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Velvetcat
01-20-2006, 07:22 PM
... and other player gossip from a different perspective:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/tennisfeatures/cynthia-lums-snaphappy-tennis-life/2006/01/20/1137734148986.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

Cynthia Lum's snap-happy tennis life

January 21, 2006

Cynthia Lum mingles with the world's top male tennis stars - and it's all just part of the job, writes Chris Johnston.

Photographer Cynthia Lum is the eyes of men's tennis. And those eyes have seen a lot.

Lum, from Los Angeles, has been on the circuit for 12 years. She's such a fixture - the US, French, and Australian opens, all the big ones - that she is on first-name terms with many top players. She often stays in the same hotels and goes to the same restaurants, bars, clubs and functions. She's the kind of person who will give a disc of pictures to a player after they have had a good win.

"My attitude is 'we're all in this together'," Lum says. "The guy picking up the towels in the locker room is as important as Lleyton Hewitt. I treat the players like normal human beings and they respect that, they like it.

"We're all pretty friendly. Have dinner, have drinks, have a party, you know?"

Given the clamour surrounding top male players at the Australian Open this week - "where did he eat?", "where did he drink", "is he really going out with her", "did you see him with his shirt off?" - Lum's access would be the envy of many. She is quick to stress that she is a sports photographer, but she is also a woman who likes men.

"Frankly, my mother didn't raise stupid children. Why would I want to be on the women's tour? The men are a lot more profitable, the guys are more interesting, the tennis is better, it's more fun. And they're guys. What's wrong with hanging out with cute young guys? They're amazing."

Lum loves tennis. She loves photographing it. It's a subtle sport; it's all about the tiny nuances. Grand gestures and the spectacular are hard to find. She likes this about it. But she also likes the backdrop to an event like the Australian Open.

"Tennis is the only sport where there's one or two-week events," Lum says. "You get to know people, you make friends. There's a dinner this night and a party that night; people meet new people, there's new romances and broken romances. It's all going on behind the tennis. It builds and builds and then, bang!, it's over, and they're taking the site down while you're shooting the last pictures.

"It has a drama all of it's own. It's like a mini-series, a soap opera."

The big gossip this year is that men's No. 2 Andy Roddick is on with Russian Maria Sharapova, women's No.4 seed. "That would surprise me," Lum says. "He likes starlet-type girls, but he wouldn't like a girl that overshadows him."

She met Roddick when he was 19. "I thought to myself, 'this kid has great potential as a player and also as a brat'. He was supposed to be the next Pete Sampras, he's had a lot of pressure put on him, and kids like that have brat potential. He has a temper, but he's a good kid. He's a funny kid. He does funny things. Once he had his people buy him a bed from the W Hotel in Los Angeles for his house in Florida, just because he liked the bed."

No. 1 seed Roger Federer is the polar opposite, she says. He is quiet and does not party. He is under his girlfriend's thumb. He never goes out at night. "Although once I did see him at the Xiang Yang market in Shanghai where they sell only fakes - fake Rolex watches, fake Chanel sunglasses."

Hewitt? Well, she likes his eyes. "They're huge," she says, "and blue, and they pop out when he's running for a shot." Off court, though, "you won't see him, he never goes out. He was always a pain in the neck, but he's mellowed. He's not nasty, just a pain."

The Latin guys, though, the Spanish and South Americans . . . "oh my God, they are so much fun".

"Go to a tournament in Argentina or Brazil and everyone's out every night dancing and partying," Lum says. "Gaston Gaudio, I like him, he likes to party, believe me. In Shanghai once, at this big nightclub, all these Chinese girls were hitting on him. But he's like 'oh, they're not really my type'. He likes the tall blondes. He's a real good dancer, Gaston."

But Argentinian David Nalbandian, who is not a favourite of Australian crowds, has won a prize for being "unco-operative and sour".

"I've never had a problem with him personally, but in Paris the press have the annual Lemon Award for the French Open's annual pain in the neck. He won it last year."

As someone who deals in the detail of the sport, Lum notices things others do not. Guillermo Coria, for example, does amazing tricks with his racquet. "He flips it and bounces the ball on the edge of it between sets or when he's changing ends. He's very dexterous; he's like a juggler, a magician."

His wife, Lum says, who is "stunning", has the "teensiest, tiniest little outfits. He looks like a little kid next to her."

Roddick is on edge, "like a racehorse". He constantly fidgets with his hat and jiggles a blue rubber bracelet on his right wrist.

And Federer is difficult to photograph in Australia because he has very dark eyes and the angle of the sun here often makes it look like like he has no eyes at all. Which is not what a tennis photographer wants from the best tennis player in the world. Plus, she says, his play is so smooth, so polished. There's no rough edges to it. There is nothing that happens out of the blue.

Unfortunately for Lum, like eyes, those are the things that make good pictures.

"But he'll probably win,"she says.

APRES TENNIS
WHAT THE STARS GET UP TO

ROGER FEDERER
"He’s got his girlfriend and he’s under her thumb. She controls him."

ANDY RODDICK
"I shouldn’t say this but he’s a party boy. He’ll be at the casino playing craps and roulette. He’ll be hanging out in clubs — he went to a party at The Loft this week.’’

LLEYTON HEWITT
"He was always a pain in the neck, but he’s mellowed.’’

DAVID NALBANDIAN
"Unco-operative and sour."

NIKOLAY DAVIDENKO
"He always looks like his mum just scrubbed him down."

THOMAS JOHANSSON
"He’s very good looking, and interesting, because he’s an emotional Swede."

FERNANDO GONZALEZ
"Oh my God, I love Fernando. He’s a real nice guy, a good guy.’ His coach is very cool too.’’

GASTON GAUDIO
"He likes to party, believe me. He’s a real good dancer, Gaston."

IVAN LJUBICIC
"Always obliging but also kind of ... unexpressive"

GUILERMO CORIA
"He has this stunning wife. He comes down for breakfast with his family and the wife, and her make-up arrives 15 minutes before her."

But Argentinian David Nalbandian, who is not a favourite of Australian crowds

He's one of my favourites :D :angel:

artlinkletter
01-20-2006, 07:36 PM
That's an interesting read. Nalbandian strikes me as a friendly person, but I agree with Roger being under Mirka's control. I think it's because she's always with him, and he's come to depend on her, emotionally more so than anything else. I want to see Gaston dance now.

Clara Bow
01-20-2006, 07:39 PM
But Argentinian David Nalbandian, who is not a favourite of Australian crowds, has won a prize for being "unco-operative and sour".

"I've never had a problem with him personally, but in Paris the press have the annual Lemon Award for the French Open's annual pain in the neck. He won it last year."

Well, in French Canada, they think differently of him. During the 2005 Montreal tournament the staff voted him "most charming."

As someone who deals in the detail of the sport, Lum notices things others do not. Guillermo Coria, for example, does amazing tricks with his racquet. "He flips it and bounces the ball on the edge of it between sets or when he's changing ends. He's very dexterous; he's like a juggler, a magician."


That's one reson why I love watching Guillermo play. He is always busy between points.

Dirk
01-20-2006, 07:41 PM
Great article.

lau
01-20-2006, 07:43 PM
Well, in French Canada, they think differently of him. During the 2005 Montreal tournament the staff voted him "most charming."

I guess he is unco-operative and sour to certain press. ;) And I don´t blame him.

alelysafina
01-20-2006, 07:43 PM
NIKOLAY DAVIDENKO
"He always looks like his mum just scrubbed him down."


It's nice to know that he showers regularly :lol:

ExpectedWinner
01-20-2006, 07:43 PM
:bs: article. Nalbandian probably refused to f**k her. ;)

Papakori
01-20-2006, 07:44 PM
thankyou :)

PaulieM
01-20-2006, 07:49 PM
thanks, that was a fun read. i love this:
"Frankly, my mother didn't raise stupid children. Why would I want to be on the women's tour? The men are a lot more profitable, the guys are more interesting, the tennis is better, it's more fun. And they're guys. What's wrong with hanging out with cute young guys? They're amazing." :lol: :yeah:

federated
01-20-2006, 07:55 PM
:bs: article. Nalbandian probably refused to f**k her. ;)

Yep. how much do you want to bet that she's tall and blonde, and that she's bent over for gaudio a few times? :rolleyes:

sigmagirl91
01-20-2006, 07:56 PM
Yep. how much do you want to bet that she's tall and blonde, and that she's bent over for gaudio a few times? :rolleyes:

Oh no....that was bad. :o

sigmagirl91
01-20-2006, 07:57 PM
I guess he is unco-operative and sour to certain press. ;) And I don´t blame him.

And I find some of the Australian press to be off-putting, if AO radio is anything to go by.

sigmagirl91
01-20-2006, 07:58 PM
That's an interesting read. Nalbandian strikes me as a friendly person, but I agree with Roger being under Mirka's control. I think it's because she's always with him, and he's come to depend on her, emotionally more so than anything else. I want to see Gaston dance now.

We're reading this from the perspective of a photographer who wants to party and get laid, ok.

artlinkletter
01-20-2006, 08:00 PM
Yep. how much do you want to bet that she's tall and blonde, and that she's bent over for gaudio a few times? :rolleyes:
Click on the link at the beginning of the post. There is a picture of her.

tangerine_dream
01-20-2006, 08:02 PM
"Frankly, my mother didn't raise stupid children. Why would I want to be on the women's tour? The men are a lot more profitable, the guys are more interesting, the tennis is better, it's more fun. And they're guys. What's wrong with hanging out with cute young guys? They're amazing."
:worship: :worship: :worship:
Where do I send my membership dues to Cynthia Lum's fanclub?

artlinkletter
01-20-2006, 08:03 PM
Tangy, have you been possessed by RDucky? Haha, your overwhelming support for Croatians has caught me off guard.

Aleksa's Laydee
01-20-2006, 08:03 PM
THOMAS JOHANSSON
"He’s very good looking, and interesting, because he’s an emotional Swede."

Indeed he is :drool:

nermo
01-20-2006, 08:05 PM
:lol: i don't know why but when i read this, it rapidly jumped to my mind that sometimes a person only sees what he wants to see.

sigmagirl91
01-20-2006, 08:06 PM
Click on the link at the beginning of the post. There is a picture of her.

Oh, hell no! She's :o :eek:

foul_dwimmerlaik
01-20-2006, 08:06 PM
I'm not interested in players' private lives much, but that was a good read.

federated
01-20-2006, 08:06 PM
:lol: i don't know why but when i read this, it rapidly jumped to my mind that sometimes a person only sees what he wants to see.

Word.

artlinkletter
01-20-2006, 08:06 PM
Oh, hell no! She's :o :eek:
Hahahahaha my thoughts exactly.

nobama
01-20-2006, 08:09 PM
We're reading this from the perspective of a photographer who wants to party and get laid, ok.She says Roger never goes out at night. How would she know? Since he admits he doesn't drink much and has a girlfriend he probably isn't haning out at the same places she is.

sigmagirl91
01-20-2006, 08:10 PM
She says Roger never goes out at night. How would she know? Since he admits he doesn't drink much and has a girlfriend he probably isn't haning out at the same places she is.

And by the same token, how would she know about the other players? Apparently, her priorities as a photographer dictate her biases.

PaulieM
01-20-2006, 08:16 PM
:bs: article. Nalbandian probably refused to f**k her. ;)
Yep. how much do you want to bet that she's tall and blonde, and that she's bent over for gaudio a few times? :rolleyes:

Oh, hell no! She's :o :eek:
:yawn:
why is that a woman can't be critical of a man without being bitter? and who cares if she's good looking or not, attractive people are no more entitled to judge others than the less attractive people in this world. it's a harmless little article, unless she's being outright nasty or damning people to hell for no good reason, it doesn't seem like a big deal to me. :shrug:

nermo
01-20-2006, 08:17 PM
posted by Sigmagirl
her priorities as a photographer dictate her biases.

and as a fan of some players as well .

ExpectedWinner
01-20-2006, 08:20 PM
:yawn:
why is that a woman can't be critical of a man without being bitter?

Don't take this board too seriously and pay attention to smiles. :hug:

Somehow this article doesn't inspire me for a serious analysis.

Carito_90
01-20-2006, 08:27 PM
:lol: That was interesting, but I guess it shows the players are as real as they seem to be because that's exactly how I picture each one of them. :lol:

I liked her report. :)

Velvetcat
01-20-2006, 08:27 PM
I don't know why some of you are having a go at her :confused: She hasn't said anything bad as far as I can see. She says she never had a problem with Nalbandian herself, and passed on another view. Anyway, some interviews I've read of Nalbandian from a year ago did come across as un-cooperative. But they've been much better lately, I think his English has improved...

What's wrong with her looks? Post your photos...

As it happens, she's a great photographer for wireimage. I found it amusing about Roger. It's not an insult to say he doesn't go out much. I doubt he does.

And I've read similar stories to the the one she tells about Gaston :dance:

PaulieM
01-20-2006, 08:27 PM
Don't take this board too seriously and pay attention to smiles. :hug:

Somehow this article doesn't inspire me for a serious analysis.
don't worry i wasn't offended, it was just a comment. you're not a nasty piece of work in my book for that:) like i said it was a fun read and i for one am jealous of this woman, i'd gladly have her job and get to hang out with the players. i'd take amazing pics of shirt changes and guys returning serve. :angel:

*Ljubica*
01-20-2006, 08:42 PM
Well all I can say is that Cynthia and I obviously have very different ideas about make up :rolleyes: Carla Coria is is one of the most naturally beautiful young women I have even seen at close quarters - and one of the things I find most attractive about her is how natural she is, and the total lack of make-up etc. Yes of course she wears make-up in the evening or at a party, but for breakfast (and yes I have seen her at breakast in many Players' Hotels over the years), she normally just wears jeans and a T-shirt and no make-up whatsoever. She is so young and pretty she doesn't need it. Ah well - one of us obviously needs our eyes tested!

nermo
01-20-2006, 08:50 PM
posted by Rosie
Carla Coria is is one of the most naturally beautiful young women I have even seen at close quarters - and one of the things I find most attractive about her is how natural she is, and the total lack of make-up etc. Yes of course she wears make-up in the evening or at a party, but for breakfast (and yes I have seen her at breakast in many Players' Hotels over the years), she normally just wears jeans and a T-shirt and no make-up whatsoever. She is so young and pretty she doesn't need it.
wait till adee-gee sees this :)

_pyromatic
01-20-2006, 08:50 PM
i'd gladly have her job and get to hang out with the players. i'd take amazing pics of shirt changes and guys returning serve. :angel:

I would enjoy those pics very much :angel:

RodLo
01-20-2006, 08:56 PM
Love it. :yeah:

delsa
01-20-2006, 09:34 PM
This girl confused Nalbandian with Coria...Nalbandian never got the "Prix Citron" and he's pretty much liked in Paris during RG...:rolleyes:
Oh...And there's no such thing as "French Canada", there's a French speaking part of Canada though...

sigmagirl91
01-20-2006, 09:38 PM
This girl confused Nalbandian with Coria...Nalbandian never got the "Prix Citron" and he's pretty much liked in Paris during RG...:rolleyes:
Oh...And there's no such thing as "French Canada", there's a French speaking part of Canada though...

Yes, David did get the "Citroen Award" from the French press in 2004 during RG.

sigmagirl91
01-20-2006, 09:40 PM
and as a fan of some players as well .

Yeah, you can say that too.

delsa
01-20-2006, 09:45 PM
I don't think the Citroen Award (i didn't know about that prise...) is the same thing as the "Prix Citron", is it? :confused:

sigmagirl91
01-20-2006, 09:46 PM
I don't think the Citroen Award (i didn't know about that prise...) is the same thing as the "Prix Citron", is it? :confused:

I think it is...maybe I'm saying it wrong. Let me find this on the RG site-if I can access the information.

jazz_girl
01-20-2006, 09:52 PM
I don't think the Citroen Award (i didn't know about that prise...) is the same thing as the "Prix Citron", is it? :confused:
We know it as the Lemon Award here. And David did get that :lol:

Clara Bow
01-20-2006, 09:53 PM
Oh...And there's no such thing as "French Canada", there's a French speaking part of Canada though...

I'm sorry- wasn't trying to be offensive or anything. That's just what some of us ignorant yokels (i.e. me) call it here in the US. I did not meant to be insulting- it is just a term used sometimes to designate the French speaking parts of Canada. I will now remove my "Ugly American" sweatshirt. ;)

Anyways, it was a fun article.

Neely
01-20-2006, 09:56 PM
Responding to the title comment: Sure, for me it was also quite clearly visable that Federer has not much to say under Mirka. She pretty much controls his tennis life and manages him, decides who is getting an appointment with him, a shooting, an interiview - whatever. And if this is being done by your partner/girl-friend, it's hard to separate business and private life.

Mistaflava
01-20-2006, 10:14 PM
If this story is true...that's really sad that Rogers (who is a fuckin superstar) would let some fat cow control his life and make all the decisions for him. She is a worthless piece of crap and Roger should go for a hot actress or something.

Earth to Roger....dump that piece of trash fat baboon!



:rolleyes:

jazz_girl
01-20-2006, 10:15 PM
If this story is true...that's really sad that Rogers (who is a fuckin superstar) would let some fat cow control his life and make all the decisions for him. She is a worthless piece of crap and Roger should go for a hot actress or something.

Earth to Roger....dump that piece of trash fat baboon!



:rolleyes:
:rolleyes:

artlinkletter
01-20-2006, 10:21 PM
If this story is true...that's really sad that Rogers (who is a fuckin superstar) would let some fat cow control his life and make all the decisions for him. She is a worthless piece of crap and Roger should go for a hot actress or something.

Earth to Roger....dump that piece of trash fat baboon!



:rolleyes:
How old are you??? Really

Sam L (WTAW)
01-20-2006, 10:26 PM
Who thinks Federer should dump Mirka and get with Martina Hingis?

This would be a better couple than Graf/Agassi.

lau
01-20-2006, 10:36 PM
Who thinks Federer should dump Mirka and get with Martina Hingis?

This would be a better couple than Graf/Agassi.
:scared: Are you a Federer fan? :scared:

Via
01-20-2006, 10:40 PM
thanks for posting the article. i had met cynthia lum before, she's my idol :worship: i want her life ;)

she isn't ugly just a lot older than those young tennis players. isn't it a great life to travel around the world, earning a living doing what you like, having a lot of fun after work, but without the pressure of being a tennis player? not saying that there aren't demands in her work... not to mention all that energy needed for that sort of lifestyle...

i forgot to mention this too... that very few females have made it to her level (full time sports photographer) most are males. as you can see around the courts. and unashamedly admits that she prefers the men's tour too. how cool is that.

Skyward
01-20-2006, 10:41 PM
May be Federer and Hewitt go places where she doesn't hang out or/and can't afford. :shrug:

And why there's no mention of Safin's orgies? :p

federated
01-20-2006, 10:45 PM
thanks for posting the article. i had met cynthia lum before, she's my idol :worship: i want her life ;)

she isn't ugly just a lot older than those young tennis players. isn't it a great life to travel around the world, earning a living doing what you like, having a lot of fun after work, but without the pressure of being a tennis player? not saying that there aren't demands in her work... not to mention all that energy needed for that sort of lifestyle...

I stand corrected; she does seem pretty cool...still :mad: re the nalbandian comment; I hope she was confused.

federated
01-20-2006, 10:48 PM
Who thinks Federer should dump Mirka and get with Martina Hingis?

This would be a better couple than Graf/Agassi.

Umm... just no.

Martina, god bless her, is a stone cold bitch. Federer's too much of a sweetie and too laid back for her.

Of the top men on tour, I could only see martina with hewitt; both super bitches, megalomaniacal, and tough as nails.

Sam L (WTAW)
01-20-2006, 10:59 PM
Umm... just no.

Martina, god bless her, is a stone cold bitch. Federer's too much of a sweetie and too laid back for her.

Of the top men on tour, I could only see martina with hewitt; both super bitches, megalomaniacal, and tough as nails.
How DARE you match Hewitt and Hingis! :mad:

BlackSilver
01-20-2006, 11:24 PM
I could only see martina with hewitt; both super bitches, megalomaniacal, and tough as nails.


Ahahahahaha.......
:haha: :haha:

Good one

Via
01-20-2006, 11:30 PM
I stand corrected; she does seem pretty cool...still :mad: re the nalbandian comment; I hope she was confused.

she doesn't promise to be unbiased. those are her personal opinions. she's part of that travelling circus, she cannot be an objective observer.

nobama
01-21-2006, 12:03 AM
If this story is true...that's really sad that Rogers (who is a fuckin superstar) would let some fat cow control his life and make all the decisions for him. She is a worthless piece of crap and Roger should go for a hot actress or something.

Earth to Roger....dump that piece of trash fat baboon!



:rolleyes:Why do you care who Roger dates?

G O
01-21-2006, 12:08 AM
I stand corrected; she does seem pretty cool...still :mad: re the nalbandian comment; I hope she was confused.


Actually she's pretty well known amongst the photogs as a little bit of a biatch. By the way she's 64 years old and not the friendly grandma type. And she dresses like she's 18! Iv'e seen her around....i would say she's notorious, but she'd take that as a compliment.

In a nutshell she's just another groupie hag who uses photography as her aliby. It's quite pathetic actually. The players talk to her cuz you know, they don't want to be rude or they don't care... anybody can abuse credentials.

There's a lot of strange people in the tennis media (chuckles) world. They somehow think by being around the players and talking to them that somehow that makes them famous too.

That was a funny article. She soooo badly want's the players to think she's THE mens tennis photographer.

G O
01-21-2006, 12:12 AM
You can contact her at Cynthia@PhotoBabe.us..........that's right PhotoBabe! Uhhhhh...OMG!

shotgun
01-21-2006, 12:22 AM
Yes, David did get the "Citroen Award" from the French press in 2004 during RG.

He got a car from the press?? :eek:

;)

Gonzo Hates Me!
01-21-2006, 12:24 AM
Awesome, awesome life she has

Mistaflava
01-21-2006, 12:27 AM
Awesome, awesome life she has


She doesn't deserve it one bit. She doesn't even bother getting in shape or anything. She just sits there, eats ice cream and hot dogs all day and looks disgusting at every event we see her.

Lleyton Hewitt knows women...wow...what a wife.

I care about who Roger dates because dating fat ugly girls like that is horrible for the sport's image.


:o

G O
01-21-2006, 12:30 AM
Awesome, awesome life she has


That's funny you say that cuz, you kind of remind of a Cynthia in her twenties.

Have you ever thought of a career in stalking professional male tennis players?

Dirk
01-21-2006, 12:38 AM
She looks good for an older woman and I bet she was hot in her day. I don't know why people are getting so upset. She does know these players more than we do. :shrug:

nobama
01-21-2006, 12:45 AM
She looks good for an older woman and I bet she was hot in her day. I don't know why people are getting so upset. She does know these players more than we do. :shrug:Well she wants us to believe she does.

federated
01-21-2006, 12:48 AM
I care about who Roger dates because dating fat ugly girls like that is horrible for the sport's image.


:o

Sorry, but that's just staggeringly stupid.

:ras: :cuckoo:

delsa
01-21-2006, 12:55 AM
I'm sorry- wasn't trying to be offensive or anything. That's just what some of us ignorant yokels (i.e. me) call it here in the US. I did not meant to be insulting- it is just a term used sometimes to designate the French speaking parts of Canada. I will now remove my "Ugly American" sweatshirt. ;)

I didn't mean it like that at all. I was just correcting that's all. :hug:

Sam L (WTAW)
01-21-2006, 01:27 AM
She doesn't deserve it one bit. She doesn't even bother getting in shape or anything. She just sits there, eats ice cream and hot dogs all day and looks disgusting at every event we see her.

Lleyton Hewitt knows women...wow...what a wife.

I care about who Roger dates because dating fat ugly girls like that is horrible for the sport's image.


:o
You think Bec Cartwright is hot? She's all plastic dude. Think again.

Liverpool4ever
01-21-2006, 01:36 AM
I would agree that Bec is a very beautiful girl with a very natural look in my opinion. Why would claim that she is all plastic when she has looked the same since she was a teen?

federated
01-21-2006, 02:23 AM
I would agree that Bec is a very beautiful girl with a very natural look in my opinion. Why would claim that she is all plastic when she has looked the same since she was a teen?

Bec beautiful? Everytime I see her I cringe. No offense; to each his/her own. I just don't see it.

sigmagirl91
01-21-2006, 02:54 AM
I stand corrected; she does seem pretty cool...still :mad: re the nalbandian comment; I hope she was confused.

I think that comment she made was recycled from another source. If anything, she needs to be more original. It's been done before.

_pyromatic
01-21-2006, 03:02 AM
Bec beautiful? Everytime I see her I cringe. No offense; to each his/her own. I just don't see it.

I agree. She's horribly fake and wears way too much make-up :eek:

Off topic, but is that a quote from Project Runway in your sig? Because if it is I think I love you.

PaulieM
01-21-2006, 03:03 AM
I agree. She's horribly fake and wears way too much make-up :eek:

Off topic, but is that a quote from Project Runway in your sig? Because if it is I think I love you.
i think it's from zoolander :unsure: although project runway is such as awesome show! :worship:

federated
01-21-2006, 03:05 AM
I agree. She's horribly fake and wears way too much make-up :eek:

Off topic, but is that a quote from Project Runway in your sig? Because if it is I think I love you.

yes; courtesyof daniel v. :wavey: :hug:

PaulieM
01-21-2006, 03:06 AM
yes; courtesyof daniel v. :wavey: :hug:
he's my fave this season. :)

_pyromatic
01-21-2006, 03:13 AM
yes; courtesyof daniel v. :wavey: :hug:

Daniel V! :hearts: Very good taste :D

federated
01-21-2006, 03:17 AM
he's my fave this season. :)

I like santino's aesthetic best when he's not having hot flashes; nick's personality best, and daniel v. because he's hot (though his laid back attitude makes him a close second for personality).

Much like my tennis player preferences...

I like Federer's brilliance and the beauty of his game; Nadal's crazy pirata-wearing outsize persona, and feli cuz he's a looker ( :rolleyes: ).

PaulieM
01-21-2006, 03:21 AM
I like santino's aesthetic best when he's not having hot flashes; nick's personality best, and daniel v. because he's hot (though his laid back attitude makes him a close second for personality).

Much like my tennis player preferences...

I like Federer's brilliance and the beauty of his game; Nadal's crazy pirata-wearing outsize persona, and feli cuz he's a looker ( :rolleyes: ).
santino is good, but far too cocky and obnoxious. nick is funny, and yes daniel is cute, nice and designs well, a winner in my book. i also like chloe, she's cute. don't feel bad about feli, i love him too:o he's hot and even better when he's playing with a brain.

DDrago2
01-21-2006, 03:22 AM
I care about who Roger dates because dating fat ugly girls like that is horrible for the sport's image.



It realy IS funny to see Mirka, who is so fat, with Roger, who is not fat and who is no. 1 tennis star :o. It realy makes you wonder: what's wrong with Roger?
So I back you up with this Mirka thing - although it is none of my bussines... But that relationship realy does not look very healthy from outside.

_pyromatic
01-21-2006, 03:23 AM
I like santino's aesthetic best when he's not having hot flashes; nick's personality best, and daniel v. because he's hot (though his laid back attitude makes him a close second for personality).

Much like my tennis player preferences...

I like Federer's brilliance and the beauty of his game; Nadal's crazy pirata-wearing outsize persona, and feli cuz he's a looker ( :rolleyes: ).

I don't like Santino. Too much whickety whack for me ;) Nick's my favorite designer but Danny V is a close second.

silverwhite
01-21-2006, 03:28 AM
Oh, hell no! She's :o :eek:

Her surname says she's Chinese but she doesn't look the part. :scratch:

nobama
01-21-2006, 03:30 AM
It realy IS funny to see Mirka, who is so fat, with Roger, who is not fat and who is no. 1 tennis star :o. It realy makes you wonder: what's wrong with Roger?
So I back you up with this Mirka thing - although it is none of my bussines... But that relationship realy does not look very healthy from outside.No, it really makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with you. You are really :cuckoo:

silverwhite
01-21-2006, 03:34 AM
She doesn't deserve it one bit. She doesn't even bother getting in shape or anything. She just sits there, eats ice cream and hot dogs all day and looks disgusting at every event we see her.


Photographers need to get into shape because...?

silverwhite
01-21-2006, 03:41 AM
You guys should just chill out. She's just stating her point of view, not trying to convince people to hate certain players or anything... :o

She knows she's dishing out gossip and accordingly took on a not so serious tone.

amierin
01-21-2006, 03:53 AM
:bs: article. Nalbandian probably refused to f**k her. ;)

:haha: :haha: :haha:

That about sums it up.

amierin
01-21-2006, 04:01 AM
Responding to the title comment: Sure, for me it was also quite clearly visable that Federer has not much to say under Mirka. She pretty much controls his tennis life and manages him, decides who is getting an appointment with him, a shooting, an interiview - whatever. And if this is being done by your partner/girl-friend, it's hard to separate business and private life.

Players need someone they trust to run interference for them. Mirka plays that role for Rogelio. If he didn't want her there, if he wanted to party hearty and run the streets he wouldn't be the player he is. I like the fact that he's not in the casino's or clubs during a tournament. It's probably why he's on top.

margaret_gn
01-21-2006, 04:03 AM
lol poor david... he was nice and friendly when we met him at the davis cup practice last year!

that's so sweet what he said about tojo :) good looking and emotional :hearts:

amierin
01-21-2006, 04:12 AM
To be serious I loved the article. Very interesting insights on the players. I have seen this woman and wondered who she was. Lucky her.

BiancaUL
01-21-2006, 04:32 AM
It realy IS funny to see Mirka, who is so fat, with Roger, who is not fat and who is no. 1 tennis star . It realy makes you wonder: what's wrong with Roger?

Probably nothing.

My guess is he probably believes she's beautiful just the way she is and ::gasp:: maybe he knows her well enough to think who she is as a person is beautiful enough to grant her permission to dare bask in his apparently magnificent light...

for-sure
01-21-2006, 05:36 AM
Don't hate.

Mistaflava
01-21-2006, 05:42 AM
It realy IS funny to see Mirka, who is so fat, with Roger, who is not fat and who is no. 1 tennis star :o. It realy makes you wonder: what's wrong with Roger?
So I back you up with this Mirka thing - although it is none of my bussines... But that relationship realy does not look very healthy from outside.



exactly. The top players should all have hot ass girlfriends or wives. If not...it should be deducted from either their paychecks for tournaments or ranking points. Roger is being an idiot. He could get all the ass in the world if he wanted but for whatever reason, he is stuck with a Yeti.

.

joyk
01-21-2006, 06:04 AM
I think Cynthia looks good for a 64 year old woman,but she does talk like she`s a groupie.If a 64 year old man would say he takes WTA pics because he likes cute young girls I think he would be called a pervert :devil:
About the David thing,she said she doesn`t have a problem with him but other members of the press do(which might be true if he did get the Lemon Award) so it`s not a personal attack it`s just an observation.
I think the whole Roger/Mirka debate is pointless the fact that Fed doesn`t like to party doesn`t mean Mirka`s had him loked up in a room and he`s crying his little heart out.Roger is a grown up and a rather intelligent man, I think he`s capable of making decisions and I`m sure his gf has an influence on him but that doesn`t make him brain dead.

Tennis Fool
01-21-2006, 06:05 AM
It's funny the article reflects the basic sentiment of MTF on each of those players.

hitchhiker
01-21-2006, 06:44 AM
I treat the players like normal human beings and they respect that, they like it.


she says that yet then goes on to gossip about them in a newspaper.

if i was a player i would clobber her with a racket. looking at her picture it might have occured to some others as well :angel:

Vass
01-21-2006, 07:36 AM
We're reading this from the perspective of a photographer who wants to party and get laid, ok.
Yep. Roger, Davydenko, Llubicic would not do that with her, so....

Mrs. B
01-21-2006, 08:20 AM
she says that yet then goes on to gossip about them in a newspaper.

if i was a player i would clobber her with a racket. looking at her picture it might have occured to some others as well :angel:

:haha:

Mrs. B
01-21-2006, 08:24 AM
and Ms. Lum prolly took this pic? :devil:

Mirka: "Right, Roger. You are going to bed early tonight, you hear?"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/Frau_Bernhard/Mirka_RogiNY.jpg

Federerthebest
01-21-2006, 09:21 AM
mirka is not the most conventionally good-looking woman but without her roger would probably not have achieved the things he has. well done mirka :worship:

bokehlicious
01-21-2006, 09:35 AM
exactly. The top players should all have hot ass girlfriends or wives. If not...it should be deducted from either their paychecks for tournaments or ranking points. Roger is being an idiot. He could get all the ass in the world if he wanted but for whatever reason, he is stuck with a Yeti.

.

:smash:

bokehlicious
01-21-2006, 09:39 AM
exactly. The top players should all have hot ass girlfriends or wives. If not...it should be deducted from either their paychecks for tournaments or ranking points. Roger is being an idiot. He could get all the ass in the world if he wanted but for whatever reason, he is stuck with a Yeti.

.

If he was with a hot bimbo for sure he'll be more appreciated by a lot of :retard: & :baby: here on MTF :o

sigmagirl91
01-21-2006, 10:01 AM
About the David thing,she said she doesn`t have a problem with him but other members of the press do(which might be true if he did get the Lemon Award) so it`s not a personal attack it`s just an observation.


"Other members of the press" have problems with those who don't play the laugh-a-minute jokester role in their interviews.

Castafiore
01-21-2006, 10:25 AM
If he was with a hot bimbo for sure he'll be more appreciated by a lot of :retard: & :baby: here on MTF :o
To quote JMac: "You cannot be serious".

Here we are again with the :baby: "waaaah...he's not appreciated enough on MTF. " :baby:
Come on, JMP, you can not seriously claim that he's not one of the most - if not THE most - appreciated tennis players on MTF


On topic:
I don't really see the problem actually.
Not every player has to be a party animal. So maybe Roger actually prefers quiet evenings over wild parties wherever he goes. Nothing wrong with that IMO. :shrug:

mallorn
01-21-2006, 10:29 AM
and Ms. Lum prolly took this pic? :devil:

Mirka: "Right, Roger. You are going to bed early tonight, you hear?"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/Frau_Bernhard/Mirka_RogiNY.jpg

Good one, Mrs. B! :lol:

Winston's Human
01-21-2006, 11:00 AM
How awful that Roger acts as a professional athlete, does not abuse his body with alcohol, and is devoted to the woman he loves!

SARCASM OFF

switz
01-21-2006, 11:09 AM
all nice guys are under their girlfriend's thumb...believe me.

she sounds like a slut. yes that's maybe a harsh judgement to pass out but she doesn't hold back so why should i.

DDrago2
01-21-2006, 11:20 AM
How awful that Roger acts as a professional athlete, does not abuse his body with alcohol, and is devoted to the woman he loves!

SARCASM OFF

Hey, alcohol is not that bad from time to time, even Jessus Christ drank wine
:D

And for Roger/Mirka, I sad and I say again: Mirka does not look like a girl to be with someone like Federer, who is a celebrity and should be able to choose more freely. Even my father, who is not very into tennis and usually does not comment on women from TV, remarked the same when he saw Mirka!
But it's Roger's bussiness, so he should sort it out. If I were at his place, I would at least ask Mirka not to attend all of his matches!

Winston's Human
01-21-2006, 11:23 AM
I drink alcohol on a regular basis, but I am not a professional athlete.

My criticism was directed more to the attitude that somehow it is a bad thing that Roger is not a party boy when that may just be his personality.

switz
01-21-2006, 11:31 AM
:lol: i know Roger is so stupid for sticking with the woman he loves rather than pursue the glamorous life of a tennis celebrity. as soon as he won Wimbledon he should have dumped Mirka and hooked up with Paris Hilton. What is he thinking?

almouchie
01-21-2006, 11:38 AM
thats is from a reliable source
Lam has been on the tour for years & has has good relations with the players
& know most of them very well
as much as I was surprised about Federer, I wasnt really shocked becoz it seems like she handles all his affairs & they have a good relationship
& she has played a major part in his achievement & rise to tennis elite

amierin
01-21-2006, 12:19 PM
:lol: i know Roger is so stupid for sticking with the woman he loves rather than pursue the glamorous life of a tennis celebrity. as soon as he won Wimbledon he should have dumped Mirka and hooked up with Paris Hilton. What is he thinking?

:worship: :worship: :worship:

nobama
01-21-2006, 12:20 PM
Hey, alcohol is not that bad from time to time, even Jessus Christ drank wine
:D

And for Roger/Mirka, I sad and I say again: Mirka does not look like a girl to be with someone like Federer, who is a celebrity and should be able to choose more freely. Even my father, who is not very into tennis and usually does not comment on women from TV, remarked the same when he saw Mirka!
But it's Roger's bussiness, so he should sort it out. If I were at his place, I would at least ask Mirka not to attend all of his matches!You really are a douchebag. :retard:

nobama
01-21-2006, 12:21 PM
:lol: i know Roger is so stupid for sticking with the woman he loves rather than pursue the glamorous life of a tennis celebrity. as soon as he won Wimbledon he should have dumped Mirka and hooked up with Paris Hilton. What is he thinking?Yeah, especially since she's had such a negative affect on his career. Just think how many gs titles he'd have if he was screwing some hot model. :lol:

garylanders
01-21-2006, 12:53 PM
Mistaflava> You´re 15 yrs of age or younger right ? Otherwise you must be a retard..not that there´s anything wrong with that.

DDrago2> Id say you´re just a plain retard..wont get better with age. Sorry.

/GL

*Ljubica*
01-21-2006, 02:06 PM
:lol: i know Roger is so stupid for sticking with the woman he loves rather than pursue the glamorous life of a tennis celebrity. as soon as he won Wimbledon he should have dumped Mirka and hooked up with Paris Hilton. What is he thinking?
:worship: Great post :worship: Seems some of the more stupid, immature little boys here cannot accept a man who is mature and secure enough to love a woman for herself - not just because he feels the need to impress his mates with some anorexic, plastic bimbo on his arm :rolleyes: Guess they hate Mirka because she has a good brain, and they're scared of strong, intelligent women who will make them feel more stupid than they already are :devil: Good for Roger and Mirka - they have been together a long time and they are happy and love each other - that is all that matters :)

Peoples
01-21-2006, 02:06 PM
Ohh so it's this Lynthia Cum who must have sent Alfonsojose the famous groupie guide from the "biggest dick" topic. ;)

sigmagirl91
01-21-2006, 02:07 PM
Ohh so it's this Lynthia Cum who must have sent Alfonsojose the famous groupie guide from the "biggest dick" topic. ;)

OMG!!! :eek: You may be right...

sigmagirl91
01-21-2006, 02:09 PM
thats is from a reliable source
Lam has been on the tour for years & has has good relations with the players
& know most of them very well
as much as I was surprised about Federer, I wasnt really shocked becoz it seems like she handles all his affairs & they have a good relationship
& she has played a major part in his achievement & rise to tennis elite

Cynthia Lum seems more interested in gossip than real news...which is probably why she's a photographer. And, from what I can gather from the content of this thread, almost everyone else is too.

wcr
01-21-2006, 02:11 PM
Hardly. Roger is the one who put Mirka in charge of arranging his affairs and he did so for a reason - she is great at it and he trusts her and she's probably a most excellent travelling companion as well. I'd wager that Roger is as meticulous in his business and life affairs as he is in his with his game. It's all important to him right down to his Prada underwear.

After he won his first USO title in 2004, American Vogue ran a spread on him. The article included an interview with both Roger and Mirka where the reporter was asking Mirka questions about her helping Roger with his fashion style. Roger was correcting and adding to every comment she made, guiding her along to the right statement.

This man is in charge of all things Roger Federer.

sigmagirl91
01-21-2006, 02:19 PM
Hardly. Roger is the one who put Mirka in charge of arranging his affairs and he did so for a reason - she is great at it and he trusts her and she's probably a most excellent travelling companion as well. I'd wager that Roger is as meticulous in his business and life affairs as he is in his with his game. It's all important to him right down to his Prada underwear.

After he won his first USO title in 2004, American Vogue ran a spread on him. The article included an interview with both Roger and Mirka where the reporter was asking Mirka questions about her helping Roger with his fashion style. Roger was correcting and adding to every comment she made, guiding her along to the right statement.

This man is in charge of all things Roger Federer.

Thanks for that bit of insight. :)

PaulieM
01-21-2006, 02:35 PM
Cynthia Lum seems more interested in gossip than real news...which is probably why she's a photographer. And, from what I can gather from the content of this thread, almost everyone else is too.
did she or the author at any time claim that it was real news? unless they did, i don't see the harm. :shrug: i wouldn't take everything she says as absolute truth, but i wouldn't discount that there may be some truth to some of it, just because it's not necessarily favorable about my fave. even if she's spent only 10 minutes with a player, that's more time than i have so i can say she's in more of a position to judge than i am, and should feel free to do so. i don't get why people are so offended by her comments, nothing she or a lot of other people say about a player i like will change my thoughts about them. :)

Raquel
01-21-2006, 03:27 PM
Actually she's pretty well known amongst the photogs as a little bit of a biatch. By the way she's 64 years old and not the friendly grandma type. And she dresses like she's 18! Iv'e seen her around....i would say she's notorious, but she'd take that as a compliment.

In a nutshell she's just another groupie hag who uses photography as her aliby. It's quite pathetic actually. The players talk to her cuz you know, they don't want to be rude or they don't care... anybody can abuse credentials.

She's 64?! Honestly, reading that was like reading some Valley Girl teenager's diary, talking about all the hot boys at school.

zimzim
01-21-2006, 04:04 PM
I find the Federer/Mirka relationship very romantic. I think it is so sweet that despite his success, he can still stay faithful to her. I think she is a smart woman, and Federer is even smarter for sticking with her......to be quite honest Federer's relationship with Mirka is one of the things I like most about him.

violet coley
01-21-2006, 04:11 PM
He doesn't have the opportunity to be unfaithful because she never leaves his side for a minute.

zimzim
01-21-2006, 04:13 PM
Then that's a wise girl!

violet coley
01-21-2006, 04:16 PM
I bet that ankle brace Roger's wearing is really an electronic tag so Mirka can keep tabs on him at all times!

PaulieM
01-21-2006, 04:17 PM
I bet that ankle brace Roger's wearing is really an electronic tag so Mirka can keep tabs on him at all times!
:rolls:

partygirl
01-21-2006, 04:57 PM
exactly. The top players should all have hot ass girlfriends or wives. If not...it should be deducted from either their paychecks for tournaments or ranking points.

.
what if they are gay?

bellascarlett
01-21-2006, 05:17 PM
I'm disappointed...no mention of Safin...but I guess she was just asked about those who were/are playing at the Open.

lol at the ppl saying Mirka is fat & ugly and making it seem that Roger is way above her. Roger isnt that good looking either. They've been together for years so something obviously seems to work. And hey, if Mirka is able to control the best tennis player in the world, more power to her...;)

El Legenda
01-21-2006, 05:19 PM
:rolls: without this thread, there would be no proof that Mistaflava is an idiot and :retard:

*Ljubica*
01-21-2006, 05:22 PM
:rolls: without this thread, there would no proof that Mistaflava is an idiot and :retard:
I thought the proof was all over MTF in almost every thread he contributes too :angel:

El Legenda
01-21-2006, 05:24 PM
I thought the proof was all over MTF in almost every thread he contributes too :angel:

the little kid does his best

did you see the one when he said that doubles players are fat.
i guess he has never seen tennis live or on TV to see what a lot of singles players play dubs :rolls:

Sjengster
01-21-2006, 05:52 PM
what if they are gay?

Extra ranking points awarded for creativity.

World Beater
01-21-2006, 06:30 PM
mirka is one of the reasons that roger has become so successful. she keeps his two feet on the ground and makes sure his ego doesnt wander into the stratosphere.

she isn't so awe struck at roger as regular fans of tennis and this is a good thing.

imagine if hingis and federer were together. martina would inflate roger until he popped.

nobama
01-21-2006, 06:33 PM
He doesn't have the opportunity to be unfaithful because she never leaves his side for a minute.Did you ever think that maybe he chooses to be monogamous? Not every guy has the urge to jump every girl he comes in contact with. :rolleyes:

El Legenda
01-21-2006, 06:35 PM
Not every guy has the urge to jump every girl he comes in contact with. :rolleyes:

Yes, if the girl is hot :rolls:

nermo
01-21-2006, 06:50 PM
posted by Violet coley
I bet that ankle brace Roger's wearing is really an electronic tag so Mirka can keep tabs on him at all times!
:haha:


posted by Sjngester
Extra ranking points awarded for creativity.
:lol:


Originally Posted by DDrago2
Hey, alcohol is not that bad from time to time, even Jessus Christ drank wine
Where did u get that from?? :ignore:


posted by World beater
mirka is one of the reasons that roger has become so successful. she keeps his two feet on the ground and makes sure his ego doesnt wander into the stratosphere.
she isn't so awe struck at roger as regular fans of tennis and this is a good thing.
imagine if hingis and federer were together. martina would inflate roger until he popped.
:hatoff: , and believe it or not, but i think they, being together might be one of the reasons for his popularity

nobama
01-21-2006, 07:12 PM
Yes, if the girl is hot :rolls:Well ok then I guess Roger is wierd.

lau
01-21-2006, 07:18 PM
Well ok then I guess Roger is wierd.
or is in love? :shrug:

Vass
01-21-2006, 07:32 PM
I'm disappointed...no mention of Safin...but I guess she was just asked about those who were/are playing at the Open.

What do ya wonna know? :p I've been observing him in the locker room of one tournament for 3 years. ;)

Gonzo Hates Me!
01-21-2006, 08:07 PM
People defending Roger keep acting like he is this all-amazing, sensitive, understanding man to date a girl who doesn't look like a top actress and have a body of a supermodel. I don't think he needs to be praised for dating Mirka. Why should you be praised for simply being in love with someone and not falling out of love with them. B/c that's all it is. Nothing extraordinary.

But people have to remember, when they started dating, Mirka was probably up there as one of the hottest girls on the tour. Well, when Mirka was a player, I thought she was really really hot. Hotter than Barbara Schett for sure who everyone seems to think is so hot even though she could get some teeth work done. Anyway, yeah, Mirka has let herself go some. Now that she is not playing tennis, I am sure she doesnt have a strict gym regimen for herself, but to me, she will always be that hot tennis player girl, and that's why I refuse to think she is "fat" or "ugly." I mean, I can't believe people think she is ugly! Chubby, a little, but ugly! Clearly, some people have only been watching tennis for a year. If Mirka got back to the way she used to be, a lot of people would feel stupid

Fedex
01-21-2006, 08:12 PM
:worship: Great post :worship: Seems some of the more stupid, immature little boys here cannot accept a man who is mature and secure enough to love a woman for herself - not just because he feels the need to impress his mates with some anorexic, plastic bimbo on his arm :rolleyes: Guess they hate Mirka because she has a good brain, and they're scared of strong, intelligent women who will make them feel more stupid than they already are :devil: Good for Roger and Mirka - they have been together a long time and they are happy and love each other - that is all that matters :)
And that's one of the reason's I admire Federer so much. Roger could have whoever he wanted, a model girlfriend, or an actress or whatever, but he doesn't need or want one. What he was with Mirka is true love.

nobama
01-21-2006, 10:00 PM
or is in love? :shrug:Well I think so, but I think some here have a different opinion.

DDrago2
01-22-2006, 05:35 AM
mirka keeps his two feet on the ground and makes sure his ego doesnt wander into the stratosphere.


So it's her fault...

imagine if hingis and federer were together. martina would inflate roger until he popped.

Martina, go, go, go!! Federer won't pop - he will just become even more interesting.

Nermo: Jesus Christ did drink wine, it is known (I mean, he probabbly wasn't a drunkard... he may have drank only during parties). Wine is not called "Jesus's blood" in byble for nothing.

onewoman74
01-22-2006, 05:48 AM
:worship: Great post :worship: Seems some of the more stupid, immature little boys here cannot accept a man who is mature and secure enough to love a woman for herself - not just because he feels the need to impress his mates with some anorexic, plastic bimbo on his arm :rolleyes: Guess they hate Mirka because she has a good brain, and they're scared of strong, intelligent women who will make them feel more stupid than they already are :devil: Good for Roger and Mirka - they have been together a long time and they are happy and love each other - that is all that matters :)

I couldn't agree more...people can be so shallow. Either Fed can have Mirka or a Posh spice wannabe who looks like she hasn't seen food in years, wears an orange tan and has plastic surgery every two months.

Sorry, but Mirka wins by a landslide.

federated
01-22-2006, 06:07 AM
Hey, alcohol is not that bad from time to time, even Jessus Christ drank wine
:D

And for Roger/Mirka, I sad and I say again: Mirka does not look like a girl to be with someone like Federer, who is a celebrity and should be able to choose more freely. Even my father, who is not very into tennis and usually does not comment on women from TV, remarked the same when he saw Mirka!
But it's Roger's bussiness, so he should sort it out. If I were at his place, I would at least ask Mirka not to attend all of his matches!

just dumb as dirt. I hope you are in your teens; no adult should be so stupid.

federated
01-22-2006, 06:11 AM
People defending Roger keep acting like he is this all-amazing, sensitive, understanding man to date a girl who doesn't look like a top actress and have a body of a supermodel. I don't think he needs to be praised for dating Mirka. Why should you be praised for simply being in love with someone and not falling out of love with them. B/c that's all it is. Nothing extraordinary.

But people have to remember, when they started dating, Mirka was probably up there as one of the hottest girls on the tour. Well, when Mirka was a player, I thought she was really really hot. Hotter than Barbara Schett for sure who everyone seems to think is so hot even though she could get some teeth work done. Anyway, yeah, Mirka has let herself go some. Now that she is not playing tennis, I am sure she doesnt have a strict gym regimen for herself, but to me, she will always be that hot tennis player girl, and that's why I refuse to think she is "fat" or "ugly." I mean, I can't believe people think she is ugly! Chubby, a little, but ugly! Clearly, some people have only been watching tennis for a year. If Mirka got back to the way she used to be, a lot of people would feel stupid

alot of Word here. I don't understand the mirka-is-ugly comments either. she's got luminous skin anda very conventionally pretty caucasian face.

The only think that I might consider weird if I cared is that he is uberfit and she is not. But whatever, there's no law that says couples need to share the same Body Mass Index.

Minnie
01-22-2006, 08:28 AM
And as anyone who knows anything about real love knows, looks become secondary to the person inside those looks ....

bellascarlett
01-22-2006, 12:38 PM
What do ya wonna know? :p I've been observing him in the locker room of one tournament for 3 years. ;)

:lol: serious? haha well just spill... ;)

PamV
01-22-2006, 01:28 PM
I can only think that Roger enjoys being under Mirka's thumb. If were her I'd keep him under my thumb too! :worship:

Whistleway
01-22-2006, 04:25 PM
We all know Mirka is the switch at federer's. Anyone who has seen them interact can vouch for that Mirka is the boss out there, or apparently, federer leading on to believe that she is.

admiralpye
06-07-2006, 06:52 AM
That's an interesting read. Nalbandian strikes me as a friendly person, but I agree with Roger being under Mirka's control. I think it's because she's always with him, and he's come to depend on her, emotionally more so than anything else. I want to see Gaston dance now.
Just saw this thread, sorry.

Was with Cynthia Lum all through Shanghai Masters Cup. And partied with her, too. It was at Club Rouge that we got to mingle a while with Gaston and his friends. He is a GREAT dancer. And it was good to see him laugh after his double-bagel against Fed (yes, it was THAT kind of a night).

admiralpye
06-07-2006, 06:53 AM
Roger looks so much better in person, too, btw...

BelgianWaffle
06-07-2006, 07:07 AM
Actually she's pretty well known amongst the photogs as a little bit of a biatch. By the way she's 64 years old and not the friendly grandma type. And she dresses like she's 18! Iv'e seen her around....i would say she's notorious, but she'd take that as a compliment.

In a nutshell she's just another groupie hag who uses photography as her aliby. It's quite pathetic actually. The players talk to her cuz you know, they don't want to be rude or they don't care... anybody can abuse credentials.

There's a lot of strange people in the tennis media (chuckles) world. They somehow think by being around the players and talking to them that somehow that makes them famous too.

That was a funny article. She soooo badly want's the players to think she's THE mens tennis photographer.
Exactly my thoughts. There's something very unprofessional with this article. Makes her sounds like she hangs out with the players all the time :rolleyes: and she sounds like a gossip columnist (or worse, a 64 year old groupie).
:unsure:

{Annie}
06-07-2006, 07:13 AM
Exactly my thoughts. There's something very unprofessional with this article. Makes her sounds like she hangs out with the players all the time :rolleyes: and she sounds like a gossip columnist (or worse, a 64 year old groupie).
:unsure:

:rolls: :rolls: :rolls: :yeah:

NINA_BCN
06-07-2006, 07:43 AM
Exactly my thoughts. There's something very unprofessional with this article. Makes her sounds like she hangs out with the players all the time :rolleyes: and she sounds like a gossip columnist (or worse, a 64 year old groupie).
:unsure:
She's a bad version of a psycho grannie. :scared:

MariaV
06-07-2006, 07:48 AM
She's a bad version of a psycho grannie. :scared:
Puuuh Alicia, we PGs are nice people not like her! :rolleyes: ;)

Experimentee
06-07-2006, 07:49 AM
Interesting article, but we have to remember its only fro one persons perspective, and it sounds like she doesnt really get to see them a lot.
It sounds a bit like shes name dropping and gossiping just to sort of boast about how shes around all these players so much, which i find a bit distasteful :rolleyes:

Pea
06-07-2006, 08:46 AM
Just saw this thread, sorry.

Was with Cynthia Lum all through Shanghai Masters Cup. And partied with her, too. It was at Club Rouge that we got to mingle a while with Gaston and his friends. He is a GREAT dancer. And it was good to see him laugh after his double-bagel against Fed (yes, it was THAT kind of a night).

Tell us how does this Cynthia look?:drool:

NINA_BCN
06-07-2006, 08:49 AM
Puuuh Alicia, we PGs are nice people not like her! :rolleyes: ;)
I said "bad version". ;)

admiralpye
06-07-2006, 10:04 AM
Tell us how does this Cynthia look?:drool:

Well, that photo certainly doesn't do her justice. She's very charming and easy-going.

And such a man magnet!!! We were in the Bar Rouge for 10 minutes and a hot guy was already making the moves! lol! I am NOT kidding. Then she said, "I'm going to see if I can find Gaston. And she did, and that's how we somehow ended up dancing in their circle.

She's just such an appealing person. Not beautiful in teh supermodel sense, but a femme fatale. And she looks young for her age.

She's Pat Rafter's favorite photographer, by the way.

admiralpye
06-07-2006, 10:07 AM
By the way, say what you will about her, but the players are on a first-name basis with her, definitely. I took her stories with a grain of salt until I saw and heard with my own eyes how players like Fed, Gaston, Rafa were treating her like part of their family. *envy*

I guess being on tour that long as a photog really connects you with your subjects (the players).

forever_rafter
06-07-2006, 10:09 AM
She's Pat Rafter's favorite photographer, by the way.


oh really? ;) I have a friend who has similar effect on both men and women :)

admiralpye
06-07-2006, 10:09 AM
PPS I haven't heard any of the reporters and TV crew I met say anything bad about her. She does dress young, but I guess it's because she still has the figure for it. :) I wish I could cover another tournament with her around :)

admiralpye
06-07-2006, 10:12 AM
oh really? ;) I have a friend who has similar effect on both men and women :)

yeah, there's this interview transcript somewhere in the ATP archives where Rafter totally ignores the reporters when he notices Cynthia in the room. They have a conversation that went something like:

Pat: Hi cynthia! (or some greeting) Where's that red dress I like?

Cyn: Oh, i didn't wear it today.

Pat: Wear it next time.

Check it! Check it! It was pretty funny.

~EMiLiTA~
06-07-2006, 12:17 PM
Exactly my thoughts. There's something very unprofessional with this article. Makes her sounds like she hangs out with the players all the time :rolleyes: and she sounds like a gossip columnist (or worse, a 64 year old groupie).
:unsure:

exactly

what a tryhard

forever_rafter
06-07-2006, 12:42 PM
yeah, there's this interview transcript somewhere in the ATP archives where Rafter totally ignores the reporters when he notices Cynthia in the room. They have a conversation that went something like:

Pat: Hi cynthia! (or some greeting) Where's that red dress I like?

Cyn: Oh, i didn't wear it today.

Pat: Wear it next time.

Check it! Check it! It was pretty funny.

but it's so unlike Pat, he doesn't ignore ppl like that

admiralpye
06-07-2006, 12:49 PM
well, he didn't exactly ignore the reporters. he was just distracted for a bit and talked to cynthia out of the blue. anyway, it should be online somewhere I'll look for it :)

s.m.
06-07-2006, 12:53 PM
:worship: :worship: :worship:
Where do I send my membership dues to Cynthia Lum's fanclub?

www.stupidcows.com

admiralpye
06-07-2006, 01:31 PM
She doesn't deserve it one bit. She doesn't even bother getting in shape or anything. She just sits there, eats ice cream and hot dogs all day and looks disgusting at every event we see her.

Lleyton Hewitt knows women...wow...what a wife.

I care about who Roger dates because dating fat ugly girls like that is horrible for the sport's image.


:o

Sorry this is late comment, but I just had to say: Mirka gets my vote.

From her photos when she was a player, I see part of the reason Roger fell in love with her. Another is she doesn't seem to be overbearing, and deosn't mind if Roger gets the spotlight. She just patiently waits and supports him. I dare say the reason Roger signed with an agency of late is because Mirka has more pressure than she can handle right now (handling Roger's career, sidelining her own goals in favor of his, etc.) She looks so exhausted sometimes.

And please please don't ever put Bec Cartwright on the same level as Mirka. I don't think it's fair.

What did Bec ever do that's comparable to what Mirka did for Roger? She's just a pretty face and body that got lucky in bagging a tennis superstar. And judging from her "articles" (and wedding poem), Bec doesn't seem like a very bright person. I have trouble respecting people who have the means to better their minds, but don't because they would rather cruise by using their beauty.

maria87
06-07-2006, 01:50 PM
this is old, i read it a long long time ago

dkw
06-07-2006, 01:53 PM
From her photos when she was a player, I see part of the reason Roger fell in love with her. Another is she doesn't seem to be overbearing, and deosn't mind if Roger gets the spotlight. She just patiently waits and supports him. I dare say the reason Roger signed with an agency of late is because Mirka has more pressure than she can handle right now (handling Roger's career, sidelining her own goals in favor of his, etc.) She looks so exhausted sometimes.
All this from some old photos... talk about someone having special talents :)

admiralpye
06-07-2006, 02:10 PM
All this from some old photos... talk about someone having special talents :)

Looks aren't everything, in spite of what many people think. For one thing, Mirka is NOT ugly. Second, if I were a top tennis player like Roger, sure, I'd probably sleep around with models and actresses, but then I'd obviously go for a wise, supportive chick I'm compatible with, who inspires me and helps keep my career on track. Arm candy like Bec only has shelf life of a few years. Then what do you do with her?

bokehlicious
06-07-2006, 02:22 PM
if I were a top tennis player like Roger, sure, I'd probably sleep around with models and actresses

Thanks god Roger's not Marat :worship: :angel:

tripb19
06-07-2006, 02:30 PM
Re: Nalbandian:

Before one of his later AO matches he came on a pre-gameplay show with Bruce McAvaney (sp?) and John "I'm not biased" Alexander, and he was funny, charming and very friendly. I believe sometimes he doesn't get on with certain press, but he is always nice to his fans (the real people to talk to) and comes across to me personally as very nice.

dkw
06-07-2006, 02:30 PM
Looks aren't everything, in spite of what many people think. For one thing, Mirka is NOT ugly. Second, if I were a top tennis player like Roger, sure, I'd probably sleep around with models and actresses, but then I'd obviously go for a wise, supportive chick I'm compatible with, who inspires me and helps keep my career on track. Arm candy like Bec only has shelf life of a few years. Then what do you do with her?
I never said Mirka was ugly... actually I was just complementing you on your intuitiveness :cool:

dkw
06-07-2006, 02:31 PM
Thanks god Roger's not Marat :worship: :angel:
Yeah Roger is so ugly he doesn't have to worry about hot women throwing themselves at him :angel:

wimbledonfan
06-07-2006, 02:50 PM
Roger Federer can get more girls than any player on tour .

dkw
06-07-2006, 02:59 PM
Yes but quantity doesn't always equal quality :D

admiralpye
06-07-2006, 03:14 PM
I never said Mirka was ugly... actually I was just complementing you on your intuitiveness :cool:

Sorry to sound sore about it. Just wanted to reiterate my point. The Bec Cartwright comparison really got me going. I guess I just have a soft spot for Mirka. :)

bokehlicious
06-07-2006, 03:15 PM
Yeah Roger is so ugly he doesn't have to worry about hot women throwing themselves at him :angel:

Roger is the reachest guy on tour, and you're aware that hot chicks often like wealthy people, aren't you ? :confused:

Ales_Alessandra
06-07-2006, 03:52 PM
Thanks god Roger's not Marat :worship: :angel:
:p

DDrago2
06-07-2006, 03:55 PM
I don't think Mirka is Federer's problem on any way, on the contrary But he maybe has some other problems

sammy2
06-07-2006, 10:44 PM
You lot are extremely judgemental about players partners without any real idea what constitutes a relationship. Mirka and Bec obviously fulfil the needs of Roger and Lleyton on many levels and it is not up to anyone else to offer up opinions unless they know the parties involved personally.
Get real you lot.
This thread was started because of a photographer's lust for young fit men. Nothing more. Lum doesn't seem to like anyone who prefers a quite life, just the party boys.
And to rate anyone else's partner on looks is very childish. It is blatantly obvious that a lot of the posters here seem to believe every bit of 'gossip' going around, and are extremely young and inexperienced.
Of course Lum doesn't like to mix it with the WTA players - the boys are far more interesting she says. I guess she must have a very sad personal life.

Allure
06-07-2006, 11:00 PM
Well, in French Canada, they think differently of him. During the 2005 Montreal tournament the staff voted him "most charming."



That's one reson why I love watching Guillermo play. He is always busy between points.

But isn't it possible to be nice to someone else but still be a jerk? For example, this girl in high school was mean to the unpopular people but nice to her group of friends. Does that mean she's not a b*tch? I'm not saying Nalbandian is a jerk (I like him) but just because he's nice to one country's press and mean to the other doesn't mean he isn't a jerk.

Clara Bow
06-07-2006, 11:06 PM
But isn't it possible to be nice to someone else but still be a jerk?

Well of course, but on the same token- I think it also possible to be a jerk sometimes and a nice guy at other times. That is the point that I was trying to make. ;) I think that David is probably grumpy more than most, but I also think that he can have his good moments at other times. I think we tend to paint tennis players in one color, someone is a saint, someone is a brat, someone is a sweetheart, someone is an a-hole, someone is a clown- when I think, like all folks- they likely have different aspects to their individual personalities.

chicky841
06-08-2006, 12:21 AM
Well of course, but on the same token- I think it also possible to be a jerk sometimes and a nice guy at other times. That is the point that I was trying to make. ;) I think that David is probably grumpy more than most, but I also think that he can have his good moments at other times. I think we tend to paint tennis players in one color, someone is a saint, someone is a brat, someone is a sweetheart, someone is an a-hole, someone is a clown- when I think, like all folks- they likely have different aspects to their individual personalities.

:worship:

On the Mirka note I dont know how anyone could call her ugly. I personally think shes beautiful. Sure she has a few extra pounds on her but who cares? Its incredibly sad some of the posts ppl have made about Mirka. I dont know how you could write that without feeling like a complete idiot.

Bagelicious
06-08-2006, 12:43 AM
From an interview with Mirka:

Q: You are something like Roger's Chief-Assistant…
A: …sometimes I realise that I almost don't have time for myself. And I also can't do
Much sport anymore - that's why I have a few pounds too much. I'm fully aware of that!

Q: Is that disturbing you?
A: It's about Rogi now. He's the number 1 in the world. You are that only once in your
Life. My time is still coming. After the tennis. We have discussed this like that.

Q: How important is it for your relationship that you were a pro yourself once?
A: Very important. I'd even say, that's why we get along so perfectly. No other woman could
Deal with so much tennis. It's all about tennis, every day, every minute.

Here's a link to the complete article. (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=3559233&postcount=745)

To those of you that think that Mirka is too fat for Roger: Stop drinking the haterade.

chicky841
06-08-2006, 01:16 AM
Great article thnx for posting. They make a lovely couple :)

nobama
06-08-2006, 01:21 AM
From an interview with Mirka:



Here's a link to the complete article. (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=3559233&postcount=745)

To those of you that think that Mirka is too fat for Roger: Stop drinking the haterade.Hmm...I wonder if she's aware of the haters out there that comment on her weight or think Roger needs to dump her for some supermodel chick. Btw on ESPN2 the other day they showed her in the stands and did a close up on a huge rock she was wearing on her left hand. PMac wonderedo outloud if it might be an engagement ring.

admiralpye
06-08-2006, 03:33 AM
And to rate anyone else's partner on looks is very childish. It is blatantly obvious that a lot of the posters here seem to believe every bit of 'gossip' going around, and are extremely young and inexperienced.
.

Guilty as charged (re: Bec). Although I was reacting to someone rating her looks as an advantage over Mirka.

sammy2
06-08-2006, 06:39 AM
It takes a special kind of woman/girl to give up her own aspirations to be with and support a professional tennis player. There are a lot of them, and I think they are just great, no matter what they look like etc. I doubt if a glamorous model/actress who wants to further her career would find the tennis circuit full of opportunities.
The players that are in committed relationships are the ones who prefer the quiet life off the court - the others are the fun boys. No problems for me either way.
And nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors.

dkw
06-08-2006, 06:52 AM
Roger is the reachest guy on tour, and you're aware that hot chicks often like wealthy people, aren't you ? :confused:
You're so right!! What was I thinking.... I'm sure Roger can clean-up on all of Ronaldinho's leftovers ;) :devil:

Corey Feldman
06-09-2006, 08:35 AM
Ahh Cynthia
the infamous ATP groupie wannabe with a camera.

BelgianWaffle
06-09-2006, 08:42 AM
On the Mirka note I dont know how anyone could call her ugly. I personally think shes beautiful. Sure she has a few extra pounds on her but who cares? Its incredibly sad some of the posts ppl have made about Mirka. I dont know how you could write that without feeling like a complete idiot.
:yeah:
I agree. I don't know why it would be more fun to see some clueless model chick sitting in the stands, parading around with Federer. Obviously he just isn't that kind of man.
Him and Mirka have been together for quite a while and they love each other very much. If you have that kind of thing together, serious problems will have to rise to end you relationship. You don't wake up one morning, look at her and go "gosh, I'm famous and rich now. I guess I could trade her in for someone slimmer and more beautiful. Bye!"
:rolleyes:

fooclate
06-09-2006, 08:54 AM
:worship:

On the Mirka note I dont know how anyone could call her ugly. I personally think shes beautiful. Sure she has a few extra pounds on her but who cares? Its incredibly sad some of the posts ppl have made about Mirka. I dont know how you could write that without feeling like a complete idiot.


i totally agree! great post! just because someone is famous doesnt mean their girlfriends have to be tall,blonde and long legged and the next top model!Mirka and Roger make a beautiful couple! So what if he's under her thumb? Shes not some controlling freak! He's just in love with her!They have different personalitles nd he is the quieter one!She just happens to be the most dominating one and after all. *Behind every mans success lies a woman!* :worship:

scoobs
06-09-2006, 09:12 AM
You don't hear this "under the thumb" nonsense if a woman gives the impression that she defers to the man in the relationship, but when a man defers to the woman, he's under the thumb. A bit sexist, no?

It sounds to me like they've found the arrangements that work exceptionally well for them - she organises him on a day to day basis while his career continues, then when that's over they'll have time to pursue things she wants to do and lead a more settled life.

Good for them, it's clearly working and all this sour carping is a little sad.

fooclate
06-09-2006, 09:26 AM
Yeah Roger is so ugly he doesn't have to worry about hot women throwing themselves at him :angel:

Ugh. That is just so shallow. Havent you ever heard looks arent everything? Unless your a model and Roger isnt any model. Hes a tennis player and the best at that also. Please dont stoop down so low. That statement was outrageous.

dkw
06-09-2006, 09:29 AM
Ugh. That is just so shallow. Havent you ever heard looks arent everything? Unless your a model and Roger isnt any model. Hes a tennis player and the best at that also. Please dont stoop down so low. That statement was outrageous.

If you think that's outrageous check out post #190 :D

fooclate
06-09-2006, 09:42 AM
GASP! *shock and trauma hit hard!* but but i love rogi.. dont be so rude :bigcry: For all you know he might have a fantastic personality and women are attracted to that also! Unless theyre stupid bimbos who just want guys with the looks and moolah. But u see rogi has both :D If not looks according to you(which i still disagree with but everyones entitled to their opinion) then atleast the greens and the talent :D

scoobs
06-09-2006, 09:45 AM
I think Roger is gorgeous and I don't think I'm alone in this - he's not a classic himbo but he has a smouldering intensity and a well-dressed grown-up hotness that I really go for.

bokehlicious
06-09-2006, 09:50 AM
GASP! *shock and trauma hit hard!* but but i love rogi.. dont be so rude

If you can't stand sore comments towards Roger better stay away from GM and keep stuck within his sub-forum ;) :angel:

fooclate
06-09-2006, 09:56 AM
If you can't stand sore comments towards Roger better stay away from GM and keep stuck within his sub-forum ;) :angel:


If i couldnt take the "sore comments" i would've left this forum long back. Everyones entitled to an opinion as i said before hence the billion people on this forum right now expressing their views. Now that was my view and you just said yours out aloud. :yeah: For every person who should have left beause they couldnt "stand sore comments" against their favourite player, then there would be very FEW people on this forum right now :angel:

dkw
06-09-2006, 10:04 AM
Fooclate for your own personal well-being I suggest you put me on ignore :)

bokehlicious
06-09-2006, 10:06 AM
Fooclate for your own personal well-being I suggest you put me on ignore :)

You're a nice kid compared to the real hatas :o :wavey:

fooclate
06-09-2006, 10:08 AM
Haha atleast we agree on that! Was just figuring how to do it! But after i saw your post i realized.. not to particurlarly bothered about my personal being! But your welcome to. :)

dkw
06-09-2006, 10:43 AM
You're a nice kid compared to the real hatas :o :wavey:
Oh yeah?? Well let me tell you I'm in training, I've been working out lyrically and if Fed doesn't win this French Open thing I'm coming out hardcore baby :devil:

forever_rafter
06-09-2006, 12:59 PM
I think Roger is gorgeous and I don't think I'm alone in this - he's not a classic himbo but he has a smouldering intensity and a well-dressed grown-up hotness that I really go for.


Rogi is gorgeous, especially in person :worship:

admiralpye
06-09-2006, 02:20 PM
I have to defer to Forever_rafter, seeing Roger in person really stunned me. He's simpatico. A looker! I wonder why it doesn't translate on TV. A clue to his looks would be the character of Simon (young doctor) in Joss Whedon's TV show "Firefly" or in the movie "Serenity."

Winston's Human
06-09-2006, 05:39 PM
:worship:

On the Mirka note I dont know how anyone could call her ugly. I personally think shes beautiful. Sure she has a few extra pounds on her but who cares? Its incredibly sad some of the posts ppl have made about Mirka. I dont know how you could write that without feeling like a complete idiot.

I too think Mirka is a beautiful woman. She has a classic beauty which will probably hold up over time.

What is clear is that she makes Roger happy. Does anything else matter?

Action Jackson
09-14-2006, 06:37 PM
Quality journalism.

RogiFan88
09-14-2006, 08:43 PM
I think Roger is gorgeous and I don't think I'm alone in this - he's not a classic himbo but he has a smouldering intensity and a well-dressed grown-up hotness that I really go for.

so who is the classic himbo?? I'm curious to know... :p

pistolmarat
09-14-2006, 09:16 PM
Mirka was/is sweet:lick:
Cyntha...:lol: should go for a gossip collumn:rolleyes:

BigAlbinoDonky
09-15-2006, 01:07 AM
Yet another reason that Roger is no comparison to Tiger Woods. Roger's woman is a beast who many would be ashamed to wake up with after a night of hard drinking, while Tiger has a ridiculously hot wife deserving of a world champion. Get rid of that cow Roger. Or if you're really just too stupid to handle your own affairs, keep her sheltered from the rest of the world so that she can't scar any more children's lives with her hideous giant ass. Imagine how those poor seats at all the tennis tourneys must feel after being sat on by that sasquatch-esque Mirka for hours at a time.

CmonAussie
09-15-2006, 01:16 AM
Yet another reason that Roger is no comparison to Tiger Woods. Roger's woman is a beast who many would be ashamed to wake up with after a night of hard drinking, while Tiger has a ridiculously hot wife deserving of a world champion. Get rid of that cow Roger. Or if you're really just too stupid to handle your own affairs, keep her sheltered from the rest of the world so that she can't scar any more children's lives with her hideous giant ass. Imagine how those poor seats at all the tennis tourneys must feel after being sat on by that sasquatch-esque Mirka for hours at a time.
:o You`re one cheeky & nasty bastard ~though I`ll admit I found your post quite amusing ;) ...
PS. Tiger Woods wife is not not hot :p ..#I`m merely a poor bastard battling away :sad: , unlike jugganaut Big Cat man :devil:-->> however my gilfriend is a 10/10 :angel: wheres Woods wife is more like a 6.5/10 :eek:

Johnny Groove
09-15-2006, 01:17 AM
Yet another reason that Roger is no comparison to Tiger Woods. Roger's woman is a beast who many would be ashamed to wake up with after a night of hard drinking, while Tiger has a ridiculously hot wife deserving of a world champion. Get rid of that cow Roger. Or if you're really just too stupid to handle your own affairs, keep her sheltered from the rest of the world so that she can't scar any more children's lives with her hideous giant ass. Imagine how those poor seats at all the tennis tourneys must feel after being sat on by that sasquatch-esque Mirka for hours at a time.

:haha: :haha: OMG!

IntimateStranger
09-15-2006, 01:22 AM
Yet another reason that Roger is no comparison to Tiger Woods. Roger's woman is a beast who many would be ashamed to wake up with after a night of hard drinking, while Tiger has a ridiculously hot wife deserving of a world champion. Get rid of that cow Roger. Or if you're really just too stupid to handle your own affairs, keep her sheltered from the rest of the world so that she can't scar any more children's lives with her hideous giant ass. Imagine how those poor seats at all the tennis tourneys must feel after being sat on by that sasquatch-esque Mirka for hours at a time.

:lol::lol::lol:

I don't particularly think Federer is some super hunk or anything like that, but I was shocked at how unattractive his girlfriend was when I saw her. I definitely saw him with some gorgeous model or something.

PamV
09-15-2006, 01:38 AM
...

No. 1 seed Roger Federer is the polar opposite, she says. He is quiet and does not party. He is under his girlfriend's thumb. He never goes out at night. "Although once I did see him at the Xiang Yang market in Shanghai where they sell only fakes - fake Rolex watches, fake Chanel sunglasses."

And Federer is difficult to photograph in Australia because he has very dark eyes and the angle of the sun here often makes it look like like he has no eyes at all. Which is not what a tennis photographer wants from the best tennis player in the world. Plus, she says, his play is so smooth, so polished. There's no rough edges to it. There is nothing that happens out of the blue.


Maybe Federer doesn't go out at night so he has a better chance of winning matches in the day???? Seems like common sense. I think Federer's dark sultry eyes look very sexy.....much better than someone with popping blue eyes.

liptea
09-15-2006, 01:55 AM
Yet another reason that Roger is no comparison to Tiger Woods. Roger's woman is a beast who many would be ashamed to wake up with after a night of hard drinking, while Tiger has a ridiculously hot wife deserving of a world champion. Get rid of that cow Roger. Or if you're really just too stupid to handle your own affairs, keep her sheltered from the rest of the world so that she can't scar any more children's lives with her hideous giant ass. Imagine how those poor seats at all the tennis tourneys must feel after being sat on by that sasquatch-esque Mirka for hours at a time.

:eek:

this takes female objectifying to a whole new level.



As a teenage girl, I'm really hurt when I'm told that it's my brain and talents that are important, but the messages I get from most guys (typical of your brainpower) inform me that the only useful thing about me is my body. If I'm not in a bikini or a short skirt, my intellect and intelligence doesn't matter. I could either show up in pounds of makeup or I could manage the number one player in the world and keep him well rested and driven. But obviously, number two doesn't matter if number one isn't present.

I'm sick of the sexualization of women. Obviously, Mirka's six years of devotion, beautiful face and dedication to Roger and his career doesn't matter, because she is not a bikini-clad and anorexic doll.

Why do guys like you look at a woman like a piece of poultry for consumption? Obviously, your penis thinks more clearly than your brain, and you're clearly happy with that, which I personally wouldn't be proud of. And when, one in four women is sexually harassed in America, men that think like you are also at fault. It's not about men like Roger, who I respect more because he ISN'T with some model of the week and chooses to stick with his girlfriend of several years. Your objectivication of women is linked to gruesome violence and gross stereotypes, because your attitude tells women like Mirka (beautiful, strong, dedicated and loyal) to be submissive and be treated like a purely sexual being.

And that sickens me.

Deboogle!.
09-15-2006, 02:06 AM
Niti, you're amazing. You're brilliant and talented and funny and also quite gorgeous, and if any man ever makes you feel any less than all those things, I will personally rip him apart :)

knight_ley
09-15-2006, 02:19 AM
:eek:

this takes female objectifying to a whole new level.



As a teenage girl, I'm really hurt when I'm told that it's my brain and talents that are important, but the messages I get from most guys (typical of your brainpower) inform me that the only useful thing about me is my body. If I'm not in a bikini or a short skirt, my intellect and intelligence doesn't matter. I could either show up in pounds of makeup or I could manage the number one player in the world and keep him well rested and driven. But obviously, number two doesn't matter if number one isn't present.

I'm sick of the sexualization of women. Obviously, Mirka's six years of devotion, beautiful face and dedication to Roger and his career doesn't matter, because she is not a bikini-clad and anorexic doll.

Why do guys like you look at a woman like a piece of poultry for consumption? Obviously, your penis thinks more clearly than your brain, and you're clearly happy with that, which I personally wouldn't be proud of. And when, one in four women is sexually harassed in America, men that think like you are also at fault. It's not about men like Roger, who I respect more because he ISN'T with some model of the week and chooses to stick with his girlfriend of several years. Your objectivication of women is linked to gruesome violence and gross stereotypes, because your attitude tells women like Mirka (beautiful, strong, dedicated and loyal) to be submissive and be treated like a purely sexual being.

And that sickens me.

This is why I love you more than anyone else on this earth. :worship:

BigAlbinoDonky
09-15-2006, 02:50 AM
Even though what you said is typical of something an ugly girl would say, you seem like a nice girl so i'll respond nicely.


As a teenage girl, I'm really hurt when I'm told that it's my brain and talents that are important, but the messages I get from most guys (typical of your brainpowe) inform me that the only useful thing about me my body.

Welcome to the real world. You shouldn't bother to be "really hurt" by the idiotic behavior of most guys, it isn't worth expending any emotion on. Then again, don't most girls want to just fall in love with a rich guy and live happily ever after? Is going for money any better than going for looks?(Note I said MOST girls, much like MOST guys are going for mainly looks)

Obviously, Mirka's six years of devotion, beautiful face and dedicated to Roger and his career doesn't matter, because she is not a bikini-clad and anorexic doll.

It's not so much that, as it is me poking fun at Roger for losing his balls and letting a woman dictate what he does. Guys bust each others' chops all the time for this sort of thing. Her being the relative shape of a hippo only compounds the fun.

Why do guys like you look at a woman like a piece of poultry for consumption?

Because that is our natural inclination, to some extent. If you have a great personality and aren't boring, then you're going to find guys and be able to keep them unless you're just really a dog. If you're hot with no personality, then often a guy will get tired of you.

And when, one in four women is sexually harassed in America, men that think like you are also at fault.

Don't come at me with that. Woman dress provocatively and expect for guys not to look or comment on it? Ridiculous. Most of the time it's just compliments being taken the wrong way. Now obviously there are guys who get out of hand with it and are totally inappropriate, and these idiots should be dealt with accordingly.

It's not about men like Roger, who I respect more because he ISN'T with some model of the week and chooses to stick with his girlfriend of several years. Your objectivication of women is linked to violence and gross stereotypes, because your attitude tells women like Mirka (beautiful, strong, dedicated and loyal) to be submissive and be treated like a purely sexual being.

Well that's great that you appreciate what you think you know about Roger. For all we know Roger could be force-feeding Mirka hot dogs and hamburgers, with several mistresses on the side(undoubtedly fatties too, as Roger seems to be into that). I agree with you on this though......I hope, for his sake, that Roger will never "treat Mirka like a purely sexual being", as that thought sickens ME more than any of my first post sickened you, trust me. Obviously Roger is in love with her, and that is what really matters. That's why they're still together even though she's turned into the equivalent of a depressed walrus. There isn't anything about "my thinking" that is causing violence, as I would never flog a woman for being fat. But you can overdramatize anything you want, you ladies are good at that(another true stereotype, awesome).

Johnny Groove
09-15-2006, 02:55 AM
:eek:

this takes female objectifying to a whole new level.



As a teenage girl, I'm really hurt when I'm told that it's my brain and talents that are important, but the messages I get from most guys (typical of your brainpower) inform me that the only useful thing about me is my body. If I'm not in a bikini or a short skirt, my intellect and intelligence doesn't matter. I could either show up in pounds of makeup or I could manage the number one player in the world and keep him well rested and driven. But obviously, number two doesn't matter if number one isn't present.

I'm sick of the sexualization of women. Obviously, Mirka's six years of devotion, beautiful face and dedication to Roger and his career doesn't matter, because she is not a bikini-clad and anorexic doll.

Why do guys like you look at a woman like a piece of poultry for consumption? Obviously, your penis thinks more clearly than your brain, and you're clearly happy with that, which I personally wouldn't be proud of. And when, one in four women is sexually harassed in America, men that think like you are also at fault. It's not about men like Roger, who I respect more because he ISN'T with some model of the week and chooses to stick with his girlfriend of several years. Your objectivication of women is linked to gruesome violence and gross stereotypes, because your attitude tells women like Mirka (beautiful, strong, dedicated and loyal) to be submissive and be treated like a purely sexual being.

And that sickens me.

As a straight teenage boy, I totally see where you are coming from. Ive seen guys treat these girls horribly. Saying things like "O, she got some fat lips, she sucks a good dick" etc. I wonder how it must feel being on the other side of the spectrum in a girl's shoes hearing things like that and feeling objectified. Of course, there are the girls that soak up the culture and stereotype and dress provocatively and do those things and dont think 2wice about it, as they think its the norm.

vesanto
09-15-2006, 03:01 AM
I must confess that I didn't have the time to read the previous posts in this thread so I don't know if this was already discusses but the part about Federer being controled by his wife is true and my question is: How would his game be affected by a break in their relationship? Would he be a new Agassi and fall down the rankings because he lost his main support? I guess that would be an interesting phenomenon to observe, specially for his competition. :devil:
But I really hope that if he has to break with her, only after winning 15 slams! :angel:

Sjengster
09-15-2006, 03:01 AM
Niti, you're amazing. You're brilliant and talented and funny and also quite gorgeous, and if any man ever makes you feel any less than all those things, I will personally rip him apart :)

Well I may have poked fun at a couple of her posts in the past, but all I can say is.... know thine enemy, Deb! :scared:

liptea
09-15-2006, 03:03 AM
Well I may have poked fun at a couple of her posts in the past, but all I can say is.... know thine enemy, Deb! :scared:

it's ok. I poke fun at my own posts.

Sjengster
09-15-2006, 03:08 AM
In all seriousness, no-one male or female should let the arseclownery of this Albino Donky (I suspect a different pack animal would describe him more appropriately) get to them. It's nothing but insipid and deeply unoriginal trolling. Nobody with any sense believes that The Mirk is hideous, or ever has been. Indeed, those of us who remember The Mirk from her brunette days in 2003 recall she was quite the looker, with a marked resemblance to the actress Catherine Keener. Sadly that likeness has receded somewhat with the onset of a blonde hairdo and a few more pounds, but she's hardly unattractive. I gather she once dissuaded Federer from dying his hair red... if she is running the show, that can hardly be a bad thing.

liptea
09-15-2006, 03:08 AM
In all seriousness, no-one male or female should let the arseclownery of this Albino Donky (I suspect a different pack animal would describe him more appropriately) get to them. It's nothing but insipid and deeply unoriginal trolling. Nobody with any sense believes that The Mirk is hideous, or ever has been. Indeed, those of us who remember The Mirk from her brunette days in 2003 recall she was quite the looker, with a marked resemblance to the actress Catherine Keener. Sadly that likeness has receded somewhat with the onset of a blonde hairdo and a few more pounds, but she's hardly unattractive. I gather she once dissuaded Federer from dying his hair red... if she is running the show, that can hardly be a bad thing.

:sad: the blond hair has GOT TO GO.

Sjengster
09-15-2006, 03:10 AM
:sad: the blond hair has GOT TO GO.

Hey, you miss The Mirk's brunette era, I miss Federer's ponytail days.... something always has to be sacrificed en route to the top. :sad:

liptea
09-15-2006, 03:11 AM
Hey, you miss The Mirk's brunette era, I miss Federer's ponytail days.... something always has to be sacrificed en route to the top. :sad:

:sad:

After he cut his hair, Rafa showed up. I bet he didn't count on that at the barber.

BigAlbinoDonky
09-15-2006, 03:11 AM
In all seriousness, no-one male or female should let the arseclownery of this Albino Donky (I suspect a different pack animal would describe him more appropriately) get to them. It's nothing but insipid and deeply unoriginal trolling. Nobody with any sense believes that The Mirk is hideous, or ever has been. Indeed, those of us who remember The Mirk from her brunette days in 2003 recall she was quite the looker, with a marked resemblance to the actress Catherine Keener. Sadly that likeness has receded somewhat with the onset of a blonde hairdo and a few more pounds, but she's hardly unattractive. I gather she once dissuaded Federer from dying his hair red... if she is running the show, that can hardly be a bad thing.

You totally set this one up.....

The only troll in this conversation is Mirka.

Sjengster
09-15-2006, 03:14 AM
:sad:

After he cut his hair, Rafa showed up. I bet he didn't count on that at the barber.

Nah, the first meeting between them was a clean thrashing in Miami 2004 in the ponytail era. Fortunately Federer managed to avoid the Samson effect with regard to his overall dominance of the game, but still... Agassi wouldn't have had anything to poke fun at in that IW tsunami exhibition last year if the pony were still in place. :mad:

Sjengster
09-15-2006, 03:15 AM
You totally set this one up.....

The only troll in this conversation is Mirka.

I am appropriately contrite at my failure to anticipate such a witty rejoinder.

liptea
09-15-2006, 03:16 AM
Nah, the first meeting between them was a clean thrashing in Miami 2004 in the ponytail era. Fortunately Federer managed to avoid the Samson effect with regard to his overall dominance of the game, but still... Agassi wouldn't have had anything to poke fun at in that IW tsunami exhibition last year if the pony were still in place. :mad:

I remember 04. I was having an awful day, and then me and my friends just thought it was so cool that Rafa won.

And I still say that Rafa is only good because of Carlos Moya's mentoring.;)

helen phillips
09-15-2006, 03:19 AM
Yet another reason to cannonize Agassi he was actually man enough to marry a peer rather than some eye candy to try to prove to other boys that he's a big man. Here's a tip if you pick your partner the same way you pick your car: to try (stress try) to make youreself look good to other people your an epic loser.

Anyone who thinks their house, car or partner's looks will make up for their woeful indaquecies (physical and otherwise) is only fooling themselves. Despite the scrutiny it would seem Roger Federer is secure enough to be more worried about his own happiness than the slack jawed judgements of arm chair sports fans whose achievments and maturity he overshadowed before he left the Junior ranks.

World Beater
09-15-2006, 03:19 AM
:haha:

what a donkey

liptea
09-15-2006, 03:21 AM
Yet another reason to cannonize Agassi he was actually man enough to marry a peer rather than some eye candy to try to prove to other boys that he's a big man. Here's a tip if you pick your partner the same way you pick your car: to try (stress try) to make youreself look good to other people your an epic loser.

Anyone who thinks their house, car or partner's looks will make up for their woeful indaquecies (physical and otherwise) is only fooling themselves. Despite the scrutiny it would seem Roger Federer is secure enough to be more worried about his own happiness than the slack jawed judgements of arm chair sports fans whose achievments and maturity he overshadowed before he left the Junior ranks.

holla.

hitchhiker
09-15-2006, 03:23 AM
http://www.weirdlittlebiscuit.com/images/b3ta/donkey.jpg

World Beater
09-15-2006, 03:25 AM
http://www.weirdlittlebiscuit.com/images/b3ta/donkey.jpg



:haha:

helen phillips
09-15-2006, 03:25 AM
You totally set this one up.....

The only troll in this conversation is Mirka.


hahahahahahahaha... that tiny eh? My condolences.

BigAlbinoDonky
09-15-2006, 03:29 AM
Oh ha ha guys. That donky is neither big, nor albino. I know all you bitter little girls are upset that a stud like myself isn't a chubby-chaser, but one day you'll find a guy that can appreciate each and every one of your jelly rolls.

soraya
09-15-2006, 03:41 AM
What for some is controlling behavior, for others is mutual respect and I think that the latter applies to Roger and Mirka's relationship.

lordmanji
09-15-2006, 03:42 AM
i just saw the fed-sampras 4th set at wimbledon and surprise surprise - Mirka was there. That gal was with federer before he got famous and i think thats why theyre still together.

A study was done recently and said something like married couples who get together during college are much more likely than those who find each other after college to divorce because theyve been through the formative years with each other.

helen phillips
09-15-2006, 03:45 AM
That donky is neither big, nor albino.

It isn't a surprise that your not Albino and most of us had already concluded from your posts that your not big (I'd wager miniscule and 'Im not only referring to your IQ). The first step is acceptance and again my condolences.

BigAlbinoDonky
09-15-2006, 03:47 AM
It isn't a surprise that your not Albino and most of us had already concluded from your posts that your not big (I'd wager miniscule and 'Im not only referring to your IQ). The first step is acceptance and again my condolences.

The ladies tell me that my 3 1/2 inches of mayhem bring the thunder every time, don't tell me what is or isn't big. And how do you know i'm not albino?

helen phillips
09-15-2006, 03:59 AM
The ladies tell me that my 3 1/2 inches of mayhem bring the thunder every time,

Darlin we lie.

don't tell me what is or isn't big.

Honey it seems your expertise is exclusively on the tiny end of the scale so somebody needs to explain it to you.

And how do you know i'm not albino?

I'm taking you at your word, whatever that's worth?

CmonAussie
09-15-2006, 04:10 AM
:eek:

this takes female objectifying to a whole new level.



As a teenage girl, I'm really hurt when I'm told that it's my brain and talents that are important, but the messages I get from most guys (typical of your brainpower) inform me that the only useful thing about me is my body. If I'm not in a bikini or a short skirt, my intellect and intelligence doesn't matter. I could either show up in pounds of makeup or I could manage the number one player in the world and keep him well rested and driven. But obviously, number two doesn't matter if number one isn't present.

I'm sick of the sexualization of women. Obviously, Mirka's six years of devotion, beautiful face and dedication to Roger and his career doesn't matter, because she is not a bikini-clad and anorexic doll.

Why do guys like you look at a woman like a piece of poultry for consumption? Obviously, your penis thinks more clearly than your brain, and you're clearly happy with that, which I personally wouldn't be proud of. And when, one in four women is sexually harassed in America, men that think like you are also at fault. It's not about men like Roger, who I respect more because he ISN'T with some model of the week and chooses to stick with his girlfriend of several years. Your objectivication of women is linked to gruesome violence and gross stereotypes, because your attitude tells women like Mirka (beautiful, strong, dedicated and loyal) to be submissive and be treated like a purely sexual being.

And that sickens me.
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
:cool: :cool:
:angel:
You`re 100% correct & I respect you for saying your piece ;)

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-15-2006, 04:13 AM
So Federer is whipped, no surprise he does play ballet tennis after all :D

This thread is becoming a feminist man bashing tutorial :rolleyes:

Girls never like guys for their look or money :rolleyes:
Female Power = Hypocrite Power. :D

Also funny that most feminists are Fedtards :eek: They like their men whipped and wussiefied. :D

CmonAussie
09-15-2006, 04:17 AM
So Federer is whipped, no surprise he does play ballet tennis after all :D

This thread is becoming a feminist man bashing tutorial :rolleyes:

Girls never like guys for their look or money :rolleyes:
Female Power = Hypocrite Power. :D

Also funny that most feminists are Fedtards :eek: They like their men whipped and wussiefied. :D
:wavey: :worship:
Being a man I can see what you`re saying ;) ...>>Some women want it both ways don`t they. IE.We`re expected to be gentlemen yet they`re not expected to be ladylike :( ..& as you pointed out many women are just as superficial as men---->>making some of them hypocrits in a big way :o

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-15-2006, 04:22 AM
Being a man I can see what you`re saying ...>>Some women want it both ways don`t they. IE.We`re expected to be gentlemen yet they`re not expected to be ladylike ..& as you pointed out many women are just as superficial as men---->>making some of them hypocrits in a big way

Thank You

These days guys are just villified over any little thing. I am still not sure if I should be chivalrous or treat them equal :confused:

mangoes
09-15-2006, 04:23 AM
I am still not sure if I should be chivalrous or treat them equal :confused:

How about both:shrug:

helen phillips
09-15-2006, 04:27 AM
:wavey: :worship:
Being a man I can see what you`re saying ;) ...>>Some women want it both ways don`t they. IE.We`re expected to be gentlemen yet they`re not expected to be ladylike :( ..& as you pointed out many women are just as superficial as men---->>making some of them hypocrits in a big way :o

Nobody asked to be put on a pedestal. Who here in word or action ever suggested women aren't just as multi-faceted as men? Women come in all kinds, good and bad, just like men.

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-15-2006, 04:30 AM
How about both

So I should treat you better but the same. :rolleyes:

Can't have your cake and eat it too. Pick one equal or special benifits. :D