSE! what does it matter when SUI barely has a chance to win DC?]

Vale
02-09-2006, 09:28 PM
I was SURE that the word "crack" existed in English to denote a star player, but I suddenly doubted my memory :rolleyes: so I consulted my very complete dictionary! Among the many meanings, I found this one:
Crack: champion, excellent player. Also: excellent, superior, first rate.
In fact, I think the Argentines borrowed the English word and turned it into "crac"!

RogiFan88
02-09-2006, 10:06 PM
Vale, I've never really heard the word "crack" used in English the way it's used in French or Spanish... I guess we w say "ace" or "champion". Interesting word I've always thought anyway. ;) In fact, when I hear "crack" I think cocaine!

Sue
02-10-2006, 09:38 AM
*Crack* has been used here in the UK to describe someone who's good at something......but as RF said more recently its use is pretty much confined to being a slang word for cocaine. Hope that helps?

Vale
02-10-2006, 05:36 PM
*Crack* has been used here in the UK to describe someone who's good at something......but as RF said more recently its use is pretty much confined to being a slang word for cocaine. Hope that helps?
Thanks, Sue! :) I guess it's the same case as the word "gay": it's latest meaning has superseded all the previous ones...

Vale
02-10-2006, 05:39 PM
Nalbandian defeated Soderling 3-6, 6-2, 6-4, 6-1 :D
Now the Acasuso-Johansson rubber has started. Vamos Chucho!!!

Action Jackson
02-11-2006, 05:45 AM
:worship: :worship: :worship: Chucho

An excellent performance from the number 2 and gave ToJo and absolute hiding 6-1 6-1 6-3 and now the Argentines have a 2-0 lead after Nalle was able to do enough to beat the toad.

Only one more match to go guys before a potential quarter final with Croatia, but this is a good thing and there should be competition for places in the Argentine team.

Action Jackson
02-11-2006, 07:26 AM
For you Chucho and he is on the right.

http://www.overclock.net/images/smilies/buttkick.gif

Choupi
02-11-2006, 08:47 AM
Well done team Argentina. Great news to wake up to. I can see the famous smiley is out again. I'm rooting for Argentina in this tie, but can I comfort ToJo, especially after the smiley treatment. Must be painful......and if the captain wanna join, I don't mind. :o ;)

Action Jackson
02-11-2006, 10:04 AM
http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=21318&a=537016&lid=puff_537016&lpos=lasMer

Thomas Johansson utklassad av reserv
Publicerad 10 februari 2006 - 20:21
Uppdaterad 10 februari 2006 - 21:08

Den argentinske reserven Jose Acasuso utklassade Thomas Johansson med 6-1,6-1,6-3 och nu är Sverige i brygga inför DC-fortsättningen.

Laget ligger under med 2-0 och nu måste Simon Aspelin/Jonas Björkman vinna morgondagens dubbel för att hålla liv i matchen.

-Det var en kille på banan. Han var mycket bättre än jag idag och hade inget att sätt emot, menar Thomas Johansson enligt TT.

Mats Wilander menade efter matchen att Jose Acasuso är bäst i världen.


Thomas Johansson outclassed by replacement

The Argentine reserve Jose Acasuso outclassed Thomas Johansson 6-1 6-1 6-3 and now Sweden are in the bridge about DC continuation

The team is down 2-0 and Simon Aspelin/Jonas Björkman must now win tomorrows doubles to keep alive in the match.

"There was a guy on court. Today, he was much better than me and had nothing to stand up against", believed Thomas Johansson according to TT

Mats Wilander believed "after the match that Jose Acasuso is the best in the world".

I like Chucho, but that's funny.

Florencia
02-11-2006, 05:59 PM
ARGENTINA WON THE DOUBLES :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:

VAMOS ARGENTINA !!!

Florencia
02-11-2006, 06:06 PM
Good for Gaston and Guillermo Coria that (yesterday and today respectively) watched the match and supported the team.

Vale
02-11-2006, 07:40 PM
Good for Gaston and Guillermo Coria that (yesterday and today respectively) watched the match and supported the team.
I didn´t see Gastón yesterday because I was at work and TyC didn´t repeat the matches. :( But Coria today was VERY MUCH in evidence!

It was a great day, anyway! :D Perfect weather, not overly hot, a wonderful public, and Calleri the better of the two this time.
Tomorrow the dead rubbers will be played by Chela against Johansson and Acasuso against Soderling.

Action Jackson
02-13-2006, 05:46 AM
Good 5-0 win to Argentina.

The big test is coming though.

MeluG
02-14-2006, 01:57 AM
I will be trashed to say this here but the dream might be over. It will be impossible for the guys to defeat Croatia. Nalbandian alone won't make it. They will choose the super fast court and that's it. Sad but true :(

Action Jackson
02-14-2006, 05:12 AM
I will be trashed to say this here but the dream might be over. It will be impossible for the guys to defeat Croatia. Nalbandian alone won't make it. They will choose the super fast court and that's it. Sad but true :(

I am not sure about impossible, but it will be very difficult for them to win and it's sensible to acknowledge this.

Action Jackson
03-22-2006, 06:29 AM
It looks like barring injuries the team will be the same for the Croatian tie. With Nalbandian, Acasuso, Calleri and Chela.

Thanks to an article translated by Vale which says Gaudio won't play in Zagreb, it's the commonsense decision in this case.

Vale
03-23-2006, 12:35 PM
http://www.sportinglife.com/tennis/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=international_feed/06/03/21/TENNIS_Arg-Davis_Cup.html

Gaudio - withdrawn from contention.

SAME AGAIN FOR MANCINI

Argentina look set to name an unchanged squad for their Davis Cup quarter-final against Croatia after Gaston Gaudio withdrew from contention.

Gaudio is not thought to be in peak condition and does not relish the challenge posed by the fast surfaces in Zagreb, where the Argentina side will play between April 7-9.

That means coach Alberto Mancini will stick with the same party that hammered Sweden 5-0 in Buenos Aires, with David Nalbandian, Juan Ignacio Chela, Agustin Calleri and Jose Acasuso all set to be retained.

Mancini, in an interview with www.ole.com.ar, was in confident mood, citing last year's quarter-final appearance in Australia as a source of inspiration.

"We have a chance to beat Croatia. After what we did in Australia, nothing is impossible.

"It'll be a crucial match, but I think the key will be in the doubles match and the duels against Mario Ancic.

"I always dream of winning the Davis Cup."

MeluG
03-24-2006, 07:02 PM
I think that Gaston's excuses are not viable anymore. He should take a side and stick to the possible consequences: he cannot say "I would like to win the DC" or " We have good players to win it" or "We all play on the same side". Nobody believes that anymore. And personally (I will be trashed for saying this) since many articles have been questioning GG's choice of autoexcluding himself of the DC team once again, they all have a point. You cannot expect the media to always write pink stuff about Gaudio, he make mistakes and sometimes good writers point that out.
It is true, Gaston's tennis present is not good, but he's not injured. "Go out and play man! Maybe things change, and you come out victorious or maybe you lose 0-6 0-6 0-6, so what? At least you had the guts to play and say: watch me, I represent the present history of tennis" (Quoting Guillermo Vilas talking about Gaudio after MAlaga shock in a Espn interview in december 2005).
I hope Gaston won't play next time (if the team now wins) in clay only because it's clay, because that would not be fair for the guys who have been struggling when nobody wanted to do so. It's all I expect. I'm sorry but if Argentina wins the DC this year (very unlikely) Gaston had NOTHING to do with it, and that's how it shold be if it will.

Action Jackson
03-25-2006, 03:14 AM
First of all personally I don't give a crap who plays in the Argentine team as long as it's the best team they can field and win the Davis Cup. It's not a popularity contest.

Ok, here is the scenario Gaston has been playing like crap for quite a while. A Davis Cup tie is coming up and knowing that he has been playing like crap. Why would he be selected to play? Reputations don't win matches.

No need to forget about the last time Gaston played for Argentina when he wasn't in form. The team they have now is the best one under the circumstances and as for the next tie, whatever happens will happen.

If Gaston is playing well enough at the time to be selected, then he should be and that's the same for Coria as well. Luli is fleixble and has to be in his position to pick the right team to suit those particular conditions.

On a fast indoor court Gaston is worse than Nalle, Acasuso and Calleri and probably Chela as well. It should be about what's best for the team and not who gets the glory.

Action Jackson
04-04-2006, 09:31 AM
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/deportiva/nota.asp?nota_id=794456

The basic summary is that

Time to Adapt

The whole team is there in Zagreb and they are having double training to adjust to the surface as quickly as possible.

Nalle, Chela and Calleri were training in the first session and Acasuso and the youngster Emiliano Massa was there as well.

Mancini said " It seems the court is very fast and the one in the Paris- Bercy tournament is a little bit faster. The team is adapting well, working hard and so I have confidence"

Nalle and Calleri were working with Lucas Arnold an assistant to Mancini and partner to Nalle in 3 DC wins

Mancini repeated his speech about the differences between the Davis Cup and ATP. Ljubo is in very goiod form and Mancini said "Davis Cup is different and it's a great moment for a player and he has the confidence which is reflected in his results on the circuit."

They expect Ljubo to play and his doubtful participation is a strategic move to distract them.

Choupi
04-04-2006, 10:34 AM
Thanks for these updates. Good that Mancini is confident. I just hope his words aren't only politeness...

reiko
04-04-2006, 11:19 AM
I saw an article and it looks nice - I hope someone will provide translation or gist but for now I put the article and WEB TRANSLATION.

On the right column of the article there is a link to AUDIO of about 8 1/2 minutes - it is all Gaston!!! Gaston sounds quite OK there or is it only me?


http://www.clarin.com/diario/2006/04/03/um/m-01170557.htm

Gaudio: “La serie depende muchísimo de David”


El Gato comentó que Nalbandian será el factor decisivo en Argentina - Croacia, por los cuartos de la Copa Davis. Además, dijo que el equipo de Mancini "tiene más experiencia y puede ganar".



Su nivel por estos días, hace que deba ver la serie ente Argentina y Croacia por la Davis por televisión. Gastón Gaudio reconoce que es lógico que esté fuera del equipo aunque apoya desde afuera: “La serie se puede ganar”.

El Gato, en declaraciones al programa “Hay equipo”, por Radio Mitre, dijo que “Argentina tiene más experiencia y puede ganar la serie”. “Ljubicic pasa por un buen momento, pero no sé si tiene chapa para ganarle por una Davis contra David”, agregó.

Con respecto al single número uno y capitán de Croacia, Gaudio comentó: “Pasa por un momento increíble, pero no es un jugador que diga ‘Uy qué difícil es ganarle’”.

Además, el Gato explicó que para la serie que se viene, él pondría a Chela a jugar el viernes y a Calleri el domingo. “A Agustín lo vi jugar increíble cuando es punto, por eso lo pondría el domingo para definir”.

También, el argentino aclaró que no piensa retirarse y que lo que dijo, “fue el comentario que uno hace después de un mal día”. Y su mal momento, explica, se debe fundamentalmente al cansancio. “Hace dos años seguidos que estoy jugando sin parar, y así se hace muy difícil”.

Para cerrar, el Gato no dudó en qué contestar cuando le preguntaron quien estaba mejor, si él o el Rojo, club del cual es hincha. “Independiente anda peor”, tiró de inmediato. “Yo en los dos últimos dos años estuve jugando mejor”, remató a las carcajadas. Un Gaudio auténtico.


WEB TRANSLATION
20:11 | Gaudio: “The series depends a lot of David”

The Cat commented that Nalbandian will be the decisive factor in Argentina - Croatia, by the rooms of the Cup Davis. Besides, it said that the team of Mancini "has more experience and can gain".



Its level by these days, does that should to see the series entity Argentina and Croatia by the Davis by television. Gastón Gaudio recognizes that is logical that be outside of the team although supports since outside: “The series can be gained”.

The Cat, in statements al programs “there is team”, by Radio Mitre, said that “Argentina has more experience and can gain the series”. “Ljubicic passes for a good moment, but I do not know if has sheet to gain him for a Davis against David”, added.

With respect al single number one and captain of Croatia, Gaudio commented: “It passes for an incredible moment, but is not a player that say ‘Ugh how difficult it is to gain him' ”.

Besides, the Cat explained that for the series that comes, he would put to Cello to play Friday and to Calleri Sunday. “To Augustine I saw it to play incredible when is point, therefore would put it Sunday to define”.

Also, the Argentine clarified that he does not think to be withdrawn and that what said, “was the comment that one does after a badly day”. And its badly moment, explains, al is owed fundamentally exhaustion. “Two years in a row ago that I am playing without stopping, and thus is done very difficult”.

To close, the Cat did not doubt in what to answer when they asked him who was better, if he or the Red one, club of which is a supporter. “Independent he walks worse”, he threw immediately. “I in the two last two years was playing better”, he concluded to the laughter. A Gaudio authentic.

taysbest
04-04-2006, 12:44 PM
Thanks for that Reiko!! I listened to the whole thing even though my Spanish is not good at all. He sounds ok to me too! :D

Vale
04-05-2006, 04:51 PM
http://www.tennis-x.com/story/2006-04-04/j.php

Argentina at Croatia


Posted on April 04, 2006

Site: DOM Sportova, Zagreb, Croatia
Surface: Indoor carpet (Taraflex)
Ball: Pro Penn ATP

Remember when Argentina was a Davis Cup force? Probably not, because they really never have been -- barely a blip on the radar since the World Group was created in 1981.


It was back in '81 that the Gauchos reached their lone Davis Cup World Group final, with Guillermo Vilas and Jose-Luis Clerc stopped by the U.S. squad of John McEnroe and Roscoe Tanner. McEnroe as usual did the heavy lifting, winning both his singles and the doubles with Peter Fleming to clinch the tie 3-1.

The Argentines managed a semifinal in '83 and a quarterfinal in '84 before getting bounced from the World Group in 1988-89, and during a nine-year stretch from 1993-2001.

The year 2002 seemed to mark a Davis Cup resurgence for Argentina with players such as Gaston Gaudio, Guillermo Canas, and Juan Ignacio Chela in the mix, and Guillermo Coria brought on in 2004. But while the Argentines have maintained World Group status since 2002, between injuries and opponents putting them on slick surfaces they've been unable to fare any better than the semifinals, still without a championship-round berth since 1981.

This weekend the trend continues in Croatia.

Ivan Ljubicic is coming off the event in Miami where he nearly dispatched of the entire Argentine Davis Cup team en route to the final. The service bomb-dropping Mario "Baby Goran" Ancic will fill the No. 2 singles spot as the Gauchos again facing a weekend on ice-fast indoor carpet.

The Croats will perform in both singles and doubles, while Argentina will front David Nalbandian, and either Agustin Calleri or Chela in singles, and a doubles combination likely including Juan Acasuso.

For the Croats a win would be sweet revenge from their last meeting in the 2002 quarterfinals, where the Argentines rolled out their favored mud-slow red clay, but still needed the final singles match to clinch as Gaudio straight-setted Croat "Dr." Ivo Karlovic. Due to what seems to be a dispute with the Croat Federeration over money, or with captain Ljubicic, or both, Karlovic is not on Croatia's quarterfinal squad.

"Overall in the series, I think it's absolutely open," says Ljubicic who anticipates a tight tie. "I think doubles, it's gonna be very important because David (Nalbandian), the way he plays now, it's going to be very hard to beat him. I think it's definitely the best match of the quarterfinals of the Davis Cup...(Calleri) has a big game. He's a very dangerous opponent.

Compounding problems for Argentina is the absence of one of their best fast-court players, Guillermo Coria, who remains at No. 7 on the ATP Rankings with a lowly 4-4 record in 2006. The confidence-challenged former French Open runner-up has gone into seclusion with new coach Jose Higueras, practicing for what he hopes will be a coming-out party during the claycourt season.


-- Tennis-X.com

Choupi
04-05-2006, 07:54 PM
Thanks for this update Vale. We should listen to Ljubo. He's a wise man. If he says it's an open tie, it's an open tie!! :p

I just love the Mario "Baby Goran" Ancic comment. Too good!! :yeah:

Action Jackson
04-07-2006, 06:02 AM
Ljubo is a funny guy saying that Argentina are the favourites, he is kidding himself.

http://www.daviscup.com/shared/medialibrary/image/gallery/DC_5740_gallery.JPG

So far it seems it's a 2 man team vs another 2 man team.

That's the Order of Play

Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) v Agustin Calleri (ARG)
Mario Ancic (CRO) v David Nalbandian (CRO)
Mario Ancic / Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) v Agustin Calleri / David Nalbandian (ARG)
Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) v David Nalbandian (ARG)
Mario Ancic (CRO) v Agustin Calleri (ARG)

Choupi
04-07-2006, 07:17 AM
Thanks. I wish I could watch this tie.

Action Jackson
04-07-2006, 05:01 PM
Calleri was up 2 sets to love and a mini break in the tiebreaker and couldn't do the job.

Hope Nalle and the guys can win in doubles.

Luli Mancini

http://www.daviscup.com/shared/medialibrary/image/gallery/DC_5785_gallery.JPG

Calleri

http://www.daviscup.com/shared/medialibrary/image/gallery/DC_5781_gallery.JPG

Fans

http://www.daviscup.com/shared/medialibrary/image/gallery/DC_5779_gallery.JPG

Vale
04-07-2006, 06:39 PM
Calleri said "I left my life out on the court, I have nothing to reproach myself for", :worship: and Mancini and the team were very appreciative of all he'd done. Let's face it, Ljubicic is 5 in the world and could be expected to turn around an adverse score! But thanks to the Gordo he was obliged to play for four hours!

Choupi
04-08-2006, 08:52 AM
Discovering about the result only now. Well, I'm sure Calleri gave the best he could. We expect so much in DC because the special spirit and mood contribute sometimes to create some miracles....But yes, it was Ljubo he was playing. We shouldn't forget about that. Time to cheer for the doubles now. :)

Action Jackson
04-08-2006, 10:04 AM
http://www.daviscup.com/shared/medialibrary/image/gallery/DC_5787_gallery.JPG

He fought so hard and made Ljubo work very hard for the victory and now it's up to the team to take advantage of this situation and try and get the win in the doubles.

It seems that Chucho might be playing doubles today with Nalbandian and they are prepared to face Ancic, but we'll see soon enough.

Choupi
04-08-2006, 12:39 PM
Awwww Agustin looks so disappointed. I think I'd agree with Rosie here. If he needs some :hug: .....:angel: ;)

Good luck to the team today. :)

Action Jackson
04-08-2006, 03:07 PM
The guys are up 2 sets to 1 that being Chucho and Nalle and they really need to stay focused and win in 4 sets.

Can't waste bp chances either.

Action Jackson
04-08-2006, 04:08 PM
Chucho/Nalbandian defeat Ljubicic/Cilic 6-4 6-2 3-6 6-4

Nalbasuso did the job today and thanks for that, but they still have a lot of work to do and they will need Nalbandian to finish it tomorrow.

As much as I like Chucho, Chela and Calleri these aren't guys you want to play for your life.

