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Curls
12-29-2005, 07:45 AM
thx Emilita ... poor Marat :sad:

{Annie}
12-29-2005, 07:57 AM
Thanks Emily for getting us back on track here. :lol:
The news are not that good though. :( :sad:

They aren't bad either :lol: they are....not news :rolleyes:

rosespower
12-29-2005, 08:00 AM
:lol: I once had an ad that said "Looking for Marat? ... Find him here at Google" :haha: ... if only it was that easy :lol: I'd be googling him 24/7 :devil:
:D

rosespower
12-29-2005, 08:02 AM
hey guys, i finally got an email back from someone regarding marat...it was from one of his good friends in spain. marat spent xmas with him but even he is unsure whether marat will be able to play the open or not...we'll just have to wait and see i guess...
everybody on this threads has someone to tell them news about somone....i want such friends.....

~EMiLiTA~
12-29-2005, 08:10 AM
everybody on this threads has someone to tell them news about somone....i want such friends.....

well yeah it's good...but sometimes it takes so long to get hold of them! they take like 2-3 weeks to respond to emails cos they're so busy

mer
12-29-2005, 08:31 AM
Thanks Emilita!

AnnieNik
12-29-2005, 10:46 AM
:lol: I once had an ad that said "Looking for Marat? ... Find him here at Google" :haha: ... if only it was that easy :lol: I'd be googling him 24/7 :devil:

Priority access, Pammy :devil:

Thanks, Emilita :wavey:

Ulrike :haha:

Irochka, get well soon :hug:

Everybody :hug: Have a nice day! :angel:

Curls
12-29-2005, 10:49 AM
Priority access, Pammy :devil:
:hug: Annie

oh, if it's only a money thing, I'm sure I can rummage up some cash ... I have ways and means :aplot:

Saumon
12-29-2005, 11:20 AM
Thanks Emily for getting us back on track here. :lol:
The news are not that good though. :( :sad:
at least we know he did something for christmas :shrug: :p

thanx emilita :kiss:

maria87
12-29-2005, 11:39 AM
hey guys, i finally got an email back from someone regarding marat...it was from one of his good friends in spain. marat spent xmas with him but even he is unsure whether marat will be able to play the open or not...we'll just have to wait and see i guess...

Thanks, Emilita....

AnnieNik
12-29-2005, 11:48 AM
:hug: Annie

oh, if it's only a money thing, I'm sure I can rummage up some cash ... I have ways and means :aplot:

It could be money, Money or MONEY :p Everyone has a price, ya know :devil:

How are your lil' monsters doing, dear?

Curls
12-29-2005, 11:58 AM
It could be money, Money or MONEY :p Everyone has a price, ya know :devil:

How are your lil' monsters doing, dear?
li'l monsters are fast asleep :woohoo: ... Hubby's not home from work yet :mad: ... so I'm planning on grabbing a drink (a Baileys probably :lick: )and watching some Saf :drool:

Elisabeth
12-29-2005, 12:02 PM
li'l monsters are fast asleep :woohoo: ... Hubby's not home from work yet :mad: ... so I'm planning on grabbing a drink (a Baileys probably :lick: )and watching some Saf :drool:


hm..love Baileys too! :drink: But don' t get drunk :spit: ;)

Thanks Emily :hug:

Mara_M
12-29-2005, 12:36 PM
I'm not big into ice-cream ... but my favourite is Chocolate Obsession ... chocolate ice-cream with chunks (and I mean CHUNKS!) of chocolate and cherry syrupy swirls ... almost better than sex :drool: ... almost :)
sounds like brittney spears:lol:!

Mara_M
12-29-2005, 12:38 PM
hey guys, i finally got an email back from someone regarding marat...it was from one of his good friends in spain. marat spent xmas with him but even he is unsure whether marat will be able to play the open or not...we'll just have to wait and see i guess...
thanks emilta!guys,the nexs are good,at least there is one tiny hope!

Mara_M
12-29-2005, 12:41 PM
li'l monsters are fast asleep :woohoo: ... Hubby's not home from work yet :mad: ... so I'm planning on grabbing a drink (a Baileys probably :lick: )and watching some Saf :drool:
i'm oeful about :drink:!i drank a martini in 8 hours,and at the last new year's party i didnt even finish my champagne :rolleyes: :o :rolleyes: !!

rosespower
12-29-2005, 01:01 PM
o dont like alcohool at all.....so i dont care about finishing the champagne.....

Mara_M
12-29-2005, 01:03 PM
me neighter,but it was only a bottle(of the finiest champaigne,it's true) for 10ppl(wich 3 were notorius alcooholic) and it was very little drink in my glass!so..:o

rosespower
12-29-2005, 01:13 PM
ooooooooo i got it.....

Mara_M
12-29-2005, 01:20 PM
do u like beer?

maria87
12-29-2005, 01:59 PM
i don't like beer, i like champagne

we are :topic: again :wavey:

Saumon
12-29-2005, 02:44 PM
we are :topic: again :wavey:
and? will we die tomorrow because we were off topic on the Marat news and articles thread? :eek: :bolt:

maria87
12-29-2005, 02:53 PM
and? will we die tomorrow because we were off topic on the Marat news and articles thread? :eek: :bolt:

niente, cara, niente...i was joking as you :yeah:

rosespower
12-29-2005, 04:13 PM
do u like beer?
bleah.....

Mara_M
12-29-2005, 05:21 PM
:lol:i don't like beer eighter,but anyway..i prefer :drink:beer than other cocktails or whatever..even that i would like to try that "prince igor" coktail:lol:!
we are always offtopic.and for now marat si been quiet so we don't have news or articles:lol:!

maria87
12-29-2005, 07:15 PM
article in Spanish posted in Safinator:
Briefly Peter said the injury is better, not inflammed but he has still pain sometimes (when the weather changes suddenly for example) but anyway they are fighting to arrive to AOpen, no one is sure...He has finally touched the racket but "barely" he said!!!! "apenas"....
So maybe i was wrong and we have still a small chance!!
the bad thing is to know he has still some pain sometimes...

"El entrenador de Safin no descarta la participación del ruso en Australia
El tenista ruso Marat Safin, tiene intención de revalidar el título en el Abierto de Australia, a pesar de que aún no se ha recuperado completamente de su tendinitis en la rodilla derecha, aseguró Peter Lundgren, entrenador del tenista.

"Hemos decidido no forzar los acontecimientos. Ahora lo importante es preparar la defensa del título", señaló Lundgren a la prensa deportiva rusa. Lundgren también comentó la decisión de no disputar la Copa Hofman, que enfrenta a ocho equipos nacionales mixtos y que comienza el viernes en Perth (Australia).

"No podemos precipitarnos. El año pasado Safin disputó varios torneos cuando aún no había completado su recuperación. Ese error no se puede repetir, aunque Marat tenía muchas ganas de jugar en Perth", dijo. Safin reanudó a principios de diciembre los entrenamientos en Valencia, pero apenas ha tomado la raqueta, ya que su condición física no es la más adecuada, señaló el entrenador sueco.


"Todavía quedan secuelas"

"La rodilla ya no se inflama, pero aún quedan algunas secuelas, Cuando el tiempo cambia bruscamente, le molesta un poco. Pero pronto volverá a las pistas", agregó Lundgren, que antes dirigía al número uno del mundo, el suizo Roger Federer. Safín, que sufre una tendinitis en su rodilla derecha, venció el año pasado al australiano Lleyton Hewitt en la final (1-6, 6-3, 6-4 y 6-4).

El tenista ruso, que antes había eliminado en una épica semifinal a Federer, el gran favorito para la victoria, disputó las finales de 2002, 2004 y 2005, por lo que su ausencia sería un serio revés para este torneo, que comienza el 16 de enero. El director del torneo, Paul McNamee, declaró hace unos días que Safin estaba "en plena carrera contrarreloj para poder participar en el Abierto de Australia, pero no jugar la Copa Hopman es un mal síntoma".

Mara_M
12-29-2005, 07:21 PM
gracias:hug:

PennyThePenguin
12-30-2005, 12:46 AM
thanks for the mini update emily! :hug:

hmm...the guy's going to suffer from rheumatism very very badly in his grand-daddy age. he's already starting now... :sad:

Mara_M
12-30-2005, 01:04 AM
first stop for rheumatsysm:tendons!!!

The Safinator
12-30-2005, 06:47 AM
guys, how u can dislike beer? In BG the beer is too cheap, so we drink a lot :cool:

MariaV
12-30-2005, 07:06 AM
LMAO, at my advanced age of 36 this autumn I got a belly for the first time without beer already so no thanks. :lol: I really dislike beer.
And poor granddad Marat with arthritis. :hug:

ragazza
12-30-2005, 10:01 AM
i dun drink beer,but The Safinator's right here in bg it's very liked... YUK

Curls
12-30-2005, 10:20 AM
*Pamushka puts the Kiwi Cream at the back of the shelf and gets out the Tiger Balm* :aplot:

Curls
12-30-2005, 10:35 AM
Not really Marat news ... but ... my sister just spoke with her friend who works for the Hopman Cup and apparently Teimuraz Gabashvili (Marat's replacement at Hopman) is injured and unable to make it ... apparently they're frantic down at the Hopman office :eek: ... what is it with these Russian men and their injuries!! :lol:

AnnieNik
12-30-2005, 11:04 AM
Not really Marat news ... but ... my sister just spoke with her friend who works for the Hopman Cup and apparently Teimuraz Gabashvili (Marat's replacement at Hopman) is injured and unable to make it ... apparently they're frantic down at the Hopman office :eek: ... what is it with these Russian men and their injuries!! :lol:

Poor organizators. They must have learned some curses in Russian these days :devil:

mer
12-30-2005, 11:20 AM
Poor Sveta. I hope they'll find replacement.

Curls
12-30-2005, 11:38 AM
it's looking doubtful :awww: ... who else is there?? ... their first session is Tuesday morning :eek: ... maybe I will get a refund on my tickets after all, which in a way is :yeah: but in a way is :sad: ... hopefully they'll find someone ... have you got any brothers or male friends who could pop down to Perth and pick up a racket, Ira? :lol:

Saumon
12-30-2005, 11:58 AM
it's looking doubtful :awww: ... who else is there?? ... their first session is Tuesday morning :eek: ... maybe I will get a refund on my tickets after all, which in a way is :yeah: but in a way is :sad: ... hopefully they'll find someone ... have you got any brothers or male friends who could pop down to Perth and pick up a racket, Ira? :lol:
Vass could play :aplot: :lol:

mer
12-30-2005, 11:59 AM
Vass could play :aplot: :lol:

Good idea :lol:

mer
12-30-2005, 12:02 PM
have you got any brothers or male friends who could pop down to Perth and pick up a racket, Ira? :lol:

no :sad: If only I've got brothers I don't know about :tape:

Curls
12-30-2005, 12:08 PM
Vass could play :aplot: :lol:
http://bestsmileys.com/talking/4.gifVassy boy ... busy for the next week or so?? :lol:

Curls
12-30-2005, 12:09 PM
no :sad: If only I've got brothers I don't know about :tape:
:lol: oh dear, we don't want to open a can or worms now, do we? :eek: ;)

Saumon
12-30-2005, 12:14 PM
The Russian players (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/entrysystem/Default.asp?RankDate=12%2F19%2F2005&range=1-50&country=Russia++++++++++++++++++++++++&image1.x=23&image1.y=10)
Is Kunitsyn busy next week? :unsure:
I've heard Korolev is very talented. :p

PennyThePenguin
12-30-2005, 12:39 PM
vass can take them on. cmon vassiej!!!!!

i'm sorry nastya won't be your partner this year though. but i'm sure you'll manage! and u'd get a suite at burswood!

Saumon
12-30-2005, 12:41 PM
vass can take them on. cmon vassiej!!!!!

i'm sorry nastya won't be your partner this year though. but i'm sure you'll manage! and u'd get a suite at burswood!
with sveta? :aplot: :tape:

PennyThePenguin
12-30-2005, 12:42 PM
i didn't say that ;) you did lol........

rosespower
12-30-2005, 01:31 PM
L'equipe said that the tennis had this year two stars Nadal and Federer.....and Marat was the comet......

Mara_M
12-30-2005, 08:19 PM
The Russian players (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/entrysystem/Default.asp?RankDate=12%2F19%2F2005&range=1-50&country=Russia++++++++++++++++++++++++&image1.x=23&image1.y=10)
Is Kunitsyn busy next week? :unsure:
I've heard Korolev is very talented. :p
yeap,both played well at kremlin cup!korolev even won a challenger last year in november! :angel:

Saumon
12-30-2005, 10:53 PM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=2858282&postcount=368

why Lord Carlos? WHYYYY??? :bigcry: :banghead:

tall_one
12-30-2005, 11:17 PM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=2858282&postcount=368

why Lord Carlos? WHYYYY??? :bigcry: :banghead:
:awww: hope he is smart enough to sit out until it is completly healed. 19 is way too young to be having these kinds of problems

PennyThePenguin
12-31-2005, 12:54 AM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=2858282&postcount=368

why Lord Carlos? WHYYYY??? :bigcry: :banghead:


:hug: :hug: :hug:

sorry gab...ma'am...all the rafaelites...

nicki's right. 19's way too young :sad:

Mara_M
12-31-2005, 02:41 PM
:o..i don't like the guy,but i feel sorry for him:o

Vass
12-31-2005, 09:14 PM
Marat's 3rd most loved sportsman in Russia. 10+% of people voted for him.

Konstantine Dziu, the boxer, is first with 16%.
Pavel Bure, second 15%.

rosespower
12-31-2005, 10:00 PM
not bad...who were the first...?

rosespower
12-31-2005, 10:10 PM
http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s57/e11348/sport_lng0_spo57_evt11348_sto807886.shtml
the first this year....

rosespower
01-01-2006, 03:14 PM
http://www.tennisreporters.net/05_awards_poll_122805.html

rosespower
01-01-2006, 03:15 PM
AND PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE MY MESAGES LIKE ALWAYS! this are good stories....

Vass
01-01-2006, 03:59 PM
not bad...who were the first...?

Konstantine Dziu, the boxer, is first with 16%.
Pavel Bure, second 15%.
..

NINA_BCN
01-01-2006, 04:00 PM
Thank you hun!!! :kiss:

patatazia
01-01-2006, 04:49 PM
A new marat article on the eurosport website..I really hope that he'll defend his title in Australia :awww: :scared:

http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s57/sport_lng0_spo57_sto807886.shtml

maria87
01-01-2006, 05:14 PM
A new marat article on the eurosport website..I really hope that he'll defend his title in Australia :awww: :scared:

http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s57/sport_lng0_spo57_sto807886.shtml

it was already posted!! see above your post!

rosespower
01-01-2006, 05:51 PM
..
yes i saw later sorry i didnt read with very much atention...i was distracted... ;) :)

rosespower
01-01-2006, 05:53 PM
Thank you hun!!! :kiss:
:hug:

MariaV
01-01-2006, 06:27 PM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=2858282&postcount=368

why Lord Carlos? WHYYYY??? :bigcry: :banghead:
Gab we 2 Rafa fans! :bigcry: :tears: :sad. :sobbing: :crying2: I'll try to drop by at Rafa's forum. :hug: :hug:

rosespower
01-01-2006, 07:53 PM
try the other page link here works.....are working better say....

drf716
01-02-2006, 06:22 AM
i miss marat!

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c179/Leena_Fedorova/philip.jpg

rosespower
01-02-2006, 08:13 AM
i miss marat!

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c179/Leena_Fedorova/philip.jpg
we all miss him but who is in the pic....

linus
01-02-2006, 08:36 AM
we all miss him but who is in the pic....
yea, me too :lol:

leonisa
01-03-2006, 12:06 PM
I think the guy in the pic is Philip Younghusband, who played for the soccer team of Philippines in the 23rd Southeast Asian Games. He also plays for Chelsea Reserves. :)

rosespower
01-03-2006, 12:07 PM
I think the guy in the pic is Philip Younghusband, who played for the soccer team of Philippines in the 23rd Southeast Asian Games. He also plays for Chelsea Reserves. :)
tnx... :)

Sandra
01-03-2006, 08:50 PM
That Es article :sad:

rosespower
01-03-2006, 09:28 PM
what?

distilk
01-04-2006, 02:55 PM
Dinara said the chances are really small that Marat will play AO:
[URL=http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=6990971#post6990971]

Meeek
01-04-2006, 03:10 PM
Dinara said the chances are really small that Marat will play AO:
[URL=http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=6990971#post6990971]

Yup:

"INJURIES are threatening to bite heavily into the list of summer tennis drawcards, with Andre Agassi considered increasingly unlikely to contest the Australian Open, and Marat Safin's sister, Dinara Safina, adding to the growing pessimism over the champion's ability to mount a title defence.

"He is still injured with his knee, so I hope it will get better, but I think the chances are really small that he's coming," Safina, the world No.20, said before her quarter-final match at the Australian Women's Hardcourts on the Gold Coast. "But I hope (so). I'll miss him." "

Bibir
01-04-2006, 03:36 PM
I need help! :help:

I don't understand something, If he's still injuried with his knee, he's not able to practice...The chances are not very small that he's coming..There is no chance at all. :shrug:

This is stupid. C'mon Marat, tell me the truth! :mad:

Deea
01-04-2006, 03:38 PM
:crying: :crying: Noooo....no more bad news! Stop please stop! :crying;

Deea
01-04-2006, 03:42 PM
When will we get to the day when we'll hear: "Oh yeah, Marat is fine, the knee is ok, he has fully recuperated and he'll play next week"????

Deea
01-04-2006, 03:43 PM
I'm really looking forward to that day! Really really really!

NINA_BCN
01-04-2006, 03:59 PM
I need help! :help:

I don't understand something, If he's still injuried with his knee, he's not able to practice...The chances are not very small that he's coming..There is no chance at all. :shrug:

This is stupid. C'mon Marat, tell me the truth! :mad:
:scared:

tall_one
01-04-2006, 04:01 PM
When will we get to the day when we'll hear: "Oh yeah, Marat is fine, the knee is ok, he has fully recuperated and he'll play next week"????
i'm not sure we will ever hear that, i'd be happy with the 'knee is okay enough to play'

mer
01-04-2006, 04:02 PM
Yup:

"He is still injured with his knee, so I hope it will get better, but I think the chances are really small that he's coming," Safina, the world No.20, said before her quarter-final match at the Australian Women's Hardcourts on the Gold Coast. "But I hope (so). I'll miss him." "

I get it as there is no chance. :sad:

Meeek
01-04-2006, 04:06 PM
I get it as there is no chance. :sad:

Which is sad :awww:

BUT, very wise. Nothing worse than a defending champion getting crushed in the first round, due to injury.
So I'm glad. In a very odd way.

Shadow
01-04-2006, 04:07 PM
BUT, very wise. Nothing worse than a defending champion getting crushed in the first round, due to injury.
So I'm glad. In a very odd way.

me too. and i guess he learned his lesson about playing when the injury is still not recoverd.
BUT I`m so worried about that dammish knee... will it ever recover?????? :(

Meeek
01-04-2006, 04:10 PM
BUT I`m so worried about that dammish knee... will it ever recover?????? :(

:tape:

Bibir
01-04-2006, 04:11 PM
I get it as there is no chance. :sad:
There is no chance Ira indeed....But shuut it's a secret! ...he will officialize it just before the AO. :sad:

scary thought: if he plays despite the injury? :scared: :retard:

Bibir
01-04-2006, 04:15 PM
me too. and i guess he learned his lesson about playing when the injury is still not recoverd.
BUT I`m so worried about that dammish knee... will it ever recover?????? :(
Which lesson?

Roland Garros,Wimbledon or Cincinnati? :shrug:

And I'm only talking about 2005 of course. :)

Shadow
01-04-2006, 04:17 PM
Which lesson?

Roland Garros,Wimbledon or Cincinnati? :shrug:

And I'm only talking about 2005 of course. :)

as it happened already that often i hoped he learned it finally.... i mean since cincinnatti ;)

mer
01-04-2006, 04:18 PM
There is no chance Ira indeed....But shuut it's a secret! ...he will officialize it just before the AO. :sad:

scary thought: if he plays despite the injury? :scared: :retard:

He won't! :unsure:

Bibir
01-04-2006, 04:26 PM
as it happened already that often i hoped he learned it finally....
He never ceaze to amaze us! That's our Marat ;)

NINA_BCN
01-04-2006, 04:27 PM
He never ceaze to amaze us! That's our Marat ;)
:rolleyes: Damn!! You're so right!!! :o

iced gem
01-04-2006, 04:37 PM
:sad: Awww poor Marat.



BUT, very wise. Nothing worse than a defending champion getting crushed in the first round, due to injury.
So I'm glad. In a very odd way.


I agree. It's always sad when a defending champion isn't there, but it's worse when they crash out in the opening round - like Anastasia and Sveta last year.

I really don't want to see him rush his comeback.

On a lighter note, I suppose this means that there will be no rush for him to have the MopTop cut off! :mad: ;)

maria87
01-04-2006, 04:59 PM
Yup:

"INJURIES are threatening to bite heavily into the list of summer tennis drawcards, with Andre Agassi considered increasingly unlikely to contest the Australian Open, and Marat Safin's sister, Dinara Safina, adding to the growing pessimism over the champion's ability to mount a title defence.

"He is still injured with his knee, so I hope it will get better, but I think the chances are really small that he's coming," Safina, the world No.20, said before her quarter-final match at the Australian Women's Hardcourts on the Gold Coast. "But I hope (so). I'll miss him." "

well finally we have direct words from Dinara, guys...i told you the chances were very small...it doesn't matter, he needs to get well and be strong for next tournaments after Australia....vamos, Marat!!

mer
01-04-2006, 05:06 PM
I wish we heard direct words about the injury from anybody :(
I pray he just needs more time and it's not more serious than that. Please :sad:

maria87
01-04-2006, 05:11 PM
I wish we heard direct words about the injury from anybody :(
I pray he just needs more time and it's not more serious than that. Please :sad:

me too!!! poor marat....he must be devastated to not being able to defend his tiltle

BelgianWaffle
01-04-2006, 06:06 PM
If this knee problem is not fixed in 5 months time, it's gotta be one hell of a problem. Something that requires surgery, for instance. :rolleyes:

:awww: AO will be pretty much ruined for me (on the men's side anyway) if Marat doesn't play but at the same time I only want to see him on court when he is 'fully' recovered.
Fuck :ras:

NINA_BCN
01-04-2006, 06:07 PM
If this knee problem is not fixed in 5 months time, it's gotta be one hell of a problem. Something that requires surgery, for instance. :rolleyes:

:awww: AO will be pretty much ruined for me (on the men's side anyway) if Marat doesn't play but at the same time I only want to see him on court when he is 'fully' recovered.
Fuck :ras:
:hug: :hug: :hug:

BelgianWaffle
01-04-2006, 06:10 PM
:hug: :hug: :hug:
:hug: right back at ya :p

Saumon
01-04-2006, 06:12 PM
he should meet ronaldo's doctor :o :awww:

BelgianWaffle
01-04-2006, 06:13 PM
he should meet ronaldo's doctor :o :awww:
I don't think the problem are the doctors, I think it's the Marat Brain :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:p

MariaV
01-04-2006, 06:13 PM
Oh is the doc doing a good job with Ronaldo? I'm not so much into football lately but Ronaldo seems to be injured a lot lately. :o

Saumon
01-04-2006, 06:15 PM
Oh is the doc doing a good job with Ronaldo? I'm not so much into football lately but Ronaldo seems to be injured a lot lately. :o
ronaldo had a major knee injury (in 1999 or 2000 maybe) and thank to his doctor he came back and won the world cup in 2002 ;)

MariaV
01-04-2006, 06:19 PM
Ahhh, you mean this knee injury. Yeah. I followed footie back then.

mer
01-04-2006, 06:53 PM
"04.01.06 Marat News
Marat took only a 3 day break in Moscow for New Year and then returned to Valencia to continue practice. Peter has joined him and they are working together. He is now practising his tennis and feels good. It is already 4 weeks that he has been working on his fitness and it is coming along fine but it must be remembered that it is a long road back after such a long injury and Marat does not want to rush it. Because of the length of time he has been unable to actually do anything strenuous with his knee, he really lost a lot of muscle strength around the knee and it is vital that this is fully built up again before going back to playing matches.
It is a time race to be ready in time for the Australian Open and Marat is trying everything in his power to be there. He has been in talks with both his main sponsors Head and Adidas and they are in agreement that Marat should not force the issue and should he feel just before the Australian Open that he is not ready, they will abide by his decision. The thing to remember is that he is going to very hot temperatures and also to 5 set matches so Marat and Peter have to be happy that the knee will hold and Marat can fully defend his title. He has been working with the new Head racquet and is happy with his progress.
Marat knows he is in a time race and he is doing everything in his power to be there so do not stop believing - maybe the time has come for a miracle!"

Saumon
01-04-2006, 06:57 PM
Marat knows he is in a time race and he is doing everything in his power to be there so do not stop believing - maybe the time has come for a miracle!
amen :retard:

MariaV
01-04-2006, 06:58 PM
... so Marat and Peter have to be happy that the knee will hold and Marat can fully defend his title.
Ehhhhhhhhhhh??? :confused: :confused: :confused: I know my English sucks.
I mean we're not talking about defending the title here ... or are we? :o :o
Blah blah blah.

NINA_BCN
01-04-2006, 06:59 PM
amen :retard:
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII. :D

mer
01-04-2006, 07:00 PM
The thing to remember is that he is going to very hot temperatures and also to 5 set matches so Marat and Peter have to be happy that the knee will hold and Marat can fully defend his title.

doesn't make sense :confused: May be it should be "have to be sure" ?

Saumon
01-04-2006, 07:04 PM
doesn't make sense :confused: May be it should be "have to be sure" ?
nope
they will be :D if the knee holds, and :sobbing: :bigcry: if it doesnt :rolleyes: :retard:

gwilwileth
01-04-2006, 07:04 PM
"04.01.06 Marat News
Marat took only a 3 day break in Moscow for New Year and then returned to Valencia to continue practice. Peter has joined him and they are working together. He is now practising his tennis and feels good. It is already 4 weeks that he has been working on his fitness and it is coming along fine but it must be remembered that it is a long road back after such a long injury and Marat does not want to rush it. Because of the length of time he has been unable to actually do anything strenuous with his knee, he really lost a lot of muscle strength around the knee and it is vital that this is fully built up again before going back to playing matches.
It is a time race to be ready in time for the Australian Open and Marat is trying everything in his power to be there. He has been in talks with both his main sponsors Head and Adidas and they are in agreement that Marat should not force the issue and should he feel just before the Australian Open that he is not ready, they will abide by his decision. The thing to remember is that he is going to very hot temperatures and also to 5 set matches so Marat and Peter have to be happy that the knee will hold and Marat can fully defend his title. He has been working with the new Head racquet and is happy with his progress.
Marat knows he is in a time race and he is doing everything in his power to be there so do not stop believing - maybe the time has come for a miracle!"

Hm is it just me is that realy just babeling???? I mean there is no point it all comes down to! :retard:
What is that sentence supposed to mean? " Marat and Peter have to be happy that the knee will hold and Marat can fully defend his title" :confused: I mean it says that they are happy if only the knee is fine but they expect to defend the title????? :confused: :confused: :confused: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo:

MariaV
01-04-2006, 07:06 PM
Oh Gab, so you think it should be so Marat and Peter have to be happy IF the knee will hold and Marat can fully defend his title. :shrug: :shrug:

almouchie
01-04-2006, 07:06 PM
whats the official verdict will Marat defend his title or NOT

mer
01-04-2006, 07:08 PM
Oh Gab, so you think it should be :shrug: :shrug:

that's what I thouht, it's either happy if knee holds or sure that knee will hold, not happy that knee will hold... :scratch:

gwilwileth
01-04-2006, 07:09 PM
so Marat and Peter have to be happy IF the knee will hold and Marat can fully defend his title.

Could be! It's :sad: but at least the sentence would make sense!

Damita
01-04-2006, 07:15 PM
Ehhhhhhhhhhh??? :confused: :confused: :confused: I know my English sucks.
I mean we're not talking about defending the title here ... or are we? :o :o
Blah blah blah.
I think they mean defending as in being in the draw and play. Not going there to win it again. At least that's how i understand it because in French we say 'defend a title' when the player goes to the tournament venue and plays at least one match. :shrug:that's what I thouht, it's either happy if knee holds or sure that knee will hold, not happy that knee will hold... :scratch:
my thoughts exactly. The way it's written in the report makes no sense otherwise :confused:

World Beater
01-04-2006, 07:22 PM
they describe it as a miracle. that should say it by itself.

i think he will still come unless he reinjures the knee

MariaV
01-04-2006, 07:25 PM
He better not go if he's not ready. :o

gwilwileth
01-04-2006, 07:34 PM
He better not go if he's not ready. :o

AMEN

Meeek
01-04-2006, 07:46 PM
so Marat and Peter have to be happy IF the knee will hold and Marat can fully defend his title.

:cuckoo:

"Let's see if your knee will hold Marat!
....
....
Oopsy, it didn't... but at least we tried, didn't we? Now, have fun spending the rest of your life on the couch! See ya around buddy."

:cuckoo: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

NINA_BCN
01-04-2006, 07:48 PM
:cuckoo:

"Let's see if your knee will hold Marat!
....
....
Oopsy, it didn't... but at least we tried, didn't we? Now, have fun spending the rest of your life on the couch! See ya around buddy."

:cuckoo: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I read the article so fast that I hadn't realised of that :confused: sentence. :o

BelgianWaffle
01-04-2006, 07:49 PM
:cuckoo:

"Let's see if your knee will hold Marat!
....
....
Oopsy, it didn't... but at least we tried, didn't we? Now, have fun spending the rest of your life on the couch! See ya around buddy."

:cuckoo: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
That was very funny, in a rather cruel way :o

Sounds to me like they're rushing it, a little bit. :o

gwilwileth
01-04-2006, 07:50 PM
:cuckoo:

"Let's see if your knee will hold Marat!
....
....
Oopsy, it didn't... but at least we tried, didn't we? Now, have fun spending the rest of your life on the couch! See ya around buddy."

:cuckoo: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:retard: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash:

mer
01-04-2006, 07:53 PM
That was very funny, in a rather cruel way :o

Sounds to me like they're rushing it, a little bit. :o

well, I think this line means that they will make decision to play only if they are sure that the knee will hold.
Othervise it's :scared:

gwilwileth
01-04-2006, 07:56 PM
well, I think this line means that they will make decision to play only if they are sure that the knee will hold.

Hopefully! :rolleyes:

Meeek
01-04-2006, 08:00 PM
well, I think this line means that they will make decision to play only if they are sure that the knee will hold.
Othervise it's :scared:

Well, I'm kinda :scared: by the news they're still actually considering of having him play. I'd feel a lot better (and that's very important, my well-being ;) :p) if they would've stepped away from that thought by now. It would be a logic, wise and safe decision. After all, this isn't about breaking a nail.

maria87
01-04-2006, 08:01 PM
"04.01.06 Marat News
Marat took only a 3 day break in Moscow for New Year and then returned to Valencia to continue practice."

why they return to Valencia IF there is any chance to play in Australia? THAT doesn't make any sense either, just as the whole speech. :sad:

mer
01-04-2006, 08:05 PM
why they return to Valencia IF there is any chance to play in Australia? THAT doesn't make any sense either, just as the whole speech. :sad:

since they brought up 'miracle' thing it doesn't really matter where he's now Valencia, Australia or North Pole. It's a miracle we are hoping for after all! :shrug:

NINA_BCN
01-04-2006, 08:06 PM
Well, I'm kinda :scared: by the news they're still actually considering of having him play. I'd feel a lot better (and that's very important, my well-being ;) :p) if they would've stepped away from that thought by now. It would be a logic, wise and safe decision. After all, this isn't about breaking a nail.
Well, they wouldn't say it If they didn't think he's ready to play. :o He has been 5 months out of courts surrounded by doctors, trainers and phisios. :confused: Now, they must know how's the knee. :o

Meeek
01-04-2006, 08:08 PM
Well, they wouldn't say it If they didn't think he's ready to play. :o He has been 5 months out of courts surrounded by doctors, trainers and phisios. :confused: Now, they must know how's the knee. :o

True, but still, they're not sure. I was always tought "if you're not sure, don't do it". (often said at times of considering to buy clothing ;))
:shrug:

maria87
01-04-2006, 08:09 PM
since they brought up 'miracle' thing it doesn't really matter where he's now Valencia, Australia or North Pole. It's a miracle we are hoping for after all! :shrug:

yes, a remote miracle...but if he is in Valencia, and he went Moscow-Valencia, despite Moscow-Australia, the miracle seems more far away...going back and forward for so long distances seems not so smart more if the guy (our Marat) hates to fly, so i think the miracle won't be...:sad:

Damita
01-04-2006, 08:09 PM
Well, they wouldn't say it If they didn't think he's ready to play. :o He has been 5 months out of courts surrounded by doctors, trainers and phisios. :confused: Now, they must know how's the knee. :o
you think so? but there might be a difference between what they know and what they say... and also there's always a difference between what Marat says, what Dina syas, what Tarpi says.... typical :rolleyes: ;)

Meeek
01-04-2006, 08:11 PM
you think so? but there might be a difference between what they know and what they say... and also there's always a difference between what Marat says, what Dina syas, what Tarpi says.... typical :rolleyes: ;)

:lol:

NINA_BCN
01-04-2006, 08:12 PM
True, but still, they're not sure. I was always tought "if you're not sure, don't do it". (often said at times of considering to buy clothing ;))
:shrug:
Now, he's training in Valencia and he MUST see the reactions of his knee (if it hurts, is weak,... that kind of things).

Meeek
01-04-2006, 08:14 PM
Now, he's training in Valencia and he MUST see the reactions of his knee (if it hurts, is weak,... that kind of things).

Yeah, but he's been training and yet they can't say they're sure about anything.
It's doubts in every report. Don't sound good to me :shrug:

NINA_BCN
01-04-2006, 08:14 PM
you think so? but there might be a difference between what they know and what they say... and also there's always a difference between what Marat says, what Dina syas, what Tarpi says.... typical :rolleyes: ;)
:lol: You're totally right!!! We are talking about Marat and his troupe. :rolleyes:

NINA_BCN
01-04-2006, 08:16 PM
but he's been training and yet they can't say they're sure about anything.

That's because they don't want to say ANYTHING. :o

Meeek
01-04-2006, 08:18 PM
That's because they don't want to say ANYTHING. :o

Then they shouldn't say anything AT ALL ;) :p

Oh whatever...I'll go back to focussing on a family argument and the WTA tour now :banana:

mer
01-04-2006, 08:18 PM
you think so? but there might be a difference between what they know and what they say... and also there's always a difference between what Marat says, what Dina syas, what Tarpi says.... typical :rolleyes: ;)

So far everything seem to conform more or less to what Marat said himself in the intervews.

iced gem
01-04-2006, 08:52 PM
I really hope Marat doesn't rush it and play just for the sake of defending his title. :scared:

Curls
01-04-2006, 11:29 PM
i'm not sure we will ever hear that, i'd be happy with the 'knee is okay enough to play'
:yeah: ... sad but true

Curls
01-04-2006, 11:48 PM
I think they mean defending as in being in the draw and play. Not going there to win it again. At least that's how i understand it because in French we say 'defend a title' when the player goes to the tournament venue and plays at least one match. :shrug:
That's my take on it too ... he will 'defend' his title by being in the draw and making his way through the rounds ... they can't seriously expect him to make it to the Final though, can they? :shrug:

I didn't find anything strange in that little news snippet at all ... with the exception of the 'miracle' crap at the end. :rolleyes: What Marat needs is time, patience, excellent guidance and a positive attitude. The pressure & frustration he must be feeling from fans, sponsors, management, tournament directors, but most of all, from himself, must be immense. And the temptation to come back too soon would be overwhelming. :hug:

I get the feeling that up until recently Marat & Co had every intention of going to AO, but the knee just isn't quite ready :sad: ... and a bloody big :yeah: to them for making such a brave decision (if that's what they end up doing!). I'd much rather wait a bit longer to see him again, than risk a worse injury and never get to see him again :awww:

best wishes Marat :hug:

MariaV
01-05-2006, 06:43 AM
since they brought up 'miracle' thing it doesn't really matter where he's now Valencia, Australia or North Pole. It's a miracle we are hoping for after all! :shrug:
:haha: :haha: Btw I wanted to say I really don't believe in miracles. :tape: :sad:
OK, I'm out for the day now so take care girls. :hug: :hug:

MariaV
01-05-2006, 06:49 AM
Oh, but before I go and pammy's still around would you then as a native speaker explain the sentence: The thing to remember is that he is going to very hot temperatures and also to 5 set matches so Marat and Peter have to be happy that the knee will hold and Marat can fully defend his title.

How does 'have to be happy' and 'THAT' go together here? :confused: :unsure: I need a lesson in English, a lot of lessons actually, I know. :o Meanwhile I'll go interpreting into Finnish. :wavey:

Damita
01-05-2006, 08:04 AM
So far everything seem to conform more or less to what Marat said himself in the intervews.
This time yes, but i was saying that in general they're good at giving different informations. ;) Since last summer they kept saying different things. Once it was Tarpi and Marat's website having different point of views on the DC tie (i don't even remember who said what :p), then it was Dinara saying, during the Fed Cup final, that it was likely that Marat would not play before January while his official website still let us hop he'd be ready for Shanghai...

You've got to admire their communication skills ;)

linus
01-05-2006, 09:11 AM
every time he assured something, it made me nervous ;)

MariaV
01-05-2006, 12:25 PM
OK chicas, I'm back for a moment. Here the Eurosport article quote from Paul McNamee. I incline to believe him. :sad:
The reigning Australian Open men's champion Marat Safin is in serious doubt because of a long-term knee injury, French Open champion Rafael Nadal is in danger because of a foot problem and former Wimbledon champion Maria Sharapova is in jeopardy because of a shoulder complaint.

Australian Open tournament director Paul McNamee told reporters in Perth it was unlikely any of them would make it to Melbourne Park when the tournament starts on January 16.

"I'm sure by Monday or Tuesday there'll be a lot of information, because if you're not on a plane by Monday I don't think you're playing," he said.

/.../
Safin, who beat world number one Roger Federer in an epic semi-final last year before downing Australia's Lleyton Hewitt in the final, is unlikely to defend his title.

The big Russian has been sidelined since last year and recently pulled out of the Hopman Cup in Perth while his compatriot Sharapova withdrew from the Australian women's hardcourt championships because of her own ongoing injury problems.

"There's no word on Marat Safin, but I have significant doubts (he will play). I'd say he's definitely in doubt, but there's no word yet," McNamee said.

And here the link if you wanna be convinced yourself.
http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s57/e11348/sport_lng0_spo57_evt11348_sto809411.shtml

So we'll have the answer on Monday anyway.
:wavey:

maria87
01-05-2006, 01:24 PM
This time yes, but i was saying that in general they're good at giving different informations. ;) Since last summer they kept saying different things. Once it was Tarpi and Marat's website having different point of views on the DC tie (i don't even remember who said what :p), then it was Dinara saying, during the Fed Cup final, that it was likely that Marat would not play before January while his official website still let us hop he'd be ready for Shanghai...

You've got to admire their communication skills ;)

My opinion: official site never will say anything till the last moment as "official withdrew"....we have to listen dinara's word because she is very close to Marat and we have to "hear" Marat's words: if he said last days of december that he has still pain and he "hopes" to touch a racket soon and he has so much mails to run yet...if we can listen him carefully we could suppose he is not ready to play Aussi Open...and be patient and wait until he is better...that's all

Curls
01-05-2006, 01:50 PM
Oh, but before I go and pammy's still around would you then as a native speaker explain the sentence:

The thing to remember is that he is going to very hot temperatures and also to 5 set matches so Marat and Peter have to be happy that the knee will hold and Marat can fully defend his title.

How does 'have to be happy' and 'THAT' go together here? :confused: :unsure: I need a lesson in English, a lot of lessons actually, I know. :o Meanwhile I'll go interpreting into Finnish. :wavey:
Hi Maria :wavey:
I'm not too sure what you're asking :lol:, but here goes ...

instead of saying "have to be happy" they could've said:
Marat and Peter need to feel confident that the knee ...

with regards to using the two together - it's quite common to say "you have to be happy that ..." - it basically means - before you make a decision you must be sure/confident about ... so they could've said this:
... Marat and Peter must be sure about his knee so he can fully defend his title.

I hope this helps ... my brain is a bit fried at the moment as I've just come back from Russia V Serbia (actually the mixed doubles is still on, but I've had enough) ... the Serbian crowd were incredibly rowdy and my head is thumping!

MariaV
01-05-2006, 01:52 PM
Aww poor Pam!! :hug: :lol:
And thanks for the explanation, yeah, now I see what they mean. :D
I didn't know this meaning of 'happy' in the context.

Curls
01-05-2006, 01:58 PM
that's OK ...

poor Yuri got absolutely hammered by Novak 6-0 6-2 :o

I met up with Emily (Emilita) and we were so busy talking we almost missed the whole match :lol: ... and I was almost too scared to clap for Russia as there were sooooooo many Serbians there :eek: ... but the really funny thing was that the Serbs had about 12 people in their players box ... and the Russians had none :o ... I was soooooo tempted to sit there just to give poor ol' Yuri some support :yeah:

off to bed now ... USA V Netherlands final tomorrow night ... sounds like it'll be a fizzer, but anyway :wavey:

-SaFiinsBabY-
01-05-2006, 02:02 PM
lol :D ... good night Pam :hug:

Saumon
01-05-2006, 07:03 PM
that's OK ...

poor Yuri got absolutely hammered by Novak 6-0 6-2 :o

I met up with Emily (Emilita) and we were so busy talking we almost missed the whole match :lol: ... and I was almost too scared to clap for Russia as there were sooooooo many Serbians there :eek: ... but the really funny thing was that the Serbs had about 12 people in their players box ... and the Russians had none :o ... I was soooooo tempted to sit there just to give poor ol' Yuri some support :yeah:

off to bed now ... USA V Netherlands final tomorrow night ... sounds like it'll be a fizzer, but anyway :wavey:
did you take pics of baby novakito? :o :p

Meeek
01-05-2006, 08:10 PM
... USA V Netherlands final tomorrow night ... sounds like it'll be a fizzer, but anyway :wavey:

:banana: Hollaaaaaaaand!!!! :rocker2:
They must win... I know Michaella can trash Raymond. They should be able to beat them in doubles. Not sure about Wessels vs. Dent... But hey, 2 matches will do.

*fingers crossed*

Meeek
01-05-2006, 08:12 PM
http://www.hopmancup.com.au/upload/images/gallery/XVIII-Netherlands/DutchFan.jpg

:lol: Cute :) I'll resemble him at the Davis Cup :lol:

Meeek
01-05-2006, 08:15 PM
Right, for some reason I thought this was the gathering thread :lol:
It's Pam's fault! Booo Pam! ;)

MariaV
01-05-2006, 08:46 PM
LOL Mieke, since when do we care which thread it is? ;) :lol:

Saumon
01-05-2006, 08:48 PM
at least the netherlands will meet russia :shrug: :p

PennyThePenguin
01-06-2006, 03:44 AM
depressing thread :sad:

Curls
01-06-2006, 04:20 AM
http://www.hopmancup.com.au/upload/images/gallery/XVIII-Netherlands/DutchFan.jpg

:lol: Cute :) I'll resemble him at the Davis Cup :lol:
hopefully you'll remember to put your teeth in though ;)

Curls
01-06-2006, 04:22 AM
did you take pics of baby novakito? :o :p
yes I did .. I'm downloading them now ... they aren't very good though, as with no flash and only limited zoom it's almost an impossible task

mer
01-06-2006, 05:19 PM
http://news.sport-express.ru/online/ntext/11/nl115544.html

Lundgren said that decision re AO will be made by Jan 9. He came to Valencia to see Marat's condition and make final decision. He said that the knee is much better, Marat can run without problems. Marat will play only if he's 100%. He also said it's very hard for Marat not to play for so long, but he (Peter) will do everything to help him cope with this situation. :hug:

Российский теннисист Марат Сафин до 9 января примет решение об участии или отказе от выступления в первом в 2006 году турнире "Большого шлема" - Australian Open, который стартует 16 января. Об этом в интервью Агентству спортивной информации "Весь спорт" сообщил его персональный тренер Петер Лундгрен.
"Только сегодня я прилетел в Валенсию, чтобы посмотреть на состояние Марата, узнать, как он себя чувствует, и принять окончательное решение, - сказал Петер Лундгрен. - И уже сейчас могу сказать, что состояние его травмированного колена значительно улучшилось, Марат даже может свободно бегать, чего не было последние полгода. Еще пару дней я присмотрюсь, в какой физической форме находится Марат - и тогда мы решим, будем участвовать в Australian Open или нет. Чтобы все состоялось, Марат должен быть готов на 100 процентов".
Петер Лундгрен также подчеркнул, что для него общее состояние Сафина гораздо важнее, чем его участие в отдельном турнире. "Если не получится с Australian Open, мы будем готовиться к следующим соревнованиям, - сказал Петер Лундгрен. - Я знаю, что для Марата тяжело так долго не выходить на корт, однако он уже был в подобной ситуации, и я сделаю все, чтобы помочь ему справиться с этим".

rosespower
01-06-2006, 05:24 PM
thanks.....i cant wait to see the decision....i hope will be positive...

Shadow
01-06-2006, 05:24 PM
thanks mer!
finally some rather positive news. :)
"He said that the knee is much better, Marat can run without problems."
:bounce:


they will do the right decision!

mer
01-06-2006, 05:26 PM
thanks.....i cant wait to see the decision....i hope will be positive...

I hope it will be RIGHT ;)

rosespower
01-06-2006, 05:27 PM
:)

NINA_BCN
01-06-2006, 05:29 PM
Thank you Irina!!!!!!!!!! :hug: :kiss:

gwilwileth
01-06-2006, 05:40 PM
Thanks Irina :wavey: !
Thank god marat has peter on his side!!!!
That's kinda reliable news and positive ones too! :banana:

mer
01-06-2006, 05:58 PM
Thanks Irina :wavey: !
Thank god marat has peter on his side!!!!
That's kinda reliable news and positive ones too! :banana:

well, I hope they are reliable. but who knows, it's russian media after all :shrug:

gwilwileth
01-06-2006, 06:10 PM
well, I hope they are reliable. but who knows, it's russian media after all :shrug:

hm but somehow it really sounds like peter! :)

foul_dwimmerlaik
01-06-2006, 08:13 PM
I know it's kind of selfish of me, but I hope something fierse Marat would play. He shouldn't rush, he should take care of that damned knee, he ain't so young anymore blah blah blah, but I miss him so fucking much! I watch tennis and it just isn't the same without him, not the same at all, the AO more than any other tourney. AO is HIS tourney! Please, let the knee be good!

foul_dwimmerlaik
01-06-2006, 08:13 PM
PS Irochka, thanks for the news.

-SaFiinsBabY-
01-06-2006, 08:47 PM
Thanks a lot ... :hug:

Damita
01-07-2006, 11:38 AM
My opinion: official site never will say anything till the last moment as "official withdrew"....we have to listen dinara's word because she is very close to Marat and we have to "hear" Marat's words: if he said last days of december that he has still pain and he "hopes" to touch a racket soon and he has so much mails to run yet...if we can listen him carefully we could suppose he is not ready to play Aussi Open...and be patient and wait until he is better...that's all
I understand the official site waits the last moment to say if he withdraws, that's normal. Dinara didn't say he withdrew for the AMC if i remeber well, she said he was very unlikely to play for the rest of 2005.
And sure Dinara is reliable, she's his sister after all. But so should be the official website. Webby is supposed to to have contact with Marat team, so she should be a reliable source as well. Hence why it's not logical that at any given time we have contradictory info coming from Dina and Marat's official site. What's the use of an official site if it's not able to give info that comes from the man himself? :retard: It doesn't change much from a fansite or a public forum like here where all we do is speculating.

Thanks Iroshka :hug: :D
Tanya :wavey: :hug:

mer
01-07-2006, 11:50 AM
I know it's kind of selfish of me, but I hope something fierse Marat would play. He shouldn't rush, he should take care of that damned knee, he ain't so young anymore blah blah blah, but I miss him so fucking much! I watch tennis and it just isn't the same without him, not the same at all, the AO more than any other tourney. AO is HIS tourney! Please, let the knee be good!

Oh, Tanya, let's look at it from the other side. If he misses AO he'll save his usual yearly share of luck for other majors this time ;)
Yes, girls I said word LUCK :p

the cat
01-07-2006, 01:43 PM
I'm hoping Marat can have a healthy 2006 season. :) :tennis: But I have my doubts. I only hope he can play all 4 grand slams and help Russia in the Davis Cup. I think not having a healthy Safin last year was the difference in Russia not winning the 2005 Davis Cup. :(

Dosvidanya. :wavey:

Five
01-07-2006, 02:23 PM
Come on :fiery: :fiery:

mer
01-07-2006, 02:25 PM
:confused:

NINA_BCN
01-07-2006, 02:26 PM
:confused:
:shrug:

maria87
01-07-2006, 02:46 PM
I think maybe he will be in Valencia for next 3 months starting slowly his practice and then he will come back in April for clay season (for which Valencia practice is very good). And clay is the best surface for his knee. I think this is the plan and i think it is wise. My opinion and my thought.

Vass: does you agree with me about clay season???:confused: i posted here what i quoted above several weeks ago...i also discussed this in my board (http://bmaratsafinarttennis.runboard.com, Marat Safin, Tennis & Art) on a special thread i opened there , and my friend angela agree with me, she also added that MIami and Wells are not his best tournaments, so he should skip them and go directly to the clay season...
today i read you posted same thing on Safinator...i remark this because when i posted the thing here no one agree with me...on the contrary, people thought i was negative...

Kiara
01-07-2006, 04:22 PM
Marat is STILL in valencia?!!?!? :speakles:

If he's not ready, he's not ready i dont see how a couple of days are going to make a significant enough difference in his condition and the fact that they're leaving this until the very last minute doesnt exactly fill me with confidence in him even if he does play especially since he's going to have to play his best tennis though best of 5 matches, in the insane conditions in Australia straight off the plane from Europe(:retard: ) where is like minus degrees and where he's presumably training...indoors :help:

Id rather not see marat in australia at all than see him suffer there :awww:

BelgianWaffle
01-07-2006, 04:37 PM
Marat is STILL in valencia?!!?!? :speakles:

If he's not ready, he's not ready i dont see how a couple of days are going to make a significant enough difference in his condition and the fact that they're leaving this until the very last minute doesnt exactly fill me with confidence in him even if he does play especially since he's going to have to play his best tennis though best of 5 matches, in the insane conditions in Australia straight off the plane from Europe(:retard: ) where is like minus degrees and where he's presumably training...indoors :help:

Id rather not see marat in australia at all than see him suffer there :awww:
Breathe, darling, breathe! ;) :p

It doesn't look good and I agree with you: I'd rather see no Marat than an injured one.

Jimnik
01-08-2006, 12:58 PM
So, assuming he doesn't play at the AO, will he be in Davis Cup action in February when Russia visit the Netherlands?

Meeek
01-08-2006, 01:06 PM
So, assuming he doesn't play at the AO, will he be in Davis Cup action in February when Russia visit the Netherlands?

I assume he doesn't... but I hope I'm assuming wrong.

mer
01-08-2006, 01:08 PM
So, assuming he doesn't play at the AO, will he be in Davis Cup action in February when Russia visit the Netherlands?

I think he won't unless other russians are injured. But I think he'll be in the team :shrug:

Damita
01-08-2006, 01:21 PM
I assume he doesn't... but I hope I'm assuming wrong.
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you little traitor ;) :hug:

bellascarlett
01-08-2006, 02:31 PM
:wavey: guys! Came here to find news about Marat's chances for AO. I guess there isnt much too expect really huh? This is just too disappointing. :(...So he is still in Valencia? It just doesnt look too good. Oh well what can you do? The important thing is he recovers completely real soon. But I still pray to God he feels 100% to play AO!

rosespower
01-08-2006, 02:45 PM
the decision will beon the 9th acording to an article.....

MariaV
01-08-2006, 05:49 PM
Spassibo Irochka, I don't even read Sport Express any more. :o
And I really doubt he'll fly to Australia. As Kiara said, I rather not see him there at all than see him there suffering on court.

BelgianWaffle
01-08-2006, 06:32 PM
I don't think "dough" refers to the actual thick paste of milk, sugar and flour. I wouldn't be happy to find something like that in my icecream :lol:
My guess it's more like crushed chocolate chip cookies, mingled in with the ice cream. :scratch:
We need some americans in here, stat.
Nickster, Jamie, where are you :p
I stand corrected :o
My god, I didn't know they made ice cream that good :lick:
This cookie dough is really, really yummy :p

tall_one
01-08-2006, 08:53 PM
I stand corrected :o
My god, I didn't know they made ice cream that good :lick:
This cookie dough is really, really yummy :p
:lol:

NINA_BCN
01-08-2006, 08:56 PM
I stand corrected :o
My god, I didn't know they made ice cream that good :lick:
This cookie dough is really, really yummy :p
OMG!!!! :drool: Send a little bit to me!!!!!! ;)

mer
01-09-2006, 08:08 AM
Now Peter says the decision will be made on 12 Jan.

Решение об участии Марата Сафина в первом в нынешнем году турнире из серии "Большого шлема" Australian Open, стартующем 16 января, отложено еще на три дня - до 12 января. Об этом агентству спортивной информации "Весь спорт" сообщил Петер Лундгрен, личный тренер Марата Сафина.
"Я нахожусь вместе с Маратом в Валенсии уже несколько дней - и доволен его формой, - сообщил Петер Лундгрен. - Он выглядит бодрым, хорошо себя чувствует и очень активно тренируется. Но окончательное решение насчет Australian Open пока не принято. Я хочу еще несколько дней понаблюдать, как Марат чувствует себя на корте. До четверга есть время, чтобы взвесить все за и против - и принять окончательное решение об участии или неучастии в Australian Open".

rosespower
01-09-2006, 08:49 AM
the saga continues....

flavia_am
01-09-2006, 08:52 AM
Now Peter says the decision will be made on 12 Jan.
But Peter also says that all the sponsors have been informed about the possibilitu of no participate in AO.
I don't see the things well... :sad: I'm sorry for not being optimistic :sad:

mer
01-09-2006, 09:11 AM
But Peter also says that all the sponsors have been informed about the possibilitu of no participate in AO.
I don't see the things well... :sad: I'm sorry for not being optimistic :sad:

Peter said nothing about sponsors. You mean official site?
Anyway I just post some news. Peter says he's satisfied with Marat's shape, Marat feels ok and practices very actively. If it's all true than we can hope the injury is healed (at least for now) :unsure:
As for AO I think Peter won't let him make this mistake.

MariaV
01-09-2006, 09:16 AM
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????
They CANNOT be serious about flying to Mebourne on Thursday or smth????????? :scratch: :confused: The acclimatization would be the worst right when he starts playing i.e. thr 4-5th day. :rolleyes: He'll be as bad as in New York 2004. :tape: :ignore::ignore:

MariaV
01-09-2006, 09:19 AM
He must be really desperate to play there for some reason!!!!!!!! :haha: Seems he still cares about the ranking (and about the sponsors????) too much! :ignore: :ignore:

mer
01-09-2006, 09:20 AM
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????
They CANNOT be serious about flying to Mebourne on Thursday or smth????????? :scratch: :confused: The acclimatization would be the worst right when he starts playing i.e. thr 4-5th day. :rolleyes: He'll be as bad as in New York 2004. :tape: :ignore::ignore:

I think Marat is just too stubborn to admit he can't play. He wants to wait until last moment. :rolleyes:

MariaV
01-09-2006, 09:20 AM
Yeah, I'd really really LOOOVE to see pathetic sleepy Marat on court there! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :ignore: :ignore: :ignore:

MariaV
01-09-2006, 09:21 AM
OK, rants over for the day! I will always love him though, never doubt that!!!!! :hug: :hug:

mer
01-09-2006, 09:23 AM
Yeah, I'd really really LOOOVE to see pathetic sleepy Marat on court there! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :ignore: :ignore: :ignore:

Mashenka :hug: :hug:

flavia_am
01-09-2006, 09:45 AM
Peter said nothing about sponsors. You mean official site?
Anyway I just post some news. Peter says he's satisfied with Marat's shape, Marat feels ok and practices very actively. If it's all true than we can hope the injury is healed (at least for now) :unsure:
As for AO I think Peter won't let him make this mistake.
Yes mer I think I read that in official site :confused: :confused: I don't remember

Bibir
01-09-2006, 10:14 AM
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????
They CANNOT be serious about flying to Mebourne on Thursday or smth????????? :scratch: :confused: The acclimatization would be the worst right when he starts playing i.e. thr 4-5th day. :rolleyes: He'll be as bad as in New York 2004. :tape: :ignore::ignore:

:inlove: New York 2004!!!! :inlove:

Bibir
01-09-2006, 10:17 AM
I think Marat is just too stubborn to admit he can't play. He wants to wait until last moment. :rolleyes:
Clever as usual. :)

Thanks for the info.

maria87
01-09-2006, 12:02 PM
Peter said nothing about sponsors. You mean official site?
Anyway I just post some news. Peter says he's satisfied with Marat's shape, Marat feels ok and practices very actively. If it's all true than we can hope the injury is healed (at least for now) :unsure:
As for AO I think Peter won't let him make this mistake.

if you continuign reading the article in Russian, there is a phrase in which it is said that sponsors received the advise that he maybe will not play. This article in Russian you psoted is the same is posted in the official site, right? the one in which Peter says he is satisfied with Marat's condition now and the decision will be made on Thursday 12. After that there is the phrase about the soponsors.

this is the complete translation made by online translator

However, the main event of this week in the world
tennis for Russia must occur until January 12. To this day the solution about his participation into Australian Open of signs the acting champion is Russian Marat [Safin]. “I be situated together with Marat in Valencia already several days - and it is contented by his form, reported ASI “entire sport” the trainer of Russian Peter [Lundgren]. ? He appears cheerful, himself he feels well and very actively it is trained. But final decision about Australian Open is not thus far made. I want to [ponablyudat] still several days, as Marat he feels itself on Kort. Until Thursday there is time in order to weigh everything pro and con - and to make a final decision about the participation or the nonparticipation into Australian Open”.

Let us recall that [Safin], until now, finally was not restored after the severe injury of elbow which it broke to it entire past season. Marat already agreed with his personal sponsors that they would be ready to his possible failure of the protection of title on the open championship of Australia. By the way, until now, unclearly, will be able to participate in the tournament the last year's champion it is sulfurred Williams, who also finally was not restored after an entire series of injuries.

mer
01-09-2006, 12:16 PM
Let us recall that [Safin], until now, finally was not restored after the severe injury of elbow which it broke to it entire past season. Marat already agreed with his personal sponsors that they would be ready to his possible failure of the protection of title on the open championship of Australia. By the way, until now, unclearly, will be able to participate in the tournament the last year's champion it is sulfurred Williams, who also finally was not restored after an entire series of injuries.

I don't see this part in russian article :confused:
Anyway we know that official site said about sponsors. My point was that Peter didn't say anything about sponsors. It's irrelevant though.

alextennis
01-09-2006, 12:20 PM
it would be fantastic if he makes it to the aus open at the last minute n spring a surprise

MariaV
01-09-2006, 12:21 PM
:inlove: New York 2004!!!! :inlove:
You're being sarcastic right?

Bibir
01-09-2006, 12:26 PM
You're being sarcastic right?
What do you think? :unsure: :scared:

You think I'm that shallow. :sad:

MariaV
01-09-2006, 12:31 PM
Ahhhhhhh, I don't even know what to think any more. :ignore: :ignore: I thought USO 2004 was the rock bottom. I'd never ever wanna see him like that again. :o :o On the court I mean.
And as I've said before already, I don't believe in miracles. Although on the 2nd thought, only Marat could be capable of one. :hug: :)

Yeah, well, at least we have our sarcastic Béa back. :hug: :hug:
I try not to lose my optimism, you see. ;)

MariaV
01-09-2006, 12:34 PM
Awwww, I KNOW you're not shallow Béa!!! :hug: :hug:
I cannot goodrep you for all the quotes. :sad: I'll try to do it later or tomorrow.

flavia_am
01-09-2006, 12:38 PM
if you continuign reading the article in Russian, there is a phrase in which it is said that sponsors received the advise that he maybe will not play. This article in Russian you psoted is the same is posted in the official site, right? the one in which Peter says he is satisfied with Marat's condition now and the decision will be made on Thursday 12. After that there is the phrase about the soponsors.


[/B]. By the way, until now, unclearly, will be able to participate in the tournament the last year's champion it is sulfurred Williams, who also finally was not restored after an entire series of injuries.

That's what I was refering to!!! This is the article I've read from the russian press. Thanks Maria87!!!!SIZE]

linus
01-09-2006, 01:29 PM
with the date closer, i feel myself falling downer *sign*

Vass
01-09-2006, 04:29 PM
(Into the air) Marat wtf? When are you planning to go to Australia man?!

(Into the forum) I think Marat shoulve have went to Melburne two weeks ago,,, :( Sure it's a long flight, sure it would have been a waste if he doesn't play, but if he does it's the best way to prepare. *Sigh.* :(

Saumon
01-09-2006, 06:33 PM
Ahhhhhhh, I don't even know what to think any more. :ignore: :ignore: I thought USO 2004 was the rock bottom. I'd never ever wanna see him like that again. :o :o On the court I mean.
And as I've said before already, I don't believe in miracles. Although on the 2nd thought, only Marat could be capable of one. :hug: :)

I dont remember the 2004 USO AT ALL :unsure: for some reason it's been erased of my memory :shrug: (probably because at that time I was more worried about moving to another city and living alone for the 1st times in my life :o )

Saumon
01-09-2006, 06:33 PM
I think Marat shoulve have went to Melburne two weeks ago,,, :( Sure it's a long flight, sure it would have been a waste if he doesn't play, but if he does it's the best way to prepare. *Sigh.* :(
Marat :retard:

Vass
01-09-2006, 06:41 PM
I dont remember the 2004 USO AT ALL :unsure: for some reason it's been erased of my memory :shrug: (probably because at that time I was more worried about moving to another city and living alone for the 1st times in my life :o )
I wasn't worried about moving, but i don't remember it too well too. :o
THe first round thing after the Olympics? I know that, but i don't remember anything special about it. :o

Bibir
01-09-2006, 07:30 PM
And what about the post US Open 2004, you don't remember it??

The hippononymous thread!
The " Marat should retire and open a night club" kind of posts!
etc,...

Saumon
01-09-2006, 07:53 PM
And what about the post US Open 2004, you don't remember it??

The hippononymous thread!
The " Marat should retire and open a night club" kind of posts!
etc,...
I dont :shrug: "Join Date: Jan 2005"


(au fait il faut que tu rajoutes le "The" dans ta sig :angel: )

Bibir
01-09-2006, 08:56 PM
I dont :shrug: "Join Date: Jan 2005"
You joined after his AO 2005 trophy?

Tu étais donc une de ces fameuses teenies qui avait tellement honte d'être une teenie qu'elle s'est fait passé pour gay ??? :devil:

maria87
01-09-2006, 09:00 PM
That's what I was refering to!!! This is the article I've read from the russian press. Thanks Maria87!!!!SIZE]

no problem! :yeah:

maria87
01-09-2006, 09:03 PM
(Into the air) Marat wtf? When are you planning to go to Australia man?!

(Into the forum) I think Marat shoulve have went to Melburne two weeks ago,,, :( Sure it's a long flight, sure it would have been a waste if he doesn't play, but if he does it's the best way to prepare. *Sigh.* :(


Hey Vass, i left a message for you about our opinions on clay season...didn't you see it?

Saumon
01-09-2006, 09:05 PM
You joined after his AO 2005 trophy?

Tu étais donc une de ces fameuses teenies qui avait tellement honte d'être une teenie qu'elle s'est fait passé pour gay ??? :devil:
ouais j'avoue je suis pas du tout fan depuis 8 ans :o :p
je sais meme plus pourquoi je m'etais inscrite :scratch: ah si pour rependre une fausse rumeur je crois :devil: ça aurait bien marché à l'époque mais mon compte a mis plus d'un mois à etre activé et c'etait loupé :banghead: :crazy:

sorry for the french, but it's not interesting :angel: ;)

maria87
01-10-2006, 10:53 AM
From Fox Sports today

"Russian Safin is said to be devastated at his struggle to be fit to defend the centenary Open title he wrestled Lleyton Hewitt for last year after being sidelined for virtually six months with knee soreness.

McNamee said Safin's chances of contesting the Open were fading, but "there is no news".

Vass
01-10-2006, 11:15 AM
Hey Vass, i left a message for you about our opinions on clay season...didn't you see it?
I read your messege only today...
It was a mistake...
Mainly because i have no opinions about the clay season, and to be honest, am not sure what you were talking about. :o

maria87
01-10-2006, 11:17 AM
I read your messege only today...
It was a mistake...
Mainly because i have no opinions about the clay season, and to be honest, am not sure what you were talking about. :o

thanks for the reply! i was talking about the message was posted in Safinator
by Vass, wasn't you?

Sorry, sorry, my mistake!!! it was Vlad and not Vass!!! sorry again

maria87
01-10-2006, 11:43 AM
Anyway, i received your opinion about clay season and i think you are right, i am changing my opinion...considering last news and comment, probably he won't wait so long to come back!

Bibir
01-10-2006, 03:21 PM
Nothing new but...

From the courrier mail
Safin is poised to become the first defending champion since Andre Agassi (wrist) in 2002 to be unable to defend the Australian Open.

Because of severe knee pain, the Russian has not played since reaching the Cincinnati quarter-finals in August.

The baseliner spent three days in Moscow over the New Year break before returning to Valencia in Spain to work with his Swedish coach Peter Lundgren.

The muscles around Safin's knee have wasted because he has not been able practise at full intensity.

Last year the Russian was determined to avoid surgery. Now he may have no option.

McNamee said Safin's agent Gerard Tsobarian had contacted him to say "Marat, unfortunately, was very doubtful".

"We're likely to learn definitely tomorrow morning," McNamee said. "It's not dead, but it's not looking good."

Agnes
01-10-2006, 03:31 PM
Well, thanx Bibir.
There's no hope we can say.
:sad:

Bibir
01-10-2006, 03:42 PM
Well, thanx Bibir.
There's no hope we can say.
:sad:
Unless you believe in miracles :help:

Hi josh! :D

Deea
01-10-2006, 03:46 PM
Nothing is certain yet...aahhh :( I wish we would finally find out what is going on.

Dessislava
01-10-2006, 03:50 PM
Bibir,i taught you werent interested in tennis,but in Safins "big thiny uiny thingy" or something like that:)

mer
01-10-2006, 06:22 PM
"10.01.06 Marat News
Marat has today advised of his withdrawal from the Australian Open. Despite the knee allowing Marat to now practice extensively on court and he was feeling much better than before, a decision had to be made that he was just not ready to play Grand Slam tennis. As Marat said:" I am very sad that I cannot go to the Australian Open to defend my title as Champion. I have been working very hard and it is a lot better. In my heart I know I want to be at the Australian Open to try to play but I have had to listen to what Peter, my team and also myself are saying that it would not be right to go to a Grand Slam and put so much test on my knee right now. I am sorry to all my Australian fans but I will be back next year!"
Marat intends to keep working on his fitness and it is intended that he will make his return in Marseilles on the 13th February."

NINA_BCN
01-10-2006, 06:24 PM
"10.01.06 Marat News
Marat has today advised of his withdrawal from the Australian Open. Despite the knee allowing Marat to now practice extensively on court and he was feeling much better than before, a decision had to be made that he was just not ready to play Grand Slam tennis. As Marat said:" I am very sad that I cannot go to the Australian Open to defend my title as Champion. I have been working very hard and it is a lot better. In my heart I know I want to be at the Australian Open to try to play but I have had to listen to what Peter, my team and also myself are saying that it would not be right to go to a Grand Slam and put so much test on my knee right now. I am sorry to all my Australian fans but I will be back next year!"
Marat intends to keep working on his fitness and it is intended that he will make his return in Marseilles on the 13th February."
OMFG!!!!! :sobbing:

Dessislava
01-10-2006, 06:25 PM
Wow! A lot of information. Where do you get it from? Is there sth about Gaston Gaudio? I wanted to know if he is playing the A open

Dessislava
01-10-2006, 06:26 PM
OMFG!!!!! :sobbing:
What does this mean for christe sake? :confused: :angel:

gwilwileth
01-10-2006, 06:26 PM
"10.01.06 Marat News
Marat has today advised of his withdrawal from the Australian Open. Despite the knee allowing Marat to now practice extensively on court and he was feeling much better than before, a decision had to be made that he was just not ready to play Grand Slam tennis. As Marat said:" I am very sad that I cannot go to the Australian Open to defend my title as Champion. I have been working very hard and it is a lot better. In my heart I know I want to be at the Australian Open to try to play but I have had to listen to what Peter, my team and also myself are saying that it would not be right to go to a Grand Slam and put so much test on my knee right now. I am sorry to all my Australian fans but I will be back next year!"
Marat intends to keep working on his fitness and it is intended that he will make his return in Marseilles on the 13th February."
:sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

:hysteric: No marat at the OZ open!!!
But probably the smartest decision they could make!
And it's only one more month till we have him back on court :bounce:

gwilwileth
01-10-2006, 06:28 PM
OMFG!!!!! :sobbing:
:hug: :hug: :hug: just one mare month hun!!!

mer
01-10-2006, 06:30 PM
I realised now that despite damn common sense I was still hoping for the miracle deep inside. :bigcry:

Saumon
01-10-2006, 06:31 PM
Rafa and Marat the SAME DAY!! that's too much!!http://yelims.free.fr/Groumph/Triste20.gif :crying2: :sobbing: :tears: :bigcry: :awww:

NINA_BCN
01-10-2006, 06:31 PM
:hug: :hug: :hug: just one mare month hun!!!
I don't want to wait more!!!! :banghead: Marat's come back to courts will take much more time than the opening of the spa. :o

NINA_BCN
01-10-2006, 06:32 PM
Rafa and Marat the SAME DAY!! that's too much!!http://yelims.free.fr/Groumph/Triste20.gif :crying2: :sobbing: :tears: :bigcry: :awww:
RAFA????? :eek: :crying2:

Dessislava
01-10-2006, 06:35 PM
Oh,who gives a shit! Noone will play at Australian open anyway! Everybody feels sick so we wont see what we want anyway!!!!And the stupid bulgarian TV annoys me!

Saumon
01-10-2006, 06:36 PM
Marat's come back to courts will take much more time than the opening of the spa. :o
:o

gwilwileth
01-10-2006, 06:36 PM
HUGE group :hug:
Think we all were hoping for a miracle!

Saumon
01-10-2006, 06:38 PM
RAFA????? :eek: :crying2:
yes :(

and the australian open 2006 winner is....

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:retard:

NINA_BCN
01-10-2006, 06:39 PM
HUGE group :hug:
Think we all were hoping for a miracle!
I've never believed in miracles but I expected one this time. :sad:

NINA_BCN
01-10-2006, 06:41 PM
yes :(

and the australian open 2006 winner is....

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I'll kill youuuu!!!! http://yelims2.free.fr/Feu/Feu12.gif

gwilwileth
01-10-2006, 06:42 PM
I've never believed in miracles but I expected one this time. :sad:
I soooo know what you mean! :sad:

gwilwileth
01-10-2006, 06:43 PM
I'll kill youuuu!!!! http://yelims2.free.fr/Feu/Feu12.gif

Need some help?? :mad:

NINA_BCN
01-10-2006, 06:43 PM
I soooo know what you mean! :sad:
:hug: :hug: