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Your Tennis Betting History

Grinder
02-04-2006, 01:36 AM
I keep track of all my bets per sport on separate spreadsheets that autosum profits, gains, include odds, etc.,

It'll be interesting to see other people's betting history for 2006.
I'll start by posting mine (requires Excell or any spreadsheet viewing program), feel free to use mine as a template to post your own.

http://www.mysharefile.com/d/6586400/1139020529/PickHistory.xls


Click that link to download. A backup is:
http://www.mysharefile.com/v/6586400/PickHistory.xls.html

Here's a little cross section of what I'm talking about.


EDIT: I noticed I put an error on the second line of the spreadsheet. The bet was Zvonareva x Safarova and the opponenet was Bartoli x Penetta.

TwistyServe
02-04-2006, 02:19 AM
Nice profits.. your math is still wrong on Friedl over Aguilar because you included your stake with the profit... $350 with +115 odds pays $402.

Funny without the Kiefer over JCF you'd be in the red but nice staking when you're confident!

Grinder
02-04-2006, 02:32 AM
Nice profits.. your math is still wrong on Friedl over Aguilar because you included your stake with the profit... $350 with +115 odds pays $402.

Funny without the Kiefer over JCF you'd be in the red but nice staking when you're confident!

Thanks for pointing out the error, I have corrected it. ;)

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 02:16 PM
My betting history from 2006 to 2/18/2006.

Posting it cause some people think I'm sucking or something.

Almost 95% of the wages posted here on the boards!

I just started gambling for the first time since the start of AO2006 so I've been working out kninks in the system. Still overall I'm happy with the results.

Notice I've reduced stakes near the end to play it safer.

http://www.mysharefile.com/v/6591461/1_TwistServe2006.xls.html

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 02:53 PM
6.2% ROI Twisty but still in profit :yeah:

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 02:54 PM
6.2% ROI Twisty but still in profit :yeah:

Better that then up 10 units and your whole 2006 profitline is gone in another 2 bets. :smash: Ghez man all that time spent researching and following scoreboards is paying off :angel: A True "Professional Grade"

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 02:57 PM
Profit went in 9 of 11 losses.

Anyone has a bad spell...at least I am man enough to tell people exactly how it is.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 03:00 PM
I am professional grade because someone saw value in my tennis knowledge...they know I am inexperienced at betting as this is my frst full season. You can condemn me all you bloody well like but we are only 7 weeks into the season...

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 03:05 PM
I am professional grade because someone saw value in my tennis knowledge...they know I am inexperienced at betting as this is my frst full season. You can condemn me all you bloody well like but we are only 7 weeks into the season...

Not condemning you bro. You started it by trying to insult me. I knew for fact I was playing my cards well better then you. When you said Mikhail over Grosjean and I went the other way.. you saw the wrong scroreboard and thought you were right and tried to tell me .. oh twisty is going to lose and have a bad day, you were really feeling good right?...

And opps the scoreboards were wrong, grojsean kicked mikhails booty.. :)

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 03:08 PM
Straight from someone's IM:

"he seems pissed that you're doing a lot better than him"

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 03:09 PM
Not condemning you bro. You started it by trying to insult me. I knew for fact I was playing my cards well better then you. When you said Mikhail over Grosjean and I went the other way.. you saw the wrong scroreboard and thought you were right and tried to tell me .. oh twisty is going to lose and have a bad day, you were really feeling good right?...

And opps the scoreboards were wrong, grojsean kicked mikhails booty.. :)

I saw the ATP scorebaord so why would I think it were wrong? I didn't knock you back...I simply stated the score to you and yes I was wrong. And if you can directly quote my bragging to you that you were wrong then I stand down...evidence further of your lying behaviour.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 03:14 PM
Straight from someone's IM:

"he seems pissed that you're doing a lot better than him"

Nope - I like it when someone does well. I don't like anyone who doesn't tell things as they are, REGARDLESS of how they are doing. My job is to TRY to pick winners...I haven't done it well recently. I congratulate your good form.

But bragging about your winners, which is something you do a lot of, is not good form. Bragging about records which are nowhere near as good as they actually are is not good form.

I don't care what people say about me. Besides, you never revealed to me just who that person was, if (s)he even exists. They shoud tell it to my face and not be so cowardly.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 04:26 PM
Ghez man all that time spent researching and following scoreboards is paying off :angel: A True "Professional Grade"

1. I seem to recall that it was mostly you telling me what the scores were...a lot of the time whilst I displayed the "busy" sign on my MSN. That was between all the time you were updating scores on your bets to me (despite me not having any interest in those matches) and asking me for a moment before I went to bed on one occasion to tell me that all your bets had won when I could have quite easily read and responded to that on MTF. :confused:

2. I spend about 5 - 10 minutes research per bet I make - and you and most people here know that I make only a couple of bets a day. I don't research all matches...only ones that appeal to me on first glance.

3. I like to give reasons for backing the player I go with. Some people don't like to do that - that is fine. The reason I do that is to prove to people that I have good reasons to back a player, and it is then for them to decide whether to go with me.

4. I seem to recall that it was you who added me to your MSN contacts list after the Australian Open. You wanted advice on betting and you asked my advice on winners of various matches. It was also at that time that I was doing well. Right now I'm not and you're quick to criticise.

5. I am a student - I have very little money. For this reason I operate a "responsible gambling" system. I only place 1 - 2 bets a day and I either die by them or I live by them, in betting terms. I accept losing days. I don't try to get my losses back when, on several days I could have done if I took the risk. I like to think that some people respect my system and it is a good system for people of my current financial status (and people new to betting) to use. It just so happens that of the several matches I look at per day, I have picked the losing ones. Crap happens...especially so far this year what with the strange trend of results.

Your system is different - you make many bets a day and if you lose money, you try to get it back immediately. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. You had a good day on Friday, but from looking at your spreadsheet, it seems that had you not made 2 late additions of Roddick 2-0 and Bjorkman/McEnroe, you would have ended the say on a loss. This after your heavy lean wins and you were trying to give me advice on my staking plan the other day :confused:

6. I do my job. You do yours. I welcome your other gambling "friend" who chats to you on MSN to come forward and tell me how badly I am currently doing. (S)he has had the chance to do so a number of ways: MSN, private MTF email, gambling forum, my thread on TTS...but (s)he hasn't done so. I doubt this person exists, and if they do, I don't take any notice of positive/negative comments made through a medium such as yourself as your credibility is distorted.

:bigwave:

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 05:34 PM
...evidence further of your lying behaviour.

Oh big evidence huh? So you saying you dont lie?

Just last week and this week you told me never to bet what MistaFlava bets.. in your specific words you said he is getting deseperate when he made the $1000 and $2500 wagers on Ancic, Carlsen, and Clement. You claimed he was chases his loses from Dent's match and that he's bound to get screwed by his high waging.

However, just yesterday you announced in one of the threads that Flava is "genius"...

So what do you really think? Is what you're posting on the boards real or you making B.S. stuff because you saw mista won yet again so you praise him, when you claimed he was a bad gambler?

DO I need to post MSN logs or are you going to claim im full of shit again?

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 05:36 PM
at least I am man enough to tell people exactly how it is.

Oh if you're such a man why not post your complete betting history for 2006? Let's see that whole $100 bank of yoours and that you're up 10 units which is probably $10 bucks.

It is fair to the readers on MTF to know because while you're waging what is probably lunch money, other people are waging hundreds of dollars. If an MTF reader has followed your tips over the past week they could be out over $1000!!!! Do you think it's fair not showing what you're really betting?

SadrieL
02-18-2006, 05:48 PM
My tennis betting history is 100% in the red, where a true mug should be.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 05:50 PM
Twisty...this is getting boring. But I'll answer anyway and I don't want this to go any further.

1. I did say to you to be careful of what Mista bets - yes. But when you follow any expert, you have to have a reason to follow a tip and not behave like a sheep. I only wanted you to know what you were doing and you were certainly reckless at first with your betting. Of course he is a good gambler - look at his record! He has experience and talent that I could only dream about. But you need to be able to form your own opinion too, and some of his selections were interesting...I picked out the Ancic match over DC as one of them to you. I was right in saying there were others that day that were easier to predict and at better odds. But if you ask for an opinion on any gamber's picks, I give it to you, good or bad. Isn't that what you wanted? And if you ask any other gambler opinions on my picks, they will give them to you, goo or bad. I can't say anything and won't say anything more on that. Mista is so much better than me and most people here at tennis gambling. I think it is not good form of you to bring him into an argument between the two of us.

2. My bets aren't $100s but what does that prove? I put them in units (a % of my balance) which means that any person can follow them and stake a % of their own balance. This means that it is all proportionate. Some of us aren't as privileged as you when it comes to 6 figure salaries.

3. You don't read my threads on TTS. I have posted each individual bet I have made this year and my record as I go along and at the end of each tournament week. I don't see how it makes any difference if I post a spreadsheet here...besides, it is in Microsoft Works format and doesn't upload.

4. I will continue to post my plays, analysis and results on here - if you don't like them then I'm sorry.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 05:54 PM
...and finally matey, whilst I may have cost people $1000s, that really isn't my problem. People have opinions...they can decide whether to go with me or not.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 06:02 PM
Let's see that whole $100 bank of yoours and that you're up 10 units which is probably $10 bucks.

I use a proportionate system which everyone can relate to.

It is fair to the readers on MTF to know because while you're waging what is probably lunch money, other people are waging hundreds of dollars. If an MTF reader has followed your tips over the past week they could be out over $1000!!!! Do you think it's fair not showing what you're really betting?

So are you saying that because I don't earn for a living right now and have no money that I can't bet? That is a little discriminatory isn't it? :shrug:

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 06:05 PM
I use a proportionate system which everyone can relate to.



So are you saying that because I don't earn for a living right now and have no money that I can't bet? That is a little discriminatory isn't it? :shrug:

Not really jez.. The reason is people tend to be more careful with money when playing with $5000 then playing with $50? You see how careful brokerage managers and other investors deal with millions of dollars? One fuckup could cost a lot of people..

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 06:07 PM
Not really jez.. The reason is people tend to be more careful with money when playing with $5000 then playing with $50? You see how careful brokerage managers and other investors deal with millions of dollars? One fuckup could cost a lot of people..

So...what? You can do a better job than me?

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 06:09 PM
Twisty...this is getting boring. But I'll answer anyway and I don't want this to go any further.


You started a boring thing mate.

You had a down day and I just said my opinion on how to improve your days. You said you had picked winners like Santoro and Ancic but you didn't bet on them, instead you bet on the loser. So I said maybe if you bet all your leans it woulda worked out. You could have taken that opinion and said thanks but I like my strategy better. Instead, you had to poke fun of my gambling history thinking you were ahead of me on tennis. I disproved that greatly by proving to you that i've doubled my money since 2006. I thought that was the defintion of return on investment, if it's not then whatever. You're up 10 whole units .. well after calleri lost today you're probably up 5 units now (which is 1 stake)...

You started a boring thing.. if you want it ended then you should stop replying.

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 06:10 PM
So...what? You can do a better job than me?

Never said I could do a better job than anyone. But since you made a contest of things, I'm sure ahead of you right now. Since you're up by 5 units, that puts your profit for the year at about 6% .. Profit from original investment at 1/1/2006.

I'm up 1000, original investment is 1000.. THat puts me at 100% return since I started during the AO.

