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Juan Ignacio Chela def. Andy Murray 6-1 6-3 6-3

Hola Mr. SK
01-17-2006, 04:53 AM
:eek: @ the scoreline!!
anyone watched this match? a big surprise,huh?

Federerthebest
01-17-2006, 04:54 AM
lol :)

*Ljubica*
01-17-2006, 05:14 AM
No - not a surprise at all in my opinion. Murray is a good young player - but nowhere near as experienced or solid as Chela. He has very little Grand Slam experience, and certainly isn't used to the heat in Ausralia which is very different from the climate we have here in Britain. I read an interview with Murray in a newspaper here yesterday - he said he didn't want the hype and the pressure because he knew his career was only just beginning, and playing solid, higher-ranked players like Chela would not be easy for him. He looked a little overawed by the whole thing to be honest - and at his age - that's not surprising - many kids here are still at school at his age. I'm not a Murray fan at all, but I just hope the media here accept things and don't crucify the lad for one defeat.

Hola Mr. SK
01-17-2006, 05:46 AM
No - not a surprise at all in my opinion. Murray is a good young player - but nowhere near as experienced or solid as Chela. He has very little Grand Slam experience, and certainly isn't used to the heat in Ausralia which is very different from the climate we have here in Britain. I read an interview with Murray in a newspaper here yesterday - he said he didn't want the hype and the pressure because he knew his career was only just beginning, and playing solid, higher-ranked players like Chela would not be easy for him. He looked a little overawed by the whole thing to be honest - and at his age - that's not surprising - many kids here are still at school at his age. I'm not a Murray fan at all, but I just hope the media here accept things and don't crucify the lad for one defeat.
The soreline reads to me that Murray hasn't put up a decent fight at all. Its such a blow.maybe too much expectation from this guy. He's young after all. He gotta learn a lot.I hope the local media wont be too harsh for him too.

Jimnik
01-17-2006, 05:56 AM
I'm not surprised to see him lose, only shocked at the scoreline :eek: Andy must have never got going.

Duncan
01-17-2006, 06:17 AM
WTF!?

Andy you make me angry!

CooCooCachoo
01-17-2006, 06:18 AM
:spit:

:woohoo:

celia
01-17-2006, 06:19 AM
Chela :banana: te amo tanto mi amor. :kiss:

name_change
01-17-2006, 06:23 AM
4 young guns are out. gasquet, djokovic, murray and monfils.

OddJob
01-17-2006, 06:23 AM
I saw the last couple of games of the match and Andy was very defensive. His returns were weak but he was trying. Andy gave out a big scream towards the end, he was frustrated but trying.

Hola Mr. SK
01-17-2006, 06:31 AM
I saw the last couple of games of the match and Andy was very defensive. His returns were weak but he was trying. Andy gave out a big scream towards the end, he was frustrated but trying.
hope he just got overplayed. Chela is a sticky player. Sure thing that he played better than Andy today.but Andy will learn.

1sun
01-17-2006, 06:53 AM
and certainly isn't used to the heat in Ausralia which is very different from the climate we have here in Britain.
lol. boy you can say that again. ;)

Hola Mr. SK
01-17-2006, 06:59 AM
Does that mean he performs better in the rainy days?:p

RonE
01-17-2006, 07:17 AM
A Chela-Hewitt rematch :woohoo:

I can hardly wait!!!! :D :devil:

TheBoiledEgg
01-17-2006, 07:20 AM
so glad i missed it
i fell asleep at start of match and woke up just in time to hear the GSM :devil:

quite a suprise, but i i enjoyed my sleep
and Murrays defeat :banana:

misyou25
01-17-2006, 07:33 AM
it's actually MurrAy, not Murry (like Curry) ;)

almouchie
01-17-2006, 07:38 AM
Murray is still young & not yet finished growing phsically
he still needs to add muscle to his figure
as for the lackexperience it will always tell throughtout the year

he still he yet to play a full year & needs to learn & grow
any expectations atm aer unjust & may be detrimental
these young players need to be left to grow & evolve at their own pace
a player like Ancic a couple of years ago was still learning his craft & only last year that he started to consistently play to his potential &won Davis cup & grass tournie in holland
patience is the name of the game

misyou25
01-17-2006, 07:39 AM
yes, again you're making a good point ;) couldnt say it better. when he finishes to grow as you say, hell be like roddick imo

Hola Mr. SK
01-17-2006, 07:45 AM
it's actually MurrAy, not Murry (like Curry) ;)
oops,my bad.corrected.

vincayou
01-17-2006, 08:38 AM
I'm surprised by the result, but Murray fans should not be too worried. Keep in mind that he has 3 or 4 years to develop. It would be nice if people would stop asking the youngsters a grand slam victory after some good wins and stop predicting as well that "they won't make it" after a few defeats.

adee-gee
01-17-2006, 09:09 AM
Andy played horribly, his game is totally off at the moment.

"If you guys expect me to play well every single match and every single tournament then it's not going to happen," said Murray.

"Everybody has a bad tournament sometime. Unfortunately, it came here.

"But I'm going to have much better days than this one, and I'm sure I'll have worse days.

"You guys (the media) are expecting me to win matches like this. The guy's ranked 20 places in front of me, he is a much better player than me."

A fair assessment, but the truth is that he's not been playing well for a while now. He seriously needs to sort out his serve, it was a huge weapon when he was going strongly last summer, but at the moment it's a massive weakness. He can barely make a first serve. I have faith in Petchey to sort him out though.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
01-17-2006, 09:36 AM
I think he can kick Hewit's ass. :aplot: Vamos Juan Ignacio! :rocker2:

Hola Mr. SK
01-17-2006, 10:05 AM
I can see the problem. coz there are not so many good players out there at one time, only few players(Tim, Andy) are focused by the media! thus, they can feel the huge pressure by the media or the whole country(who expect them to win the Wimbledon), without anyone else to share the pressure!
The solutions could be either bring up more talented players at one time or having the media shut up.
If China had a player like Murray and the whole nation expected him to win the TMC, this wud definitely kill him!!

basil333
01-17-2006, 10:36 AM
I watched this match - Andy played like a child, he had several tantrems, his body language was terrible, and Chela basically wiped the court with him. At one point even the commentators (who confessed to be eternal optimists) were lost for words at the state of his play.

To be totally honest it was an embarrassing display to be held on such a show court infront of such a big crowd too. Even the commentators admitted that this show confirmed Andy is nowhere NOT the bigshot they thought he could be.

Chela played professionally and did all he had to do - and just pushed him around the court until he reached the end. Chela was a very happy bunny.

hitchhiker
01-17-2006, 10:40 AM
murray just wanted to see the hewitt chela fist fight just like the rest of us

MissFairy
01-17-2006, 12:19 PM
No - not a surprise at all in my opinion. Murray is a good young player - but nowhere near as experienced or solid as Chela. He has very little Grand Slam experience, and certainly isn't used to the heat in Ausralia which is very different from the climate we have here in Britain. I read an interview with Murray in a newspaper here yesterday - he said he didn't want the hype and the pressure because he knew his career was only just beginning, and playing solid, higher-ranked players like Chela would not be easy for him. He looked a little overawed by the whole thing to be honest - and at his age - that's not surprising - many kids here are still at school at his age. I'm not a Murray fan at all, but I just hope the media here accept things and don't crucify the lad for one defeat.
I think you're right, he was troubled by something, and it was most likely a mixture of being daunted and the heat. I do like Murray but i wasn't expecting him to win at all, really. Well, maybe the little hope i had was just blind fandom :lol:

It could've been closer though. Towards the end of the match, i think Murray picked up a little. He played into rallies a bit more, which is what he usually plays like, rather than being hasty and pulling the trigger too early- which is what he did in the first two sets.

But agreed, it's not that shocking considering the gap in experience etc between the two. The commentator even said that despite his hype, it can't be forgotten that it was only his 12th or 13th tour level match. Well done, Chela.

RogiFan88
01-17-2006, 02:51 PM
Andy's still a baby -- give him time. Here's what some UK press said [read it and weep :sad:]:

Times Online January 17, 2006
Murray feels the heat as he follows Henman out of Melbourne
By Times Online and PA Sport

Andrew Murray was knocked out of the Australian Open in the first round today - then cited the weight of media expectation as a contributing factor in his straight sets defeat to Juan Ignacio Chela.

The 18-year-old from Dunblane, believed by many to be the future British No 1, lost 6-1, 6-3, 6-3 a day after Tim Henman was also eliminated in the first round. Murray admitted that he is already beginning to feel the same pressure that has been characteristic of Henman's career.

"If you guys expect me to play well every single match and every single tournament then it's not going to happen," Murray said. "Everybody has a bad tournament sometime. Unfortunately, it came here.

"But I'm going to have much better days than this one, and I'm sure I'll have worse days. You guys (the media) are expecting me to win matches like this. The guy's ranked 20 places in front of me, he is a much better player than me.

"It's difficult for me to go out there and try to perform to the best that I can when I'm expected to win all these matches."

Questioned further about his claims, after it was suggested he has received nothing but good press since he arrived on the circuit, Murray bristled before the press conference came to an abrupt end.

"You don't think there's any pressure on me? Well, if you don't think that, then I'm obviously going to disagree on something. If you guys don't think you're putting pressure on me, then that's fine. I'll forget about it."

After making the biggest jump of any player in 2005 as he surged from world number 514 to number 65 by the end of the year - and also becoming the first British teen since Buster Mottram in 1974 to finish in the top 100 - Murray has been touted as a future champion.

But a day after Henman was sent on his way in four sets by Dmitry Tursunov, Murray similarly had no answer to the consistent play of his more experienced Argentinian opponent.

Murray made a poor start by surrendering his serve in the second game of the match and a second service break in the sixth game, as he committed 15 unforced errors, meant Chela was able to close out the set in just 23 minutes.

Having converted both his break point chances in the first set, Chela was not as quick to take his opportunities in the second set, but it mattered little as he broke in the second game on the way to leading 3-0.

Murray lifted his intensity and pressured Chela's serve in the sixth and eighth games in an effort to get back into the contest but, after failing to break at 30-40 and with Chela leading 4-3, he dropped his serve for a fourth time to fall two sets behind.

Thirteen second-set winners were offset by 17 more unforced errors, and for the third time in as many sets Murray was broken in the second game, with Chela then holding firm on his own serve to cruise home and set up a second-round clash with Lleyton Hewitt.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,5205-1989461,00.html

17 January 2006 10:29 Home > Sport > Tennis
Defeated Murray blames media pressure
PA
Published: 17 January 2006
Defeated Murray blames media pressure Andy Murray blamed the weight of expectation for his hapless first-round exit in the Australian Open.

The 18-year-old Scot suffered a straight sets defeat to Argentinian Juan Ignacio Chela a day after fellow Briton Tim Henman fell to Dmitry Tursunov.

After suffering a 6-1 6-3 6-3 defeat by Chela at the Vodafone Arena, Murray admitted feeling the pressure.

"If you guys expect me to play well every single match and every single tournament then it's not going to happen," a flat Murray said.

"Everybody has a bad tournament sometime. Unfortunately, it came here.

"But I'm going to have much better days than this one, and I'm sure I'll have worse days. You guys (the media) are expecting me to win matches like this. The guy's ranked 20 places in front of me, he is a much better player than me."

Murray continued: "It's difficult for me to go out there and try to perform to the best that I can when I'm expected to win all these matches."

Questioned further about his claims, after it was suggested he has received nothing but good press since he arrived on the circuit, Murray bristled before the press conference came to an abrupt end.

"You don't think there's any pressure on me?

"Well, if you don't think that, then I'm obviously going to disagree on something.

"If you guys don't think you're putting pressure on me, then that's fine. I'll forget about it."

After making the biggest jump of any player in 2005 as he surged from world number 514 to number 65 by the end of the year - and also becoming the first British teen since Buster Mottram in 1974 to finish in the top 100 - Murray has been touted as a future champion.

But a day after Henman was sent on his way in four sets by Russian Tursunov, Murray similarly had no answer to the consistent play of his more experienced Argentinian opponent Chela.

Murray made a poor start by surrendering his serve in the second game of the match and a second service break in the sixth game, as he committed 15 unforced errors, saw Chela take the set in just 23 minutes.

Having converted both his break point chances in the first set, Chela was not as quick to take his opportunities in the second set, but it mattered little as he broke in the second game on the way to leading 3-0.

Murray lifted his intensity and pressured Chela's serve in the sixth and eighth games in an effort to get back into the contest but, after failing to break at 30-40 and with Chela leading 4-3, he dropped his serve for a fourth time to fall two sets behind.

Thirteen second-set winners were offset by 17 more unforced errors, and for the third time in as many sets Murray was broken in the second game, with Chela then holding firm on his own serve to cruise home and set up a possible second-round clash with local hope Lleyton Hewitt.

Hewitt and Chela famously did battle in the third round of the tournament 12 months ago, with the centre court contest on the first Saturday degenerating as Chela claimed he had been bumped at a change of ends and Hewitt angered when he believed Chela had spat at him.
http://sport.independent.co.uk/tennis/article339184.ece

Australian Open
Ousted Murray points the finger at media pressure
Federer and Hewitt ease through as second British hope stumbles
Staff and agencies
Tuesday January 17, 2006

Not too happy: Andy Murray. Photograph: Mark Nolan/Getty.

Andy Murray blamed the weight of expectation for his hapless first-round exit in the Australian Open.
The 18-year-old suffered a straight sets, 6-1, 6-3, 6-3 defeat to Argentinian Juan Ignacio Chela a day after fellow Briton Tim Henman fell to Dmitry Tursunov.

"If you guys expect me to play well every single match and every single tournament then it's not going to happen," a flat Murray said.

"Everybody has a bad tournament sometime. Unfortunately, it came here.

"But I'm going to have much better days than this one, and I'm sure I'll have worse days. You guys (the media) are expecting me to win matches like this. The guy's ranked 20 places in front of me, he is a much better player than me."
Murray continued: "It's difficult for me to go out there and try to perform to the best that I can when I'm expected to win all these matches."

Questioned further about his claims, after it was suggested he has received nothing but good press since he arrived on the circuit, Murray bristled before the press conference came to an abrupt end.

"You don't think there's any pressure on me? Well, if you don't think that, then I'm obviously going to disagree on something. If you guys don't think you're putting pressure on me, then that's fine. I'll forget about it."

After making the biggest jump of any player in 2005 as he surged from world number 514 to number 65 by the end of the year - and also becoming the first British teen since Buster Mottram in 1974 to finish in the top 100 - Murray has been touted as a future champion.

But Murray had no answer to the consistent play of his more experienced opponent and made a poor start by surrendering his serve in the second game of the match. A second service break in the sixth game, as he committed 15 unforced errors, saw Chela take the set in just 23 minutes.

Chela was not as quick to take his opportunities in the second set but it mattered little as he broke in the second game on the way to leading 3-0. Murray lifted his intensity and pressured Chela's serve in the sixth and eighth games in an effort to get back into the contest but, after failing to break at 30-40 and with Chela leading 4-3, he dropped his serve for a fourth time to fall two sets behind.

Thirteen second-set winners were offset by 17 more unforced errors, and for the third time in as many sets Murray was broken in the second game, with Chela then holding firm on his own serve to cruise home and set up a second-round clash with local hope Lleyton Hewitt.

Hewitt and world No1 Roger Federer both advanced into the second round. Top-seeded Federer signalled his intentions with a 6-2, 6-3, 6-2 demolition of Denis Istomin, while third seed Hewitt earned hard-fought 6-4, 2-6, 5-7, 7-6 (7-4), 6-3 marathon victory over Robin Vik of the Czech Republic.

Federer's dismantling of his Uzbekistan opponent took less than 90 minutes, but the three-time Wimbledon champion insisted: "It was not easy today because, you know, he was serving big, taking a lot of chances on my return.

"We didn't see too many rallies, which didn't really allow me to get the rhythm going."

Hewitt produced a mixed performance as he overcame nine breaks of service and 13 double faults to take the match in five intense sets lasting nearly four hours.

Slovakian 12th seed Dominik Hrbaty trailed by two sets before fighting back to overcome Austrian Oliver Marach 3-6, 4-6, 6-2, 6-1, 6-3. Fifth seed Nikolay Davydenko was severely tested by Croatian Ivo Karlovic, edging home 7-5, 4-6, 3-6, 7-5, 6-3.

And Argentina's Guillermo Coria was another seed made to work hard for his victory, the world No9 eventually toppling Romanian Victor Hanescu 6-4, 1-6, 4-6, 6-2, 6-1 to move through to the second round.

Other results

Janko Tipsarevic (Ser) bt Andreas Seppi (Ita) 1-6, 6-4, 4-6, 6-2, 6-4; Paul-Henri Mathieu (Fra) bt Arnaud Clement (Fra) 6-3, 7-6 (7-4), 6-3; Federico Luzzi (Ita) bt Juan Antonio Marin (Crc) 6-1, 6-4, 7-5; Luis Horna (Per) bt Gael Monfils (Fra) 6-4, 7-5, 6-1; Peter Luczak (Aus) bt Ivo Minar (Cze) 7-6 (7-4), 7-6 (7-5), 6-4; Paul Goldstein (USA) bt Novak Djokovic (Ser) 6-2, 1-6, 6-3, 6-2; Nathan Healey (Aus) bt Filippo Volandri (Ita) 6-2, 6-3 ret; Juan Monaco (Arg) bt Jean-Rene Lisnard (Fra) 4-6, 6-2, 6-4, 6-3; Florian Mayer (Ger) bt Hyung Taik Lee (Kor) 6-4, 6-1, 4-6, 6-4; Amer Delic (USA) bt Potito Starace (Ita) 7-5, 6-7 (3-7), 6-3, 3-6, 6-3; Davide Sanguinetti (Ita) bt Jacob Adaktusson (Swe) 7-6 (7-5), 6-3, 6-2; Nicolas Kiefer (Ger) bt Paradorn Srichaphan (Tha) 6-7 (5-7), 4-6, 7-6 (7-5), 6-1, 6-2; Max Mirnyi (Blr) bt Thierry Ascione (Fra) 6-3, 3-6, 6-1, 6-7 (4-7), 6-0; Nikolay Davydenko (Rus) bt Ivo Karlovic (Cro) 7-5, 4-6, 3-6, 7-5, 6-3; Kristof Vilegen (Bel) bt Christophe Rochus (Bel) 6-3, 6-1, 6-4; Boris Pashanski (Ser) bt Wayne Arthurs (Aus) 7-3, 6-4, 4-6, 7-6 (7-2); Igor Andreev (Rus) bt Nicolas Almagro (Spa) 7-5, 6-4, 6-3; Tommy Haas (Ger) bt Richard Gasquet (Fra) 6-2, 7-5, 6-2; Dominik Hrbaty (Svk) bt Oliver Marach (Aut) 3-6, 4-6, 6-2, 6-1, 6-3; Bjorn Phau (Ger) bt Carlos Berlocq (Arg) 6-4, 7-6 (7-3), 2-6, 7-6 (7-4); Dick Norman (Bel) bt Zack Fleishman (USA) 6-4, 7-6 (8-6), 5-7, 0-6, 6-3; Kevin Kim (USA) bt Harel Levy (Isr) 6-4, 6-4, 6-0; Olivier Rochus (Bel) bt Michael Llodra (Fra) 6-4, 6-2, 6-2; Alex Bogomolov Jr. (USA) bt (9) Fernando Gonzalez (Chi) 4-6 7-6 (8-6) 6-3 6-7 (3-7) 7-5, Raemon Sluiter (Ned) bt Pavel Snobel (Cze) 6-4 2-6 6-2 6-4, Fernando Verdasco (Spa) bt Kenneth Carlsen (Den) 7-6 (7-5), 6-4, 6-4; Juan Carlos Ferrero (Spa) bt Tomas Zib (Cze) 7-5, 6-0, 6-2; Sebastien Grosjean (Fra) bt Mark Philippoussis (Aus) 6-4, 6-2, 6-3.

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tennis/story/0,,1688202,00.html

Murray suffers tame loss to Chela

Andy Murray went out of the Australian Open with a whimper on Tuesday as Argentina's Juan Ignacio Chela strolled to a 6-1 6-3 6-3 first-round win.
Murray was facing a higher ranked and far more experienced player and Chela began well, dominating with his big forehand and breaking immediately.

But it was the catalogue of unforced errors from Murray that decided the match as he failed to find any rhythm.

Three break points went begging as Murray lost in under two hours.

The 18-year-old had received a rapturous welcome on the Vodafone Arena from a mixture of Britons keen to put Tim Henman's defeat the previous day behind them, and locals curious to see what all the fuss was about.

The guy's ranked 20 places in front of me, he is a much better player than me
Murray on Chela

However, the signs were ominous as early as the second game when a woeful attempt at a drop shot followed by a double fault led to Murray dropping serve.

Chela clearly had a gameplan to hit the ball hard into the corner towards Murray's backhand and it paid dividends, with another break in game six as he took the first set.

A total of 15 unforced errors in the first set told its own story and when Murray was broken again at the start of the second set, the game was all but up.

The Scot recovered sufficiently in the third to make a game of it, and there were flashes of Murray's undeniable talent, but Chela was always in control.

A hugely frustrating day got the better of Murray when he was warned for racquet abuse but it did nothing to change the momentum and Chela wrapped up the win with little fuss.

Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport1/hi/tennis/4617392.stm
Published: 2006/01/17 05:30:53 GMT
© BBC MMVI

Beaten Murray hits back at media

Andy Murray has claimed the media are putting too much pressure on him, following his Australian Open exit.
Murray lost in straight sets to Juan Ignacio Chela in the first round.

"If you guys (the media) expect me to play well every single match and every single tournament then it's not going to happen," the 18-year-old Scot said.

"You guys are expecting me to win matches like this. The guy's ranked 20 places in front of me, he is a much better player than me."

It's difficult for me to go out there and try to perform to the best that I can when I'm expected to win all these matches
Andy Murray

Murray's 6-1 6-3 6-3 defeat by Chela came a day after fellow Briton Tim Henman fell to Dmitry Tursunov.

But the teenager admitted feeling the weight of expectation at the Vodafone Arena.

"Everybody has a bad tournament sometime. Unfortunately, it came here," he added.

"It's difficult for me to go out there and try to perform to the best that I can when I'm expected to win all these matches."

After making the biggest jump of any player in 2005 as he surged from world number 514 to number 65 by the end of the year, Murray has been touted as a future champion.

"You don't think there's any pressure on me?" Murray answered after it was suggested in the media conference that he has received nothing but good press since he arrived on the circuit.

"Well, if you don't think that, then I'm obviously going to disagree on something.

"If you guys don't think you're putting pressure on me, then that's fine. I'll forget about it."

Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport1/hi/tennis/4620592.stm
Published: 2006/01/17 13:06:53 GMT
© BBC MMVI

Lee
01-17-2006, 03:01 PM
Chela has a very good incentive to advance. ;)

A rematch vs Hewitt!!!! Can't wait!!!!

The Pro
01-17-2006, 03:04 PM
I think to say he was embarrasing is an overstatement. Most are familiar with Andy's personality on the court (I'll always be disappointed with it but I recognise it's part of who he is).

But he does need to loosen up about this pressure thing, all players who represent their countries experience pressure. It's stupid to get worked up about it. He should just prepare stock 'let's not get too optimistic' responses rather than get narky all the fucking time. We're not seeing the real Andy here.

Or maybe we are :unsure:

I was reading some news on Nadal's website the other day though, they were going on about his doctor and scans they were doing and stuff they were focusing on with his feet. It made me think that no wonder some players are streets ahead of others, in their support, training, funding, fitness.

The pressure on Andy is just not fair, but he's gonna have to deal with it. He does well with what he's got and it would be a shame to waste it on negativity. I'm still proud of the guy.

basil333
01-17-2006, 03:33 PM
Sorry but I thought his actions on the court yesterday, especially as it was one of the top tennis courts in the world was childish and embarrasing. He needs to grow up - quickly - if he is going to fit into the reputation suit people have given him.

I thought Chela did well to play the calm game he did against the crowd that was pro-Andy. Chela must have thought it was Christmas again.

R.Federer
01-17-2006, 04:15 PM
It seems, from andi's comments later after the match, that he does not do well under pressure
He will need to adapt better to the pressure from media. No one likes pressure, but players find way to work with it.

This makes me give even more respect to Henman, he has done pretty well in the last 10 years despite huge UK media pressure

dmit424
01-17-2006, 04:23 PM
Not really surprised. I think alot of these players, Monfils are Murray specifically, are being a bit overhyped... They are both young and have a nice base to work with, but are still very raw. Neither of them has done anything all that impressive as of yet, so I'm not sure this "teenagers losing" theme is such a huge surprise. Besides Nadal, there aren't that many really good teens in the men's game right now. Monfils, Murray, Berdych, and even Gasquet are still very inconsistent on tour.

Speaking of Chela, he is a very well rounded player. I saw him take a set off Andy in Cincinnati... The crowd a little stunned, but there was nothing surprising about it. Chela has a nice shot off of both sides, has a solid serve, and plays fairly consistent and smart tennis. The only reason he isn't top 10 is the same reason Ginepri and Haas aren't top 10 at this point: There's nothing that really defines his game. Hewitt plays high percentages and is speedy, Federer is Federer, Andy has his serve, Safin has amazing power, Nadal has a great forehand and speed... All these guys like Ginepri, Haas, Chela.. are all very solid and dangerous players, but against the very top guys, they don't have enough to pull them through most of the time.

dmit424
01-17-2006, 04:25 PM
It seems, from andi's comments later after the match, that he does not do well under pressure
He will need to adapt better to the pressure from media. No one likes pressure, but players find way to work with it.

This makes me give even more respect to Henman, he has done pretty well in the last 10 years despite huge UK media pressure


He'll get used to it as he gains more confidence. He'll start seperating himself from his expectations... He'll start finding himself on the tour and realizing how to progress by setting his own goals and leaving the "hype" stuff behind. The hype and expectations are always created by people who really want the player to succeed, and are thus usually biased and almost always unrealistic... Soon, Murray will realize this and work at his own pace.

*Ljubica*
01-17-2006, 04:36 PM
I think you're right, he was troubled by something, and it was most likely a mixture of being daunted and the heat. I do like Murray but i wasn't expecting him to win at all, really. Well, maybe the little hope i had was just blind fandom :lol:

It could've been closer though. Towards the end of the match, i think Murray picked up a little. He played into rallies a bit more, which is what he usually plays like, rather than being hasty and pulling the trigger too early- which is what he did in the first two sets.

But agreed, it's not that shocking considering the gap in experience etc between the two. The commentator even said that despite his hype, it can't be forgotten that it was only his 12th or 13th tour level match. Well done, Chela.

Agreed. As I said earlier in this thread - Andy is little more than a child - and if he is going to play against someone as experienced and solid as Chela then he will have problems and has admitted so himself. Chela played well, but to say he wiped the floor wth Murray or "embarassed" him is vastly unfair in my opinion. I don't like Murray and I do quite like Chela - but, as you say, Murray did play better towards the end - and will learn from this experience, so I don't think his fans should be too unhappy at this result, just as Chela fans shouldn't gloat too much and expect him to go and beat Hewitt with the same ease. As for Murray's behaviour - yes - he threw a few childish tantrums that I don't personaly like - but it was no big deal in my opinion - he isn't the first player to do this and certainly won't be the last, and I've seen players a lot older and supposedly more "mature" do far worse :rolleyes: I hope he can learn from this and move on to better things as he matures both physically and emotionally....he may not be a favourite of mine but I think he is good for the game here in Britain.

revolution
01-17-2006, 05:33 PM
Andy was lethargic- he didn't look up to it enough and his shots were wayward and his serving below par

Chela was consistent enough, but hey it's only Andy who's shit out of the youngsters after they all went out!

Daniela_CABJ
01-17-2006, 06:09 PM
Before the match, Juan said "I'm the favorite because I have more experience than him". I watched that in sportscenter and thought "Juan... :scared: "
But then I saw the match, Juan played really good. Murray didn't, and made a lot of mistakes.
I thought it was going to be harder but I think the result shows how the match was.

Vamos Juan against Hewitt!!! :yeah:

Raquel
01-17-2006, 06:58 PM
Juan played really good. Murray didn't, and made a lot of mistakes.

I agree. Andy made way too many cheap mistakes. Over 40 unforced errors in three quick sets is obviously not good enough to win. One positive is that he has definitely upped the power on his forehand. He just needs to get used to reining it in a bit more.

musefanatic
01-17-2006, 07:03 PM
Poor Andy :( Such a shame but hopefully he'll sort all the weaknesses out soon ;)

Action Jackson
01-17-2006, 09:29 PM
Overlook the fact that Chela made less than 20 unforced errors in the match, but what just cause he is Andy Murray he is supposed to no-names like Chela only on reputation.

AgassiDomination
01-17-2006, 09:30 PM
Murray sucks, plain and simple.

PaulieM
01-17-2006, 09:34 PM
:)

Raquel
01-17-2006, 09:34 PM
Overlook the fact that Chela made less than 20 unforced errors in the match, but what just cause he is Andy Murray he is supposed to no-names like Chela only on reputation.
Chela was very solid and Andy played badly. No one is saying Andy should have won this match - on reputation or otherwise.

Action Jackson
01-17-2006, 09:38 PM
Chela was very solid and Andy played badly. No one is saying Andy should have won this match - on reputation or otherwise.

It's not like Chela can't play, but good old Andy blaming expectations, what expectation doesn't create unforced errors. I am loving the Aus Open and heading out there soon, good for me yay.

Raquel
01-17-2006, 09:47 PM
It's not like Chela can't play, but good old Andy blaming expectations, what expectation doesn't create unforced errors. I am loving the Aus Open and heading out there soon, good for me yay.
Chela can play, no doubt. Andy can't blame press expectations for those errors. He's just going to have to get used to it.

Corey Feldman
01-18-2006, 03:07 AM
that was a truely pitiful performance from Andy and he has to go away and have a long hard think about himself after this..
i did expect chela to win as i knew his game would be to solid for Muzza right now, but to get smashed 1,3 and 3 with so many easy errors was poor and it was his attitude i dont like.. he needs to change it, far to much negative/stupid reactions and moaning when he loses points.

needs to stop giving away his emotions coz players feed of that and punish him more

fco253
01-18-2006, 10:10 AM
I saw the whole match, and nobody should ovelook Chela's role in it ... it was one of the best matches Juan has played in a long time, he was hitting clean and strong from both sides.

Nathaliia
01-18-2006, 10:17 AM
i saw this score only a moment ago. how pathetic!!!! not that I wish bad things to Murray, no - I only have fun ins uch situations when media put loads of hype in someone and his / her promotion and this person surprisingly loses.
but the media still can enjoy the repeat of Hewitt - Chela drama.

i wish all the best to Chela however even if he defeated Murray, so shouldn't have enough power for Hewitt. And i rather tend to be optimistic about my favourites who include Chela too.

Action Jackson
01-18-2006, 10:20 AM
I saw the whole match, and nobody should ovelook Chela's role in it ... it was one of the best matches Juan has played in a long time, he was hitting clean and strong from both sides.

Speaking sense should get you banned from MTF.

prima donna
01-18-2006, 10:27 AM
Speaking sense should get you banned from MTF.
:worship: :worship: :worship:

Raquel
01-18-2006, 06:28 PM
I saw the whole match, and nobody should ovelook Chela's role in it ... it was one of the best matches Juan has played in a long time, he was hitting clean and strong from both sides.
It was definitely one of his best matches in a while, considering it's only his 3rd main tour win since New Haven last August. It's even more disappointing from Andy's point of view that he couldn't play better against someone who's not been in the best of form lately.

that was a truely pitiful performance from Andy and he has to go away and have a long hard think about himself after this..
i did expect chela to win as i knew his game would be to solid for Muzza right now, but to get smashed 1,3 and 3 with so many easy errors was poor and it was his attitude i dont like.. he needs to change it, far to much negative/stupid reactions and moaning when he loses points.

needs to stop giving away his emotions coz players feed of that and punish him more
I agree with all of that.....but at least we got to see Scottish flags taking over from the Swedish and Dutch flags all round the courts in Australia, even if just for one match :p