Action Jackson
04-08-2006, 05:21 PM
http://www.daviscup.com/shared/medialibrary/image/gallery/DC_5865_gallery.JPG

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/ANEXOS/imagenVistaPreliminar/507321_224.JPG

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/04/08/um/fotos/davis.jpg

Choupi
04-08-2006, 06:32 PM
Good job guys!! :bounce: Good luck for tomorrow Argentina. :)

Action Jackson
04-08-2006, 06:54 PM
The team of Nalbasuso made the running.

http://www.daviscup.com/news/matchreport.asp?id=13748#audio

Argentina takes a step nearer the last four

David Nalbandian and Jose Acasuso defeated Marin Cilic and Ivan Ljubicic 6-4 62 36 64 to give Argentina a 2-1 lead in the Davis Cup by BNP Paribas World Group quarterfinal tie against Croatia in Zagreb. The Argentines have successfully rebounded after losing the opening rubber and are now one step away from a home semifinal tie against Australia.

Both teams made changes from the original nominations. Mario Ancic is nursing a back problem and was replaced by Marin Cilic. And for Argentina, Agustin Calleri , who played and lost a heartbreaker on Friday, was replaced by Jose Acasuso, the best ranked Argentinian doubles player. David Nalbandian was expecting a much tougher match had Ancic played.

"No doubt. It would have been extremely difficult had Ancic played. Marin Cilic is a talented player but made many mistakes at the beginning of the match".

The doubles match looked a pretty easy affair for the most part of the first two sets.
It was a one-way street from the start as Ivan Ljubicic was broken in the very first game of the match and Cilic made some easy volley mistakes under pressure. Acasuso and Nalbandian took full advantage and eased to the first set.

Things got worse for the Croats in the second set. Cilic and Ljubicic both dropped serves, and the match looked all but over. But, as on Friday, Ljubicic led a comeback, taking an early break in the third and holding on to take the set.

Argentina, the better team

The fourth set was also a tight affair. Ljubicic saved two break points in the fourth game as did Acasuso in the ninth before Cilic’s serve was broken. Some poor volleys, deprived the Croats of a fourth set tie-break, but the bottom line of this story is that Argentina was the better team.

Ljubicic was full of praise for Marin Cilic.

"Apart from the first game of the match Cilic played great. It was a great experience. The Argentinians were a better team, but if we took the fourth set, who know. Better and more lucky".

Cilic felt the same as his captain, the rest of the Argentinians, Jose Acasuso, and the captain Alberto Mancini felt it was a "tough match, but Argentina played better in the end".

Croatia in unfamiliar position

The Croatian dream is wearing thin at the moment, as for the first time since 2004 against France in Metz in the Davis Cup World Group first round, Croatia is in the losing position after the doubles. On both occasions, Croatia was without its best doubles team. Now they will have to fight for their lives.

"On Thursday I said we need a miracle. Now I say, we need one surprise, one big, big surprise".

That's how Ivan Ljubicic sees things. Dark cloud still reigns over Mario Ancic fitness, and he is unlikely to play.

"This morning Mario looked more postive, but for him to play on Sunday, if the fifth rubber will be a decider, he must be 100% fit. We hope, but it's a long shot. We certainly want Mario to play, before even thinking about Cilic or Sasa Tuksar".

But first things first. Nalbandian has a chance to put this match out of Croatia’s reach.

"Our chances grow by the day. Ivan is a great player, this surface is fine for both of us. It will be a tough match, we'll see".

On Sunday, Nalbandian takes on Ljubicic in the first of the reverse singles, with Agustin Calleri and Ancic nominated for the fifth rubber

Vale
04-08-2006, 11:07 PM
Congrats to the Argentine team!!! :D
Mancini said in a post-match interview that Calleri was in quite a lot of pain after yesterday´s match, which had made the problem in his leg worse, so it´s likely that he won´t be able to play tomorrow and Chela will play the fifth rubber!

Choupi
04-09-2006, 08:13 AM
Thanks for the info Vale. Poor Agustin. :awww:

Action Jackson
04-09-2006, 10:26 AM
I hope it doesn't come down to Chela in the 5th match.

RogiFan88
04-09-2006, 04:09 PM
Unfortunately, it is... and Chubby is down a set to Tuksar 36 23 so far.

Action Jackson
04-09-2006, 04:11 PM
Foolish choice even if Chela wins this match.

Choupi
04-09-2006, 04:17 PM
Too late to whin about the choice now. Can't turn back time. Vamos Chelita!!!

Action Jackson
04-09-2006, 04:41 PM
1 set all now

Vamos chubby, get over the line.

Choupi
04-09-2006, 04:49 PM
Vamos Chela!! Please.....

Action Jackson
04-09-2006, 04:54 PM
1-3

Chela seems to be doing everything he can not win this match.

Peta Pan
04-09-2006, 04:55 PM
:silly:
Go Sasa, Go Juan Ignacio
I'm so confused/torn
:silly:

Action Jackson
04-09-2006, 05:52 PM
Chela wins the 3rd set 7-6 and 8-6 in the breaker.

Finish the job Chela now.

Choupi
04-09-2006, 05:56 PM
Yes please. Stop the suspense now. Win in 4 Chela. :bounce:

Choupi
04-09-2006, 07:23 PM
He did it, he did it!!!! Chela brought the final and decisive point. Argentina is in the semi. :banana: :bounce: :woohoo: :dance:

Action Jackson
04-09-2006, 07:23 PM
Chela fumbles his way through Tuksar 3-6 6-4 7-6 (6) 7-6 (5). Got to say that was a very fortunate win and now they made the semis.

They will be at home against the Australians and will look good for the final now.

Peta Pan
04-10-2006, 10:24 AM
GOoooooooooooo Aussies :)

I'm going to put on my patriotic hat for this one. Only the 3rd time ever!!

Action Jackson
04-10-2006, 01:39 PM
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2006/04/09/um/fotos/chela.jpg

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/anexos/imagen/06/507858.jpg

Choupi
04-10-2006, 03:52 PM
Nice pics. Thanks!! :)

RogiFan88
04-10-2006, 05:52 PM
Chela fumbles his way through Tuksar 3-6 6-4 7-6 (6) 7-6 (5). Got to say that was a very fortunate win and now they made the semis.

They will be at home against the Australians and will look good for the final now.


Well done, Chela!

What happened to Nalby vs. Ljubicic? Didn't he lose to him in Miami also?? :p

Yep, ARG d AUS, that's my prediction... yeah, takes a rocket scientist to guess that outcome... I think it's ARG's year to win the DC... I don't want AUS, USA or RUS winning it... they've already got theirs. ;)

Vale
04-13-2006, 05:17 PM
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,18810848%255E3162,00.html

Mancini primes big guns

Leo Schlink
14apr06

ARGENTINE captain Alberto Mancini yesterday tipped the return of claycourt guns Gaston Gaudio and Guillermo Coria for September's Davis Cup semi-final against Australia.


Mancini's declaration came as Lleyton Hewitt confirmed he would contest only three European claycourt events this year.

Hewitt will not resume competition until the Hamburg Masters on May 15 before venturing to Portschach in Austria ahead of the May 28-June 11 French Open in Paris.

Ranked 12th in the world, Hewitt missed the claycourt season last year because of rib and foot injuries.

He will not make a decision on whether to play the Davis Cup semi-final until later in the season.

Australian captain John Fitzgerald is optimistic Hewitt will head the team for the September 22-24 tie in Buenos Aires, but security issues are paramount in Hewitt's considerations for what looms as a hostile engagement.

Hewitt has entered the Thai Open in Bangkok from September 25, a day after the tie.

Mancini, a central figure in an ugly post-match Australian Open locker-room confrontation last year between Hewitt and Juan Ignacio Chela, believes Hewitt will play in Buenos Aires.

Having guided Argentina to a 3-2 victory over Croatia in Zagreb this week, Mancini yesterday turned his attention to French Open winner Gaudio and Roland Garros finalist Coria.

"Now is not the time to decide who will play in September," he said. "The important thing is that all players are fit, including Gaston and Guillermo.

"Near the time, we will see who is better."

Action Jackson
04-13-2006, 05:20 PM
Mancini, a central figure in an ugly post-match Australian Open locker-room confrontation last year between Hewitt and Juan Ignacio Chela, believes Hewitt will play in Buenos Aires.

Interesting, since it was Pantera that was more involved in this and not Mancini. Though they had some fun in Sydney, not as much as they did when they won.

Choupi
04-13-2006, 05:23 PM
Thanks for the info Vale. :)

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 08:01 AM
Rosie, might want to avoid this thread, considering the subject matter.

Gaston from my reports is the 5th player in case anyone of the main 4 players Nalbandian, Acasuso, Calleri and Chela withdraw from the tie against Australia. As much as he would love to play a part in getting Argentina to the final, his overall form hasn't deserved selection.

They should win this handily and make the final. If they play Russia it will be in Russia and if it's against the Yanks, then it will be in Buenos Aires.

Choupi
09-05-2006, 09:56 AM
Vamos Argentina, whoever plays in the tie.

justClaudia
09-05-2006, 03:11 PM
I wish Gaston could play, instead of Juan Ignacio....but yeah, not likely to happen. Good luck anyway, whoever plays, I hope they can win this tie.

*Ljubica*
09-05-2006, 04:28 PM
Rosie, might want to avoid this thread, considering the subject matter.

Gaston from my reports is the 5th player in case anyone of the main 4 players Nalbandian, Acasuso, Calleri and Chela withdraw from the tie against Australia. As much as he would love to play a part in getting Argentina to the final, his overall form hasn't deserved selection.

