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Baghdatis scares me

Bagelicious
01-26-2006, 04:47 PM
I know this thread is a little premature, since Fed/Kiefer hasn't been played yet. If Kiefer goes through :eek: , then I'm all for Marcos taking it to him in the final and winning the whole thing - I've jumped firmly onto his crowded bandwagon.

However, if Roger wins, I'm really nervous for him - I can't help comparing a Fed/Baggy final to Safin/Sampras USO 2000. Two talented 20 year olds reaching the final of a GS against the overwhelming favourite with nothing to lose...

I know Federer doesn't take his opponents lightly, but none of his matches are a foregone conclusion. For what it's worth, with the way he's been pushed in his last two matches, I'm concerned about the SF as well - I really hope he's on form for this one.

Thoughts anyone? Does a Baghdatis/Federer final scare you as well?

Go Roger!

Björki
01-26-2006, 04:49 PM
Baghdatis scares me too :eek:

TenHound
01-26-2006, 06:26 PM
Baggy - Portrait of a Young Champion - @20, long before he's fit enough not to tire after 2-3 sets, his record in 5-setters is 6-0!!

given the deteriorating condition of Roger's feet, and his mental fatigue which he mentioned at end of last yr & was Very Obvious in Davy match, Baggy is a major threat. Like Roger he's a momentum player, so it's a dream final. W/a 50-50% chance of Roger prevailing. But Roger Really wants this - so if his feet permit, he should take it.

don't forget that Baggy will be playing unseeded @IW & Miami as well.... :(

Dirk
01-26-2006, 08:40 PM
Ten where are you getting this info that Roger is having foot problems again?

robinhood
01-26-2006, 09:18 PM
No no no...
Rog will win the AO.
Young guys challenging him is nothing new,
and I am sure SURE that he will be able to handle it this time as well.
He's not that old himself, by the way.

LCeh
01-26-2006, 09:48 PM
I think the match against Kiefer will be really important. Roger needs to play well here to set himself a good tempo going into the final, as well as saving some more energy in case the final goes to 4/5 sets.

lunahielo
01-26-2006, 10:45 PM
Have faith, people~~Have faith! :)
I do.
luna

Fergie
01-26-2006, 10:53 PM
If Rogi plays well he must win! :D

nobama
01-26-2006, 10:54 PM
Ten where are you getting this info that Roger is having foot problems again?There is no info, if there was someone would've posted it here. Some people are just obsessed about his feet. :rolleyes:

PamV
01-26-2006, 11:19 PM
I am always scared about every opponent because I never take anything for granted. I think a lot of people haven't noticed how well Baghdatis plays and the fact that he has an all court game and can volley and drop shot well. The first time I saw him play in 2004 they were saying his game is a lot like Federer's. So yes, I think Baghdatis could be dangerous to Roger. Baghdatis has a higher Ace count in the tournament than Roger. Baghdatis seems not to be a choker and he is able to figure out how to change strategies in the middle of a match if he has too.

PamV
01-26-2006, 11:24 PM
Baggy - Portrait of a Young Champion - @20, long before he's fit enough not to tire after 2-3 sets, his record in 5-setters is 6-0!!

given the deteriorating condition of Roger's feet, and his mental fatigue which he mentioned at end of last yr & was Very Obvious in Davy match, Baggy is a major threat. Like Roger he's a momentum player, so it's a dream final. W/a 50-50% chance of Roger prevailing. But Roger Really wants this - so if his feet permit, he should take it.

don't forget that Baggy will be playing unseeded @IW & Miami as well.... :(

I think Baghadatis is dangerous.....but remember that Roger is 3-0 over him and Roger just beat him in straights in Doha. Granted the conditions in Doha are much more dry and the court is not rebound Ace it's a regular fast hardcourt.

That said, Baghdatis will probably play his heart out because this is his first major and he's had quite a run beating players people expected him to lose to.

Roger's feet are fine now. He looks very fit. Another thing that crosses my mind is that Roger has never been beaten in a Major final. That record could be on his mind and if he does get caught up in thinking about that it could hurt him from playing freely without fear. Now this kind of thing crosses my mind, but I hope Roger as a pro and a true champion Roger is far beyond getting caught up in thinking about records during a match. What ever happens at least Roger isn't gonig to lose any ranking points.

I will be sending him good vibes during the SF and hopefully the Final. Let's hope our worry was for nothing.

Minnie
01-26-2006, 11:33 PM
I'm a bit concerned about the match with Kiefer - he's a difficult customer (in more ways than his tennis!) and Roger will have to up his standard and hang tough if he is to win. And if it is the final everyone is expecting - I just cannot comprehend Roger allowing himself to lose in a Slam final to an unseeded player ... his brain will not compute it!!

PamV
01-26-2006, 11:42 PM
I'm a bit concerned about the match with Kiefer - he's a difficult customer (in more ways than his tennis!) and Roger will have to up his standard and hang tough if he is to win. And if it is the final everyone is expecting - I just cannot comprehend Roger allowing himself to lose in a Slam final to an unseeded player ... his brain will not compute it!!

I am not forgetting about Kiefer either. I think the biggest mistake is to ever take a match for granted.

Minnie
01-27-2006, 12:05 AM
I am not forgetting about Kiefer either. I think the biggest mistake is to ever take a match for granted.

Yes too true and if he can take a set off Roger on grass .... but I do expect Roger to come through. I won't be able to see the match tomorrow (but will be recording it for viewing in the evening) so can only watch the livescores when I get to the office an hour or so later. I will take a deep breath and hope to see Rogi on a smooth path to victory so that I can concentrate on my work!!

makro120
01-27-2006, 12:21 AM
I love Baghdatis ever since I saw followed the documentary eurosport had following him around as a youngster in challengers and not quite getting the good results, but even so always in a good spirit and alot of charisma. He reminds me so much of a 20 year old Guga Kuerten in 97 where he beat all kind of big legends in his way to the final and had that same charismatic personality and always smiling on the court.

I do admit I never thought of BAghdatis as one of the young guys with potential and I am really surprised how he has played these 2 weeks. HE has truly become one of my big favorites.

However, Federer wont do any mistake in the final and I think the fairytale will end this time atleast. Federer 2006 is not Sampras 2000, neither Brugera 97, he still is young, hungry to improve and I think he has his best time ahead of him.

World Beater
01-27-2006, 01:08 AM
actually, there is no reason to be scared...i think many roger fans will become baggy fans because the both play with great flair and style... baggy will force roger to play his best and that can only be good for tennis and his fans.

Skyward
01-27-2006, 02:42 AM
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Don't run in front of the train. Kiefer looks like he's eating cereal for horses for breakfast.

I don't know what's going on with Roger's feet but he did look a bit slow a few times this tournament.

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World Beater
01-27-2006, 03:24 AM
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yanchr
01-27-2006, 06:43 AM
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To the point, I would be more scared and worried if it were Nalbandian in the final.

Baggy played beautiful tennis, somewhat reminded me of Roger's game. Very enjoyable and entertaining style. Got to love it. But I seriously think fatique must've got to him after two consecutive tough 5 setters, even if as young and energetic as he is and he has two days off, and he was exhausted in the 5th set the last match so obviously.

I hope Roger deals with Kiefer today within at most 4 sets to save as much energy as possible going into the final. Given nothing wrong with Roger's physical condition and he doesn't play shit like what he did for some moments in his last two matches, I don't see the title elude him. Plus I just checked their Head to Head. Roger handled him easily just in Doha.

Puschkin
01-27-2006, 06:49 AM
First things first;)

But just to put Bagdatis into perspective. Very rarely, unexpected finalits did win their first GS final. The only one I can recall is Gustavo Kuerten. Marat in 2000 was not unexpected;).

SUKTUEN
01-27-2006, 09:18 AM
Roger will make Baghdatis very scare too~! :devil: :devil:

Rogiman
01-27-2006, 09:24 AM
I'm not scared at all - Baghdatis could make a wonderful champion!

Of course, I would love Roger to win, but if he is to lose - it'd rather be to a real player.

SUKTUEN
01-27-2006, 09:44 AM
I'm not scared at all - Baghdatis could make a wonderful champion!

Of course, I would love Roger to win, but if he is to lose - it'd rather be to a real player.

please don't!! :rolleyes:

GOD PLEASE bless Roger Win~!Please~! :worship: :worship: :worship:

Billabong
01-27-2006, 10:58 AM
First things first;)

But just to put Bagdatis into perspective. Very rarely, unexpected finalits did win their first GS final. The only one I can recall is Gustavo Kuerten. Marat in 2000 was not unexpected;).

Exactly, Marat had already beaten Sampras a few weeks before so he knew he could win;)!

GOOOOOOO FEDDDDDDD:bounce:!!!!!!

avocadoe
01-27-2006, 11:20 AM
I think Roger will win in 4 or 5 sets. Marcos will give his all but it won't be enough. Roger will find his first serve and win some easy points. It might be a great match. I agree that some Federer fans will also like Marcos, I do, but I will always root for Roger.

GOOD LUCK ROGER IN THE FINAL
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yanchr
01-27-2006, 11:31 AM
First things first;)

But just to put Bagdatis into perspective. Very rarely, unexpected finalits did win their first GS final. The only one I can recall is Gustavo Kuerten. Marat in 2000 was not unexpected;).
Now first thing done :D And I'm even less scared :p

Puschkin
01-27-2006, 11:40 AM
Now first thing done :D And I'm even less scared :p

I have never been scared and I won't be :p .

PamV
01-27-2006, 11:47 AM
actually, there is no reason to be scared...i think many roger fans will become baggy fans because the both play with great flair and style... baggy will force roger to play his best and that can only be good for tennis and his fans.

I am a Baggy fan, but I prefer Roger and want Roger to win. I wish Baggy all the success in other tournaments where Roger is NOT playing. The scary part is whether Roger will be in high gear or have trouble getting things to work.

TenHound
01-27-2006, 06:17 PM
Agreed Pam - where Roger isn't playing....

No reason to worry about the final - just hope both at their best. We aren't just watching Roger - we're watching Roger play in front of Rod Laver. That Is Very Special, as he demonstrated in his semi v. SourKraut.

TenHound
01-27-2006, 06:20 PM
Forgot to add the obvious - Rod Laver will be Handing out the Trophy.

(P.S. Baggy didn't have 2 days off - he had ~4 hrs. less than 3 days. Roger has 2 days off.)

ExpectedWinner
01-27-2006, 07:03 PM
I like them both, but it's Roger's time to pick up GS titles, so I'll root for him. Hopefullly he'll show the kid that his trip to Disney Land is over(his time will come).

Federer did not play his best with Kiefer but at least he did not look tired and slow (that was a concern for me after Davydenko's match). However, he should stop hoping that his opponents are tired. Sometimes he keeps the ball in play without any purpose and gets punished for that. Also, he has to remember that Baghdatis (like many othrer youngsters+Safin) has a tendency to throw sets away (if things don't go their way) and rest for the next set.

Dirk
01-27-2006, 07:42 PM
Roger was mixing up the pace on Kiefer to help him win the points. Roger learned something from going for winners too early in his last match which cause him some errors. Roger will play smart and clean versus Baggy.

Dirk
01-27-2006, 07:43 PM
I'm not scared at all - Baghdatis could make a wonderful champion!

Of course, I would love Roger to win, but if he is to lose - it'd rather be to a real player.

RIGHT ON!!! Baggy is a lovable character and his game just reeks champion.

TenHound
01-28-2006, 06:08 AM
Gotta 2nd Rogiman. When Roger is ready to hand over his #1 ranking, I hope it's to Baggy.

After reading Dirk's perfect comment about Baggy being "a lovable character", I realized what character he reminds me of - a Hobbit. Is he Bilbo Baggins, or just Hobbit, or Baggy?

SUKTUEN
01-28-2006, 06:21 AM
I think Roger has a very perfect perpare of the Final~!

GO Roger~!! GOD BLESS YOU~! :hug: :hug: