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Roger Federer just hit shot of the tournament.

stebs
01-21-2006, 11:25 AM
Did anyone else see that shot by Fed? It was 0-30 on Mirnyi's serve at 3-3 in the second set. Max served a good wide serve and came into the net. He played a good deep volley which looked like winning the point. Fed somehow caught up to it but by that time it was almost behind him. He somehow got his racket behind it and hit a one handed backhand from behind the baseline on the run down the line for a winner. The best single shot I've seen in a very long time if not ever. Absolutely incredible.

almouchie
01-21-2006, 11:28 AM
yeah i did
its was good but not the shot of the tournament
did u see Nalby shot at the net against JArrko in the third set
now that was amasnig hit with the forehand turned behind his back
Miryni isnt able to trouble Federer on his serve
too bad

stebs
01-21-2006, 11:31 AM
yeah i did
its was good but not the shot of the tournament
did u see Nalby shot at the net against JArrko in the third set
now that was amasnig hit with the forehand turned behind his back
Miryni isnt able to trouble Federer on his serve
too bad

I did see the shot by Nalbandian. I think Rogers shot is far far more difficult to pull off and I don't think another player in the world would of been able to hit that shot whereas I think although David's shot was brilliant it wasn't as difficult or as wonderful.

I guess we may have to agree to disagree but for me i think that might be the best passing shot I've ever seen by any player.

Viken01
01-21-2006, 11:35 AM
i'd like to see fed's shot, 'cause there is no coverage of his match on eurosport

bokehlicious
01-21-2006, 11:52 AM
Yes it was for sure the shot of the tourney !!!! Awesome !!!

ReturnWinner
01-21-2006, 01:30 PM
no way that shot was better than nalbandian´s under the back volley winner and under the legs volley winner.


boreder never makes awesome and magician shots

lau
01-21-2006, 01:31 PM
no way that shot was better than nalbandian´s under the back volley winner and under the legs volley winner.


boreder never makes awesome and magician shots
:lol: You´ll start a war :p

bokehlicious
01-21-2006, 01:34 PM
no way that shot was better than nalbandian´s under the back volley winner and under the legs volley winner.


boreder never makes awesome and magician shots

Fat ass never makes awesome and magician shots

ReturnWinner
01-21-2006, 01:35 PM
exactly mate mirka never makes awesome and magician shots
Fat ass never makes awesome and magician shots

sigmagirl91
01-21-2006, 01:35 PM
I did see the shot by Nalbandian. I think Rogers shot is far far more difficult to pull off and I don't think another player in the world would of been able to hit that shot whereas I think although David's shot was brilliant it wasn't as difficult or as wonderful.

I guess we may have to agree to disagree but for me i think that might be the best passing shot I've ever seen by any player.

I like Roger and everything (in fact, he and David are my absolute faves), but he's hit one-handed backhand passing shots time after time from any position. However, you don't see someone hit a tweener or a behind-the-back volley all the time. Roger's shot may make the top ten, but those two by David are #2 (the behind-the back) and #1 (the tweener).

bokehlicious
01-21-2006, 01:39 PM
exactly mate mirka never makes awesome and magician shots

Who's Mirka ? Sorry I don't care about non on-court stuff :o

Hola Mr. SK
01-21-2006, 01:57 PM
I can smell bad reps flying...

Sjengster
01-21-2006, 02:04 PM
boreder never makes awesome and magician shots

I really don't care who has hit the best shot of the tournament (and I haven't seen Nalbandian's yet), but that is an incredibly stupid observation. Have you missed every one of Boreder's matches in the last three years?

mandoura
01-21-2006, 02:13 PM
I did see the shot by Nalbandian. I think Rogers shot is far far more difficult to pull off and I don't think another player in the world would of been able to hit that shot whereas I think although David's shot was brilliant it wasn't as difficult or as wonderful.

I guess we may have to agree to disagree but for me i think that might be the best passing shot I've ever seen by any player.

I am completely with you on this stebs, specially the last sentence. I loved the way he reacted after the shot too. I love him when he's on fire. :)

With all due respect to Nalby's shot, yeah, it was good but Santoro hit an almost identical shot against Roger in the USO.

The rally between Fabricio & Gaudio with 2 between-the-legs shots is far better than Nalby's shot.