They should win this handily and make the final. If they play Russia it will be in Russia and if it's against the Yanks, then it will be in Buenos Aires.
Don't worry - just started to read it - but will definately be avoiding it in the next few weeks - DC :yawn: :devil: (just my opinion and one I have stated clearly in the past and won't bore you all with again!) Hope you all have fun talking about it though - wouldn't do if we all liked the same things in life would it :wavey:

Caralimon
09-08-2006, 03:18 AM
http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.php?Idx=275059&IdxSeccion=100795

The clock is ticking, and the tie is getting closer between Argentina and Australia. The team is supposed to be Nalbandian, Chela, Calleri and Acasuso

In the past months, there was some big topics sorrounding this tie. The first one, referred to the argentinian players and their perfomances in the last couple of months. The other one, the appearance, or abscense of Lleyton Hewitt, best australian player.

But almost no one talked about Gaston Gaudio, why wasn't he in the squad?

Excluding the known head-issues that Gaudio is used to suffer on the tennis courts, the argentinian raised his level the last months and a lot of people thought he standed a chance for the tie. Even the captain was seriously thinking in that option.

But in the last couple of hours, a rumor trascended that this absence wasn't decided by his latest achievements, but a call from the powerful men in the tennis burocracy.

Now, the players already know whether they are going to be in the team or not. Gaudio does. But this time, a racquet is not involved.

Hendu
09-14-2006, 03:14 PM
http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.php?Idx=275059&IdxSeccion=100795

The clock is ticking, and the tie is getting closer between Argentina and Australia. The team is supposed to be Nalbandian, Chela, Calleri and Acasuso

In the past months, there was some big topics sorrounding this tie. The first one, referred to the argentinian players and their perfomances in the last couple of months. The other one, the appearance, or abscense of Lleyton Hewitt, best australian player.

But almost no one talked about Gaston Gaudio, why wasn't he in the squad?

Excluding the known head-issues that Gaudio is used to suffer on the tennis courts, the argentinian raised his level the last months and a lot of people thought he standed a chance for the tie. Even the captain was seriously thinking in that option.

But in the last couple of hours, a rumor trascended that this absence wasn't decided by his latest achievements, but a call from the powerful men in the tennis burocracy.

Now, the players already know whether they are going to be in the team or not. Gaudio does. But this time, a racquet is not involved.

Who is the powerful man in the tennis burocracy? :confused:

Morea?

I don't buy it.

I don't think anyone can tell Luli what to do. He has a strong personality, which he showed in Davis Cup btw...

I would like to have had el Gato in the team instead of Chela to play this tie on clay. Especially because Gaudio is happy again playing tennis after resting some time, at least thats what he said. And is playing better.
But Mancini decided to present the same team of the last two ties. Maybe to solidify the group that would play in an eventual final against Russia in Russia. Gaudio won't play there, although he did pretty well the last time we went to Moscow.

Action Jackson
09-14-2006, 03:19 PM
I just hope Gaston will be in the stadium to watch the boys play, it would be good.

Well Morea is not exactly a friend of Gaston, but I agree with Willy. I trust Luli and there is a reason he is DC captain and he has the respect of the player.

Gaston could have played this tie, but I can see why Luli stuck with this team.

Chapwoman
09-18-2006, 06:00 AM
I hope that Gaston will watch the team as well. Vamos Argentina :worship: , particularly against the reported Hewitt security guards! Ha, ha!

Oooo, next round Argentina vs We Yanks in Buenos Aires would be cool.

We might even get some broadcast here in the US.

Action Jackson
09-19-2006, 05:57 AM
Hewitt has arrived in Buenos Aires with all of the security hooplah around him and there is a video of Acasuso talking in Clarin.

I will paste it in here.

sophia_c
09-19-2006, 10:46 AM
hey...an article from Australia about the Davis Cup......maybe some slight over-reaction on someone's part......

http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport/Hewitt-accused-of-siege-mentality/2006/09/19/1158431704373.html

Hewitt accused of siege mentality
Tuesday Sep 19 18:50 AEST
Lleyton Hewitt has been accused of "creating a circus" and acting like he'd come to Iraq instead of Argentina by potential first day Davis Cup opponent Jose Acasuso.

Hewitt has brought two security guards with him for the semifinal following his rating by an Argentine newspaper as one of the most hated athletes in the country, no doubt fuelled by a history of ill-feeling with a number of the host country's players.

But Acasuso, who will battle with Agustin Calleri for the No.2 Argentine singles spot behind David Nalbandian, wasn't impressed.

"I don't know what Hewitt was thinking, that he was coming to Iraq or they are going to plant a bomb, but we are calm," Acasuso told reporters on Tuesday.




"He's trying to create a circus but nothing is going to happen.

"We're just worried about Argentina. Whether he has one bodyguard, or 500 bodyguards, that's up to him."

Hewitt's camp on Tuesday night dismissed the comments.

"Wherever he travels, we arrange the appropriate level of security that we feel is necessary," Hewitt's manager Robert Aivatoglou said.

"We assessed the situation in Buenos Aires and we haven't treated this any differently to anywhere else he travels.

"The bodyguards are associated with the Australian team and we feel it's appropriate that Lleyton has this level of security."

Acasuso's accusation follows countryman - and bitter and long-time rival of Hewitt - Guillermo Coria's claim earlier in the week that Hewitt's stance had made Argentina "look like a country of murderers".

Aivatoglou believed both Acasuso's and Coria's accusations were uncalled for and said they wouldn't affect Hewitt as he strove to help Australia reach a fifth Davis Cup final in eight years since the 25-year-old made his debut in the competition in 1999.

"After practising today (on centre court), Lleyton walked from the Australian team room to the outside court, then practised further without any incident. I would not say it resembled anything like a circus," Aivatoglou said.

"I wouldn't suggest these accusations will upset him at all. He is just focused on playing tennis and playing Davis Cup for his country."

Hewitt has two personal bodyguards with him in the Argentine capital, including Greg Norman's former minder, but the Argentines believe his concerns are ill-founded - and his stance over the top.

On the whole, the Argentine people are warm and friendly and Hewitt's request for extra security may be perceived as an overreaction, with the tennis star's presence in the football-mad country having - so far - attracted little attention.

Come Friday, though, when the three-day tie commences, Hewitt is sure to be public enemy No.1.

Action Jackson
09-24-2006, 08:38 AM
Well done guys for making the final and there is one more hurdle to overcome.

Nalle was talking a lot, but he backed up the words this time, so Chucho, Nalbandian, Calleri and Chela as well are a good squad and now they will be fighting hard for the singles spot in Russia.

Choupi
09-24-2006, 09:08 AM
I'm curious to know which surface Russia will choose.

Action Jackson
09-24-2006, 10:41 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport/Nalbandian-hammers-nail-in-Aussie-coffin/2006/09/24/1159036397358.html


Nalbandian hammers nail in Aussie coffin

In the end - and the end came very quickly - David Nalbandian had the last laugh, Argentina's tennis ironman delivering on his promise to lead his country to a crushing victory over Australia.

After Jose Acasuso returned to complete a 1-6 6-4 4-6 6-2 6-1 victory over Lleyton Hewitt in the second singles rubber, Nalbandian teamed with Agustin Calleri to bury Australia for the second year running with a 6-4 6-4 7-5 whipping of Wayne Arthurs and Paul Hanley.

The doubles triumph at Parque Roca Stadium gave Argentina an unassailable 3-0 advantage in the claycourt semi-final and its first Davis Cup final in 25 years.

Inspired by a capacity crowd of 14,000 mostly partisan fans, including a shirt-waving and at times delirious-looking Diego Maradona, Nalbandian had put the hosts up 1-0 on Saturday when he outclassed Mark Philippoussis 6-4 6-3 6-3.

However rain and fading light forced an early finish to the opening day, with Acasuso leading Hewitt 4-0 in the fifth set.

Before the tie, Nalbandian, who had won three rubbers to pilot Argentina to a 4-1 success over Australia in a grasscourt quarter-final last year in Sydney, had somewhat arrogantly dismissed the visiting team's chances of gaining revenge in Buenos Aires.

But the world No.4 proved true to his word.

"I wasn't surprised by this 3-0 win," Nalbandian said after enhancing his already impeccable claycourt record in Davis Cup to 10 wins from 10 matches on the slow surface, and to 18-3 overall in the competition.

"When I talk, I do it."

Argentina will play either Russia or the USA in the December 1-3 final and will be attempting to win the Cup for the first time.

The South Americans have only once before made the final, a Guillermo Vilas-inspired Argentine outfit falling 3-1 to the US in Cincinnati in 1981.

Australia's defeat left captain John Fitzgerald staring down the barrel of back-to-back 5-0 drubbings in Buenos Aires, having been whitewashed in the first round four years ago with a depleted line-up devoid of Hewitt and Philippoussis.

"The court was pretty slow and tough for us. It's difficult to come here and win in these conditions because Argentina have a world-class team," Fitzgerald said.

He felt Hewitt's first five-set loss in more than three years knocked the stuffing out of Australia's campaign.

"Lleyton's record over five sets in the last year or two is quite phenomenal. He doesn't lose too many when he goes to the fifth so, at two sets to one up, you'd back him in.

"So that was very much a difficult one for us to recover from."

Acasuso was glad he wasn't armed with the knowledge of Hewitt's run of 11 straight five-set triumphs that had included the scalps of Nalbandian, Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal, Juan Carlos Ferrero and, most recently, French young gun Richard Gasquet at this month's US Open.

From 2-1 and a break point up in the fourth set, Hewitt uncharacteristically dropped nine games in a row.

But the most successful singles player in Australian Davis Cup history offered no excuses, saying against a streaky player like Acasuso he simply had to take his half chances, and he wasn't able to do so.

With Hewitt the only Australian in the world's top 100 and the futures of 35-year-old Wayne Arthurs, the oldest player on the ATP Tour, and Philippoussis, 30 in six weeks and struggling to rediscover his once formidable game, this loss may signal the end of a golden era for Australia in Davis Cup.

Hewitt, Philippoussis, Pat Rafter, Arthurs and the Woodies - Todd Woodbridge and Mark Woodforde - have helped Australia reach four finals, a semi-final and quarter-final - for two trophies - in the past eight years.

"We have had a good run from these guys. They've been a credit to themselves, to their families and to the sport," Fitzgerald said.

"Its tough on a world stage to compete and to get to this last four and to win a Davis Cup. We need to keep trying to develop players. Its not a short-term process."

Action Jackson
09-24-2006, 10:52 AM
http://www.smh.com.au/news/tennis/acasuso-win-puts-argentina-in-complete-control/2006/09/24/1158431956007.html

Acasuso win puts Argentina in complete control

Lleyton Hewitt on Saturday suffered his first five-set defeat in more than three years to leave Australia needing a minor miracle to win its Davis Cup semi-final against Argentina in Buenos Aires.

World No.25 Jose Acasuso completed a rain-delayed 1-6 6-4 4-6 6-2 6-1 victory over Hewitt after returning to Parque Roca Stadium leading 4-0 in the fifth set.

David Nalbandian had put the hosts up 1-0 in the best-of-five-match tie when he outclassed Mark Philippoussis 6-4 6-3 6-3 in Friday's opening singles rubber.

Wayne Arthurs and Paul Hanley must beat Nalbandian and Agustin Calleri in Saturday's doubles to keep alive Australia's slim chances of making this year's Cup final.

Hewitt's loss was his first in five sets since losing as top seed to Spaniard Tommy Robredo in the third round of the 2003 French Open.

His run of 11 straight wins in matches going the full distance included triumphs over tennis heavyweights Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal, David Nalbandian, Juan Carlos Ferrero and, most recently, young French star Richard Gasquet at this month's US Open.

But against Acasuso Hewitt was not the same player that had made the 25-year-old the most successful singles player in Australian Davis Cup history.

He looked like running away with the match after taking the first set in quick fashion on Friday.

And, even after Acasuso stole the second, Hewitt seemed back in control when he went two sets to one up and established break points in the fourth game of the fourth set.

The free-swinging Acasuso, though, began finding his range and reeled off nine straight games to be on the verge of a stirring comeback win when rain intervened on Friday.

Hewitt made the perfect start upon Saturday's resumption, breaking Acasuso on the very first point of the day to keep his hopes alive.

But the South Australian uncharacteristically gifted the break straight back from 30-love up on serve with two double-faults followed by two successive unforced errors.

Acasuso coolly served out the match and dropped to his knees in jubilation after pushing Argentina to within one more win of only its second ever Davis Cup final.

The South Americans lost to the USA in their only previous final back in 1981.

sonatinca
09-25-2006, 09:02 AM
I'm curious to know which surface Russia will choose.
I'm not sure that anyone can predict our Captan decisions ;)

Choupi
09-25-2006, 01:33 PM
I'm not sure that anyone can predict our Captan decisions ;)
Well, at least, one can have an idea...........:)

Action Jackson
09-26-2006, 08:39 AM
http://www.diariohoy.net/notas/verNoticia.phtml/html/268480362/

DEPORTES La convicción de Agustín Calleri

“Lo importante es que somos un equipo”

Faltan más de dos meses, pero todo el país palpita la final de la Davis. Y el cordobés Calleri encuentra el secreto en que ahora conforman un grupo unido. Los conflictos de Vilas y Clerc o Coria y Gaudio quedaron atrás


La unión hace la fuerza. Ese parece ser el lema del equipo argentino de Copa Davis y así se mostraron sus protagonistas durante todo el fin de semana. Lejos de las escenas de vedettismo de la época de Vilas y Clerc, pero también de los conatos de conflicto que se vivieron hace muy poco, con Guillermo Coria y Gastón Gaudio, esta vez en el cuarteto argentino reina la paz. Todos tiran para adelante y con buena cara. Y eso lo ratificó Agustín Calleri, al que le tocó quedarse afuera de los singles en el primer día, pero que terminó por dar el tercer punto en el dobles junto a Nalbandian.
“Cualquiera de los tres podía jugar el viernes o el sábado, nadie quedó afuera de nada. Esto es un equipo y a uno le puede pasar jugar con la serie liquidada, como me pasó a mí en otras oportunidades. Acá ganamos los cuatro, es así. A veces es difícil porque todos tenemos ganas de jugar, pero yo creo que es la primera vez que un equipo llega a la final de la Copa Davis”, dijo el cordobés. Eso se notó en la cancha y se transmitió el público, que también jugó su partido.
El Gordo, además, se tomó el tiempo para analizar la serie: “El objetivo era definirla el sábado, dependíamos mucho del partido de Chucho porque era el más importante del viernes. El doble fue fundamental porque estar el sábado 3-0 arriba te da mucha tranquilidad y menos estrés. Para jugarlo se necesita comunicación, un entendimiento mutuo, tiene que haber química y con David la tenemos dentro y fuera de la cancha. Lo conozco mucho desde chico, de los provinciales y los nacionales y nos llevamos muy bien dentro y fuera de la cancha”.
En la misma sintonía opinó al respecto José Acasuso, el misionero que le dio a Argentina el punto más importante, tras derrotar a Lleyton Hewitt en el segundo single. El, pese a todo, se niega a ser considerado un jugador copero. “Para serlo hay que jugar varias series más. Recién es mi tercera serie y por suerte lo pude hacer bien de local y cuando me tocó jugar el dobles en Croacia. Estoy contento porque me tocó jugar bien para Argentina y por darle mis puntos al país. Eso es lo fundamental y por lo que todos estamos jugando. Estamos ante una posibilidad histórica y ojalá podamos terminar el año de la mejor manera y con el objetivo que queremos todos”, concluyó Chucho. Faltan dos meses para jugar la final


Summary:

"What is important is that we are a team"


There is less than two months to go, but the whole country is palpitates for the Davis Cup final. Calleri the man from Cordoba has found the secret and the team form a united group. The conflicts between Vilas and Clerc or Coria and Gaudio have been left behind.

Strength through unity seems to be the motto of the Argentine Davis Cup team. The protagonists all played on the weekend. Far from the vengeful scenes during the historical time of Vilas and Clerc and the unresolved conflict between Guillermo Coria and Gastón Gaudio, this Argentine quartet reign in peace. It’s full steam ahead and it looks good. Agustin Calleri said that it was his turn to miss out for the singles on the first day, but that was forgotten when along with Nalbandian in the doubles they got the third point.

“Any of the three could have played on Friday and Saturday and no one feels left out. This is a team and one can play when the matches are settled, as has happened to me in the past. Here we are four and at times it’s difficult cause we all want to play, but I believe that for the first time this is a team (in an Argentine context) that reaches the final of the Davis Cup.” Calleri said. It was noted on the court and the public played its part. El Gordo analysed the series. “The objective was to win it on Saturday and we depended on Chucho, because it was the most important match on Friday. The doubles was fundamental because to be 3-0 on Saturday relives stress and makes it calm. To play well communication is needed, a mutual understanding and there has to be chemistry and with David we have it on and off court. I know him well the boy from the provinces and the national team and we carry ourselves very well on and off court.”

In the same tune and respect to Jose Acasuso, the misionero who gave Argentina the most important point, after defeating Lleyton Hewitt in the second singles. In spite of this he refuses to be considered a cup player. “ To be one, I must play several more series. Recently this is my third series and fortunately I could well at home and in the doubles in Croatia. I am happy because I have played well for Argentina and giving them points for my country. This is the fundamental thing for which we are all playing for. We have a historic possibility and I hope we can finish the year in a good way and with our objective,” concluded Acasuso. They are waiting for two months to play final and the dream is still alive.

Choupi
09-26-2006, 09:50 AM
Thanks for this. True that it's great to see that they ARE a team now. See, one can't say that France has the best players with great rankings but it didn't stop us from winning it several times. And that's because it's the work of a whole team, ready to fight for the same goal. So vamos Argentina. :)

Action Jackson
10-07-2006, 07:10 AM
It´s common knowledge that Morea has a thing against Gastón, to such an extent that he never spoke about Gastón´s RG triumph, and the suspicion is that Morea may have leaned on Mancini for Gaston not to take part in the tie against Australia, on clay and on his home ground, in spite of the fact that Gastón had played pretty well in the US Open.

Going to Russia is another thing, and people aren´t seriously suggesting that Gastón be included. I don´t think even Gastón would recommend it, but he´s just a bit pissed off at having been passed over in BA.:(

First of all it seems you are suggesting that Mancini is a puppet? If that is the case then why did he select Puerta for the grass tie to play doubles against Australia. Why did he select Chucho for singles against the Swedes at the start of the year? He has made some tough calls and I doubt he is a puppet.

So Morea doesn't like Gaudio, big shit. Most people don't like Morea too much and it's easy to see why. Gaston plays Ok at the US Open and how was that a strong enough case for him to be included instead of Nalbandian, Chucho or Calleri.

He would have only been included as a token and head cheerleader instead of Chela and Chela had the better overall form in the summer clay season than Gaudio?

He has no case to be pissed off when the other 4 have been in better overall form than he has, especially not for the tie against Australia. If he was at his best then he'd more than likely be in the team, but he hasn't.

Vale
10-07-2006, 08:25 PM
First of all it seems you are suggesting that Mancini is a puppet? If that is the case then why did he select Puerta for the grass tie to play doubles against Australia. Why did he select Chucho for singles against the Swedes at the start of the year? He has made some tough calls and I doubt he is a puppet.