Oh lookie lookie.. 100% > 6%? :D :wavey: :confused:

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 06:17 PM
Never said I could do a better job than anyone. But since you made a contest of things, I'm sure ahead of you right now. Since you're up by 5 units, that puts your profit for the year at about 6% .. Profit from original investment at 1/1/2006.

I'm up 1000, original investment is 1000.. THat puts me at $100 return since I started during the AO.

Okay, so you're ahead of me now. Big deal. My ROI is about 1% right now because of this appalling week. Yours is little better at about 7%. If you are going to compare, you have to compare that way.

Also, this is week 7 of 48. I think it is a little rich of you to start making a song and dance about things this early in the year.

I go back to what I said before. I make 1 - 2 bets a day. What are the chances that someone follows all of them when there are 12+ matches per day.

Go to TTS and look at the tiny biography of each of the 3 guys in the Tennis Experts forum. Which guy in there hasn't had any capping experience mentioned in the biography? From the information supplied about him, why do you think he is there?

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 06:21 PM
You started a boring thing mate.

You stretched my patience one jot too far by taking the moral highground. You added me on MSN because you obviously thought I could be of some benefit to you. I think I helped you a little. You threw it back in my face.

Besides, I only pointed out the negative aspects of your staking system. See your picks for Friday 17th February. You staked it wrong...despite crowing about it.

The only problems I have with you are your pig-headedness and your posting of wrong scores...the latter for which I think you have learnt your lesson from others on these boards.

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 06:21 PM
Okay, so you're ahead of me now. Big deal. My ROI is about 1% right now because of this appalling week. Yours is little better at about 7%. If you are going to compare, you have to compare that way.


If that's the definion of ROI then its dumb.

1.) If I increased my betting volume and still had the same success rate my ROI would go down.

2.) The biggest thing everyone should look at is: How much money relative to original investment is back. If you started with $1000 for the year and now you have $5000 id say you're pretty damn good even if your ROI is only 8%.. And that's possible..

Here's an example:

Lets say I place $90000 in bets and I have $94000 in return. That would put my ROI at only 4% even if I started at $1000 for the year.. Get it? Trust someone that's gone through 4 years of college and does intense math as part of a living.

How much you make on your original investment is the best idicatator of success.. ; real estate, stocks, bonds, mutual funds etc all calculated by the same way.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 06:24 PM
Everyone I have come accross does ROI on the basis of exactly how they have staked in bets as the investment, and their winnings as returns. If you want to go by your ROI system, then my ROI is slightly higher, although lower than yours at the moment anyway. But I really don't care.

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 06:24 PM
I think I helped you a little. You threw it back in my face.
.

No mate.. I ask everyones opinion on their picks and I make my own. Every time I went against you, you would get upset, say I'm throwing it back at your face etc.. I've won many times going against you. Grosjean over Mikhail, Massu over DOM, Wayne Arthors over Bobby Reynolds etc.

I value everyones opinion but just caues I ask for your help doesn't mean I'm going to go along with it.

Likewise I told you Boris would beat Martin and u went against that. I told you not to hit those parlays and you continue to do it. You're only down because of bad parlay.. Haas, Kiefer, Stephake, etc.

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 06:25 PM
Everyone I have come accross does ROI on the basis of exactly how they have staked in bets as the investment, and their winnings as returns. If you want to go by your ROI system, then my ROI is slightly higher, although lower than yours at the moment anyway. But I really don't care.

So you think someone that starts with $1000 and does high volume betting with the following results is doing worst than me? lol:

Lets say I place $90000 in bets and I have $94000 in return. That would put my ROI at only 4% even if they started $1000 for the year..

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 06:28 PM
You quite clearly risk a lot of money on your bets and your aim is to win lots of money. I risk a proportionate sum so that I don't lose anything in the short run and my aim is to end up with profit, although not a lot as I use a proportionate system.

My system has proved better than yours this year so please don't try to dispute that - and I don't intend to brag about this either, but it has to be spelled out to you. This poor run of 9 out of 11 bets losing doesn't often happen. However, are you not able to find 1 iota of respect for the fact that I am still somehow in profit because of it? That is a good gambler and a responsible gambler.