PaulieM
01-21-2006, 02:21 PM
I am completely with you on this stebs, specially the last sentence. I loved the way he reacted after the shot too. I love him when he's on fire. :)

With all due respect to Nalby's shot, yeah, it was good but Santoro hit an almost identical shot against Roger in the USO.

The rally between Fabricio & Gaudio with 2 between-the-legs shots is far better than Nalby's shot.
agreed on all points. :)

stebs
01-21-2006, 03:44 PM
I like Roger and everything (in fact, he and David are my absolute faves), but he's hit one-handed backhand passing shots time after time from any position

I don;t believe you even saw the point after this comment. It is perfectly okay to disagree with my comment as which shot you think is better is all opinion. However if this is what you think your opinion is wrong. That shot wasn't a run of the mill backhand pass. If you saw the shot you would not say he hits them all the time. I don't think he has ever hit a backhand pass quite as great as that in his career.

Peta Pan
01-21-2006, 04:01 PM
When I saw the shot I thought Wowsers :eek: and I even screamed out at what a shot it was (which is big for me not being a Fed fan), but it was no way the best shot I've seen.

I was more impressed with the Gaudio/Santoro point and rally and I haven't seen the Nalbandian point so I can't comment on that.

stebs
01-21-2006, 04:18 PM
I was more impressed with the Gaudio/Santoro point.

Definately. That point was miles better than any other so far this year in my opinion but none of the shots in that rally were as good as Federers shot. The point of Gaudio/Santoro was highly enjoyable and a great sight to see but I fail to see which shot you are implying was better than Federer's. The finishing shot by Gaston was a good one for sure but nothing superb.

Generator
01-21-2006, 04:24 PM
exactly mate mirka never makes awesome and magician shots

Ha!

prima donna
01-21-2006, 04:30 PM
David Nalbandian is obviously a superior creator of unique shots and has all the finesse, zest and charisma that you look for in a true champion. He has proven this time and time again, quite evidently, Roger takes a backseat to the 6-time Argentine GS champion, a great spectacle to watch, indeed.

Millions have anointed Nalbandian possibly the greatest ever, it is Roger's defense and contra-tennis that has received no spotlight. Nalbandian clearly plays the most beautiful game of tennis or is it art ? The great Argentine comes up with something new each match.

It's obvious that David is not only the favorite for this GS, but the next and even the next after that; clearly Roger would have to defy all odds to achieve a feat as grand as outdoing Nalbandian in the shot making department.

Nalbandian is also a poster boy for physical fitness, possessing not a single flaw and at a lean 5% body fat, the epitome of what every tennis player should strive to be.

bokehlicious
01-21-2006, 04:42 PM
David Nalbandian is obviously a superior creator of unique shots and has all the finesse, zest and charisma that you look for in a true champion. He has proven this time and time again, quite evidently, Roger takes a backseat to the 6-time Argentine GS champion, a great spectacle to watch, indeed.

Millions have anointed Nalbandian possibly the greatest ever, it is Roger's defense and contra-tennis that has received no spotlight. Nalbandian clearly plays the most beautiful game of tennis or is it art ? The great Argentine comes up with something new each match.

It's obvious that David is not only the favorite for this GS, but the next and even the next after that; clearly Roger would have to defy all odds to achieve a feat as grand as outdoing Nalbandian in the shot making department.

Nalbandian is also a poster boy for physical fitness, possessing not a single flaw and at a lean 5% body fat, the epitome of what every tennis player should strive to be.

So good ;-)

Fergie
01-21-2006, 06:44 PM
David Nalbandian is obviously a superior creator of unique shots and has all the finesse, zest and charisma that you look for in a true champion. He has proven this time and time again, quite evidently, Roger takes a backseat to the 6-time Argentine GS champion, a great spectacle to watch, indeed.

Millions have anointed Nalbandian possibly the greatest ever, it is Roger's defense and contra-tennis that has received no spotlight. Nalbandian clearly plays the most beautiful game of tennis or is it art ? The great Argentine comes up with something new each match.

It's obvious that David is not only the favorite for this GS, but the next and even the next after that; clearly Roger would have to defy all odds to achieve a feat as grand as outdoing Nalbandian in the shot making department.