So Morea doesn't like Gaudio, big shit. Most people don't like Morea too much and it's easy to see why. Gaston plays Ok at the US Open and how was that a strong enough case for him to be included instead of Nalbandian, Chucho or Calleri.

He would have only been included as a token and head cheerleader instead of Chela and Chela had the better overall form in the summer clay season than Gaudio?

He has no case to be pissed off when the other 4 have been in better overall form than he has, especially not for the tie against Australia. If he was at his best then he'd more than likely be in the team, but he hasn't.

I don´t usually have black-or-white opinions, and I never said that Mancini was a puppet. He has shown the courage of his convictions and made some good choices. It´s still possible that he may have been doubting about including Gastón and that Morea prevailed.

Of course I never suggested that Gastón could have replaced Nalbandian, Acasuso or Calleri, it didn´t cross anybody´s mind, but the weak link of the team is Chela, obviously, and us Argentines that suffered seeing him almost lose in the fifth rubber against Croatia were praying he wouldn´t have to play when the result mattered!

Action Jackson
10-08-2006, 06:39 AM
I don´t usually have black-or-white opinions, and I never said that Mancini was a puppet. He has shown the courage of his convictions and made some good choices. It´s still possible that he may have been doubting about including Gastón and that Morea prevailed.

Of course I never suggested that Gastón could have replaced Nalbandian, Acasuso or Calleri, it didn´t cross anybody´s mind, but the weak link of the team is Chela, obviously, and us Argentines that suffered seeing him almost lose in the fifth rubber against Croatia were praying he wouldn´t have to play when the result mattered!

By suggesting Morea is involved in selecting the squad is for all intent and purposes is that he is undermining Mancini's job and Mancini is no more than a stooge.

Only reason Chela played was cause Calleri wasn't fit enough to play against Tuksar. Even then can you not see Gaston has had a poor year compared to his previous two? He wasn't considered for that tie and why would they change the winning 4 for the semi final line up and if his form was that good, then it would have been harder to leave him out.

sonatinca
10-08-2006, 07:57 PM
Choupi, I dont know may you heard it already, but DC will be on hard. New surface caled RuKort, that was worked out in Italy by croatian specialists (dont even ask, in Russia its always like that ;) ) As they annaunced they tests it now on Kremlin cup. I even got a piece of it, cos RuKort has it's own stand in VIP area. So I'm thinking about to send it to David))))))) Well, maybe they will choose another sort of this surface for DC, but the thing they use now is quite slow with low bounce, so I dont know if it's worth to use it with Argies :shrug: But I believe in Torpischev for 150% and I will be agree with him whatever decision he will make :)

Choupi
10-08-2006, 09:00 PM
Thanks for the update. :)

Vale
10-08-2006, 11:01 PM
Choupi, I dont know may you heard it already, but DC will be on hard. New surface caled RuKort, that was worked out in Italy by croatian specialists (dont even ask, in Russia its always like that)

Thanks for the news, Sonatinca! Whatever surface they choose in the end, I have a feeling that Russia will win!:( Although, personally, I like all the Russian players so it wouldn´t be AS painful as against another team.

sonatinca
10-09-2006, 06:34 AM
I't may sounds funny but as the time pasts I think more and more that argies will win, I dont even know why, but in any case I will be glad no matter if my national team win or my favorite player's team win ;)

Action Jackson
10-09-2006, 07:03 AM
I't may sounds funny but as the time pasts I think more and more that argies will win, I dont even know why, but in any case I will be glad no matter if my national team win or my favorite player's team win ;)

Don't forget the Russians choked twice at home in Davis Cup finals and the only time they did win it was away from home.

Betty
10-09-2006, 08:07 AM
I't may sounds funny but as the time pasts I think more and more that argies will win, I dont even know why, but in any case I will be glad no matter if my national team win or my favorite player's team win ;)

it's not a easy situation..i hope Argentina will win..but u know i like Marat too so....i'm happy for this final;)

Vale
11-27-2006, 10:24 PM
Hi, I don´t know if this article has already been posted elsewhere:

http://www.daviscup.com/news/newsarticle.asp?id=13948

24 Nov 2006 - Olympic Stadium, Moscow, Russia - Chris Bowers

Argentina's second generation cements legacy of Vilas and Clerc

Argentina’s presence in the 2006 Davis Cup by BNP Paribas Final against Russia represents the high point – so far – of the second world-class generation of Argentinean tennis. With the greatest respect to Gabriela Sabatini, who put the country on the women’s tennis map single-handedly during her best years of 1988-93, it’s not since Guillermo Vilas first popularised tennis in Argentina in the 1970s that the South American nation has featured so prominently in the jewels of tennis’s crown, the Grand Slams and the Davis Cup.

Vilas played a similar role in Argentina to that which Manolo Santana played in Spain – taking tennis out of the affluent classes and making it a sport that interests large swathes of the population. But to fully understand Vilas’s contribution requires an understanding of the turbulent background that is Argentina’s 20th century history.

From the time of the global economic crash of 1929 to the early years of this decade, Argentina’s fragile economy made it constantly vulnerable to military intervention. The era from 1946 to 1952 in which General Juan Perón ruled with his charismatic and politically astute wife Eva (the era celebrated in the rock opera “Evita” with its iconic theme song “Don’t Cry for Me, Argentina”) brought an enfranchisement of the working classes and widespread nationalisation and trade unionisation, but it also had its fair share of corruption. When Perón was deposed in 1955, it continued a climate of political unrest which saw a series of short-lived democratic renaissances alternating with various military juntas. Things hit their nadir between 1976 and 1983, when Argentina’s so-called “dirty war” led to an estimated 11,000 people disappearing (and the term “desaparecidos” entering United Nations vocabulary).

It meant that by the late 1970s, Argentinean citizens were desperate for heroes outside the political sphere. The success of the national soccer team, which hosted the 1978 World Cup and won it for the first time, made stars out of the captain Daniel Pasarela, the leading goalscorer Mario Kempes, and the chain-smoking coach César Luis Menotti. Some even say the World Cup title created such national enthusiasm that it helped keep the reigning military junta in power for another few years.

Until the 1970s, tennis had been limited largely to affluent circles, but then Guillermo Vilas emerged. He was runner-up at Roland Garros in 1975, and then won the French Open and US Open in 1977. More significantly for his profile back home, he steered Argentina to a Davis Cup victory over the USA in Buenos Aires that year, to give a major shot in the arm to Argentinean tennis. Vilas was partnered in that tie by Ricardo Cano, but really needed a stronger partner if Argentina was to make any headway in the Davis Cup.

He found that partner in José Luis Clerc. The two never got on particularly well, either with each other or with their national association, but all three parties recognised they had more to gain by working together than by fighting each other. And in March 1980 they struck gold, both men beating John McEnroe as the USA were again eclipsed at the Buenos Aires Lawn Tennis Club. But in September, the Czechoslovak team led by the 20-year-old Ivan Lendl was too strong. Argentina did win the second team competition in men’s tennis that year, the clay-based World Team Cup, but the Davis Cup remained the big prize.

In 1981, the Davis Cup changed format, introducing the 16-nation World Group. It meant a maximum of four ties per year, instead of the previous six (or possibly seven), and a strictly alternating home-and-away rule. Vilas was the hero in the away first round against West Germany, beating Uli Pinner in a live fifth rubber; both men won singles against a Romania missing the suspended Ilie Nastase; and neither dropped a set in a 5-0 win over Great Britain in the semifinals. Argentina was into its first Davis Cup final – but it meant a trip to a fast indoor court in Cincinnati.

In his book “The Davis Cup” published by the ITF in 1998, Richard Evans recounts that the Riverfront Coliseum, which seated 17,000, would have been largely empty for the 1981 final had not a local businessman, concerned for his city’s reputation, bought 10,000 seats and given them to his friends and associates. The problem was partly that McEnroe and Peter Fleming had posted a controversial performance against Australia in the semifinals which the US captain Arthur Ashe apologised for afterwards. The Coliseum was not full, but had enough atmosphere to do justice to a fascinating final.

McEnroe beat Vilas in straight sets, but Clerc then beat Roscoe Tanner in the second singles to leave the overnight score 1-1. When Vilas served for the doubles at 7-6 in the fifth, Argentina were on the point of taking a stranglehold on the final, but Vilas was broken, and when Clerc was broken six games later, McEnroe and Fleming had won 11-9. Clerc still took McEnroe to five sets the following day, but the fiercely patriotic McEnroe was not going to let a third winner’s medal elude him, and took the decider 6-3.

With Vilas reaching the last of his Grand Slam finals the following year, the golden era of Argentinean tennis was drawing to a close. The likes of Martin Jaite, Guillermo Perez Roldan, Alberto Mancini and Javier Frana flew the flag valiantly in the 1980s and 1990s, but it was only when the current crop of Argentinean players began to emerge in the late 90s that Argentina regained the tag of serious Davis Cup contenders. The high point of individual achievement came at 2004 Roland Garros, when two Argentineans, Gaston Gaudio and Guillermo Coria, contested the final, which Gaudio won from match point down. The high point of team achievement is the upcoming Davis Cup by BNP Paribas final.

None of today’s Argentinean tennis team is in any doubt that tennis is still some way behind football in national esteem. Tennis competes for second place with sports like volleyball, polo (Argentina won the first Olympic gold medal in polo in 1924), motor racing (the five-times world champion in the 1950s, Juan Manuel Fangio, was from Argentina), and even pato, a distinctly Argentinean sport which resembles a form of basketball on horseback. But the country’s top football idol, Diego Maradóna, has been an ardent fan of Argentina’s tennis team, and is promising to be in Moscow for the final. That shows a degree of recognition for tennis that can only cement the work done 25 years ago by Vilas and Clerc.

Action Jackson
11-28-2006, 03:04 AM
They have trained in Geneva and are in Moscow and just hope that whoever plays can bring the DC to Argentina.

Choupi
11-28-2006, 07:52 AM
Thanks for the article Vale. And Vamos Argentina. :D

Action Jackson
12-01-2006, 08:23 AM
The time for talking is almost done and that will mean business is about to pick up.

Chela and Davydenko are meant to be the 1st match and good luck Argentina.

Action Jackson
12-01-2006, 11:03 AM
PMK takes the 1st set 6-1 and Chubby needs to fight on.

Action Jackson
12-01-2006, 11:23 AM
6-1 6-2 and Chela needs a big lift from somewhere.

Action Jackson
12-01-2006, 11:42 AM
Good work chubby breaking for a 4-1 lead, now keep on going and keep fighting.

sophia_c
12-01-2006, 12:05 PM
Its not looking so great now as he has given his lead in the third set away, what a shame! its an uphill battle but its 5-4 in the third now always all to play for!!!

Action Jackson
12-01-2006, 12:19 PM
15-30 show some balls Chubby.

Action Jackson
12-01-2006, 12:20 PM
2 set points for Chubby.

Action Jackson
12-01-2006, 12:21 PM
Great stuff Chubby Chela keep on fighting man.

1-6 2-6 6-4

Action Jackson
12-01-2006, 12:36 PM
No good Chubby up 40-0 and losing serve.

sonatinca
12-01-2006, 07:49 PM
George, you should have come to Moscow! :D
I had so much fun today (not talking about Chela's match)!!!
I'm in love with argentinian fans, they are great!!!!

Choupi
12-01-2006, 08:21 PM
Hey, glad you had so much fun!! Will you be there for the whole tie?

RogiFan88
12-01-2006, 08:27 PM
Too bad for Chubby but he managed to get a set off Kolya, No 3 in the world.

Well done to Dahveeeeeeeeeeed for making his hth vs. Maratski a little more palatable a la Rogi vs. Rafa hth -- 3-6 now! :lol:

All tied up and nowhere to go but up tomorrow in the doubles!

VIVA, ARGENTINA!

sonatinca
12-02-2006, 06:52 AM
Yes, Choupi, I will be there for today and tomorow. I wish Gastón would be there!

Choupi
12-02-2006, 07:52 AM
And I wish I was there!! :)

Choupi
12-02-2006, 08:29 AM
Just voted on the DavisCup.com site, about who should win the doubles today. It seems ppl think that Argentina's favourite. It was 80% votes for them when I voted. Hope they're right. ;)

Action Jackson
12-02-2006, 08:33 AM
Yes, Choupi, I will be there for today and tomorow. I wish Gastón would be there!

Why, I don't want Argentina to lose the Davis Cup.

150 Argentine fans make more noise than the rest of the crowd.

Action Jackson
12-03-2006, 10:47 AM
Nalle wins the 1st set 6-2 and he knows he has a job to do and bring it to a 5th match.

Action Jackson
12-03-2006, 11:04 AM
Nalle breaks again and leads 3-1 and time to finish the PMK off.

Action Jackson
12-03-2006, 11:30 AM
Nalle wins the 2nd set 6-2

It's there for the taking and hope he can finish this soon, just hope the doubles result won't come back to bite him in the arse.

Action Jackson
12-03-2006, 12:12 PM
PMK takes the 3rd set 6-4 and Nalle needs to get some 1st serves in.

Action Jackson
12-03-2006, 12:52 PM
Nalle wins the 4th set 6-4 and now it's time for Chucho to be the hero.

Choupi
12-03-2006, 12:58 PM
Chuchoooooooooooooooo!!!!!! :bounce: Vamos!!

Action Jackson
12-03-2006, 04:42 PM
Chucho fought very bravely and did himself proud, but wasn't good enough to win the final match, with the few chances he said.

The doubles is what killed Argentina, but this generation will have to win one eventually.

The Russians too good.

RogiFan88
12-03-2006, 05:36 PM
David sums up his first DC Final experience here:

sophia_c
12-03-2006, 06:44 PM
Chucho fought very bravely and did himself proud, but wasn't good enough to win the final match, with the few chances he said.

The doubles is what killed Argentina, but this generation will have to win one eventually.

The Russians too good.

George..i agree..the doubles lost it and now we have to wait until next year!!!....

sonatinca
12-04-2006, 01:46 PM
And I wish I was there!! :)
Sorry :( But maybe next year? ;)

Why, I don't want Argentina to lose the Davis Cup.
:p
I've got my own personal reason ;)

150 Argentine fans make more noise than the rest of the crowd.

Oh, they are SO good! We were sitting with them on saturday and sunday. We all were blue and wite, were singing and dancing together all the time. And nobody told me "sit down, shut up and stop waving your damn flag" like it was on friday, when I was sitting with "normal" people. And though I was very sad for team and my heart was broken with Chucho tears, I'm so happy I spent 2 days with wonderfull people! I enjoyed every moment I spent there!
Hope next year Argenting will reach the final again and win!

Action Jackson
12-04-2006, 01:49 PM
No more Chela for Davis Cup, he will be replaced by Cañas as long as he comes back to some kind of form off theclay, but Nalbandian, Chucho and del Potro there is a good base.

sonatinca
12-04-2006, 01:57 PM
Yes, I think now David will forget about his plans not to play DC in 2007 ;)

RogiFan88
12-04-2006, 02:50 PM
you're right, sonatinca -- if ARG had won, David probably w NOT play DC in 2007

arzu8
12-04-2006, 06:41 PM
Maybe Gaudio will come to his dream and have a chance to be part of DC 2007.

Action Jackson
09-20-2008, 02:38 AM
Great to see Gaston and nearly all of the players there to support the current team.

Getta
09-20-2008, 02:59 AM
Gosh. I want so badly for Argentina to win the Davis Cup.

Action Jackson
09-20-2008, 03:58 AM
They are on the way to making to the DC final and it will be at home.

There are so many people involved, but they tend to be forgotten.

Choupi
09-20-2008, 07:41 AM
Oh yeah that was so great to see Gaston on tv yesterday, among all the players. It's been very short in time but I was so happy :p

Vamos Argentina!! :banana:

martine2
11-08-2008, 12:44 PM
Time to bump this thread :banana: :banana:

Action Jackson
11-22-2008, 02:38 AM
Good that nearly everyone was there to support the team and Gaston of course turned up.

1 all, well just makes the doubles even more crucial than it was before.

kai.
11-22-2008, 04:35 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3718052&categoryId=2482617&n8pe6c=2&brand=deportes

Getta
11-22-2008, 06:48 AM
1 all, well just makes the doubles even more crucial than it was before.

Hopefully Luli won't regret turning down the chance to pick Lucas instead of Chucho.

Getta
11-22-2008, 07:43 PM
I wonder if Luli has the balls to admit publicly that he made a fatally flawed decision.

In case you didn't understand my coded message, I'm very angry right now.

martine2
11-22-2008, 08:19 PM
Well, it's not over yet, but the situation is very dangerous :scared:
Nalby will be tired tomorrow but so will Lopez.
Hoping for the best...

Vale
11-23-2008, 02:45 AM
I wonder if Luli has the balls to admit publicly that he made a fatally flawed decision.

In case you didn't understand my coded message, I'm very angry right now.

I´m angry too, but for different reasons. There are widespread rumours that Nalbandian fought with poor Del Potro yesterday, he then had a heated argument with Mancini regarding who should be the other singles player on Sunday, and today he had a fight with Calleri. I´m fed up with this diva attitude. He then stomped off and shirked the press conference and will be fined 10,000 dollars by the ITF. I think Del Potro needs lots of support from fellow players and the media right now when he must be feeling like hell, and Calleri played better than Nalbandian today, above his ranking, so what´s DN´s beef anyway? If Acasuso plays the fourth rubber tomorrow and loses, I hope people will recognize his courage playing the decisive match against a much higher ranked player and not crucify him.

I´m also upset by the Argentine crowd´s unsporting attitude. Today I felt embarrassed by my fellow-countrymen! I want Argentina to win, but not this way...:(

Getta
11-23-2008, 03:28 AM
I´m angry too, but for different reasons. There are widespread rumours that Nalbandian fought with poor Del Potro yesterday, he then had a heated argument with Mancini regarding who should be the other singles player on Sunday, and today he had a fight with Calleri. I´m fed up with this diva attitude. He then stomped off and shirked the press conference and will be fined 10,000 dollars by the ITF. I think Del Potro needs lots of support from fellow players and the media right now when he must be feeling like hell, and Calleri played better than Nalbandian today, above his ranking, so what´s DN´s beef anyway? If Acasuso plays the fourth rubber tomorrow and loses, I hope people will recognize his courage playing the decisive match against a much higher ranked player and not crucify him.

I could never blame Chucho for possible defeat. Neither Delpo for going to Shanghai. Luli is the only man to blame. He should have chosen Lucas to form a doubles pair with David. David made it clear he wanted that way... Anyway, let's hope Chucho will find a way to pull out a miraculous win today. And in any case, whatever the final outcome we still love Chucho. :worship:

I was hooked and couldn't stop watching tennis. I have more important things to worry about. It's about time. ;)

Action Jackson
11-23-2008, 03:32 AM
I wonder if Luli has the balls to admit publicly that he made a fatally flawed decision.

In case you didn't understand my coded message, I'm very angry right now.

Lucas Arnold shouldn't have been picked, considering Chucho is likely to be playing the 4th rubber, they need the flexibility of 4 singles players, especially with del Potro's condition.

Win as a team and lose as a team, looking for scapegoats is easy. They are expected to win the event, but pressure does things to people.

Getta
11-23-2008, 03:46 AM
Lucas Arnold shouldn't have been picked, considering Chucho is likely to be playing the 4th rubber, they need the flexibility of 4 singles players, especially with del Potro's condition.

Do you really think that Chucho is a better singles player than Gordo* on that surface?

*I mean a "normal" Gordo, not a "shattered" one... You seem to be missing my point. Perhaps I'm wrong, I don't know. :shrug:

Action Jackson
11-23-2008, 04:10 AM
Do you really think that Chucho is a better singles player than Gordo* on that surface?

*I mean a "normal" Gordo, not a "shattered" one... You seem to be missing my point. Perhaps I'm wrong, I don't know. :shrug:

As Vale said Calleri was the better player in the doubles match, second of all. Chucho matches up better with Ferrer than Calleri does, therefore if there is to be a replacement then Acasuso is a better fit than what Calleri is, unless Ferrer is substituted for Verdasco, then this is less clear.

If you want to make a point and not be misunderstood, then come out and say it.

jayjay
11-23-2008, 04:10 AM
I´m angry too, but for different reasons. There are widespread rumours that Nalbandian fought with poor Del Potro yesterday, he then had a heated argument with Mancini regarding who should be the other singles player on Sunday, and today he had a fight with Calleri. I´m fed up with this diva attitude. He then stomped off and shirked the press conference and will be fined 10,000 dollars by the ITF. I think Del Potro needs lots of support from fellow players and the media right now when he must be feeling like hell, and Calleri played better than Nalbandian today, above his ranking, so what´s DN´s beef anyway?

Rumours can sometimes be just that, rumours. And it's not as if the press are not always looking to create a conflict where there isn't one when things go wrong. You know, as well as I, it's always the same in Argentina - when we lose when we don't expect to, there are always stories of "internal conflict" being the reason - when in truth, sometimes it may have been the case, and in other cases not at all.

No one has done more to win Argentina a Davis Cup than David Nalbandian. He has gone beyond the call and obligation of duty to make himself available, to schedule around DC - so that he can be ready for DC, and not even his own ambitions on tour. Other players have not done this, not to say they don't care about playing for Argentina, they do, but no one wants it more than Nalbandian, no one, at all.

If he is angry/frustrated/disappointed, and has lashed out, then really who can blame him? He is a human being, and he has carried the burden of this team for many years, when he shouldn't have had to. Unlike many other nations, we have had countless players in the top 20/top30-50 who should have been able to contribute more than they had done.

Instead, it has always only been Nalbandian who can win any big match with clarity. Even when Chela was asked to beat some Croatian mug, he made an unbelievable meal of it. In Russia in the DC Final, Nalbandian produced two outstanding displays to win us two points and where were the other three just to help to produce one? They couldn't do it.

Now, here again, Nalbandian wins his singles with ease and then watches Del Potro fall apart literally and figuratively. Then he makes his own errors in the 3rd set TB in doubles, knowing that if we don't win that match, he may not get back on court again in a live rubber (or at all, because I doubt very much he, or any of them will actually play a dead rubber).

The frustration and anger at himself, at the situation and at the rest of the team must be incredibly hard to keep a lid on, and we know Nalbandian has never had any problem in letting people know how he feels.

And we're not even taking into account his already justified disgust that the tie was not in Cordoba, where it deserved to be, for him more than anyone else. Far from calling Nalbandian a diva, he has been anything but a diva in his Davis Cup career. He has won countless ties, on his own, and shared the joy with team mates who did nothing for him.

Really if there is any justice, Acasuso will find a way to win tomorrow and offer something to Nalbandian that these bunch of players (and we are talking about many of them - not just the current 3 others in the squad) have never done so far, a helping hand. Other than JMDP's performances against Russia, Nalbandian has been fighting on his own in search of history for Argentina.

This should have been a weekend of great celebration, instead it may turn out to be a severe humbling, and if Nalbandian is letting out anger behind the scenes, I can't blame him one bit. What more could he have done? Nothing. What more could others have done? Lots.

It's not a case of looking to blame anyone, but let's not go around criticising Nalbandian for being a crushed human being. He must be devastated, and his devastation is greater than any of the other players or any of the fans. He has sacrificed more for this, than any of them, or any of us. If he wants to lash out, he is entitled, I would have done a long time ago given how he has had to single handedly carry a nation with players who have been good enough for him not to have needed to be so responsible for the success/failure of the Davis Cup side.

Action Jackson
11-23-2008, 04:16 AM
Nothing more to add jayjay.

Nalbandian has been the backbone of the Argentine team pretty much since he came into it. He is always there when he is fit to play.

The fiasco with Mar del Plata well that's a distraction and this stuff happens within a team environment, better getting the shit out of the system and than bottling it up and then move forward.

martine2
11-23-2008, 11:06 AM
Nobody can be blamed.

Not Mancini, because he did what was the best for the team in his opinion (and I agree with him)
I like Calleri a lot, but for a singles match that could go to 5 sets, he isn't the best option, so imo Lulli was right to get Chucho in the team.

Not Delpo because he didn't play well on Friday. He was under pressure and he's only human. Moreover it was thanks to his performance last time that Argentina is there in the final.

Not Nalby for letting his emotions go. Better let it out then bottle it all up. But now he shouldn't look back, only forward to what's coming today.

This DC is very important to them and the pressure must be enormous and then this kinda thing happens.

Hope they go for it today and win the whole thing!

cobalt60
11-23-2008, 02:49 PM
I have been remiss and so busy with work ( yes I am actually at work today) and life in general that I have not been able to watch any of the matches. I just hope they can pull it out. This will be difficult but you never know.
Vamos Argentina!!

Action Jackson
11-23-2008, 06:27 PM
Spain were too good and they played like a unit that cared for each other.

Yes, it's disappointing for Argentina to lose this, when everything is in their favour. Del Potro chose not to rest the toe problem that he had in Vienna in pursuit of Shanghai, when he has plenty of opportunities to make the Masters, he had enough chances to seal the deal.

Couldn't get the doubles happening and Chucho tried his heart out, but couldn't get it done.

Clearly the better team won.

martine2
11-23-2008, 09:09 PM
I feel so sorry for them but yes, credit to the Spaniards who played real good.

Too bad, but that's the way it is :sad:

cobalt60
11-23-2008, 10:00 PM
What a shame overall though. Agree with all you said GW.

Vale
11-23-2008, 10:29 PM
I respect Jayjay´s loyalty, she´s a true fan, and I agree with much of what she says. Nalbandian is undoubtedly our most important DC player, because he´s the best Argentine player and because he´s set his heart upon winning the Cup. In the past, the lack of other top players has made him play three days running, even though physically he was never able to play more than two rubbers well. (This time he couldn´t keep up his good form even for the doubles match.)

I believe that Del Potro was justified in going to Shanghai. He reached his current ranking mainly because he had no points to defend, but who knows if he´ll be in the top eight in the future? He didn´t go for the money but because he couldn´t let this chance go by. Even if he hadn´t played, he was already burnt out at the end of the year, and his toenails problem is no worse today than three weeks ago. (Btw, Verdasco had the same problem and played DC heavily bandaged).

The other Argentine players are all going through a bad patch in their careers and their rankings have slumped, so all they could do was play their best and pray that it would be sufficient.

In this context, when JMDP lost on Friday what was needed was a supportive attitude from Nalbandian and Mancini, the mainstays of the group, to make the other players feel more confident and to keep up the team spirit. Instead, Nalbandian vented his anger on the team. Once a model of unity, it´s not united anymore...

The Spanish team was an example of fair play and sportsmanship and the captain made each of his players feel special. Verdasco said "Emilio gets into your head so then you play two against one".

This time the crowd was a bit better behaved and they ended up applauding the winners. Feliciano also led the 1000 Spaniards present to cheer for Argentina!

I was pleased to see that Acasuso got the biggest cheer during the prize-giving. Both in 2006 and today he had to face the hardest matches of his life with little chance of winning, and still he put up a good fight.

Vale
11-23-2008, 11:34 PM
Mancini has just resigned!:eek:
I hope Jaite might be persuaded to take over...

Action Jackson
11-24-2008, 03:50 AM
I hope del Potro and the others have been humbled by this experience, this generation have pretty much lost their chance to win a DC, if they don't do it within 2 seasons, then it's not happening.

jayjay is a he.

Vale
11-24-2008, 05:12 PM
I hope del Potro and the others have been humbled by this experience.

Why would anyone want them all to be humbled?:confused: Del Potro is just a kid, the second tier of Calleri, Acasuso et al. have made sacrifices to play for their country and frequently got criticized in the process, and Nalbandian is our best player, he´s the main reason we´ve reached two DC finals and unfortunately he´s also responsible for disrupting the team´s unity.

Action Jackson
11-25-2008, 12:53 AM
Why would anyone want them all to be humbled?:confused: Del Potro is just a kid, the second tier of Calleri, Acasuso et al. have made sacrifices to play for their country and frequently got criticized in the process, and Nalbandian is our best player, he´s the main reason we´ve reached two DC finals and unfortunately he´s also responsible for disrupting the team´s unity.

Del Potro made a particular decision of going to Shanghai when clearly not fit and this had a negative impact on the rest of the team and Nalbandian let him know that. Del Potro didn't understand what this meant, as he will have plenty of opportunities to make a Masters Cup, but not many to win this event at home.

Calleri and Acasuso have nothing to be criticised for, they tried their best.