I don't want to pick issues here but if I had a similar run on your system, I'd be down $1000s - in fact I'd be bankrupt because you went all in on a couple of occasions.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 06:30 PM
If you had 100% ROI in the space of 2 days then you'd be a genius. I'm sorry but you haven't got that. You have done well but you can't claim something you don't have! :lol:

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 06:31 PM
Besides, I only pointed out the negative aspects of your staking system. See your picks for Friday 17th February. You staked it wrong...despite crowing about it.


Sorry mate but I left out my picks from pinnacle.. Which include Roddick wins 2-0 and I had increased stakes on Spadea on pinnacle as well..

You can say I'm lying but do you not see my post about Roddick Wins 2-0, and do you not see that bet on the spreadsheet... I had recently openned an aco**** with pinnacle and forgot to include it in the spreadsheet.

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 06:32 PM
If you had 100% ROI in the space of 2 days then you'd be a genius. I'm sorry but you haven't got that. You have done well but you can't claim something you don't have! :lol:

Thanks for the compliment. I didn't know the gamblers terminology for ROI, hell 4 weeks ago I didnt know what Unit means..

My bad.. correction: I'm at 100% profits since my original investment for 2006.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 06:32 PM
No mate.. I ask everyones opinion on their picks and I make my own. Every time I went against you, you would get upset, say I'm throwing it back at your face etc.. I've won many times going against you. Grosjean over Mikhail, Massu over DOM, Wayne Arthors over Bobby Reynolds etc.

I value everyones opinion but just caues I ask for your help doesn't mean I'm going to go along with it.

Likewise I told you Boris would beat Martin and u went against that. I told you not to hit those parlays and you continue to do it. You're only down because of bad parlay.. Haas, Kiefer, Stephake, etc.

That's not entirely true. I only get upset when you hit something based on your standard analysis to me which was "Player X sux" I gave you a hell of a lot of my time over those days we were in contact and that annoyed me!

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 06:35 PM
That's not entirely true. I only get upset when you hit something based on your standard analysis to me which was "Player X sux" I gave you a hell of a lot of my time over those days we were in contact and that annoyed me!

Sometimes all the analysis in the world cant predict an outcome; if that were the case you'd be at 50% ROI.

SOmetimes it's just pure gut instinct and a little luck. And sometimes Play X Sux is just good enough; example of why I started gambling just 4 weeks ago and I haven't gone bankrupt.

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-18-2006, 06:37 PM
:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

At the start of this year, about 2 weeks after the AO, I had a ROI of 50%, which is pretty good.:rolleyes: Means, I did bet on odds of 1.50 average and I'm in profit. Got it? And why do you insult Jez?:rolleyes: He has a bad run, yeah. But that is normal for everyone. No one said this forums is there to tail everyone's pick, build your own opinion, not everyone gives real picks unlike Jez. So stop the utter BS:retard:

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 06:39 PM
Sorry mate but I left out my picks from pinnacle.. Which include Roddick wins 2-0 and I had increased stakes on Spadea on pinnacle as well..

You can say I'm lying but do you not see my post about Roddick Wins 2-0, and do you not see that bet on the spreadsheet... I had recently openned an aco**** with pinnacle and forgot to include it in the spreadsheet.

I'm not going to make judgments on what I can't see.

I know that you made 2 more bets after that but that isn't the issue. Also, you want to make a song and dance about my poor streak...how many opportunities do I let go to get my winnings back on those days? I don't believe in chasing losses - you do....fair does.

We have totally different gambling systems, strategies, and aims. The only thing we can compare is ROI.

My job description isn't to show people that I can make £X profit - I keep a record just to keep some people happy. I am simply here to offer my thoughts on the matches and to try to advertise the ones that have the best chances of winning. I haven't done the latter part well over the last week. I post in-depth analysis which you rarely read...people who read it can form their own opinions on the matches I offer. That is why I take the trouble to post it.