Nalbandian is also a poster boy for physical fitness, possessing not a single flaw and at a lean 5% body fat, the epitome of what every tennis player should strive to be.
Good one! :worship:

World Beater
01-21-2006, 06:50 PM
I don;t believe you even saw the point after this comment. It is perfectly okay to disagree with my comment as which shot you think is better is all opinion. However if this is what you think your opinion is wrong. That shot wasn't a run of the mill backhand pass. If you saw the shot you would not say he hits them all the time. I don't think he has ever hit a backhand pass quite as great as that in his career.



no. you havent seen many roger matches if you think that way. that was a good shot, but i have seen roger hit more unbelievable shots.

for example,

there is a video in the federer forum of his match against roddick in basel many years ago. Roddick hit a volley putaway and fed smashed it for a winner.

federer played mirnyi in vienna and hit a bh crosscourt reflex pass on the dead run in 2004(or 2003?).

federer played roddick in tms canada(2004) and hit some great bh passes, better than what he has done this tournament, and hit three consecutive aces to deny roddick from 0-40 down.

federer playing henman in in indian wells. 2004. few great bh passes.

so, there are more but i am too lazy to list all of them.

this shot was not his best ever. not even close in fact

bokehlicious
01-21-2006, 06:54 PM
there is a video in the federer forum of his match against roddick in basel many years ago. Roddick hit a volley putaway and fed smashed it for a winner.

Truly amazing one :eek: Roddick came right after to Roger a little depity :o :)

World Beater
01-21-2006, 06:59 PM
I don;t believe you even saw the point after this comment. It is perfectly okay to disagree with my comment as which shot you think is better is all opinion. However if this is what you think your opinion is wrong. That shot wasn't a run of the mill backhand pass. If you saw the shot you would not say he hits them all the time. I don't think he has ever hit a backhand pass quite as great as that in his career.

just for you.

http://media.putfile.com/Federer-RoddickBasel2002

if it doesnt work..
try this instead...


Amazing shot that only Fed could pull off, poor Roddick!
http://x1002.putfile.com/videos/d7-32903292750.avi

sigmagirl91
01-21-2006, 07:34 PM
I don;t believe you even saw the point after this comment. It is perfectly okay to disagree with my comment as which shot you think is better is all opinion. However if this is what you think your opinion is wrong. That shot wasn't a run of the mill backhand pass. If you saw the shot you would not say he hits them all the time. I don't think he has ever hit a backhand pass quite as great as that in his career.

I don't need to see it to know that it was rather run-of-the-mill. And your description didn't lend any more credibility to the shot than my not seeing it.

World Beater
01-21-2006, 07:44 PM
I don't need to see it to know that it was rather run-of-the-mill. And your description didn't lend any more credibility to the shot than my not seeing it.

it was a run of the mill shot for fed, but not for anyone else. :)

1sun
01-21-2006, 07:51 PM
I don't need to see it to know that it was rather run-of-the-mill. And your description didn't lend any more credibility to the shot than my not seeing it.
you didnt even see it but are sayin it was just a backhand pass and that nabs shot was better. how in a milllion years you can make that judgement without seeing the shot is beyond me.

BlackSilver
01-21-2006, 07:58 PM
Personally, I find Nalbandian's one more artistic, beautiful and impressive

stebs
01-21-2006, 08:01 PM
no. you havent seen many roger matches if you think that way. that was a good shot, but i have seen roger hit more unbelievable shots.

for example,

there is a video in the federer forum of his match against roddick in basel many years ago. Roddick hit a volley putaway and fed smashed it for a winner.

federer played mirnyi in vienna and hit a bh crosscourt reflex pass on the dead run in 2004(or 2003?).

federer played roddick in tms canada(2004) and hit some great bh passes, better than what he has done this tournament, and hit three consecutive aces to deny roddick from 0-40 down.

federer playing henman in in indian wells. 2004. few great bh passes.

so, there are more but i am too lazy to list all of them.

this shot was not his best ever. not even close in fact

Yes I've seen it now, thanks alot for the video. I do admit I went a little over the top, I have seen better shots than that (though I stand by saying thats the best shot of this tourny so far). However I still disagree with saying that was nothing special. I still think that shot Federer played was absolutely incredible and I don't think he will hit more than maybe 2 or 3 better passing shots than that this year. For me that shot was brilliant even if i did make it out to be better than it was. I still don't believe you can say that was run of the mill but we'll have to agree to disagree I guess.

sigmagirl91
01-21-2006, 08:05 PM
you didnt even see it but are sayin it was just a backhand pass and that nabs shot was better. how in a milllion years you can make that judgement without seeing the shot is beyond me.

Again, I don't NEED to see the shot to know that I've seen it before.

Fedex
01-21-2006, 08:05 PM
I really don't care who has hit the best shot of the tournament (and I haven't seen Nalbandian's yet), but that is an incredibly stupid observation. Have you missed every one of Boreder's matches in the last three years?
:lol:

Fedex
01-21-2006, 08:06 PM
It was an incredible shot, but I have come to expect these sort of things from Federer.

stebs
01-21-2006, 08:11 PM
Again, I don't NEED to see the shot to know that I've seen it before.

If you want to make an accurate judgement on the shot you DO need to see it. Otherwise say what you like but no-one will think your opinion is relevant as it isn't.

stebs
01-21-2006, 08:12 PM
It was an incredible shot, but I have come to expect these sort of things from Federer.

It's more fun, I think, If you don't expect brilliant things. Then when they come it is great rather than just fulfilling expectations

sigmagirl91
01-21-2006, 08:16 PM
If you want to make an accurate judgement on the shot you DO need to see it. Otherwise say what you like but no-one will think your opinion is relevant as it isn't.

Apparently, you even overestimated this shot-as your last post indicated. I've seen a lot of Roger shots more worthy of applause than the one you described, so it was run of the mill and ordinary.

PaulieM
01-21-2006, 08:21 PM
I don't need to see it to know that it was rather run-of-the-mill. And your description didn't lend any more credibility to the shot than my not seeing it.
of course you don't need to see something to make a judgement when you've already made up your up your mind about what the judgement will be in advance. it's called coming to a situation with a closed mind. :shrug:

stebs
01-21-2006, 08:22 PM
Apparently, you even overestimated this shot-as your last post indicated. I've seen a lot of Roger shots more worthy of applause than the one you described, so it was run of the mill and ordinary.

How can you say that? you haven't even seen it. Yes I do admit I over estimated this shot by saying it was the best pass Roger has hit. That was an over estimation but how many times do i need to say it WAS NOT run of the mill. Roger will probably hit a pass that good on his backhand side maybe once more this year. I don't call that run of the mill.

BlackSilver
01-21-2006, 08:23 PM
I don't think he will hit more than maybe 2 or 3 better passing shots than that this year.

I totally agree with that

sigmagirl91
01-21-2006, 08:25 PM
Yes I do admit I over estimated this shot by saying it was the best pass Roger has hit. That was an over estimation but how many times do i need to say it WAS NOT run of the mill.

Say it again so I can tell you that it is.

World Beater
01-21-2006, 08:25 PM
does anyone else think that roger is becoming a little less spectacular with his shot selection. but becoming smarter and more solid.

federer seems to play the percentages more and more, and will only come up with great stuff if forced into uncomfortable positions.

some of his most spectacular matches and shots actually come from his much older matches when he was not #1.

for me his best two matches were against santoro at ao 2005, and his match against safin in hamburg final(clay) quite a few years ago.

sigmagirl91
01-21-2006, 08:26 PM
does anyone else think that roger is becoming a little less spectacular with his shot selection. but becoming smarter and more solid.

federer seems to play the percentages more and more, and will only come up with great stuff if forced into uncomfortable positions.

some of his most spectacular matches and shots actually come from his much older matches when he was not #1.

for me his best two matches were against santoro at ao 2005, and his match against safin in hamburg final(clay) quite a few years ago.

I can agree with that....which is why I said that this latest shot he made was rather run of the mill.

BlackSilver
01-21-2006, 08:38 PM
does anyone else think that roger is becoming a little less spectacular with his shot selection. but becoming smarter and more solid.


I risk to say that this started in the initial part of 2004 and evolved slowly since them

stebs
01-21-2006, 08:40 PM
does anyone else think that roger is becoming a little less spectacular with his shot selection. but becoming smarter and more solid.

federer seems to play the percentages more and more, and will only come up with great stuff if forced into uncomfortable positions.

some of his most spectacular matches and shots actually come from his much older matches when he was not #1.

for me his best two matches were against santoro at ao 2005, and his match against safin in hamburg final(clay) quite a few years ago.

