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Deboogle!.
11-04-2003, 08:14 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031104/ap_en_tv/roddick_reality_show_2

Tennis Star Roddick to Have Reality Show
50 minutes ago


NEW YORK - As if being the top-ranked tennis player in the world and dating pop star Mandy Moore (news) didn't make him enough of a celebrity, Andy Roddick will soon have his own reality show.


"The Tour" will track the 21-year-old U.S. Open (news - web sites) champion next summer as he deals with fame, fans and fellow players.


"I am totally amped for this show," Roddick said Tuesday. "I'm just this guy who happens to play tennis, but my life has become this circus. It's a wild ride, and I've given 'The Tour' producers total access ... except my bedroom — sorry, I have to draw the line somewhere!"


Moore, however, told The Associated Press last month that she wouldn't want to be the subject of any reality show, although she's a big fan of MTV's "Newlyweds," about pop singers Nick Lachey and Jessica Simpson (news).


"My personal life is my personal life and it's behind closed doors," the 19-year-old singer-actress said. "I like watching other people, though."


Cameras will follow Roddick from May to September next year during the 2004 ATP Tour. Craig H. Shepherd, producer of the hit series "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," will pitch the show to broadcast networks this week.


Roddick also is hosting "Saturday Night Live (news - Y! TV)" this weekend.
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this CAN'T be necessary!!!

MisterQ
11-04-2003, 08:35 PM
you've got to be kidding!

why would he do that to himself?!

and I thought tennis was a nice escape from reality television, lol!

Deboogle!.
11-04-2003, 08:42 PM
glad someone thought the same way I did LOL!!

I like some reality tv but combining it with sports??? He has the personality to carry a show, of that I'm sure, but all this publicity crap isn't helping his cause to be looked at as a "serious tennis player" LOL!

I'm skeptical now, but if the tennis stays absolutely priority numero uno, I guess it's ok. Queer Eye is one of my fave reality shows so if it's the same person, it could be ok. Plus it hasn't even been purchased yet.... I wonder what network would pick it up. Maybe no one will want it and it'll be a non-issue lol

Deboogle!.
11-04-2003, 08:48 PM
true... but that's not how the 'haters' will view it - it's already started in GM.... why did I start going up there again? Those 2 days of staying away were nice..... I'm a masochist, I just can't help myself :/

J. Corwin
11-04-2003, 09:35 PM
Because the GM is rife with Andy threads, that is why lol.

I'm quite surprised at this to be honest. Leave it to Andy to pioneer tennis. lol

star
11-04-2003, 09:44 PM
I don't think it will be good for his tennis.

If there's one thing the legendary numberones had in common, it was focus. Maybe not McEnroe, but Andy's no McEnroe.

Deboogle!.
11-04-2003, 09:46 PM
yepyepyep

Deboogle!.
11-04-2003, 09:51 PM
Because the GM is rife with Andy threads, that is why lol.


But for every Andy thread there's a jerk writing in it lol

It's calmed down there a little so I don't feel so defensive..... if it gets nuts again next week or whatever I'm sure I'll have to leave again

star
11-04-2003, 10:58 PM
Well, not simply A jerk. :) That's a little on the rosy side.

Deboogle!.
11-04-2003, 11:06 PM
Yes, I meant one jerk for every thread... that adds up to be a lot LOL!

Anyway, a better article about all this from Tennis Week. It's not just Andy...

http://www.sportsmediainc.com/tennisweek/index.cfm?func=showarticle&newsid=9849&bannerregion=

The Tour To Present Roddick's Reality TV
By Richard Pagliaro
11/05/2003

Reality television is coming to the ATP Tour. If you always wanted to experience life as a professional tennis player, but lacked the world-ranking necessary to compete on the circuit, you can exchange your racquet for a remote and join top-ranked Andy Roddick, Brian Vahaly and the world's top doubles team, the Bryan Brothers, to gain a glimpse of life on the Tour.



"The Tour" is a proposed new reality television series which follow the highs and lows of Roddick as he strives to sustain his prominent place at the top of tennis. The show will contrast Roddick's lifestyle and experiences on the road with those of 82nd-ranked Brian Vahaly and the top-ranked doubles twins Bob Bryan and Mike Bryan.

Created by Craig H. Shepherd, who is the producer of the current NBC/Bravo hit series "Queer Eye For The Straight Guy", the show has already signed the four players as its principal participants and is seeking a distribution deal with network television.

"Andy Roddick is in the center of the latest athlete-as-rock star phenomena," Shepherd told Tennis Week.com in an interview today. "Go to a tennis match today and you see actresses like Minnie Driver, Tara Reid, musicians, models, politicians and media moguls. Tennis players have jumped off the sports pages and into the gossip columns. Look at Andy Roddick's life this week: he's practicing for the Masters Cup, rehearsing for Saturday Night Live eight hours a day, he's going to do a charity event for his mother and then he comes back to perform on Saturday Night Live. He's young, he's good looking, he's the best in the world at his profession, he's already accomplished more than most of us will accomplish in our lifetimes and he's only 21 years old."