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 06:39 PM
:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

At the start of this year, about 2 weeks after the AO, I had a ROI of 50%, which is pretty good.:rolleyes: Means, I did bet on odds of 1.50 average and I'm in profit. Got it? And why do you insult Jez?:rolleyes: He has a bad run, yeah. But that is normal for everyone. No one said this forums is there to tail everyone's pick, build your own opinion, not everyone gives real picks unlike Jez. So stop the utter BS:retard:

Review the threads. Jez insulted me and I came in showing evidence... Then the bickering starts and I make jez look stupid. Okay so sorry.

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-18-2006, 06:41 PM
Review the threads. Jez insulted me and I came in showing evidence... Then the bickering starts and I make jez look stupid. Okay so sorry.
Man, I know the BS which goes around here and MSN.

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-18-2006, 06:42 PM
But how the fuck can you be in profit after that "misstake" you made with that Olympia bet?:rolleyes: -1k already.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 06:42 PM
example of why I started gambling just 4 weeks ago and I haven't gone bankrupt.

You cannot claim that your system is any better than mine when you got to the stage of going "all in" at least twice. What will you do if you have a week similar to mine this year? I have a sneaking suspicion that you would go "all in" again simply because you have money to fall back on and you can invest more in your betting account.

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-18-2006, 06:44 PM
And the stake doesn't really count, it's the ROI.

Give me 20k and I will turn it into 100k for you.

Simlar to, turning 20 into 100, right?

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 06:44 PM
But how the fuck can you be in profit after that "misstake" you made with that Olympia bet?:rolleyes: -1k already.

Talking about tennis profits.. IF you want to talk about all profits we could mention my superbowl victory? Remember that screenshot where I won $500+?

Do we gotta calculate net income and everything now? NO this is a tennis forum so I'm talkin about tennis.

Why you even in here anyway? I thought you quit after you got cleaned out by Haas when Gasquet bet him?

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 06:44 PM
Review the threads. Jez insulted me and I came in showing evidence... Then the bickering starts and I make jez look stupid. Okay so sorry.

You made me look stupid? When?

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 06:44 PM
And the stake doesn't really count, it's the ROI.

Give me 20k and I will turn it into 100k for you.

Simlar to, turning 20 into 100, right?

If you can turn 20k into 100k then you're better then anyone here. You'll be a rich rich man.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 06:44 PM
And the stake doesn't really count, it's the ROI.

Give me 20k and I will turn it into 100k for you.

Simlar to, turning 20 into 100, right?

Couldn't have phrased that better myself :worship:

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 06:45 PM
You made me look stupid? When?

That's just what someone said to me on MSN.. that I should stop before you start crying more.. i think i will now.. because i actually have something to do..

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 06:46 PM
That's just what someone said to me on MSN.. that I should stop before you start crying more.. i think i will now.. because i actually have something to do..

Oh please...tell me who this cowardly person is. I'm dying to know! :lol:

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-18-2006, 06:46 PM
Talking about tennis profits.. IF you want to talk about all profits we could mention my superbowl victory? Remember that screenshot where I won $500+?

Do we gotta calculate net income and everything now? NO this is a tennis forum so I'm talkin about tennis.

Why you even in here anyway? I thought you quit after you got cleaned out by Haas when Gasquet bet him?
Mate, I'm not "cleaned out" I just lost more than 75% of my profits this year. Still bucks in the bank.

I don't care man, you came on here with having nothing, asking Jez and my advice and now just because we played serval losers, and you had a good time that you are any better? Arrogant. :wavey:

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-18-2006, 06:48 PM
If you can turn 20k into 100k then you're better then anyone here. You'll be a rich rich man.
Man, I started with 100£ in my bank.
And I turned it into 500£ within something more than a week.

Now let's do some maths.