Yes definately. The thing is it has now become much more rare for Federer to find himself in a position in a point where he needs to hit one of these wondershots.

musefanatic
01-21-2006, 08:46 PM
That shot was amazing, i was lucky enough to see it when bbc were showing the match on grandstand and i was just gobsmacked! Genius! :)

stebs
01-21-2006, 08:48 PM
That shot was amazing, i was lucky enough to see it when bbc were showing the match on grandstand and i was just gobsmacked! Genius! :)

Glad to see not everyone is foolish enough to think the shot was 'run of the mill' when they didn't even see it. :rolleyes:

ReturnWinner
01-21-2006, 09:13 PM
as well as u do not like players like corria, massu,hewitt,chela ,ferrer or canas (whereas I do), I do not like federer

it is just my opinion

I really don't care who has hit the best shot of the tournament (and I haven't seen Nalbandian's yet), but that is an incredibly stupid observation. Have you missed every one of Boreder's matches in the last three years?

PaulieM
01-21-2006, 09:15 PM
as well as u do not like players like corria, massu,hewitt,chela ,ferrer or canas (whereas I do), I do not like federer

it is just my opinion
just because you don't like someone, doesn't mean they've never hit an amazing shot. sorry to say it but if you can't separate your dislike for someone, from your evaluation of their abilities then you're using the reasoning of child.

Sjengster
01-21-2006, 09:20 PM
Precisely. Like and dislike has nothing to do with tennis ability, and Boreder's supposed lack of such is what I was questioning. And for the record, I don't mind Chela and Canas at least.... although I will admit, the other four are never going to find a high place in my affections.

ReturnWinner
01-21-2006, 09:28 PM
i just said federer does not hit wonderful shots such as under the legs shots like gaudio or nalbandian, nice half volleys like santoro, under the back shots such like . according to all journalists and federers fans he is the best talented player ever, nobody is like him, everyobody is several notches below him, he has all shots, blah blah blah
he is perfect , he is god
it is ok he is the best no question about that but there are many players talented with great shots.

i always read on mtf coria is shit ,the only thing he does is running and getting back balls and stuff, gaudio just have a backhand and he is pathetic he neves tries ,roddick isjust a serve, haas the worst number 2 h,nalbandian def federer in the masters coz feder was injured, and all that stuff with many players



just because you don't like someone, doesn't mean they've never hit an amazing shot. sorry to say it but if you can't separate your dislike for someone, from your evaluation of their abilities then you're using the reasoning of child.

World Beater
01-21-2006, 09:32 PM
actually federer has hit under the leg shots, albeit much earlier in his career.

and federer continues to hit great half volleys

besides under the leg shots many players can do. there are certain things roger can do, but others cant which is why many revere him

PamV
01-21-2006, 09:33 PM
I saw the shot, but I don't think ESPN got the best camera angle. I don't think they showed it effectively.

I am just glad Roger is playing so well. He seemed to run for a lot of shots that he really didn't have to. I get nervous he will hurt himself again. Luckily that didn't happen and all is well.

Go Roger! Beat Haas in staights!!! :worship: :worship: :worship:

PaulieM
01-21-2006, 09:33 PM
i just said federer does not hit wonderful shots such as under the legs shots like gaudio or nalbandian, nice half volleys like santoro, under the back shots such like . according to all journalists and federers fans he is the best talented player ever, nobody is like him, everyobody is several notches below him, he has all shots, blah blah blah
he is perfect , he is god
it is ok he is the best no question about that but there are many players talented with great shots.

i always read on mtf coria is shit ,the only thing he does is running and getting back balls and stuff, gaudio just have a backhand and he is pathetic he neves tries ,roddick isjust a serve, haas the worst number 2 h,nalbandian def federer in the masters coz feder was injured, and all that stuff with many players
so your real issue is that other players don't get enough credit for the great shots they play? that may very well be true, but it's still a lie to say roger NEVER hits amazing shots, like other guys, which is what your original post said. sorry. i happen to think there are plenty of players that hit amazing shots and have no problem giving credit where it's due.:shrug:

boreder never makes awesome and magician shots

Sjengster
01-21-2006, 09:37 PM
i just said federer does not hit wonderful shots such as under the legs shots like gaudio or nalbandian, nice half volleys like santoro, under the back shots such like . according to all journalists and federers fans he is the best talented player ever, nobody is like him, everyobody is several notches below him, he has all shots, blah blah blah
he is perfect , he is god
it is ok he is the best no question about that but there are many players talented with great shots.

i always read on mtf coria is shit ,the only thing he does is running and getting back balls and stuff, gaudio just have a backhand and he is pathetic he neves tries ,roddick isjust a serve, haas the worst number 2 h,nalbandian def federer in the masters coz feder was injured, and all that stuff with many players

People have a tendency to jump on the bandwagon of a dominant player and overlook the subtleties and nuances of his competitors. For the record, Gaudio and Nalbandian are both in my Top 5 of players, and I think Coria has some of the best touch on the tour. Still, no need to say that Federer never makes magician shots (the definition of which can be a little hazy) to prove your point.

ReturnWinner
01-21-2006, 09:45 PM
my main problem is I just got tired of the ass licking over federer by the press and by his fans

bokehlicious
01-21-2006, 09:48 PM
my main problem is I just got tired of the ass licking over federer by the press and by his fans

I don't understand either as he really doesn't deserve it, with his crap tennis :shrug: :scratch: :zzz:

World Beater
01-21-2006, 09:48 PM
my main problem is I just got tired of the ass licking over federer by the press and by his fans

dont worry...i am sure coria gets his ass licked enough :devil:

or maybe he's the one doing it :tape:

ReturnWinner
01-21-2006, 09:50 PM
another moron fan of federer haha
yes carla gets his ass licked by carla
i do not want imagine who licks ur ass

dont worry...i am sure coria gets his ass licked enough :devil:

or maybe he's the one doing it :tape:

Sjengster
01-21-2006, 09:53 PM
my main problem is I just got tired of the ass licking over federer by the press and by his fans

Think yourself lucky you don't have the commentators I do.... appalling, I agree, and simply laziness on the part of many of them.

World Beater
01-21-2006, 09:54 PM
another moron fan of federer haha
yes carla gets his ass licked by carla
i do want imagine who licks ur ass

:haha:

i actually like coria's game on clay...but man you are too serious...you have to lighten up

:wavey:

carla is flexible :devil:

Silawen
01-21-2006, 11:03 PM
Come on, guys, can't you discuss something in an adult way without insulting various players in the process?

I've seen most of the shots mentioned, minus the Santoro/Gaudio one, but am severely biased seeing as I prefer David over Roger. Thus I am not going to comment on which was the best shot, nor shot of the tournament (which is bull, seeing as the tournament has not ended yet and Federer/Nalbandian/whoever does it could produce an even better shot). I can say which I found the more amusing, the behind the back volley from David, simply because it's rarely seen.

It does annoy me extremely that people here find it nescessary to be insulting towards players for the heck of it and to get others riled up. And that goes for those harping on Roger as well as David. So childish.

Federerthebest
01-21-2006, 11:35 PM
nalbandian's shot was just a gimmick between-the-legs shot and was successful because of luck, not 'skill'. federer's backhand pass was much better (he hit a similar one in his win against sampras in wimby 2001).

Federerthebest
01-21-2006, 11:36 PM
Again, I don't NEED to see the shot to know that I've seen it before.

what a genius statement. i see why you are so famed for your intellect :worship:

pinky
01-22-2006, 12:29 AM
Federer = shot of the tournament
Santoro-Gaudio = point of the tournament
Nalbandian = erm... move of the tournament

Everyone's happy now? ;)

stebs
01-22-2006, 03:01 PM
Federer = shot of the tournament
Santoro-Gaudio = point of the tournament
Nalbandian = erm... move of the tournament

Everyone's happy now? ;)

:worship: :worship: You're a genius

Viken01
01-22-2006, 03:17 PM
i'd like to get the video of fed and nalby's shot if it is possible ;)

ReturnWinner
01-28-2006, 03:55 PM
I mean he does not make awesome shots like under the legs shots or under the back shot or so like gaudio,nalbandian and santoro does

the so called player who has every shot in the book
, biggest artist in the game

funny that his two biggest weapons are the big serve and big forehand

I really don't care who has hit the best shot of the tournament (and I haven't seen Nalbandian's yet), but that is an incredibly stupid observation. Have you missed every one of Boreder's matches in the last three years?

bokehlicious
01-28-2006, 03:59 PM
funny that his two biggest weapons are the big serve and big forehand

:haha:

stebs
01-28-2006, 04:23 PM
the so called player who has every shot in the book
, biggest artist in the game

funny that his two biggest weapons are the big serve and big forehand

Not that you're in the least bit correct about those two weapons but even if you were it makes no difference. The fcat that Federers forehand is his best shot doesn't men his other shots are crap. He does have every shot in the book.

ReturnWinner
01-28-2006, 04:26 PM
who said serve and forehand are his only good shots ? :retard:
Not that you're in the least bit correct about those two weapons but even if you were it makes no difference. The fcat that Federers forehand is his best shot doesn't men his other shots are crap. He does have every shot in the book.

bokehlicious
01-28-2006, 04:29 PM
I mean he does not make awesome shots like under the legs shots or under the back shot or so like gaudio,nalbandian and santoro does

Those kind of shots are good for circus exhibitions not to win a tennis match :)

Mechlan
01-28-2006, 04:34 PM
Does anyone else miss the Federer heavily topspinned, very very short ball that dies off in the middle of the court? Haven't seen that in ages...

rofe
01-28-2006, 05:25 PM
Does anyone else miss the Federer heavily topspinned, very very short ball that dies off in the middle of the court? Haven't seen that in ages...

I think he hasn't used it because the ball sits up on this court after bouncing even when sliced so his opponent can potentially easily put it away.

LCeh
01-28-2006, 05:29 PM
I think he hasn't used it because the ball sits up on this court after bouncing even when sliced so his opponent can potentially easily put it away.

Actually, I believe the last time I have seen him hit that shot was on this very court, against Lleyton Hewitt in AO 04, that's when I saw him hit that shot twice, and I don't think I have seen him hit it ever since.

World Beater
01-28-2006, 06:17 PM
Actually, I believe the last time I have seen him hit that shot was on this very court, against Lleyton Hewitt in AO 04, that's when I saw him hit that shot twice, and I don't think I have seen him hit it ever since.

well he hit a short angle topspin fh for a winner against haas...that was something...it was like literally from nowhere.

the shot he hit against mirnyi was very similar to a shit he hit against roddick at wimbledon last year when roddick was at net.

rofe
01-28-2006, 06:18 PM
Actually, I believe the last time I have seen him hit that shot was on this very court, against Lleyton Hewitt in AO 04, that's when I saw him hit that shot twice, and I don't think I have seen him hit it ever since.

Well, Hewitt has problems generating his own pace so sliced shots in particular are a good tactic against him.

LCeh
01-28-2006, 06:20 PM
well he hit a short angle topspin fh for a winner against haas...that was something...it was like literally from nowhere.

the shot he hit against mirnyi was very similar to a shit he hit against roddick at wimbledon last year when roddick was at net.

I think we are talking about a different shot here. The one I am talking about is when he gets a short reply and he hits the short forehand that lands well inside the service line. The ones you are talking about is when Roger is at the baseline perhaps?

World Beater
01-28-2006, 06:26 PM
I mean he does not make awesome shots like under the legs shots or under the back shot or so like gaudio,nalbandian and santoro does
the so called player who has every shot in the book
, biggest artist in the game

funny that his two biggest weapons are the big serve and big forehand

he does hit those, or do you go into hibernation every time federer plays?

also, i have seen A LOT of players hit these shots. they are not that tough to execute. the shots are not that effective.

players who have hit this shot:

agassi
roddick
ferrero
federer

and...challenger level players.

it doesnt take that much skill to hit these shots.

federer is not a fool like gaudio to hit these shots in crucial situations.

nalbandian rarely if ever hits these shots...once a match, every 20 matches?for me he doesnt do anything spectacular.

artistry is about point construction, not about spectacular shots...federer can win pts in many ways.

gaudio : usually only backhand
nalbandian: backhand down the line.
santoro : he is a true artist...he can actualy volley unlike the previous two.

World Beater
01-28-2006, 06:28 PM
I think we are talking about a different shot here. The one I am talking about is when he gets a short reply and he hits the short forehand that lands well inside the service line. The ones you are talking about is when Roger is at the baseline perhaps?

ah .ic.

both good shots, though :D

Cervantes
01-28-2006, 06:45 PM
Any chance someone could upload Federer's shot against Mirnyi? I haven't seen it yet and it would be really great if someone could post a link to it.

stebs
01-28-2006, 07:46 PM
who said serve and forehand are his only good shots ? :retard:

No need to insult me.
You implied it by saying "the so called player who has every shot in the book" implying that he does not have every sot in the book and then saying his biggest weapons are a serve and forehand implying these are the shots he does have. If I misread you which can easily be done on forums as it is impossible to judge tone I am sorry. What was it you meant to say??