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Bogomolov Jnr. defeats Fena Gonzalez 4-6 7-6 6-3 6-7 7-5

its.like.that
01-17-2006, 09:00 AM
Come on everyone, let's help Fena out, he sure needs it.

:rocker2:

adee-gee
01-17-2006, 09:02 AM
Do I presume you've got money on him?

its.like.that
01-17-2006, 09:07 AM
Do I presume you've got money on him?

Unlike yourself and Jez, I don't back players under 1.20 odds.

;)

:lol:

rrfnpump
01-17-2006, 09:09 AM
oh no Fena :sad: :bigcry:
that was pathetic

Consigliere
01-17-2006, 09:09 AM
that was a great match!

adee-gee
01-17-2006, 09:10 AM
Unlike yourself and Jez, I don't back players under 1.20 odds.

;)

:lol:
I don't either :shrug:

Anyway, :eek: at the result.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
01-17-2006, 09:12 AM
That's fucking unbelievable, :fiery::armed::banghead: but seemed he didn't give up,have to accept that!
BTW hope his shoulder will be fine soon. :)

OddJob
01-17-2006, 09:15 AM
All hail BOGIE! :worship:

Consigliere
01-17-2006, 09:19 AM
we never see passion like that in tennis.

those two i thought they were gonna have a punch up (literally were screaming at each other)

great entertainment,

im a fan of alex now

Gonzo Hates Me!
01-17-2006, 09:19 AM
ugh. totally and utterly disgusted. well, he and his lil' wife harkleroad will both get slapped around in r2, and i look forward to it

Scotso
01-17-2006, 09:24 AM
ugh. totally and utterly disgusted. well, he and his lil' wife harkleroad will both get slapped around in r2, and i look forward to it

Alex getting slapped around in the second round would only make Gonzo's loss to him in the first round look more pathetic, no? :shrug:

Aleksa's Laydee
01-17-2006, 09:24 AM
Fernando...:sad::sad:

Gonzo Hates Me!
01-17-2006, 09:31 AM
Alex getting slapped around in the second round would only make Gonzo's loss to him in the first round look more pathetic, no? :shrug:

i don't think like that, sorry

Tricky_Forehand
01-17-2006, 09:53 AM
we never see passion like that in tennis.

those two i thought they were gonna have a punch up (literally were screaming at each other)

I was wondering about that. Going by just a SB you obviously missed out on a lot but I was figuring that Alex was probably getting pissed and/or irritated in there somewhere.

great entertainment,

im a fan of alex now

Good to hear!! :yeah:

Tricky_Forehand
01-17-2006, 09:56 AM
All hail BOGIE! :worship:

:)

Horatio Caine
01-17-2006, 09:58 AM
Unlike yourself and Jez, I don't back players under 1.20 odds.

;)

:lol:

Name me a player I backed at less than 1.36 today ;)

linus
01-17-2006, 11:11 AM
too wonderful :D

Action Jackson
01-17-2006, 11:13 AM
Bad result, but funny match with plenty of shenanigans.

cobalt60
01-17-2006, 11:20 AM
Bad result, but funny match with plenty of shenanigans.
Did you see it? And good on Alex! He was due.

Action Jackson
01-17-2006, 11:23 AM
Did you see it? And good on Alex! He was due.

Yes, I saw it.

*Viva Chile*
01-17-2006, 01:43 PM
Bad match for Feña :( I hope it will be the last pathetic match of the year for him :sad:

And yeah, for the incident... Feña offers Bogomolov to fight after match in locker rooms, because Bogomolov Jr. bad behavior on court. Feña said it in spanish and Bogomolov, the russian american who lived in Mexico for around 5 years understood all the words, that was the reason coz the commisioner had to come on court to calm the atmosphere :o

Neely
01-17-2006, 02:12 PM
On TV they only showed about 10 minutes of this match, but it looked like great entertainment and I'm glad for the win of Bogomolov Jr. Very good for him that he won this long five-setter now, I still remember his match as he was forced to retire at the beginning of the fifth set to Verkerk in 2003. Also two tiebreak sets and a longer match. And in 2004, he lost another five set match to Koubek in a first round of a Slam.

That was about time he pulls out such a match, and knocking out a seed like Gonzalez has to be rated even higher! :yeah:

NicoFan
01-17-2006, 02:23 PM
Bad match for Feña :( I hope it will be the last pathetic match of the year for him :sad:

And yeah, for the incident... Feña offers Bogomolov to fight after match in locker rooms, because Bogomolov Jr. bad behavior on court. Feña said it in spanish and Bogomolov, the russian american who lived in Mexico for around 5 years understood all the words, that was the reason coz the commisioner had to come on court to calm the atmosphere :o

I had a feeling when I read about the incident that it was something that Alex provoked. Fernando normally behaves very well on court. There have been a couple things, but that could be said for any player.

I was sad that Fernando lost - now I wish he would have pounded Alex. :mad:

Sparko1030
01-17-2006, 02:37 PM
:tears: Poor Fena....better luck at Vina del Mar :kiss:

Deboogle!.
01-17-2006, 02:39 PM
I saw the score this morning and :eek:

What was this "incident"? Can someone elaborate for those of us not privileged to see it?

cobalt60
01-17-2006, 02:51 PM
I keep reading mixed information Deb- from what I can gather Gonzalez got mad at Bogie because Bogie was celebrating any points he won. The usual and other players do that as well. But I would like to hear about what happened by those who actually saw it as well.

lau
01-17-2006, 02:54 PM
I´m so sorry I felt asleep :sad: I have the impression that pretty interesting things were said in Spanish during those last sets by the players and the crowd :devil: :p

Julio1974
01-17-2006, 03:05 PM
I'm beginnig to like Alex..

By the way, had Coria or Hewitt behaved as these two behaved yesterday we would have here a thread with 1,000 posts talking about lack of class, etc etc etc.

NicoFan
01-17-2006, 03:45 PM
Sounds to me like two guys that were in a tight match where emotions started to fly. Its no biggie.

On top of it, Fernando's shoulder is bothering him.

I realizing asking for compassion and understanding here on MTF is like asking for world peace, but any player would be upset if they are worried about having something major being wrong with them physically.

Deboogle!.
01-17-2006, 03:48 PM
By the way, had Coria or Hewitt behaved as these two behaved yesterday we would have here a thread with 1,000 posts talking about lack of class, etc etc etc.I just am curious to know what happened. Did you see the match, can you describe it? Just curious :lol:

ae wowww
01-17-2006, 03:55 PM
:hatoff: Too good ABJ!

joyk
01-17-2006, 03:56 PM
By the way, had Coria or Hewitt behaved as these two behaved yesterday we would have here a thread with 1,000 posts talking about lack of class, etc etc etc.
Thank you!
When Coria or Hewitt fight with the umpire or with other players it`s called "disgusting behaviour",when other players do it it`s called "entertainment",why is that?

mongo
01-17-2006, 04:13 PM
That's very troubling. I was expecting him to hold it together until the quarters.

NicoFan
01-17-2006, 04:13 PM
Thank you!
When Coria or Hewitt fight with the umpire or with other players it`s called "disgusting behaviour",when other players do it it`s called "entertainment",why is that?

Because the other players only do it now and again...Hewitt and Guille do it all the time.

Personally I find Guille entertaining. But I realize why some people find his behavior to be offfensive at times.

shotgun
01-17-2006, 04:16 PM
Yeah, well, not intending to defend Coria or Hewitt here - I don't know about Bogomolov Jr., but Gonzalez didn't exactly have a clean sheet before this match.

There's a proverb here that says "when one doesn't want to, two don't fight each other". :p

I personally admit that I enjoy this kind of thing when it's not a dirty tactic employed by one of the players to steal the concentration of the opponent. Which seems to be the case here, it was just a matter of emotions burning out, so it's fine by me. No need for hypocrisy. ;)

NicoFan
01-17-2006, 04:29 PM
Yeah, well, not intending to defend Coria or Hewitt here - I don't know about Bogomolov Jr., but Gonzalez didn't exactly have a clean sheet before this match.

There's a proverb here that says "when one doesn't want to, two don't fight each other". :p

I personally admit that I enjoy this kind of thing when it's not a dirty tactic employed by one of the players to steal the concentration of the opponent. Which seems to be the case here, it was just a matter of emotions burning out, so it's fine by me. No need for hypocrisy. ;)

I'm not being hypocritical. :confused:

I never said that Fernando behaved well. I just said actually what you are saying - that it was some passionate behavior in a tight match - no biggie.

And that Fernando's shoulder was bothering him so that might have upset him. That's also not hypocritical.

Also said I didn't know anything about Alex.

I didn't see the match (unfortunately we only get Americans here in the US - and Shriekapova). But I've read the comments, and can only base my comments on those.

So what is hypocritical about that?

Fernando doesn't have a clean sheet on behavior. But what player does? And he certainly isn't bad all the time on court. He's very popular on the circuit. Which should tell us something.

R.Federer
01-17-2006, 04:34 PM
Unbelievable! Did not expect this result. Poor Fena....

But Congratulations AB Jr.!

Deboogle!.
01-17-2006, 04:37 PM
Thank you!
When Coria or Hewitt fight with the umpire or with other players it`s called "disgusting behaviour",when other players do it it`s called "entertainment",why is that?Well I didn't see this match. In fact I've twice asked people who saw it to explain what happened. I'm not a fan when players unnecessarily get in the other's face, I think sometimes it's ok and sometimes it crosses the line and I think Hewitt and Coria are high-profile players so we see them more. But for example, Hewitt bothers me a lot, but he didn't bother me in his match against Vik because it never crossed a line. So it just depends. But I am trying to find out what happened in this match between Bogie and Gonzo :shrug: lol

Tricky_Forehand
01-17-2006, 04:37 PM
Post #23 you blame it on Alex and now it's "no biggie" when it's mentioned that Gonzo has done this before :rolleyes:

Deboogle!.
01-17-2006, 04:45 PM
Post #23 you blame it on Alex and now it's "no biggie" when it's mentioned that Gonzo has done this before :rolleyes:I'm not saying I agree with NicoFan, but I think saying that one person may have caused an incident and saying the incident was not a big deal are mutually exclusive thoughts :confused:

+alonso
01-17-2006, 04:45 PM
Ha Ha Ha!!! :rolleyes:

I Woke up and! Well, Fena lost... kind of expected....
I just knew it the first thing I was going to see on mtf was a thread like that

Let's hope he can rest his shoulder.. I'm way tooo pissed to talk about.. after seeing Vik - Hewitt! and Vik losing it! :rolleyes:

NicoFan
01-17-2006, 04:48 PM
Post #23 you blame it on Alex and now it's "no biggie" when it's mentioned that Gonzo has done this before :rolleyes:

Tennis724 - yet again, I'm going by what I am reading in other posts. I'm not the one that originally blamed Alex.

And yet again, I know that Fernando is not an angel. How many times do I have to say it.

Do you want me to do a review for you - because I bet I know the incidents better than you do over Fernando. :rolleyes:

And in the end, I don't think its a biggie. Would I like to see Fernnando pound Alex next time? Oh most certainly. Just like I'd like to see Nico pound Guille next time - and I didn't think that was a biggie at the time, and I was in attendence at the match. Just a little tennis fun. Just like the old McEnroe and Connors feud that I grew up with where I always wanted to see McEnroe pound Connors.

You like Alex.

I like Fernando.

Of course you're going to take Alex's side, and of course, I'm going to take Fernando's side.

End of story.

shotgun
01-17-2006, 04:49 PM
I'm not being hypocritical. :confused:

I never said that Fernando behaved well. I just said actually what you are saying - that it was some passionate behavior in a tight match - no biggie.

And that Fernando's shoulder was bothering him so that might have upset him. That's also not hypocritical.

Also said I didn't know anything about Alex.

I didn't see the match (unfortunately we only get Americans here in the US - and Shriekapova). But I've read the comments, and can only base my comments on those.

So what is hypocritical about that?

My post wasn't specifically directed to you, nor to anyone personally. Relax.

Fernando doesn't have a clean sheet on behavior. But what player does? And he certainly isn't bad all the time on court. He's very popular on the circuit. Which should tell us something.

I'm sorry, but I disagree with you on this. I don't mean to attack him, he seems to be a really nice person off court (hence his popularity on the circuit, as you put), but his behaviour on court is clearly not among the best. His way to cheer his points is a bit too agressive in my opinion, and of course I don't think he does that to annoy his opponents, it's just his personality and a way to reassure his self-confidence, I guess, rather than a dirty tactic. Then again, if he meets players who tend to get intense on court, shit is likely to happen, as it did in the past. :shrug:

joyk
01-17-2006, 04:57 PM
Because the other players only do it now and again...Hewitt and Guille do it all the time.

Personally I find Guille entertaining. But I realize why some people find his behavior to be offfensive at times.
I like players with a little fire,it`s boring when they act like gentlemens.I`m sorry I didn`t see the match between Gonzo and Alex,it sounds good.My problem is that everything Coria does is interpreted in a negative way,for example Marat fights with the umpire and nobody has a problem with that but when Guille does it people call him a jerk.

NicoFan
01-17-2006, 05:05 PM
I'm sorry, but I disagree with you on this. I don't mean to attack him, he seems to be a really nice person off court (hence his popularity on the circuit, as you put), but his behaviour on court is clearly not among the best. His way to cheer his points is a bit too agressive in my opinion, and of course I don't think he does that to annoy his opponents, it's just his personality and a way to reassure his self-confidence, I guess, rather than a dirty tactic. Then again, if he meets players who tend to get intense on court, shit is likely to happen, as it did in the past. :shrug:

Yet again, I bet I can tell you the incidents over Fernando better than you can. Yet again, I know that he isn't an angel.

But to say that his behavior on court isn't among the best is a vast overstatement. Let's think of some of the recent "bad" behavior of current players. You know the incidents I'm taking about. Was Fernando in any of them? No.

As I said, its one thing to have a fun passionate match where things slightly get out of control and a lively fun feud between their fans, and this overreaction where people feel the need to rip a player apart and overstate their behavior.

And I"m outta here. I know better than to get into these pissing contests on GM where everyone overreacts. :bolt:

+alonso
01-17-2006, 05:05 PM
I know it is Off topic.. But neither Massu or Gonzo can have both a nice year,, I mean together.. Last year.. Massu mostly lost and did not have any title or something.. and Fena played great, reaching QF in Wimby and stuff.
Now both are doing it so bad in Australia.. let's hope they can start to climb again!

*Viva Chile*
01-17-2006, 05:07 PM
Well I didn't see this match. In fact I've twice asked people who saw it to explain what happened. I'm not a fan when players unnecessarily get in the other's face, I think sometimes it's ok and sometimes it crosses the line and I think Hewitt and Coria are high-profile players so we see them more. But for example, Hewitt bothers me a lot, but he didn't bother me in his match against Vik because it never crossed a line. So it just depends. But I am trying to find out what happened in this match between Bogie and Gonzo :shrug: lol
Simply Bogomolov started to celebrate too much every point that he made, and and to mofar of the errors that Fernando committed, and then Feña seemed to be irritated for this behavior. Later in a interview, Feña reduced importance to the incident.

Deboogle!.
01-17-2006, 05:09 PM
Simply Bogomolov started to celebrate too much every point that he made, and and to mofar of the errors that Fernando committed, and then Feña seemed to be irritated for this behavior. Later in a interview, Feña reduced importance to the incident. Thank you :) I wasn't sure if it was like this or if one specific thing happened to incite someone.

Doesn't sound like it was that big of a deal indeed. :)

Sparko1030
01-17-2006, 05:13 PM
Without seeing the match or hearing from someone who did my guess it was a mix of stress on Fena's part from wanting to do well at an open esp and just the length of the match. WIsh I had been able to see but you know coverage in the US :rolleyes: ....Until we get more info its probably prudent to not blame anyone...I know zilch about the personality of Alex but as far as Fernando goes I do know the times he has lost his temper on court there was something to set him off-bad call, opponents antics. Perhaps niether is the villian here, just normal height of the battles emotions...And in the end I won't fault a person for something I might have done in the same circumstance.

Julio1974
01-17-2006, 05:13 PM
Thank you :) I wasn't sure if it was like this or if one specific thing happened to incite someone.

Doesn't sound like it was that big of a deal indeed. :)

Gonzalez got mad. He also wanted to kick his ass in the locker room, according to the media.

Deboogle!.
01-17-2006, 05:16 PM
Gonzalez got mad. He also wanted to kick his ass in the locker room, according to the media.oh :eek:

Sparko1030
01-17-2006, 05:16 PM
I know it is Off topic.. But neither Massu or Gonzo can have both a nice year,, I mean together.. Last year.. Massu mostly lost and did not have any title or something.. and Fena played great, reaching QF in Wimby and stuff.
Now both are doing it so bad in Australia.. let's hope they can start to climb again!

Yes, better results for both of them the rest of the year Alonso!!! :yeah:

Julio1974
01-17-2006, 05:18 PM
I know it is Off topic.. But neither Massu or Gonzo can have both a nice year,, I mean together.. Last year.. Massu mostly lost and did not have any title or something.. and Fena played great, reaching QF in Wimby and stuff.
Now both are doing it so bad in Australia.. let's hope they can start to climb again!

Gonzalez sooner or later will be in the top 10. From what I read, he was not 100 % yesterday. As for Nico, well, I don't know. He's a fighter but ... I wish it was the opposite situation, actually.

*Viva Chile*
01-17-2006, 05:20 PM
Gonzalez got mad. He also wanted to kick his ass in the locker room, according to the media.
I said the same in my first post, but you don't have to bash on Gonzo every time that he have an incident or misunderstood on court :rolleyes: I dislike Coria, but not for this I bash him every time that I can. And I don't say that Fernando is an angel on court too. ;)

Deea
01-17-2006, 05:23 PM
This result is simply :lol: :haha: I simply can't believe it! :haha:

shotgun
01-17-2006, 05:28 PM
Yet again, I bet I can tell you the incidents over Fernando better than you can. Yet again, I know that he isn't an angel.

Probably yes, you follow his career more than I do. On the other hand, as you just pointed out to other poster, you're going to stand by his side no matter what, as a fan.

But to say that his behavior on court isn't among the best is a vast overstatement. Let's think of some of the recent "bad" behavior of current players. You know the incidents I'm taking about. Was Fernando in any of them? No.

Well, I guess we're talking about different incidents then.

As I said, its one thing to have a fun passionate match where things slightly get out of control and a lively fun feud between their fans, and this overreaction where people feel the need to rip a player apart and overstate their behavior.

As I said, I didn't mean to attack Gonzalez - and I don't think I'm trying to rip anyone apart here, if that's what you are trying to mean. I was just trying to offer my point of view on the topic without any prejudice. It's OK, I have my opinion, you have yours. And that's it. :)

Julio1974
01-17-2006, 05:28 PM
I said the same in my first post, but you don't have to bash on Gonzo every time that he have an incident or misunderstood on court :rolleyes: I dislike Coria, but not for this I bash him every time that I can. And I don't say that Fernando is an angel on court too. ;)

I did not bash Gonzo. In fact, I think this kind of matches are entertaining. Players are human and have the right to react under big pressure. What I said is that if Coria or Hewitt had done this, they would be bash, as they were in fact destroyed for what they did in the DC match.

+alonso
01-17-2006, 05:31 PM
Gonzalez sooner or later will be in the top 10. From what I read, he was not 100 % yesterday. As for Nico, well, I don't know. He's a fighter but ... I wish it was the opposite situation, actually.
Sure, You're right :yeah: But the situation it's soo frustrating :(
I remember a couple of Fena's matches losing against top-100 or 200 like Ivan Navarro Pastor and so.
I think if He wants to be top 10, He can't allow himself loses like the one against Bogomolov

Ohh, about the behaviour on court.. I won't tell anything.. all the players have its days sucking and whinning about nothing..

cobalt60
01-17-2006, 05:34 PM
Ohh, about the behaviour on court.. I won't tell anything.. all the players have its days sucking and whinning about nothing..
;)

NicoFan
01-17-2006, 05:42 PM
Probably yes, you follow his career more than I do. On the other hand, as you just pointed out to other poster, you're going to stand by his side no matter what, as a fan.

As I said, I didn't mean to attack Gonzalez - and I don't think I'm trying to rip anyone apart here, if that's what you are trying to mean. I was just trying to offer my point of view on the topic without any prejudice. It's OK, I have my opinion, you have yours. And that's it. :)

Okay, truce. :)

But clarification - I wouldn't stand by his side no matter what. If he did something that I felt was very wrong, I would say so. I have in the past about him and other favorites of mine, and I will always continue to do so.

But in a situation where its just passionate oncourt craziness - yeah, certainly, I'll take Fernando's side over anyone elses (except Nico's). ;)

And just a general statement (not directed at you) about his challenge to Alex at the end. I just can't get upset and all worked up over a little trash talking. I actually find it amusing. :p

Action Jackson
01-17-2006, 09:24 PM
Shut up about Hewitt and Coria and their match at DC was highly entertaining and the crowd love this sort of stuff.

Bogomolov gets fired up anyway and the Chilean fans were giving him some stick and Gonzo did have some problems, but the fact is that Bogomolov was able to take the match and Feña played so many dropshots and even hit an underhand serve.

Yes, Feña offered to settle it after the match and the funny thing after the match was when Bogomolov was throwing towels into the crowd, he went to the throw one in the Chilean direction and then he baulked. It was entertaining and that's what is good, it's not like either of them faked an injury.

Tricky_Forehand
01-17-2006, 10:01 PM
Yes, Feña offered to settle it after the match and the funny thing after the match was when Bogomolov was throwing towels into the crowd, he went to the throw one in the Chilean direction and then he baulked. It was entertaining and that's what is good, it's not like either of them faked an injury.

:lol: That's Alex :)

the cat
01-17-2006, 10:54 PM
What a great win for Alex. :D That's the best win of his still young career. ;)

jole
01-18-2006, 04:40 AM
After watching him play in 2004 I was not a fan of Bogomolov, but I can't lie, I liked last night. :D

_pyromatic
01-18-2006, 05:13 AM
ESPN showed a little bit of the match and it looked like Bogomolov was being a real asshole! I don't blame Feña at all

Sparko1030
01-18-2006, 05:41 AM
ESPN showed a little bit of the match and it looked like Bogomolov was being a real asshole! I don't blame Feña at all

I saw that clip also-it was the first I'd seen of the match-and I absolutely agree.

KoOlMaNsEaN
01-18-2006, 06:09 AM
alex looked like he was crazed in the espn highlight :eek:
Would be great if sum1 has the match for download ;)
Anyway both players are in the wrong here but Alex seemed to start it and it really turned me off him.

Scotso
01-18-2006, 06:18 AM
How do you guys know how it started? It isn't like ESPN showed the entire thing. I've seen Alex before and he didn't do anything like that, so obviously something lead to it. Also, ESPN commentators said something smart for a change... Alex had high emotions because it was his first chance to win a grand slam match and it would be a big scalp to have.

I thought what he did was cute. Gonzo wasn't exactly being an angel... telling him he'd beat him down and such.

BTW, Alex gets cuter and cuter every year.

Tricky_Forehand
01-18-2006, 06:32 AM
alex looked like he was crazed in the espn highlight :eek:
Would be great if sum1 has the match for download ;)
Anyway both players are in the wrong here but Alex seemed to start it and it really turned me off him.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: to all of the above

Obviously, ESPN sliced and diced the highlight to their preferences but I saw Gonzalez as being the instigator. Alex didn't try to hit Gonzales with a ball and Alex didn't approach Gonzales on a changeover.

GonzoFan
01-18-2006, 06:58 AM
alex looked like he was crazed in the espn highlight :eek:
Would be great if sum1 has the match for download ;)
Anyway both players are in the wrong here but Alex seemed to start it and it really turned me off him.

I watched the entire match and it wasn't like one of them started ... it was a weird thing cause first Gonzo started to yell VAMOS but at the chilean crowd that was there supporting him but then Alex started to do the same thing but yelling the points at Gonzo and also making fun of Gonzo's mistakes and Fernando noticed that and went to face him in a changeover and I think any player would have done that if you see someone making fun of your mistakes.
Like I said in Gonzo's forum, even the ESPN+ commentators were saying how bad Alex's behavior was.

Scotso
01-18-2006, 07:47 AM
even the ESPN+ commentators were saying how bad Alex's behavior was.

Is ESPN+ some Chilean thing? :p

Maybe it was the Chilean fans there that annoyed Alex. Fans can be quite obnoxious at times.

NicoFan
01-18-2006, 01:19 PM
Is ESPN+ some Chilean thing? :p


No, ESPN+ is not some Chilean thing. And ESPN in the States showed the same thing - obnoxious is obnoxious in whatever country it is shown in.

*Ljubica*
01-18-2006, 01:30 PM
I haven't seen any of this match (not even the highlights) - but a friend of mine was there, and he told me that Bogomolov started it by gesturing at Feña and celebrating one partucular shot too much - in what my friend called an "unsportsmanlike" manner. Feña was obviously in pain and discomfort with shoulder problems, so reacted strongly to this and had words with Alex at the change of ends - but it was Alex that started it. My friend is not a fan of either player (and he is not American or Chilean) - so I believe he is being totally objective here - sorry if that offends anyone.

NicoFan
01-18-2006, 01:46 PM
I haven't seen any of this match (not even the highlights) - but a friend of mine was there, and he told me that Bogomolov started it by gesturing at Feña and celebrating one partucular shot too much - in what my friend called an "unsportsmanlike" manner. Feña was obviously in pain and discomfort with shoulder problems, so reacted strongly to this and had words with Alex at the change of ends - but it was Alex that started it. My friend is not a fan of either player (and he is not American or Chilean) - so I believe he is being totally objective here - sorry if that offends anyone.

Thanks Rosie! It confirms the things we've been hearing from commentators on TV and people that were watching on TV.

Consigliere
01-18-2006, 02:21 PM
get over it.

:devil:

smucav
01-18-2006, 03:04 PM
There's a video on the ESPN site:
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/index
Click on: Bogomolov-Gonzalez bad blood

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/aus06/news/story?id=2296461 Updated: Jan. 18, 2006, 9:28 AM ET
Bogomolov fined $4,500
Reuters

MELBOURNE, Australia -- American Alex Bogomolov was fined $4,500 for verbal abuse and obscene language after his heated first-round match with Chile's Fernando Gonzalez at the Australian Open.

Bogomolov beat the ninth seed 4-6 7-6 6-3 6-7 7-5 on Tuesday to set up a second-round match with Frenchman Paul-Henri Mathieu but the result was overshadowed by an ugly confrontation.

Television replays showed the pair arguing angrily during a change of ends as frustrations threatened to boil over.

The grand slam supervisors announced on Wednesday that Bogomolov had been fined $3,000 for verbal abuse and a further $1,500 for an audible obscenity.

Under the sport's code of conduct rules, Bogomolov could have been fined as much as $10,000 for verbal abuse.

The only two players to have been fined the maximum amount were John McEnroe at Wimbledon in 1991 and Jeff Tarango at the same venue four years later.

Sparko1030
01-18-2006, 04:07 PM
I haven't seen any of this match (not even the highlights) - but a friend of mine was there, and he told me that Bogomolov started it by gesturing at Feña and celebrating one partucular shot too much - in what my friend called an "unsportsmanlike" manner. Feña was obviously in pain and discomfort with shoulder problems, so reacted strongly to this and had words with Alex at the change of ends - but it was Alex that started it. My friend is not a fan of either player (and he is not American or Chilean) - so I believe he is being totally objective here - sorry if that offends anyone.

Thanks Rosie-its good to have an objective report. That along with the fact he (Bogomolov) was fined shows who started this fued.

mongo
01-18-2006, 04:51 PM
we never see passion like that in tennis.

those two i thought they were gonna have a punch up (literally were screaming at each other)

great entertainment,

im a fan of alex now
Agreed. The two most memorable matches last year were so for very different reasons. Safin-Federer for its pure brilliance. Coria-Hewitt (DC) for its bad blood. Rivalries aren't built on mutual respect (e.g., Sampras-Agassi, Corretja-Costa), they come from hatred (early McEnroe-Connors, McEnroe-Lendl). Tennis can always use a few bad boys to stir the pot.

shotgun
01-18-2006, 05:30 PM
There's a video on the ESPN site:
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/index
Click on: Bogomolov-Gonzalez bad blood

Thanks for the link. That was pure entertainment.

enqvistfan
01-18-2006, 06:27 PM
There's a video on the ESPN site:
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/index
Click on: Bogomolov-Gonzalez bad blood


Thanks for the link. It's hallucinating !!

Tricky_Forehand
01-18-2006, 07:51 PM
This is absolute bullshit. If this was a high profile player (take your pick of names) then no way in hell would they have been fined. But because Alex is not a consistent focus of the media they might as well make an example of him. Shame on him for being himself out there and playing his heart out :rolleyes: .

This is so ridiculous that it's not even funny!!! :mad: :mad:

Julio1974
01-18-2006, 07:55 PM
This is absolute bullshit. If this was a high profile player (take your pick of names) then no way in hell would they have been fined. But because Alex is not a consistent focus of the media they might as well make an example of him. Shame on him for being himself out there and playing his heart out :rolleyes: .

This is so ridiculous that it's not even funny!!! :mad: :mad:

I think Hewitt and Coria were fined also.

Chloe le Bopper
01-18-2006, 07:57 PM
I think Hewitt and Coria were fined also.
How many times has Roddick been fined? ;)

Chloe le Bopper
01-18-2006, 07:59 PM
Shut up about Hewitt and Coria and their match at DC was highly entertaining and the crowd love this sort of stuff.

Bogomolov gets fired up anyway and the Chilean fans were giving him some stick and Gonzo did have some problems, but the fact is that Bogomolov was able to take the match and Feña played so many dropshots and even hit an underhand serve.

Yes, Feña offered to settle it after the match and the funny thing after the match was when Bogomolov was throwing towels into the crowd, he went to the throw one in the Chilean direction and then he baulked. It was entertaining and that's what is good, it's not like either of them faked an injury.
omg

I never really cared about Bogomolov before, but this incident might make him awesome. I'm undecided for now ;)

Mistaflava
01-18-2006, 08:02 PM
Bogmolov is hilarious...that was wild



:eek:

Fumus
01-18-2006, 08:06 PM
It's hilarous, why did it start? I mean, why didn't they like each other?

*Viva Chile*
01-18-2006, 08:19 PM
This is absolute bullshit. If this was a high profile player (take your pick of names) then no way in hell would they have been fined. But because Alex is not a consistent focus of the media they might as well make an example of him. Shame on him for being himself out there and playing his heart out :rolleyes: .

This is so ridiculous that it's not even funny!!! :mad: :mad:
Previous of this incident, also he was suspended last year for prohibited substances consume... what a example of sportsman!!!, yeah yeah... :rolleyes:

onewoman74
01-18-2006, 08:23 PM
i saw the incident on cnni this morning...what vile and disgusting behavior...Gonzo should've beat his ass right there on the court...plus win the match!!!!!

Lee
01-18-2006, 08:23 PM
Previous of this incident, also he was suspended last year for prohibited substances consume... what a example of sportsman!!!, yeah yeah... :rolleyes:

I'm not a fan of Bogo and I don't agree with what happened but that suspension has nothing to do about this incident. Also, it's not about sportsmanship. It's simply a case of ignorance and careless on Bogo's part to get the correct documents for his medical needs.

+alonso
01-18-2006, 08:23 PM
OH man! Please people!
Take it easy!
No le sigas el juego este! Felipe!
Mira, Vi el incidente y realmente fue barsuo Bogomolov pero no sigamos,
Por ultimo lo multaron!
Y pucha que dolio esta derrota!

:sad:

*Viva Chile*
01-18-2006, 08:31 PM
OH man! Please people!
Take it easy!
No le sigas el juego este! Felipe!
Mira, Vi el incidente y realmente fue barsuo Bogomolov pero no sigamos,
Por ultimo lo multaron!
Y pucha que dolio esta derrota!

:sad:
Si entiendo, ya dije que Feña no es un ángel tampoco pero molesta un poco cuando al otro lo quieren dejar como santa paloma también ;)

smucav
01-18-2006, 08:33 PM
I'm not a fan of Bogo and I don't agree with what happened but that suspension has nothing to do about this incident. Also, it's not about sportsmanship. It's simply a case of ignorance and careless on Bogo's part to get the correct documents for his medical needs.Correct:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=54919

Julio1974
01-18-2006, 08:42 PM
OH man! Please people!
Take it easy!
No le sigas el juego este! Felipe!
Mira, Vi el incidente y realmente fue barsuo Bogomolov pero no sigamos,
Por ultimo lo multaron!
Y pucha que dolio esta derrota!

:sad:

out of ntopic:

que significa "barsuo"? Es una expresión chilena????

Chloe le Bopper
01-18-2006, 08:52 PM
Hee hee. I just watched the video. Hilarious stuff.

Tricky_Forehand
01-18-2006, 09:01 PM
Previous of this incident, also he was suspended last year for prohibited substances consume... what a example of sportsman!!!, yeah yeah... :rolleyes:

Congratulations for showing your ignorance :bigclap:

He was screwed over in that case as well. Check your facts before you post crap like that.

Tricky_Forehand
01-18-2006, 09:03 PM
I think Hewitt and Coria were fined also.

They don't exactly rank as ITF/ATP and/or media favorites either, do they?

Tricky_Forehand
01-18-2006, 09:04 PM
How many times has Roddick been fined? ;)

That was one of the names that could definitely fill in the blank :)

_pyromatic
01-18-2006, 09:05 PM
They don't exactly rank as ITF/ATP and/or media favorites either, do they?

Safin gets fined all the time and he's very popular. Anyway, most of the media favorites don't break the rules in the first place.

Tricky_Forehand
01-18-2006, 09:08 PM
Not that the public hears about.

LilyRoseAva
01-18-2006, 09:11 PM
little vid cnn >>> http://files.to/get.php?cid=e3dcaf3b31bb7cb10183a43fae98008d

_pyromatic
01-18-2006, 09:13 PM
If they act unsportsmanlike in a match how can the public not hear about it?

Edit: Thanks Danielafrenchfan!

Action Jackson
01-18-2006, 09:45 PM
omg

I never really cared about Bogomolov before, but this incident might make him awesome. I'm undecided for now ;)

It was only on a whim that I went over to see this match, but I was laughing so hard and there was this Aussie guy behind me giving to Bogomolov, with the wanker sign on the forehand and he was immaculately dressed and that made it funnier.

As I said originally it was great theatre with the wrong result.

Jogy
01-18-2006, 10:22 PM
The Chile fans can also be very annoying and unfair to the other player. They make noise all time and clapping for serve faults all time, and I heard them shout stuff to the other player in Spanish also (not all, but some bad one of them). And when Bogomolov does one thing to them, he is fast the bad guy in this match. What a joke some people are, they need to wake up, serious! Take off your pink glasses you are watching the world and see reality :lol:

Tricky_Forehand
01-18-2006, 11:08 PM
:yeah:

Tricky_Forehand
01-18-2006, 11:10 PM
As I said originally it was great theatre with the wrong result.

:rolleyes:

Scotso
01-18-2006, 11:31 PM
So was Gonzo fined? If Alex was fined and not Gonzo, then it's a complete joke.

Lee
01-18-2006, 11:38 PM
So was Gonzo fined? If Alex was fined and not Gonzo, then it's a complete joke.

Bogo was not fined for 'heat exchange' with Gonzo but for the 'words' he used. If Gonzo didn't use the same kind of word, why should he fined? :shrug:

Scotso
01-18-2006, 11:47 PM
"The grand slam supervisors announced on Wednesday that Bogomolov had been fined $3,000 for verbal abuse and a further $1,500 for an audible obscenity."

Seems like the 3,000$ was just for fighting.

+alonso
01-18-2006, 11:53 PM
barsuo se puede usar en este caso como alguien que no debio haber hecho lo que hizo y se propaso... :yeah:

Deboogle!.
01-19-2006, 12:05 AM
to me "verbal abuse" implies more than just the fighting, it probably means he said specific things that someone deemed to cross the line from fighting to "verbal abuse".

Always ice to see that no thread can escape GM without Andy being discussed in it even when it has nothing to do with him :yeah:

heya
01-19-2006, 12:40 AM
Is Alex called Junior Jr.? Duck Jr. At least they're not FEDDDDERER.

Lee
01-19-2006, 03:46 AM
"The grand slam supervisors announced on Wednesday that Bogomolov had been fined $3,000 for verbal abuse and a further $1,500 for an audible obscenity."

Seems like the 3,000$ was just for fighting.

like deb said, it depends on what you said crossed the line or not.

e.g. in a bar fight, 2 people punch at each other, I don't think both will be charged will assault but if one pull a knife or a gun, it will probably turn into assault with a deadly weapon.

*Viva Chile*
01-19-2006, 04:15 AM
Congratulations for showing your ignorance :bigclap:

He was screwed over in that case as well. Check your facts before you post crap like that.
I only post what ESPN said about Bogomolov when they critized him after the match, I considered in these moment that ESPN was a good source, but then I noticed of what smucav said. I made a mistake and I recognize it, but I will not change my opinion about Bogomolov's bad attitude on court.

P.S: Thank you for gift me my first bad rep ever!!! on this forum :ras:

_pyromatic
01-19-2006, 05:21 AM
P.S: Thank you for gift me my first bad rep ever!!! on this forum :ras:

Don't worry I got one too :hug:

Sparko1030
01-19-2006, 05:31 AM
Bogomolov has been bagled by PHM in their first set. Good luck in the rest of the match to PHM.

jole
01-19-2006, 05:32 AM
I only post what ESPN said about Bogomolov when they critized him after the match, I considered in these moment that ESPN was a good source, but then I noticed of what smucav said. I made a mistake and I recognize it, but I will not change my opinion about Bogomolov's bad attitude on court.

P.S: Thank you for gift me my first bad rep ever!!! on this forum :ras:

Don't worry, I got my first and ever from her ages ago. I felt honored. :D

Consigliere
01-19-2006, 06:13 AM
who cares.

all that matters is that i was entertained :)

superpinkone37
01-19-2006, 07:10 AM
I don't know what exactly happened and I haven't yet had the time to read through this thread to find out, but I was rooting for Gonzo, and from the very little we saw on ESPN I saw Alex's behavior as being worse. I might be just biased, though. I wish we had seen more of this match on tv.

Tricky_Forehand
01-19-2006, 09:15 AM
This will be my last postings in this thread but FYI....Alex stated it in a nice way in his ESPN interview...Gonzalez started the crap and when Alex turned the tables and gave back "revenge" (his word) Gonzalez didn't like it. Basically, Fernando Gonzalez didn't like the taste of his own medicine. Simple as that.

Tricky_Forehand
01-19-2006, 09:18 AM
I only post what ESPN said about Bogomolov when they critized him after the match, I considered in these moment that ESPN was a good source, but then I noticed of what smucav said. I made a mistake and I recognize it, but I will not change my opinion about Bogomolov's bad attitude on court.

P.S: Thank you for gift me my first bad rep ever!!! on this forum :ras:

Well, when you're talking crap about someone that I know...yes, I'll gladly give a bad rep and not hesitate.

*Viva Chile*
01-19-2006, 12:42 PM
Well, when you're talking crap about someone that I know...yes, I'll gladly give a bad rep and not hesitate.
I was not talking crap, only repeat what affirmed in ESPN (Latin america, no USA)