The show starts shooting next May at Roland Garros and will follow Roddick, Vahaly and the Bryan Brothers in their journey from the French Open in Paris through their entire summer tournament schedule culminating with Roddick's defense of his U.S. Open championship in New York next summer. Shepherd, who will be on the road with the players, plans to shoot hundreds of hours of behind-the-scenes footage and distill it into 12 or 13 one-hour episodes for the series.

"The Tour is essentially about life and the human element and drama inherent in the lives of these players," Shepherd said. "Reality television does this: it makes something out of nothing. A show like 'Survivor', for instance, creates obstacles for players. Our show makes something out of something: the drama, the challenge, the obstacles are already there. They're inherent in the competition of tennis and we will follow these players through each tournament and see how they handle the pressure, the fame, the demands on their time and the loneliness of life on the road. There is the tension and drama every day of competing on the ATP Tour: you win, you make money, you make your career better and go on. You lose, your salary stops and you go home."

Roddick's rise to the No. 1 ranking followed his first career Grand Slam championship at the U.S. Open in September, but the idea for the show came a year ago before Roddick's big break through. Shepherd created the concept for the show spontaneously while watching Roddick's 5-7, 6-4, 6-4, 6-4 victory over Juan Ignacio Chela in the fourth round of the 2002 U.S. Open. In one of the most riveting rallies of the tournament, Roddick ran down several deep drives from Chela before finally fighting through to win the point. As the crowd exploded in appreciation of Roddick's efforts, the young American dropped his racquet to the court, raised his arms in triumph then leaped into the crowd where he spent several seconds high-fiving enthusiastic fans.

It was a single point in a tennis match, but it was the point when the power of a performance brought player and crowd together as one that struck Shepherd as inspirational.

"The one thing that did it for me was the 2002 U.S. Open, there was a long, exciting point that really got the crowd into it and when Andy finally won this point, he dropped his racquet and went into the crowd and gave the people in the crowd a high five," Shepherd said. "It just immediately struck me here's one instance when a guy single-handedly brought the crowd into this match more than any tennis player had done by his actions that were saying: 'You know what? We're all in this together. I'm playing my heart out for you and you're getting excited and it's all about us in this together.' It was incredible."

Since that match Roddick has exhibited cross-over appeal that has seen the Boca Raton resident transform himself from a tennis player to a pop culture figure who has graced the pages of Rolling Stone magazine, appeared on TV sitcoms, continued his relationship with actress/singer Mandy Moore and will become the first tennis player to host Saturday Night Live since Chris Evert this Saturday.

"Andy is already bringing tennis into a new arena and he's becoming a pop culture icon whether he wants to be one or not," Shepherd said. "The Tour will show how Andy Roddick is positioned in the media, how he handles the pressure of celebrity, fame and the choices he makes when everyone wants a piece of you. We'll see how he makes decisions and how those decisions impact his tennis career: the more popular he becomes the more demand on his time and the less time he has for tennis. This is a guy on the verge of making $30 to $50 million in endorsements the next three to give years. How do you manage that type of career and that type of responsibility at such a young age?"

The 36-year-old Shepherd has extensive experience in sports. A self-taught tennis player, Shepherd played point guard for the NYU basketball team, which played several games in Manhattan's Madison Square Garden. A former financial analyst for CBS Sports, Shepherd attended NYU's prestigious film school and began his career producing feature films, including "Edge of Seventeen". Shepherd said Roddick does not have creative control over the show's content, which gives the producers the right to select the footage that will air in the series and creates the possibility of candid moments that made such reality shows as "The Osbournes" so popular.

"I'm totally amped for this show," Roddick said in a statement. "I'm just this guy who happens to play tennis, but my life has become this circus. It's a wild ride, and I've given The Tour producers total access — except my bedroom — sorry, I have to draw the line somewhere."

Though Roddick's status as the world's premier player gives him top billing, Shepherd says a strength of the show will be in the contrast it presents in the public and private lifestyles of Roddick, Vahaly and the Bryan brothers. All four players are friends and Roddick has been close to the Bryans for years.

"The series will compare and contrast the lives and situations of the No. 1 player in the world, Andy Roddick, with a mid-level player like Vahaly," Shepherd said. "Brian Vahaly is a college-educated, likeable character who is sort of the everyman of the tour. The choices and pressures he faces are different from Roddick. And the Bryan brothers have an interesting dynamic as identical twins. I have twin sisters and I have seen first hand what they go through: they need to perform together on the court as a unit, but off the court they have their own identities and can sometimes want to kill each other. So each of these four guys has an interesting story and offers something unique. And we set all this human drama against some of the most scenic and beautiful settings in the world from Paris to London to New York. We're very excited about it."