Let's say I would have 100k starting balance.
1 week later I'd be a half-millionaire. :wavey:

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 06:48 PM
That's just what someone said to me on MSN.. that I should stop before you start crying more.. i think i will now.. because i actually have something to do..

...and you didn't answer my question. What have you said tha makes me feel stupid?

...and if you won't reveal this guy's name, at least give me his MSN address.

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-18-2006, 06:49 PM
That's just what someone said to me on MSN.. that I should stop before you start crying more.. i think i will now.. because i actually have something to do..
C'mon, you can do it better! Just say it was me. :rolleyes: But you can't make me look "stupid" because no one believes you, sorry man.

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 06:53 PM
Man, I started with 100£ in my bank.
And I turned it into 500£ within something more than a week.

Now let's do some maths.

Let's say I would have 100k starting balance.
1 week later I'd be a half-millionaire. :wavey:

The problem is if you had 100k you wouldnt be 15 yrs old. Also if you were gambling with 100k you wouldn't be so careless and make crazy bets that you got lucky on and won. Like I said before, the $$$ amount of your wager is very important to gauge the reliablity of your pick.

Jez is playing with 10 bucks then he's not as careful as someone thats about to drop $10 grand.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 06:56 PM
Like I said before, the $$$ amount of your wager is very important to gauge the reliablity of your pick.

And that is any different to % stakes?

Jez is playing with 10 bucks then he's not as careful as someone thats about to drop $10 grand.

You really are as thick as two short planks and arrogant. You have no idea how many £s I place on bets. Besides, my lower stakes mean as much to me as someone who puts $1000s on matches. The end result is that we both can't afford to lose :scratch:

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-18-2006, 06:59 PM
The problem is if you had 100k you wouldnt be 15 yrs old. Also if you were gambling with 100k you wouldn't be so careless and make crazy bets that you got lucky on and won. Like I said before, the $$$ amount of your wager is very important to gauge the reliablity of your pick.

Jez is playing with 10 bucks then he's not as careful as someone thats about to drop $10 grand.
Didn't your mum teach you that money isn't everything in the big wide world?:awww:

What does my bets make crazy? :confused:

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-18-2006, 07:00 PM
Now you mean there's a difference between someone staking 10$ or 1000$, let's say 10% of their balance.?:scratch:
10% is 10%:cuckoo:

TwistyServe
02-18-2006, 07:01 PM
Now you mean there's a difference between someone staking 10$ or 1000$, let's say 10% of their balance.?:scratch:
10% is 10%:cuckoo:

Much if a difference.. a kid thats 15yr old won't understand that claimed he droped $2500 on haas and lost, and then claimed he was quitting ... wont understand

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 07:01 PM
Didn't your mum teach you that money isn't everything in the big wide world?:awww:

What does my bets make crazy? :confused:

The 6-figure salary overshadows his judgment :rolleyes:

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-18-2006, 07:02 PM
Much if a difference.. a kid thats 15yr old won't understand.
:rolleyes:
Mate, this is cyber. I could be 100 yrs old. :confused: Who said that I'm actually 15? And why won't a 15 yrs old kid understand maths?

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-18-2006, 07:03 PM
Much if a difference.. a kid thats 15yr old won't understand that claimed he droped $2500 on haas and lost, and then claimed he was quitting ... wont understand
Lying makes the life. :wavey:

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-18-2006, 07:04 PM
The 6-figure salary overshadows his judgment :rolleyes:
Well and then crying when losing 3 bets in a row.:awww: but hey! You still have 99k left to burn.:cool:

Horatio Caine
02-18-2006, 07:18 PM
You know what pal...I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt. If you end up going bankrupt or having a similar bad run to me in a few weeks, I'll turn the other cheek, unlike you. Similarly, if I happen to have a better run by the end of the year and you crash out bankrupt in September, I won't brag.

Your aim is to make much money. My aim is to post winners and any money I earn on the side will come in useful for some nights out at uni, and to help pay off my loan.

I hope you feel proud of yourself. :wave: