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Sensational Saturday

Bolar Bolabi
01-20-2006, 07:03 AM
Parlay

Haas X Chela X Stosur @ $2.37

Bolar Bolabi
01-20-2006, 07:04 AM
Also:

Kiefer over Ferrero @ $1.90

I can see Ferrero's Aussie Campaign ending tomorrow.

TwistyServe
01-20-2006, 07:48 AM
Of all the matchupss I think Haas and Fedex are the only sure bet.

Learning towards Grosjean beating up double faulter coria and Healey upsetting Davydenko? Also like PHM over Horna for smaller wages.. I'll wait till all your analysis first :)

Definitely put Haas in some kind of combo :)

Bolar Bolabi
01-20-2006, 08:04 AM
I can see Healey upsetting Davydenko but it will more than likely be a 4 setter with Davydenko winning. Hopefully that's not the case. Some value in Healey at $7.


Stosur X Hingis X Haas X Vaidisova @ $2.29 is also a goer.

All should win!

bad gambler
01-20-2006, 08:59 AM
Not sure if I'm going to have time tomorrow so will share my thoughts now.

Recap on Friday, swept the board pending the small play on Lopez. Ferrer cashed easily, magician nearly made a meal of it and Vesnina outlasted her opponent. Nailed the sucker bet as well, fading Nieminen and got on big on bandy, rule number 1 in a GS is never back against class. Will be treating my bookie as an ATM tomorrow and buy my wife something nice.......

Anyway here we go for Saturday, all odds from pinny....

Coria to beat Grosjean - $2.55

An interesting matchup of two players with similar styles, both retreivers of the ball and both use their incredible foot speed to outlast their opponents, two of the best in the business. Coria has been flying under the radar both in the leadup and during the Open so far, he was brilliant at Kooyong and started off this GS rather shakily especially with his suspect serve tossing in a ridiculous 17 DF's against Hanescu and another 8 against Luzzi. However one thing I have been impressed with has been is first serve % which has been hovering around the mid 70% mark, a dramatic improvement to what he was serving at the back end of last year where he was serving a paultry 50% odd and accordingly struggled. The surface this year is pretty placid as well, slower than your usual rebound ace surface which suits his game. My only concern with this bet is Seba's ruthless efficicency in converting bp chances, that has always been a hallmark of his in his career. Given the long rallies that is going to occur during the match, coupled with the heat I see this one going the distance and if it does I'm liking my chances on one of the fittest players on tour.

Andreev to beat Hrbaty - $1.96

Hrbaty has been in dire form thus far this year, and his B2b 5 setters against some lowly opponents is not really great form coming into a match against a red hot andreev. I know hrbaty is an ironman, but consecutive 5 setters will test the limits of anyone. Andreev has the weapons to hurt the Dominator especially in the form of his FH and that should be enough for him to progress.

Kiefer to beat Ferrero - $2.04

Ferrero falls into the category of an "also ran" IMO, he has never been the same since his injuries sustained early 2004 and has not made much of impression in GS's as a result. He struggled to put away Tipsy last round, and in a way scraped through that due to his opponent's lack of experience if anything else. Kiefer's lead up form has been solid, bit lucky saving mp's against srichaphan in the 3rd set of that match before completely dominating the final 2 sets. His ankle I read seems to be ok, and provided his ankle does hold up, should drill the mosquito in 4 sets.


good luck

Bolar Bolabi
01-20-2006, 09:19 AM
Glad I'm not the only one on the German.

A Haas X Kiefer parlay has always won for me in the past and I can get it @ $2.18 so I'm going to play it too. I know it's dangerous having one player in 3 parlays, but there is no way Haas will lose to Luczak with the form Haas has been in.

You could be right there about Coria, BG - It will be a 5 setter I think so I will lay off because I don't want to bet on a match that will come down to the wire.

I agree with the Andreev call.

Good luck BG.

Is anyone with me on Chela @ $1.55?

The Gucci one
01-20-2006, 10:05 AM
Not sure if I'm going to have time tomorrow so will share my thoughts now.

Recap on Friday, swept the board pending the small play on Lopez. Ferrer cashed easily, magician nearly made a meal of it and Vesnina outlasted her opponent. Nailed the sucker bet as well, fading Nieminen and got on big on bandy, rule number 1 in a GS is never back against class. Will be treating my bookie as an ATM tomorrow and buy my wife something nice.......

Anyway here we go for Saturday, all odds from pinny....

Coria to beat Grosjean - $2.55

An interesting matchup of two players with similar styles, both retreivers of the ball and both use their incredible foot speed to outlast their opponents, two of the best in the business. Coria has been flying under the radar both in the leadup and during the Open so far, he was brilliant at Kooyong and started off this GS rather shakily especially with his suspect serve tossing in a ridiculous 17 DF's against Hanescu and another 8 against Luzzi. However one thing I have been impressed with has been is first serve % which has been hovering around the mid 70% mark, a dramatic improvement to what he was serving at the back end of last year where he was serving a paultry 50% odd and accordingly struggled. The surface this year is pretty placid as well, slower than your usual rebound ace surface which suits his game. My only concern with this bet is Seba's ruthless efficicency in converting bp chances, that has always been a hallmark of his in his career. Given the long rallies that is going to occur during the match, coupled with the heat I see this one going the distance and if it does I'm liking my chances on one of the fittest players on tour.

Andreev to beat Hrbaty - $1.96

Hrbaty has been in dire form thus far this year, and his B2b 5 setters against some lowly opponents is not really great form coming into a match against a red hot andreev. I know hrbaty is an ironman, but consecutive 5 setters will test the limits of anyone. Andreev has the weapons to hurt the Dominator especially in the form of his FH and that should be enough for him to progress.

Kiefer to beat Ferrero - $2.04

Ferrero falls into the category of an "also ran" IMO, he has never been the same since his injuries sustained early 2004 and has not made much of impression in GS's as a result. He struggled to put away Tipsy last round, and in a way scraped through that due to his opponent's lack of experience if anything else. Kiefer's lead up form has been solid, bit lucky saving mp's against srichaphan in the 3rd set of that match before completely dominating the final 2 sets. His ankle I read seems to be ok, and provided his ankle does hold up, should drill the mosquito in 4 sets.


good luck


BG with Coria having an average 1st serve speed of 138 kph vs Hanescu, and 144 against Luzzi I'd be worried that a quality player like Grosjean will have a field day breaking his serve?

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 10:41 AM
BG with Coria having an average 1st serve speed of 138 kph vs Hanescu, and 144 against Luzzi I'd be worried that a quality player like Grosjean will have a field day breaking his serve?

I agree there mate...but I'm concerned that Seb can't break Coria down in the rallies. No bet for me I think

Bolar Bolabi
01-20-2006, 11:43 AM
Missa K over Mauresmo @ $3.35

bad gambler
01-20-2006, 11:48 AM
BG with Coria having an average 1st serve speed of 138 kph vs Hanescu, and 144 against Luzzi I'd be worried that a quality player like Grosjean will have a field day breaking his serve?


Look at who remains in the draw, guys like ferrer and nalbandian do not possess a big serve, too much is made of the serve on this particular surface IMO

Ok those numbers are really low, but i don't see grosjean having enough quality returns to put coria on the backfoot immediately in the rally, if that happens no way seba outrallies weasel in general play.

JMG
01-20-2006, 12:08 PM
Kiefer said that his ankle doesn't feel better and that he still has to take pain killers. I didn't like how he moved against Srichaphan. You could see that he is not at 100%. Kiefer will be in trouble against Ferrero imo, so I won't bet on this.

Bolar Bolabi
01-20-2006, 12:09 PM
I'm liking BG's reasoning and his last post sums it up - but for me it's a no play. Grosjean has looked very decent so far.

shotgun
01-20-2006, 12:10 PM
Andreev over Hrbaty @ 1.81
Kiefer over Ferrero @ 2.05

Also going small on Vliegen to beat Chela @ 2.52 - Vliegen is a highly underrated player IMO and Chela, well, he played the match of his life against Hewitt and is not that reliable. There will be high expectations over him tomorrow and he may not be able to handle them well.

I will stay away at any costs from the match between Horna and Mathieu. Two completely unpredictable players and betting on this match would be like playing Russian roulette.

bad gambler
01-20-2006, 12:11 PM
I'm liking BG's reasoning and his last post sums it up - but for me it's a no play. Grosjean has looked very decent so far.


great, now i may as well rip up my betting slips :o

Bolar Bolabi
01-20-2006, 12:16 PM
great, now i may as well rip up my betting slips :o

How so?

I'm not playing it which means your bet is quite safe.

Put it this way. If i play it, it's Grosjean.

shotgun
01-20-2006, 12:16 PM
Kiefer said that his ankle doesn't feel better and that he still has to take pain killers. I didn't like how he moved against Srichaphan. You could see that he is not at 100%. Kiefer will be in trouble against Ferrero imo, so I won't bet on this.

Thanks. I may as well scrap it.

NewTennisFan
01-20-2006, 12:38 PM
With the decent odds on offer, I'm more than happy to take both Coria and Horna. In the case of Coria, well, he's the better player, and also the more consistent one (over time), and as for the Horna match... then seriously, how can PH "I'll go out with flying colours at any damn moment" Mathieu be worth 1.57 (or shorter, goddamit)? He's only got those odds because of his name and higher ranking. Horna can take him, and at longer than 2.25 he's a bargain.

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 12:59 PM
PHM. 'Nuff said.

NewTennisFan
01-20-2006, 01:15 PM
PHM. 'Nuff said.
You've always had this obsession with the Frenchman!

By the way, what does adee-gee mean? I've always wondered...

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 01:19 PM
You've always had this obsession with the Frenchman!

By the way, what does adee-gee mean? I've always wondered...
He always wins when I back him, that's why I've got my obsession! :D

adee-gee. Adam is my first name, but ppl used to call me Addy. There were a few Adam's at my school and my surname begins with the letter G. So I soon became Addy G. I thought adeegee looked better though (that was my original username but it got blocked so I made a new one with a - in the middle ;)

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 01:24 PM
Liking Coria more by the hour...if it is another hot day then I expect the Frenchman to be the first to wilt.

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 01:38 PM
Liking Coria more by the hour...if it is another hot day then I expect the Frenchman to be the first to wilt.
Only thing is, if I had Carla waiting for me I might purposely wilt so I could go and shag her senseless as quickly as possible :p

No seriously, I like Guille as well. I didn't expect his odds to be so high.

garylanders
01-20-2006, 02:00 PM
N.Kiefer - J.C.Ferrero 1 @2.10

P-H.Mathieu - L.Horna 1 @1.68

/GL

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 02:05 PM
Only thing is, if I had Carla waiting for me I might purposely wilt so I could go and shag her senseless as quickly as possible :p

No seriously, I like Guille as well. I didn't expect his odds to be so high.

:haha: Poor Carla - she has to go back to Weasel every night...and little does she know that you are practically peeking through her curtains :scared: :haha:

If Coria shows up, he should practically out-ground Grosjean. I'm a little bit concerned about Coria's serve though. Grosjean's serve is pretty good so he will get more cheap points.

I'll analyse the stats on the AusOpen website later and see whether Coria is worth it. :wavey:

TwistyServe
01-20-2006, 02:22 PM
Just placed my bets... feeling very good about tonight!

1.) Andreev over HrBrty @ 1.833 -- Biggest wager so far! Agree with BG! After HrBrts two marathon matches against lower oponents I dont think he can outlast an inform Andreev!

2.) Healey over Davydenko @ 8.750 -- Small wager only.. couldn't resist those odds. Healey played great last match, was a big underdog on the odds as is this time. Won big on him last match hoping to do the same!

3.) PHM x Haas @ 1.933 -- Medium wager.. PHM is a hot/cold player but I hope he can remain hot

4.) Haas x Hingis x Stosur x Vaidisova @ 2.388 -- took this bet straight from Bolar and I like it very much! All big time favorites can't see anyone having trouble with their match. Feels safe but hell nothing is safe really :eek: -- Medium wager

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 02:25 PM
Just placed my bets... feeling very good about tonight!

1.) Andreev over HrBrty @ 1.833 -- Biggest wager so far!
2.) Healey over Davydenko @ 8.750 -- Small wager only.. couldn't resist those odds
3.) PHM x Haas @ 1.933 -- Medium wager.. PHM is a hot/cold player but I hope he can remain hot
4.) Haas x Hingis x Stosur x Vaidisova @ 2.388 -- took this bet straight from Bolar and I like it very much! All big time favorites can't see anyone having trouble with their match. Feels safe but hell nothing is safe really :eek: -- Medium wager

1. Well you're improving - getting closer to spelling Dominator's name corrrectly by the day ;) :lol:

2. Class will show in the Davydenko match I think

3. I respect your balls for playing a PHM match ;)

4. Geez...never take anything from Bolar :tape: ...you won't go wrong with Haas anyway - he has blessed him at any rate :)

TwistyServe
01-20-2006, 02:39 PM
1. Well you're improving - getting closer to spelling Dominator's name corrrectly by the day ;) :lol:


Ha Ha!

I was thinkin of taking to coria bet but that looks to be a coin toss too. And althought Coria is probably going to win, my stomach can't bare watching him throw double faults with $$$ on the line. Rather just enjoy watching the match and watching him in double fault. GL on that bet! :D

Mistaflava
01-20-2006, 02:56 PM
2006 ATP Tennis Record: 10-2 (+$2312)


A perfect 3-0 on Thursday night. Keep in mind, all my wagers are on plays -199 (1.51 or less. No big juice and no big favorites or huge dogs. This is all about the value matches and so far the season has been great.

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Round 3: Saturday, January 21, 2006



Dominik Hrbaty +105 over Igor Andreev ($300 to win $305)

This is a very simple play that actually required less than 5 minutes of my time to decide who I was betting on. Most of the public is going to fade the Dominator because he played a gruelling 5-set match against Dick Norman in Round 2 and the perception is that he will be too tired to win here. Isn't that the same attitude everyone had when betting against Jarkko in last week's Auckland Final? If anything, the win over Norman gave Dominator a huge boost in confidence and facing Andreev will be a step down for him. Andreev is a succesful clay courter but not a succesful hard courter. He has never been this far in any hardcourt Grand Slam and I don't expect him to make the jump to the next level. Hrbaty on the other hand is a very succesful career hardcourter who has been to the 4th Round four times and Quarter-Finals twice at the Australian Open. This match is not going to end in 3 sets...we all know that. Therefore, Dominiki Hrbaty has the edge as he is 5-1 in five-setters the last three seasons and 8-2 in four or five-setters over the last two years. Both players are coming off long five set matches. Andreev made 48 unforced errors against Sluiter, while Hrbaty made 43 against Norman. Sluiter had a lot of success with net approaches, which is something Hrbaty is very good at and will probably use against Andreev. This is a risky match but I like Dominator's experience and toughness.



Juan Ignacio Chela -178 over Kristof Vliegen ($1780 to win $1000)

The last time we saw Vliegen he made us some big time money and so did Chela for anyone who put money on him against Hewitt. These two are coming from different worlds here. Vliegen almost blew the match against Verdasco several times but the Spaniard doesn't have a head on his shoulders and was probably more concerned with the way he looks with sweat dripping down his face. Verdasco should have taken Vliegen out but he didn't. Chela made me money in Round 1 when he knocked off Andy Murray and hopefully his level of intensity is the same here and he comes out firing. Chela has more success in his career on the claycourts but he has also been good on hardcourts. Vliegen seriously lacks the experience to be this far in a Grand Slam and this is the end of the road for him. In his match against Verdasco, Vliegen made a whopping 51 unforced errors and had only 34 winners. That won't work in this match because Chela made only 34 unforced errors and had 49 winners against Hewitt. Chela has a very accurate 2nd serve this week which will be important in a match like this. I think Chela wins in straight sets.



:eek:

Mistaflava
01-20-2006, 02:58 PM
Again you guys talk about marathon matches for Hrbaty but that doesn’t really matter. We all thought the same thing with Jarkko in Auckland and how he was finished and couldn’t beat Ancic because he was too tired. Wasn’t the case. Good Luck all Andreev backers.


;)

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 03:04 PM
2006 ATP Tennis Record: 10-2 (+$2312)


A perfect 3-0 on Thursday night. Keep in mind, all my wagers are on plays -199 (1.51 or less. No big juice and no big favorites or huge dogs. This is all about the value matches and so far the season has been great.

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Round 3: Saturday, January 21, 2006



Dominik Hrbaty +105 over Igor Andreev ($300 to win $305)

This is a very simple play that actually required less than 5 minutes of my time to decide who I was betting on. Most of the public is going to fade the Dominator because he played a gruelling 5-set match against Dick Norman in Round 2 and the perception is that he will be too tired to win here. Isn't that the same attitude everyone had when betting against Jarkko in last week's Auckland Final? If anything, the win over Norman gave Dominator a huge boost in confidence and facing Andreev will be a step down for him. Andreev is a succesful clay courter but not a succesful hard courter. He has never been this far in any hardcourt Grand Slam and I don't expect him to make the jump to the next level. Hrbaty on the other hand is a very succesful career hardcourter who has been to the 4th Round four times and Quarter-Finals twice at the Australian Open. This match is not going to end in 3 sets...we all know that. Therefore, Dominiki Hrbaty has the edge as he is 5-1 in five-setters the last three seasons and 8-2 in four or five-setters over the last two years. Both players are coming off long five set matches. Andreev made 48 unforced errors against Sluiter, while Hrbaty made 43 against Norman. Sluiter had a lot of success with net approaches, which is something Hrbaty is very good at and will probably use against Andreev. This is a risky match but I like Dominator's experience and toughness.



Juan Ignacio Chela -178 over Kristof Vliegen ($1780 to win $1000)

The last time we saw Vliegen he made us some big time money and so did Chela for anyone who put money on him against Hewitt. These two are coming from different worlds here. Vliegen almost blew the match against Verdasco several times but the Spaniard doesn't have a head on his shoulders and was probably more concerned with the way he looks with sweat dripping down his face. Verdasco should have taken Vliegen out but he didn't. Chela made me money in Round 1 when he knocked off Andy Murray and hopefully his level of intensity is the same here and he comes out firing. Chela has more success in his career on the claycourts but he has also been good on hardcourts. Vliegen seriously lacks the experience to be this far in a Grand Slam and this is the end of the road for him. In his match against Verdasco, Vliegen made a whopping 51 unforced errors and had only 34 winners. That won't work in this match because Chela made only 34 unforced errors and had 49 winners against Hewitt. Chela has a very accurate 2nd serve this week which will be important in a match like this. I think Chela wins in straight sets.



:eek:

Yeah you are right with Hrbaty man...didn't realise his record was so good here actually. But he did wilt badly against Safin last year after he struggled through the early stages...I'm waiting for a big player to come and take him out...it will either be Andreev, or Federer in the QF ;)

Good points on Chela...he has the greater experience, and I'm inclined to disagree with you slightly on one point...he is better on hardcourts than clay. Certainly if last year's record is anything to go by!

TwistyServe
01-20-2006, 03:21 PM
2006 ATP Tennis Record: 10-2 (+$2312)
Juan Ignacio Chela -178 over Kristof Vliegen ($1780 to win $1000)


This sounds like a great play.. but straight sets!?! Maybe I'm going to have to make a deposit for this wager as all my coins are locked hehe. :devil:

TwistyServe
01-20-2006, 03:27 PM
Yeah you are right with Hrbaty man...didn't realise his record was so good here actually. But he did wilt badly against Safin last year after he struggled through the early stages...I'm waiting for a big player to come and take him out...it will either be Andreev, or Federer in the QF ;)

Good points on Chela...he has the greater experience, and I'm inclined to disagree with you slightly on one point...he is better on hardcourts than clay. Certainly if last year's record is anything to go by!

You have any idea what your lean is for tonight? I think if you back chela I might make a deposit :angel:

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 03:29 PM
You have any idea what your lean is for tonight? I think if you back chela I might make a deposit :angel:

I will provide the plays within the next 5 hours mate...I'll need to some deep analysis on some of the matches...

...Chela stands out as one, but you never know, there may be some other equally good ones ;)

olix
01-20-2006, 03:32 PM
Including Hingis in a parlay tonight might not be very safe, if the "class will show" like it did in the Benesova/Pierce match.

TwistyServe
01-20-2006, 03:39 PM
Including Hingis in a parlay tonight might not be very safe, if the "class will show" like it did in the Benesova/Pierce match.

I watched the pierce match and she was a stinker and still fought hard for a decently close match. Pierce had 40+ unforced errors. Pretty confident hingis will pull through 6-2, 6-2 type score..

Mistaflava
01-20-2006, 04:37 PM
Vliegen was so shaky against Verdasco but the Spaniard was just terrible and he didn't take any of the easy opportunities to knock Vliegen out. Chela is on his game and Vliegen doesn't stand a chance in my opinion.


:eek:

TwistyServe
01-20-2006, 05:10 PM
Screw it! :devil:

Placed the deposit.

Add: Chela over Kristof ($300 to win $165)

They also gave me $60 bonus dollars for the deposit..

Add: Kiefer over Ferrero ($60 to win $60)

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 05:17 PM
If Coria shows up, he should practically out-ground Grosjean. I'm a little bit concerned about Coria's serve though. Grosjean's serve is pretty good so he will get more cheap points.

I'll analyse the stats on the AusOpen website later and see whether Coria is worth it. :wavey:
Grosjean's first serve % has been low for a long time, I think Guille will take advantage of this. Once they're in a rally, I give Guille the 60-40 edge.

JMG
01-20-2006, 06:52 PM
Stosur x Mauresmo @1.65
Hrbaty @1.85
Haas x Chela @1.67

TwistyServe
01-20-2006, 07:00 PM
Got any picks going today Grinder?

Nimrodg
01-20-2006, 07:16 PM
If someone got bookie that won't count bet as void if player retries should back Vinci...according to what i've heard there are not so bad chances that Kim will withdrew

bad gambler
01-20-2006, 07:39 PM
Again you guys talk about marathon matches for Hrbaty but that doesn’t really matter. We all thought the same thing with Jarkko in Auckland and how he was finished and couldn’t beat Ancic because he was too tired. Wasn’t the case. Good Luck all Andreev backers.


;)


with hrbaty it is a form issue more than the fact that he has played B2B five setters - anyone who is forced to play 5 sets against Norman should not be favourite next round

gl anyway mate

Mistaflava
01-20-2006, 07:57 PM
with hrbaty it is a form issue more than the fact that he has played B2B five setters - anyone who is forced to play 5 sets against Norman should not be favourite next round

gl anyway mate



going five sets with Sluiter is just about the same if you ask me. Big Dick was having a decent tournament for some reason.


:eek:

coup3z
01-20-2006, 07:59 PM
Luczak+7 X Chela @ 2.68 easy money !

Grinder
01-20-2006, 08:05 PM
Lost with Lopez and Ancic yesterday, but softened the hit to $32 with Santoro.

Nicolas Kiefer over Juan Carlos Ferrero @ +110 - $1364 to win $1500

I'm feeling really good about this one, Kiefer is a much superior player at this point in his career. Ferrero got stretched to five sets by Tipseravic and the latter stages of Kiefer's match showed signs of great form and confidence. The crazy German has shown that he has no problems dispatching top 10 players, let alone top 20 with straight set crushings of the likes of Nalbandian, Gaudio, Davydenko, Safin, etc. Kiefer has also shown that he's one of the few people that can consistently take sets of Federer. Ferrero shouldn't have too much confidence on early form with a loss to Chris Guccione. Let's face it, if Chris Guccione can break your serve, anyone can. I'm feeling Kiefer in straight sets, maybe four.

Small wagers of the day:
Max Mirnyi over Roger Federer @ +2500 - $80 to win $2000
Andreev x Grosjean x Chela x Hingis @ +468 - $250 to win $1200

Good luck to everyone.

TwistyServe
01-20-2006, 08:09 PM
Lost with Lopez and Ancic yesterday, but softened the hit to $32 with Santoro.

Nicolas Kiefer over Juan Carlos Ferrero @ +110 - $1364 to win $1500

Good luck to everyone.

Big wager.. GL

Grinder
01-20-2006, 08:10 PM
Yeah man, I'm really nervous with that one, but I think Kiefer should pull through. I'm not sure, I might do some set betting later on today.

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 08:35 PM
I can tell you one thing....Horna is looking better than PHM this tournament.

He has played 2 good players, is more solid in the rallies and is only undone slightly by PHM on the serve front.

PHM has played 2 fairly useless players, goes for his shots in the rallies (hits roughly 50/50 winners/ues) and is fairly strong on serve.

PHM's first serve % is woeful - and Horna has been the better returner

Horna is the better player.

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 09:16 PM
Grosjean's 1st serve may not be good, but he has been yielding FAR better results than Coria on serve. Coria is a fair bit better at cracking winners...but nothing else. This match has Seb written over it as winner.

TwistyServe
01-20-2006, 09:22 PM
Grosjean's 1st serve may not be good, but he has been yielding FAR better results than Coria on serve. Coria is a fair bit better at cracking winners...but nothing else. This match has Seb written over it as winner.

hehe I thought you were going with coria, now its seb?

I honestly think this match is a coin-flip slightly coria's favor, but if he starts choking up the serves then its back to coin-flip.

Something seriously happened to Coria's serve I think starting around the USO last year. How he got as deep as he did at USO is amazing.

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 09:23 PM
I can tell you one thing....Horna is looking better than PHM this tournament.

He has played 2 good players, is more solid in the rallies and is only undone slightly by PHM on the serve front.

PHM has played 2 fairly useless players, goes for his shots in the rallies (hits roughly 50/50 winners/ues) and is fairly strong on serve.

PHM's first serve % is woeful - and Horna has been the better returner

Horna is the better player.
Jez how much have you had to drink tonight :confused:

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 09:24 PM
Grosjean's 1st serve may not be good, but he has been yielding FAR better results than Coria on serve. Coria is a fair bit better at cracking winners...but nothing else. This match has Seb written over it as winner.
Make up your mind sunshine :cool:

flmmkrz
01-20-2006, 09:24 PM
I know most of us are anti wta betting here but is anyone else loving Myskina over Arvidsson. At 1.5 it seems to be a gift from the books. Myskina holds a 2-0 lifetime and while she's been shaky is a few notches better than Sofia.

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 09:25 PM
I know most of us are anti wta betting here but is anyone else loving Myskina over Arvidsson. At 1.4 it seems to be a gift from the books. Myskina holds a 2-0 lifetime and while she's been shaky is a few notches better than Sofia.
I'd agree....but Myskina = :cuckoo: she should win, but don't be surprised if she doesn't.

shotgun
01-20-2006, 09:26 PM
Previous analysis is useless when we're talking about a match between Lucho and PHM. :p

LeoSK
01-20-2006, 09:29 PM
Misa Krajicek against Mauresmo for 3.00 is very tempting for me today, what do you think?
Krajicek has 8-0 winning streak this year, beating several great players (Mirza, Benesova). On the other hand Mauresmo struggled against two mediocre players (Tian Sun, Emilie Loit). It looks like 3 setter, maybe with happy ending for the Dutch.

bad gambler
01-20-2006, 09:31 PM
Grosjean's 1st serve may not be good, but he has been yielding FAR better results than Coria on serve. Coria is a fair bit better at cracking winners...but nothing else. This match has Seb written over it as winner.


if it is that straight forward, take the frenchie then, nice odds.....

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 09:34 PM
Gordon Bennett! Looking at stats isn't good for you...

...Hrbaty over Andreev looks safe. Only thing I'm concerned about is Hrbaty's fitness. The fact that he gave away the 2/0 set lead may be slightly better as he probably let go a little. If he came back from 0/2 sets then he would probably have used more energy.

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 09:35 PM
Jez how much have you had to drink tonight :confused:

:haha: Sober as a judge...unfortunately ;)

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 09:36 PM
hehe I thought you were going with coria, now its seb?

I honestly think this match is a coin-flip slightly coria's favor, but if he starts choking up the serves then its back to coin-flip.

Something seriously happened to Coria's serve I think starting around the USO last year. How he got as deep as he did at USO is amazing.

Yah - I always change my mind! ;)

Not playing this match or Mathieu...could go either way.

Might play Hrbaty.

Most likely Chela x Haas

flmmkrz
01-20-2006, 09:40 PM
I'd agree....but Myskina = :cuckoo: she should win, but don't be surprised if she doesn't.

nothing surprises me in the womens game anymore but you gotta take your chances when the values there

mini bad gambler
01-20-2006, 09:40 PM
Sebastien Grosjean @ 1.61
Juan-Ignacio Chela @ 1.50
Tommy Haas @ 1.11
Nicolas Kiefer @ 1.83
Nikolay Davydenko @ 1.06
Roger Federer @ 1.01

:awww:

TwistyServe
01-20-2006, 09:42 PM
Sebastien Grosjean @ 1.61
Juan-Ignacio Chela @ 1.50
Tommy Haas @ 1.11
Nicolas Kiefer @ 1.83
Nikolay Davydenko @ 1.06
Roger Federer @ 1.01

:awww:

Nice strong picks. I think Healey could give niko a problem and I've seen nik lose some easy matches. Why federer bet? Free money?

TwistyServe
01-20-2006, 09:42 PM
nothing surprises me in the womens game anymore but you gotta take your chances when the values there

Exactly. Anything can happen there. You can take on a heavy favorite and they'll lose 6-1, 6-2.

I was close to waging against demenchieva first round but didn't. Either way I wouldnt put much of a bet on it as no confidence in the result.

Bolar Bolabi
01-20-2006, 09:55 PM
Misa Krajicek against Mauresmo for 3.00 is very tempting for me today, what do you think?
Krajicek has 8-0 winning streak this year, beating several great players (Mirza, Benesova). On the other hand Mauresmo struggled against two mediocre players (Tian Sun, Emilie Loit). It looks like 3 setter, maybe with happy ending for the Dutch.

That's why I've played it.

Mauresmo sucks!

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 10:03 PM
:haha: Sober as a judge...unfortunately ;)
I've had a fair few. Shutup and get on Guille, PHM and JCF ;)

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 10:04 PM
nothing surprises me in the womens game anymore but you gotta take your chances when the values there
Yeah I agree. That's why you should pound PHM ;)

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 10:05 PM
Roger Federer @ 1.01
Surely you didn't put money on that.

Bolar Bolabi
01-20-2006, 10:06 PM
4. Geez...never take anything from Bolar :tape: ...you won't go wrong with Haas anyway - he has blessed him at any rate :)

Read it and weep.

Bolar Bolabi
01-20-2006, 10:06 PM
Surely you didn't put money on that.

:haha:

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 10:08 PM
Read it and weep.

:confused:

Advantage
01-20-2006, 10:08 PM
Play #44

http://www.sportsadvisory.com/44play.gif

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 10:09 PM
Jez have you backed Guille, JCF and PHM yet?

TwistyServe
01-20-2006, 10:12 PM
Jez have you backed Guille, JCF and PHM yet?

I think jez is flipping sides and now he can't decide if he wants heads or tails. heheh

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 10:12 PM
Jez have you backed Guille, JCF and PHM yet?

If I played the PHM match then I'd go on Horna... ;)

No...I'm not playing any of those 3 matches:

1. Coria's serve is crap but he can beat Grosjean in the rallies. Grosjean is a good returner and could kill the serve = 50/50

JCF - both players injured.

PHM - not willing to back either as they have the mental toughness of a goldfish

Happy punting on them ;)

Mistaflava
01-20-2006, 10:12 PM
great betting night tonight guys


good luck to all



;)

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 10:13 PM
Likely to be 2 singles...

Chela and Hrbaty.

flmmkrz
01-20-2006, 10:13 PM
Yeah I agree. That's why you should pound PHM ;)

alright gee, lets roll with PHM then. :cool:

Bolar Bolabi
01-20-2006, 10:15 PM
:confused:

Well you said never take anything from Bolar and if it wins......

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 10:18 PM
Well you said never take anything from Bolar and if it wins......

...but I did say you had blessed Haas ;)

flmmkrz
01-20-2006, 10:20 PM
Locked in on Myskina to pound the chubby looking swede
PHM to take out Horna
The weasel over Seb
and a why not on Healey over Davydenko

and a small fun parlay on Chela x Haas x Schnyder x Fed x PHM s Myskina x Hingis x Coria

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 10:23 PM
If I played the PHM match then I'd go on Horna... ;)

No...I'm not playing any of those 3 matches:

1. Coria's serve is crap but he can beat Grosjean in the rallies. Grosjean is a good returner and could kill the serve = 50/50

JCF - both players injured.

PHM - not willing to back either as they have the mental toughness of a goldfish

Happy punting on them ;)
Your loss :ras:

What the hell are you backing then? Make up your mind son!

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 10:23 PM
alright gee, lets roll with PHM then. :cool:
:rocker2: when I back PHM, he wins. It's a fact of life.

Advantage
01-20-2006, 10:23 PM
Play #45

http://www.sportsadvisory.com/45play.gif

Bolar Bolabi
01-20-2006, 10:25 PM
If you're going to do a good fun parlay:

Coria X Healey X Haas X Missa K @ $69

I'm not going to play it though.

Bolar Bolabi
01-20-2006, 10:25 PM
...but I did say you had blessed Haas ;)

True

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 10:26 PM
Locked in on Myskina to pound the chubby looking swede
PHM to take out Horna
The weasel over Seb
and a why not on Healey over Davydenko

and a small fun parlay on Chela x Haas x Schnyder x Fed x PHM s Myskina x Hingis x Coria
I like your thinking Billy Boy. Which is probably not a good thing the way my luck's been going :scared:

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 10:26 PM
Okay...my plays for tonight after much deliberation:

Chela @ 1.50
Hrbaty @ 1.83

Analysis: http://www.triplethreatsports777.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8750#post8750

Good luck! :yeah:

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 10:31 PM
Jez makes up his mind. Praise the lord! :p

flmmkrz
01-20-2006, 10:31 PM
If you're going to do a good fun parlay:

Coria X Healey X Haas X Missa K @ $69

I'm not going to play it though.

Fun or not you want it to have a chance in hell. I got healey in a single anyway.

flmmkrz
01-20-2006, 10:32 PM
I like your thinking Billy Boy. Which is probably not a good thing the way my luck's been going :scared:

lol yeah that day you liked the card I did too and took almost the same losses you did. We're either gonna lose a bunch or be really happy later

mini bad gambler
01-20-2006, 10:38 PM
is keifer injured???

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 10:47 PM
lol yeah that day you liked the card I did too and took almost the same losses you did. We're either gonna lose a bunch or be really happy later
It was horrible. Hopefully today is payback.

Allez PHM :inlove:

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 10:48 PM
Good luck to you Adam...I fear that your love for PHM has deluded you now ;)

TwistyServe
01-20-2006, 10:53 PM
is keifer injured???

His ankle or something close to there may have been bothering him but it seems okay. He still beat few opponents with the "injury".

Doctor Dance
01-20-2006, 10:53 PM
i think todays card is very tough...

just a small bet on chela for me

all the best

adee-gee
01-20-2006, 10:55 PM
Good luck to you Adam...I fear that your love for PHM has deluded you now ;)
:ras: that was suggested when PHM played Gonzo and had odds of 4.00 and PHM wiped the floor with him :hearts:

sports freak
01-20-2006, 10:59 PM
with hrbaty it is a form issue more than the fact that he has played B2B five setters - anyone who is forced to play 5 sets against Norman should not be favourite next round

gl anyway mate

The DOM is GOOD ;) but insayin soo,Igor Andreev for me aswell,dont under estimate this guy n if he goes to 4th or 5th sets he is the fresher of the two n like BG has the weapons to hurt Dom while his not on top of his game atm :) Chela all the way,too fresh atm n should win in 4 sets!!!!

Bolar Bolabi
01-20-2006, 11:00 PM
Good luck everyone for today.

I've decided to go with singles on the following.

Hrbaty over Andreev @ $1.93

PHM over Horna @ $1.67

Grosjean over Coria @ $1.57

sports freak
01-20-2006, 11:02 PM
Andreev x Grosjean x Chela x Hingis @ +468 - $250 to win $1200

Very nice parlay Grinder,good luck with it!!!Or should i say cash it,lol!!!

sports freak
01-20-2006, 11:24 PM
Just a parlay 2day!!!!

30 units on Juan Ignacious Chela 1.45/Stosur 1.28 @1.85- Was gonna add Schynder 1.23 to make it 2.28 but playin it safe!!!!

20 units on Igor Andreev 1.80 over Dom the machine Hrbaty- This will go to minimum of 4 sets therefor the machine will need service!!!!

Good luck!!!!Other leans on Seba Frenchmen Grosjean!!!!Ardviddson 2.60

LeoSK
01-20-2006, 11:36 PM
Just a parlay 2day!!!!
20 units on Igor Andreev 1.80 over Dom the machine Hrbaty- This will go to minimum of 4 sets therefor the machine will need service!!!!


Dominik never needs service, this is not going to be about physical condition today. If yes, then on Andrejev's side.

Horatio Caine
01-20-2006, 11:43 PM
All going to plan for Lucho ;)

sports freak
01-21-2006, 12:03 AM
Dominik never needs service, this is not going to be about physical condition today. If yes, then on Andrejev's side.

:confused: See me in a few hrs ;)

adee-gee
01-21-2006, 12:23 AM
All going to plan for Lucho ;)
It was, until my magic powers started to work :haha:

Horatio Caine
01-21-2006, 12:25 AM
It was, until my magic powers started to work :haha:

...and that is precisely why I didn't bet on this match...a combination of PHM, you and an imbecile Peruvian ;) :haha:

PHM will win now...what a shocker by Lucho! :tape:

flmmkrz
01-21-2006, 12:25 AM
Myskina is money

adee-gee
01-21-2006, 12:33 AM
...and that is precisely why I didn't bet on this match...a combination of PHM, you and an imbecile Peruvian ;) :haha:

PHM will win now...what a shocker by Lucho! :tape:
:haha:

PHM :inlove:

TwistyServe
01-21-2006, 12:35 AM
TODAY IS $$$$...

adee-gee
01-21-2006, 12:41 AM
Coria is injured.

flmmkrz
01-21-2006, 12:45 AM
Coria is injured.

please say hes withdrawing then

TwistyServe
01-21-2006, 12:47 AM
please say hes withdrawing then

Chance are he'll limp around for another set and then try to come back like at the FO.

adee-gee
01-21-2006, 12:49 AM
please say hes withdrawing then
They've left the match. Basically he wasn't chasing anything. He looked totally devoid of energy. But now he's a break up in the 3rd :confused:

They've switched to Mauresmo :rolleyes:

shotgun
01-21-2006, 12:57 AM
Chela is on fire. Pretty stupid of me to back Vliegen. It was only a small amount though. ;)

Andreev is doing fine on the other hand. :)

flmmkrz
01-21-2006, 12:57 AM
Coria looks to be handing the break right back, i'll take the withdrawl here for a push.

flmmkrz
01-21-2006, 12:59 AM
guess I was wrong from 0- 40 to holding

Horatio Caine
01-21-2006, 12:59 AM
Dom obviously hopes he will be allowed another marathon :mad:

...not so sure Igor will want to oblige :smash:

Horatio Caine
01-21-2006, 01:01 AM
:haha:

PHM :inlove:

Seriously man...I need to borrow your gipsy curse for tonight :devil:

TwistyServe
01-21-2006, 01:03 AM
Andreev x Grosjean x Chela x Hingis @ +468 - $250 to win $1200

Very nice parlay Grinder,good luck with it!!!Or should i say cash it,lol!!!

Seriously dude grinder, you play some risk, but you are getting them right too.. Looks like this parley may just hit! :worship: .. My only comment: Shoulda added Haas too! He's a lock!

shotgun
01-21-2006, 01:04 AM
...and that is precisely why I didn't bet on this match...a combination of PHM, you and an imbecile Peruvian ;) :haha:

PHM will win now...what a shocker by Lucho! :tape:

Come on, this match will still endure some more u-turns. Nothing is certain there. ;)

TwistyServe
01-21-2006, 01:15 AM
:rocker2: when I back PHM, he wins. It's a fact of life.

:worship: :worship: :worship:

adee-gee
01-21-2006, 01:16 AM
PHM wins the 2nd set tie break 9-7 after being 4-1 down in the set :rolls:

shotgun
01-21-2006, 01:16 AM
yeah.. PHM leads 7-6 7-6. Can't see Horna coming back now.

TwistyServe
01-21-2006, 01:32 AM
yeah.. PHM leads 7-6 7-6. Can't see Horna coming back now.

Suspecting this last set goes 6-1 type score. I dont think Horna has the will to fight back from two sets down after being so close in both sets.

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 01:33 AM
Chela is having a few troubles in the second set!

adee-gee
01-21-2006, 01:34 AM
Coria receiving treatment on his left wrist, he looks in trouble.

PHM :inlove:

Grinder
01-21-2006, 01:42 AM
The reason I didn't add Haas was because his odds were so low, it wouldn't really make much of a difference and I don't even want to take an extra 10% percent risk of Luczack getting lucky under the home crowd. ;)

Parlay is looking good right now. :D

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 01:42 AM
Grosjean has the break but will Coria retire?

Grosjean will either run away with this set and match or Coria will retire.

Time will tell.

adee-gee
01-21-2006, 01:43 AM
Grosjean has the break but will Coria retire?

Grosjean will either run away with this set and match or Coria will retire.

Time will tell.
Coria can barely hold the racket, I have no idea why he's playing on. I lose my bet whatever happens now :shrug:

PHM :inlove:

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 01:46 AM
PHM is running away with it.

For us that put our $$$$ on PHM to win, lets have a beer or two.

TwistyServe
01-21-2006, 01:50 AM
The reason I didn't add Haas was because his odds were so low, it wouldn't really make much of a difference and I don't even want to take an extra 10% percent risk of Luczack getting lucky under the home crowd. ;)

Parlay is looking good right now. :D

Ya man your parley looks like a lock!

Mine looks pretty good too.. just need Haas and Stosur to win! Hingis and Vaidisova did their part.. Thanks to Bolar :)

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 01:52 AM
If Coria doesnt' retire, I feel sorry for the people who had $$$ on him.

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 01:53 AM
All my parlays are in tact

adee-gee
01-21-2006, 01:54 AM
PHM is running away with it.

For us that put our $$$$ on PHM to win, lets have a beer or two.
I've had more than 1 or 2 bro ;)

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 01:54 AM
Hrbaty wins the second set. YAY

adee-gee
01-21-2006, 01:54 AM
If Coria doesnt' retire, I feel sorry for the people who had $$$ on him.
I would've lost the bet if he retired anyway. It's just really frustrating, he was about to mount a comeback.

Horatio Caine
01-21-2006, 01:58 AM
I've had more than 1 or 2 bro ;)

:drink: Have another one on me ;)

Horatio Caine
01-21-2006, 01:59 AM
Geez...what did Dom drink at the set changeover :rolleyes: :mad:

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 01:59 AM
Grosjean is putting on a bit of a choke serving for the match

TwistyServe
01-21-2006, 02:07 AM
Coria = 23 double faults and match not even finished yet.

adee-gee
01-21-2006, 02:10 AM
:drink: Have another one on me ;)
Cheers boss, good luck on Dom ;)

Horatio Caine
01-21-2006, 02:12 AM
Cheers boss, good luck on Dom ;)

Cheers man - he is doing me proud by fighting out there...a real man!! :yeah:

Horatio Caine
01-21-2006, 02:12 AM
Cheers boss, good luck on Dom ;)
Is PHM worth fading next round? :tape: :o

adee-gee
01-21-2006, 02:21 AM
Cheers man - he is doing me proud by fighting out there...a real man!! :yeah:
Guille actually did me proud with his fight, he was badly injured. I was on too much of a high after PHM to care anyway :lol:

Looking better for you now :D

adee-gee
01-21-2006, 02:22 AM
Is PHM worth fading next round? :tape: :o
Hmmm. I actually like his chances against Grosjean :p I'll let you know ;)

Horatio Caine
01-21-2006, 02:24 AM
Dom :banana: :banana: Come on man - keep fighting...this is impressive stuff!

Horatio Caine
01-21-2006, 02:25 AM
Hmmm. I actually like his chances against Grosjean :p I'll let you know ;)

Lol - I think he has a chance too! But Seb has done well here a few times so I guess he is better placed to advance. ;)

Horatio Caine
01-21-2006, 02:25 AM
Dom is a LEGEND!!! 2/1 sets....just 1 more please!!! :yeah:

ClaycourtaZzZz.
01-21-2006, 02:25 AM
Adam, what did I tell you?:rolleyes: You won't listen to me.

adee-gee
01-21-2006, 02:38 AM
Adam, what did I tell you?:rolleyes: You won't listen to me.
You can't legislate for injuries :shrug:

ClaycourtaZzZz.
01-21-2006, 02:40 AM
You can't legislate for injuries :shrug:
Even without the injury he couldn't do any damage. :)

adee-gee
01-21-2006, 02:43 AM
Even without the injury he couldn't do any damage. :)
I disagree, he was on his way back after taking the 3rd, he stepped up a gear and Grosjean was making a lot of UE. He almost came back in the 4th, and he could barely hold the racquet :shrug:

adee-gee
01-21-2006, 02:44 AM
Jez, you're being made to sweat by Dom :o

Mistaflava
01-21-2006, 02:46 AM
2006 ATP Tennis Record: 10-2 (+$2312)


A perfect 3-0 on Thursday night. Keep in mind, all my wagers are on plays -199 (1.51 or less. No big juice and no big favorites or huge dogs. This is all about the value matches and so far the season has been great.

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Round 3: Saturday, January 21, 2006



Dominik Hrbaty +105 over Igor Andreev ($300 to win $305)

This is a very simple play that actually required less than 5 minutes of my time to decide who I was betting on. Most of the public is going to fade the Dominator because he played a gruelling 5-set match against Dick Norman in Round 2 and the perception is that he will be too tired to win here. Isn't that the same attitude everyone had when betting against Jarkko in last week's Auckland Final? If anything, the win over Norman gave Dominator a huge boost in confidence and facing Andreev will be a step down for him. Andreev is a succesful clay courter but not a succesful hard courter. He has never been this far in any hardcourt Grand Slam and I don't expect him to make the jump to the next level. Hrbaty on the other hand is a very succesful career hardcourter who has been to the 4th Round four times and Quarter-Finals twice at the Australian Open. This match is not going to end in 3 sets...we all know that. Therefore, Dominiki Hrbaty has the edge as he is 5-1 in five-setters the last three seasons and 8-2 in four or five-setters over the last two years. Both players are coming off long five set matches. Andreev made 48 unforced errors against Sluiter, while Hrbaty made 43 against Norman. Sluiter had a lot of success with net approaches, which is something Hrbaty is very good at and will probably use against Andreev. This is a risky match but I like Dominator's experience and toughness.



Juan Ignacio Chela -178 over Kristof Vliegen ($1780 to win $1000)

The last time we saw Vliegen he made us some big time money and so did Chela for anyone who put money on him against Hewitt. These two are coming from different worlds here. Vliegen almost blew the match against Verdasco several times but the Spaniard doesn't have a head on his shoulders and was probably more concerned with the way he looks with sweat dripping down his face. Verdasco should have taken Vliegen out but he didn't. Chela made me money in Round 1 when he knocked off Andy Murray and hopefully his level of intensity is the same here and he comes out firing. Chela has more success in his career on the claycourts but he has also been good on hardcourts. Vliegen seriously lacks the experience to be this far in a Grand Slam and this is the end of the road for him. In his match against Verdasco, Vliegen made a whopping 51 unforced errors and had only 34 winners. That won't work in this match because Chela made only 34 unforced errors and had 49 winners against Hewitt. Chela has a very accurate 2nd serve this week which will be important in a match like this. I think Chela wins in straight sets.



:eek:



Chela wins 61 64 64



:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:



CMON DOM...make this a great night!


.

TwistyServe
01-21-2006, 02:47 AM
Jez, you're being made to sweat by Dom :o

This thing is going to 5 I think... Can hrb(a)ty last another 5 setter? hmm probably hehe

TwistyServe
01-21-2006, 02:57 AM
I dont know what's up with Haas though. He's not getting many points on Luczak's serve. And well.. that messes up two of my parleyS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 03:41 AM
Hrbaty has thrown the match away. Andreev will have an easy 5th set.

Grinder
01-21-2006, 03:57 AM
Andreev is officially blacklisted, that fucking idiot just cost me $1200, what a choker.

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 03:58 AM
Andreev didn't choke. It's just that the weather fucked him up.

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 03:58 AM
I'm on target to win all my bets today.

:cool:

TwistyServe
01-21-2006, 04:00 AM
Damn! I wanted a perfect night..

Lose on Andreev

Win on Chela

Win on PHM

Pending parleys based on Haas.. Still gained some $$ tonight but woulda been nicer with Andreev in the mix.

Mistaflava
01-21-2006, 04:01 AM
2006 ATP Tennis Record: 10-2 (+$2312)


A perfect 3-0 on Thursday night. Keep in mind, all my wagers are on plays -199 (1.51 or less. No big juice and no big favorites or huge dogs. This is all about the value matches and so far the season has been great.

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Round 3: Saturday, January 21, 2006



Dominik Hrbaty +105 over Igor Andreev ($300 to win $305)

This is a very simple play that actually required less than 5 minutes of my time to decide who I was betting on. Most of the public is going to fade the Dominator because he played a gruelling 5-set match against Dick Norman in Round 2 and the perception is that he will be too tired to win here. Isn't that the same attitude everyone had when betting against Jarkko in last week's Auckland Final? If anything, the win over Norman gave Dominator a huge boost in confidence and facing Andreev will be a step down for him. Andreev is a succesful clay courter but not a succesful hard courter. He has never been this far in any hardcourt Grand Slam and I don't expect him to make the jump to the next level. Hrbaty on the other hand is a very succesful career hardcourter who has been to the 4th Round four times and Quarter-Finals twice at the Australian Open. This match is not going to end in 3 sets...we all know that. Therefore, Dominiki Hrbaty has the edge as he is 5-1 in five-setters the last three seasons and 8-2 in four or five-setters over the last two years. Both players are coming off long five set matches. Andreev made 48 unforced errors against Sluiter, while Hrbaty made 43 against Norman. Sluiter had a lot of success with net approaches, which is something Hrbaty is very good at and will probably use against Andreev. This is a risky match but I like Dominator's experience and toughness.



Juan Ignacio Chela -178 over Kristof Vliegen ($1780 to win $1000)

The last time we saw Vliegen he made us some big time money and so did Chela for anyone who put money on him against Hewitt. These two are coming from different worlds here. Vliegen almost blew the match against Verdasco several times but the Spaniard doesn't have a head on his shoulders and was probably more concerned with the way he looks with sweat dripping down his face. Verdasco should have taken Vliegen out but he didn't. Chela made me money in Round 1 when he knocked off Andy Murray and hopefully his level of intensity is the same here and he comes out firing. Chela has more success in his career on the claycourts but he has also been good on hardcourts. Vliegen seriously lacks the experience to be this far in a Grand Slam and this is the end of the road for him. In his match against Verdasco, Vliegen made a whopping 51 unforced errors and had only 34 winners. That won't work in this match because Chela made only 34 unforced errors and had 49 winners against Hewitt. Chela has a very accurate 2nd serve this week which will be important in a match like this. I think Chela wins in straight sets.



:eek:



Dominator wins...whooooooooooooooooooooo


:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


What another great night and great Australian Open



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TwistyServe
01-21-2006, 04:02 AM
Added another tiny wager on Healey @9.5 odds now! $30 pays $255 is worth the risk :)

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 04:42 AM
HAAS!

BRING IT ON

Kiefer destroying Ferrero too. First set 6 - 3, up a break in the second.

Let's go!

TwistyServe
01-21-2006, 04:47 AM
Well summing up my results today:

PHM x Haas @1.93 (medium wager)
Kiefer @ 2.030 (mild wager)
Chela @1.455 (high wager)
Andreev @1.833 (high wager)
Haas x Hingis x Storsur x Vaidisova @2.388 (medium wager)
Healey @8.850 and @ 9.50 (marginal wager)

Added just now: Clijisters vs Vinci over 17 1/2 games (small wage) @1.866

Overall, if Andreev didn't lose woulda had an awesome night.. But even with his lost still made some $$$. GL with the next round :) .. Heading to bed now :wavey:

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 04:51 AM
My Kiefer X Haas parlay I always play looks like it's not letting me down yet again. Hopefully Kiefer keeps this up and wins it in 3.

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 05:06 AM
Kiefer takes the second set 6 - 2.

It's too easy for the German

sports freak
01-21-2006, 05:11 AM
Oh man,The DOM is GOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD,What a machine this guy is!!!!Scorching weather in Melbourne,b2b2b2b 5 setters WOWWWWWWWW!!!My hats off to the guy!!!

sports freak
01-21-2006, 05:13 AM
Oh man,The DOM is GOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD,What a machine this guy is!!!!Scorching weather in Melbourne,b2b2b2b 5 setters WOWWWWWWWW!!!My hats off to the guy!!!

2 yrs ago DOM went on a 10km run after a marathorn 5 setter,this guy is not human in fitness wise :rolleyes:

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 05:22 AM
Are you okay Freak? Quoting yourself! :haha:

sports freak
01-21-2006, 05:31 AM
Are you okay Freak? Quoting yourself! :haha:

To be honest bro still freaking out :rolleyes:

coup3z
01-21-2006, 08:52 AM
Luczak+7 X Chela @ 2.68 easy money !

told ya again ;)

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 09:17 AM
Stosur is choking big time.

Should have known better than to bet on an Aussie female who has a weight of the nation behind her, who is playing on the main court in prime time in her home grand slam.

LeoSK
01-21-2006, 09:27 AM
:confused: See me in a few hrs ;)

Hi, I'm back here. Do you want something to add? :D

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 09:50 AM
I don't know but as all my bets won today, I feel like being cocky and play something small on Federer to win 3 - 1 @ $4.65

I've got a few minutes to think about it

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 10:03 AM
Screw it! I won everything today and so I have some play money.

Will put some on the following.

Federer to win in 4 sets @ $4.65

JMG
01-21-2006, 10:12 AM
Stosur x Mauresmo @1.65
Hrbaty @1.85
Haas x Chela @1.67

WON @1.30
WON
WON

:D

Grinder
01-21-2006, 11:04 AM
Lost with Lopez and Ancic yesterday, but softened the hit to $32 with Santoro.

Nicolas Kiefer over Juan Carlos Ferrero @ +110 - $1364 to win $1500

I'm feeling really good about this one, Kiefer is a much superior player at this point in his career. Ferrero got stretched to five sets by Tipseravic and the latter stages of Kiefer's match showed signs of great form and confidence. The crazy German has shown that he has no problems dispatching top 10 players, let alone top 20 with straight set crushings of the likes of Nalbandian, Gaudio, Davydenko, Safin, etc. Kiefer has also shown that he's one of the few people that can consistently take sets of Federer. Ferrero shouldn't have too much confidence on early form with a loss to Chris Guccione. Let's face it, if Chris Guccione can break your serve, anyone can. I'm feeling Kiefer in straight sets, maybe four.

Andreev x Grosjean x Chela x Hingis @ +468 - $250 to win $1200

Good luck to everyone.
WON

Horatio Caine
01-21-2006, 11:39 AM
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM!!! I am :inlove: with the guy!!! What a legend!!! Haha!!! Woooooooooooooooo!!!! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaah!!!! 15 sets in 3 matches!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a machine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:inlove: :hearts: :woohoo: :yeah: :drink: :smoke: :banana: :lol: :tape: :D :)

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 12:05 PM
Damn. That Federer fun play didn't win

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 12:05 PM
Parlay

Haas X Chela X Stosur @ $2.37 - WON

Also:

Kiefer over Ferrero @ $1.90 - WON

Stosur X Hingis X Haas X Vaidisova @ $2.29 is also a goer. - WON

A Haas X Kiefer parlay has always won for me in the past and I can get it @ $2.18 so I'm going to play it too. I know it's dangerous having one player in 3 parlays, but there is no way Haas will lose to Luczak with the form Haas has been in. - WON

Hrbaty over Andreev @ $1.93 - WON

PHM over Horna @ $1.67 - WON

Grosjean over Coria @ $1.57 - WON

Screw it! I won everything today and so I have some play money.

Will put some on the following.

Federer to win in 4 sets @ $4.65 - LOST

Missa K over Mauresmo @ $3.35 - VOID

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 12:05 PM
Must say a few things:

To be honest bro still freaking out :rolleyes:

Does this relate to the day I had today?



4. Geez...never take anything from Bolar :tape: ...you won't go wrong with Haas anyway - he has blessed him at any rate :)

That was regarding the following parlay:

Stosur X Hingis X Haas X Vaidisova @ $2.29

Will you reconsider that statement in the future? :cool:

great, now i may as well rip up my betting slips :o

In reference to me saying something about the Coria and Grosjean match.

Sorry Mate :(

just need Haas and Stosur to win! Hingis and Vaidisova did their part.. Thanks to Bolar :)

That's okay. I don't mind it if you copy my bets. Glad one of them won for someone else. :)

Finally:

Well done to everyone who won today. To the people who didn't, bad luck and I wish you well tomorrow.

Horatio Caine
01-21-2006, 12:08 PM
Well done Bolar - you cleaned up ;)

As to reconsidering the statement....maybe - but this is only 1 day ;)

shotgun
01-21-2006, 01:34 PM
Andreev over Hrbaty @ 1.81
Kiefer over Ferrero @ 2.05

Also going small on Vliegen to beat Chela @ 2.52 -

LOST
WON
LOST

Andreev is a mental midget, first the Sydney final and now this. Won't back him again for a while. Kiefer saved my day, I'm glad I decided to keep this bet after all. ;)

mini bad gambler
01-21-2006, 01:59 PM
Sebastien Grosjean @ 1.61
Juan-Ignacio Chela @ 1.50
Tommy Haas @ 1.11
Nicolas Kiefer @ 1.83
Nikolay Davydenko @ 1.06
Roger Federer @ 1.01

:awww:

3 days i watched tennis for the first time in 5 years on tv... and i picked all these :D

ClaycourtaZzZz.
01-21-2006, 03:35 PM
Coria to beat Grosjean:cuckoo::silly:

sports freak
01-21-2006, 11:06 PM
Bolar u are on sreious crack bro,i was talking about the Dom come back and here you go talkin it up other bullshit that comes from nowwhere,u trippin??

Bolar Bolabi
01-21-2006, 11:08 PM
Doesn't come from nowhere. I had a good day so I was asking if you're freaked out by it aswell.

sports freak
01-22-2006, 12:23 AM
Doesn't come from nowhere. I had a good day so I was asking if you're freaked out by it aswell.

Its all good Bolar :) Yes im impressed,congrats on an awesome day mate,good luck 2day with your plays!!!!kill the books :)

Horatio Caine
01-23-2006, 01:50 PM
Jim champ, I see you're going through all the threads since your absence....welcome back!! :haha: :haha:

You'll probably enjoy Maniac Monday :haha: :haha: :haha:

Horatio Caine
01-23-2006, 01:59 PM
Oh and I think this is worth a read ;) http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=66609

its.like.that
01-23-2006, 02:32 PM
If you're going to do a good fun parlay:

Coria X Healey X Haas X Missa K @ $69

I'm not going to play it though.

Hope that you didn't play it Bolar, you've never had much like with 69'ers.

;)

its.like.that
01-23-2006, 02:44 PM
Andreev didn't choke. It's just that the weather fucked him up.

:retard:

Igor should still have won.

its.like.that
01-23-2006, 02:47 PM
Must say a few things:



Does this relate to the day I had today?



That was regarding the following parlay:

Stosur X Hingis X Haas X Vaidisova @ $2.29

Will you reconsider that statement in the future? :cool:



In reference to me saying something about the Coria and Grosjean match.

Sorry Mate :(



That's okay. I don't mind it if you copy my bets. Glad one of them won for someone else. :)

Finally:

Well done to everyone who won today. To the people who didn't, bad luck and I wish you well tomorrow.

:retard:

its.like.that
01-23-2006, 02:50 PM
Bolar u are on sreious crack bro,i was talking about the Dom come back and here you go talkin it up other bullshit that comes from nowwhere,u trippin??

:worship:

Bolar is a clown freak, to me he's like a piece of toilet paper - good for whiping my ass with!!!

:D