Excitement isn't one of the feelings television programmers typically feel toward tennis in recent years. When it comes to generating significant television ratings, tennis has been more American Idle than American Idol as Roger Federer's victory over Mark Philippoussis in this year's Wimbledon final produced the lowest overnight rating in history and ratings for the U.S. Open final between Justine Henin-Hardenne and Kim Clijsters plummeted 52 percent from the previous year when Serena Williams beat older sister Venus. In the bottom-line business of television, numbers play a primary part in programming, and that ratings rise when American stars — particularly Agassi, Roddick and the Williams sisters — play.

Shepherd says he's not concerned with tennis' inability to register resounding ratings. Stressing "The Tour" is a show about the people who play tennis rather than a tennis show, Shepherd believes the show's success will be based on the drama inherent in sport.

"This is not a tennis show and I'm not trying to create a savior show to increase tennis viewership," Shepherd said. "This show is not just for people who watch tennis because they already watch it. This show is for people who don't necessarily watch tennis. I liken 'The Tour' to the NBC show 'The Restaurant' in that that show had nothing to do with food, it had to do with the drama and human conflict of creating a business. The Tour has little to do with tennis per se, it's based on the human tension, the excitement, the joy, the pain, the disappointment and the drama with participating on the ATP Tour. The visibility is higher, the stakes are greater, the rewards are larger and the failures are much more public."

SanTaureau Fan
11-05-2003, 01:14 AM
Wow, this is so great, hopfully we'll get to see it in Canada.

I know it's the not the same thing, but they followed 4 tennis players for a couple of months to make a documentary (Mélanie Marois, Kanepi, Andy Roddick and a fourth one I forgot) and it was great to watch.

Havok
11-05-2003, 02:16 AM
people, don't worry about this. you are blowing things out of proportion, and i think we can intill a little more trust in Andy, now can we??? he has Brad with him, and do you think Brad will make him do things that will jeopardise his tennis career, hell no. for Andy, tennis is ALWAYS #1!!! never forget that. these things he's doing is to get the name of the sport out to the public. i think Andy can handle these things, heck he's been handling these things all his life. if he can handle the constats " what does it feel like to be the future of tennis" CRAP he got every single post match script, and shut them up by becoming the PRESENT of tennis, not only in america, i think he can handle this. he's been in the public eye for a while now, ever since he turned pro. and just realize that all these things are all coming at once because before he wasn't at the top of his game, but now he is. it won't affect his tennis career, at least i dont think so, because i have trust in him. he is quite capable of using his better judgement, and when things will get out of control, which i dont think will happen because he wont let it happen, he'll say no to things. right now he's in prime positio to get the name of tennis out there to the public, and all i can say is that its about damn time someone took the initiative. if he's not gonna do it, who will. how is tennis supposed to attract more viewers? Andy, from day 1, has always said he's willing to do everything he's capable of to promote tennis to the public, and since he's doing all these things, i think its because he's capable of doing it. i'm sorry if i appear a little hot headed, but im a little tired of hearing Andy fans lose faith and trust in him. yes i KNOW you are concerned about him and his tennis career, but Andy is here for a reason, TO PLAY TENNIS. nothing will get in his way when it comes to tennis and achievements. we should be embracing this because who in their tennis career can say that they were on SNL, or have their own reality tv show, if it does happen. he's making a name for himself, much like the William sisters are for WTA. i personally think its a good thing. go Andy:banana::bounce:

Deboogle!.
11-05-2003, 02:20 AM
Naldo, please stop talking down to us just because we worry about Andy. You can disagree without being condescending. Above and beyond, all we care about is his tennis and I think it's hard to find fault in that. We're not over-reacting, we're just discussing our concerns.

Personally, I disagree with you. As I said in the GM, the producer of this The Tour show likened it to The Restaurant - I don't know if you saw it, but the food at the place was horrible until the cameras left. Makes you think.... well makes ME think, anyway.

I'm not saying anything specific will happen, it all remains to be seen. If the show doesn't get picked up by a network, it's rather moot anyway, and it's very likely that Andy will do the show and his tennis will be just fine, too. But there's the possibility of the opposite as well and that has to realistically be examined and considered. I just don't think it's a great idea. There are other ways to raise the profile of the sport than having cameras follow you around 24/7 during the most important part of your season which for Andy is the summer, when he always has his best results and next year will have a BUTTLOAD of points to defend. I just don't think it's the best idea, but I'm certainly open to being proved wrong. You don't have to agree, but you have to respect those of us who see it this way.

SanTaureau Fan
11-05-2003, 02:44 AM
and it's very likely that Andy will do the show and his tennis will be just fine, too. But there's the possibility of the opposite as well and that has to realistically be examined and considered.

Everything possible but life is not just about tennis and winning tournements even if he's a tennis player. If he wants to try things like hosting a tv show and stuff like that, why not? Maybe it's going to affect his tennis, but at least he'll be able to say that he tried other things in his life than hitting a yellow ball.

I would rather say that I won 3 slams in my life and tried a couple of life experience like television rather than winning 5 slams and doing about nothing else.

Deboogle!.
11-05-2003, 02:49 AM
Sure, but I still don't see the problem in discussing it. I'm not saying he should or should not do anything - he's a big boy and he can make his own choices. But I can still say that those choices concern me a little. And I don't think saying so is particularly blowing the situation out of proportion.

SanTaureau Fan
11-05-2003, 02:51 AM
Who has a problem discussing it? That's what we are doing right now. If it concerns you, that's your opinion, and everyone respects it.

star
11-05-2003, 03:00 AM
I think her point was that she felt Naldo was chastising her for having those concerns. That's all.

Deboogle!.
11-05-2003, 03:02 AM
:kiss:

Havok
11-05-2003, 03:27 AM
no im not trying to talk down on you or other people, now you're making me feel like crap. its just that hearing all this stuff about andy this and andy that and what he should/shouldnt to is just a tad annoying. i KNOW you people are talking about this out of true concern, but let's just trust his judgement and let him live his own life. i think he is big enough to make his wow decisions, he knows whats going on in his life better than anyone, all we can do is speculate what goes on in his life. just showing some confidence in his decisions and being genuinely happy for him would be a nice change of pace, ever since it was official about him doing SNL there was some doubts. i KNOW its out of concern but we gotta trust in his decisions. thats all. im not saying this to be mean or anything, and NOT directing it on one singular person, i was talking in general, kinda like the roddick haters clump us up into the same group:lol: again sorry if i came off as being mean, which i wasnt, its just a little weird that some fans are questioning his decision making, etc thats all.

Deboogle!.
11-05-2003, 03:43 AM
Let me be clear... I am not questioning HIS decision-making or his judgement. If this is what he chose and he is happy, truly happy with it, then good for him. and ultimately, he is the one who has to deal with the consequences (both good and bad ones).

My problem is that I know how the sports and entertainment marketing industry works, and I worry that he was pressured to do this stuff by his agents. Yes, ultimately, Andy himself must sign the dotted line. But that doesn't mean he wasn't heavily enticed/or coerced to do so.

Why couldn't he have done SNL in December? Why does the show have to be ALL access for such a long and important period of time? I don't know but the questions are still there. Maybe the show won't even be able to get a distro deal in which case it's all irrelevant, maybe Andy will win TMC, maybe Andy will have an amazing summer 2004...whooooo knowwwwwwwws

I should probably mention I want to be an entertainment (music, specifically) lawyer so I am very wary of contracts signed with big companies/firms that greatly affect the performer (or in this case, the athlete's) life.

I'm just a cynic... sorry, you'll just have to get used to me :)

Havok
11-05-2003, 03:58 AM
nah its ok, its just you showing concern, but i was just tired of seeing it from everyone, and not one person was happy/proud etc. i know we are all concerned for him, heck i am too, but its not in our hands. and bunk dont worry i wasn't calling you out in particular, in fact i didnt call anybody in particular out.

J. Corwin
11-05-2003, 10:37 AM
Well I am concerned, but I am ALSO very happy for him. And I would love to see him on SNL and other TV gigs.

heya
11-05-2003, 11:26 AM
As fans, we could be both pessimistic and optimistic.
It's better than dealing with his detractors in
other forums.

Deboogle!.
11-07-2003, 03:26 PM
well this is from his site... like we said, it isn't definitely happening anyway

"EXCLUSIVE: Reality TV show "The Tour"
Despite the news, "The Tour is only in developmental stage. Although Andy is interested in doing it, nothing has been finalized as of yet. "

tangerine_dream
11-07-2003, 07:37 PM
The math seems to work out for me:

Saturated media coverage + Added Non-tennis TV Appearances + Modeling and Commercial Contracts = More Andy to See = Very Happy Fans :yippee: = Big TV Ratings = More Money and Better Coverage of Tennis = More Andy to See = Everybody Wins! :bigclap:

Deboogle!.
11-07-2003, 08:59 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! excellent equation.... only problem.... tennis isn't in it

J. Corwin
11-07-2003, 09:57 PM
Good one Tangerine.

andylover_16
11-07-2003, 10:26 PM
i think its brilliant...i dont mind wathcing my favorite tennis player getting dressed, laughing, talking on the phone, fighting....i would greatly enjoy it...would be the 3rd best show on tv with the eception of the OC and MTV 2 videos:clap2:...just my opinion....