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The Australian Open should be played in Sydney, not Melbourne

Federerthebest
01-16-2006, 04:40 PM
I don't understand why Melbourne has the Australian Open over Sydney. Arguments in Sydney's favour:

1) Sydney is the city which most foreigners think is the capital of Australia, even though it is not. It would make more sense to the rest of the world if Sydney, Australia's largest and most prominent city, hosted Australia's grand-slam
2) Sydney has a more interesting culture and sights than does Melbourne. Melbourne does not boast any landmarks to compete with the Opera House and the Harbour Bridge, which most tourists to Australia regard as "must-see", no matter how fickle that may be. I would also argue that Sydney has better bars and beaches. The timing of the Australian Open also coincides with the Sydney Festival, Australia's largest annual cultural event. Overseas tourists would be more likely to come to Sydney to see the Australian Open rather than Melbourne
3) Sydney has a larger population than Melbourne and this may mean better attendance and more profits for the organisers

Sydney already has its Olympic Park which would be large enough to host the Australian Open; or at the very most would need only a few more courts.
So, why does Melbourne have the Australian Open over Sydney?

rexman
01-16-2006, 04:47 PM
I don't understand why Melbourne has the Australian Open over Sydney. Arguments in Sydney's favour:

1) Sydney is the city which most foreigners think is the capital of Australia, even though it is not. It would make more sense to the rest of the world if Sydney, Australia's largest and most prominent city, hosted Australia's grand-slam
2) Sydney has a more interesting culture and sights than does Melbourne. Melbourne does not boast any landmarks to compete with the Opera House and the Harbour Bridge, which most tourists to Australia regard as "must-see", no matter how fickle that may be. I would also argue that Sydney has better bars and beaches. The timing of the Australian Open also coincides with the Sydney Festival, Australia's largest annual cultural event. Overseas tourists would be more likely to come to Sydney to see the Australian Open rather than Melbourne
3) Sydney has a larger population than Melbourne and this may mean better attendance and more profits for the organisers

Sydney already has its Olympic Park which would be large enough to host the Australian Open; or at the very most would need only a few more courts.
So, why does Melbourne have the Australian Open over Sydney?

1. So things should be changed because foreigners are ignorant?

2. Melbourne is beautiful and the players love it. They aren't there to sight see, they are there to play tennis.

3. The courts are always packed anyway. Attendance isn't a problem.

TheBoiledEgg
01-16-2006, 04:53 PM
Melbourne is the SPORTS capital of Australia, simple as that.

Aus Open used to moved around Australia quite alot until the 70's
even was played in New Zealand a few times.

Federerthebest
01-16-2006, 04:57 PM
2. Melbourne is beautiful and the players love it. They aren't there to sight see, they are there to play tennis.

The player's sightseeing is OBVIOUSLY not the issue; the issue is which city is most likely to attract overseas tourism

1. So things should be changed because foreigners are ignorant?

It is not about ignorance, Sydney is Australia's most prominent, populous and famous city: that is a fact. Also, that the Aussie Open is a played in Aussie City of which less foreigners are aware may in fact be another factor hurting its prestige

RodLo
01-16-2006, 05:01 PM
Sorry, I really don't see your point.

Here's how I see it....If it's not broken, don't fix it. The Aussie Open has been doing well for ages, so I really don't see the problem with it's location. :scratch: People aren't there for the bars, beaches, and landmarks...they are there to watch tennis. The same goes for players, as rexman said.

And who cares if foreigners think Sydney is the capital? It wouldn't make the tournament any more appealing than it already is. I really could not care less about where a Grand Slam (or any tournament, for that matter) is located...big city, small city, middle of nowhere. Do you really think people wouldn't come if the US Open was held in Sand Springs, Oklahoma instead of New York City? The place would still be packed. People go for the tennis, not for the sights...which is why most of their time is spent in the stands and on the grounds, not strolling through the city. In my opinion, it's just an added bonus...but definitely not a necessity.

Neely
01-16-2006, 05:02 PM
Melbourne is the SPORTS capital of Australia, simple as that.

Aus Open used to moved around Australia quite alot until the 70's
even was played in New Zealand a few times.
Very correct, they even played it in Sydney while moving around, but for some reason I don't know they settled down in Melbourne. Maybe they were sick of moving around or Melbourne was THE place to hold the tournament :rocker2:

Deboogle!.
01-16-2006, 05:05 PM
The stands were almost full yesterday for the start of play at 11am. I thought that was awesome. It looks like the most fun tournament and the coolest slam. Leave it alone! :)

Federerthebest
01-16-2006, 05:06 PM
People go for the tennis, not for the sights.

lmao, rubbish. most people don't travel all the way on an extremely-expensive trip overseas with the SOLE INTENT of watching a grand-slam tournament. naturally, you would expect them to travel a bit around the country, see the sights, experience those parts of the country's culture in which they are interested. the grand-slam would be BONUS for a lot of the people. if you seriously would travel halfway around the world to a different country and sit on your arse and watch tennis all day without doing anything else, then you are a pretty boring guy

Deboogle!.
01-16-2006, 05:08 PM
Since when should the location of a slam be changed for people who are traveling from far distances? Again, the stands were practically full, that's unheard of for the other slams on the first day.

TheBoiledEgg
01-16-2006, 05:09 PM
why else do you think that they hold the biggest sports events in Melbourne for ??

the MCG has the biggest cricket ground, 87,000+
Melbourne Cup
Formula 1 GP

Chloe le Bopper
01-16-2006, 05:11 PM
Sydney is the city which most foreigners think is the capital of Australia, even though it is not.

This line was so stupid that I couldn't even be bothered to read the rest.

Thanks for the laugh.

Federerthebest
01-16-2006, 05:14 PM
Since when should the location of a slam be changed for people who are traveling from far distances?

i'm not saying the slam isn't successful

i'm saying it could be MORE SUCCESSFUL :)

we all know overseas tourism is a huge boost to any country's economy, so why not attempt to maximize it further?

Federerthebest
01-16-2006, 05:16 PM
This line was so stupid that I couldn't even be bothered to read the rest.

Thanks for the laugh.

lol ;)

unfortunately, it's the truth.

or do you actually think it is the capital of australia: is that why it is stupid to you? ;)

Angle Queen
01-16-2006, 05:29 PM
If Slams are only to be played in their host nations' capitals...then it's time for the USO to move the DC area! Riiiight.... :rolleyes:

Federerthebest
01-16-2006, 05:34 PM
If Slams are only to be played in their host nations' capitals...then it's time for the USO to move the DC area! Riiiight..

congratulations on completely missing the point :retard:

firstly, the point is not about capitals, it is about international repute. are you seriously suggesting melbourne is as well known abroad as new york? :retard:

secondly, i never suggested moving the australian open to the capital, because sydney is not the capital :retard:

Duncan
01-16-2006, 05:43 PM
i think Melbourne has some of the best tennis arena's in the world. It should never ever move!!!

Chloe le Bopper
01-16-2006, 06:13 PM
I know what the capital of Australia is, dear. That's not why it was dumb ;)

alfonsojose
01-16-2006, 06:18 PM
If the girls get Kangoroos, why not Koalas for guys trophies :shrug:

alfonsojose
01-16-2006, 06:21 PM
If Slams are only to be played in their host nations' capitals...then it's time for the USO to move the DC area! Riiiight.... :rolleyes:
Hopefully someone would smash a ball in Dubya's head .. oops :angel:

alfonsojose
01-16-2006, 06:22 PM
Or Focus on the family banning Sharapova's grunt as inmoral :rolleyes:

RodLo
01-16-2006, 06:28 PM
lmao, rubbish. most people don't travel all the way on an extremely-expensive trip overseas with the SOLE INTENT of watching a grand-slam tournament. naturally, you would expect them to travel a bit around the country, see the sights, experience those parts of the country's culture in which they are interested. the grand-slam would be BONUS for a lot of the people. if you seriously would travel halfway around the world to a different country and sit on your arse and watch tennis all day without doing anything else, then you are a pretty boring guy

Right...you got me. Damn. :rolleyes:

RodLo
01-16-2006, 06:29 PM
congratulations on completely missing the point :retard:

And congratulations on posting a completely :retard: thread.

Levo.
01-16-2006, 07:59 PM
Melbourne is the SPORTS capital of Australia, simple as that.
I'd beg to differ...

Well I guess it depends on if you like NRL or AFL, I happen to like NRL so I'd say Sydney is every bit as big as Melbourne for sports.

Hell, the OLYMPICS were in Sydney, not Melbourne...

SwissMister1
01-16-2006, 08:30 PM
If Slams are only to be played in their host nations' capitals...then it's time for the USO to move the DC area! Riiiight.... :rolleyes:

works for me :D

Space Cowgirl
01-16-2006, 09:17 PM
Hell, the OLYMPICS were in Sydney, not Melbourne...
Yeah, but Melbourne had the Olympics long before Sydney (1956) :devil:
IMO Melbourne is fine as a location for the Oz Open. You obviously haven't been there, or you would know that while it doesn't have a harbour or beaches to boast about, it does have great shopping and eating, not to mention the Great Ocean Road and a great surf coast not far away. And if Sydney is your thing, it's only an hour or so away by plane, perfect for a visit before or after the tourney!

Psst Melbourne Tourist Board: I'm open to all financial offers to further promote your city ;)

star
01-16-2006, 09:23 PM
lmao, rubbish. most people don't travel all the way on an extremely-expensive trip overseas with the SOLE INTENT of watching a grand-slam tournament. naturally, you would expect them to travel a bit around the country, see the sights, experience those parts of the country's culture in which they are interested. the grand-slam would be BONUS for a lot of the people. if you seriously would travel halfway around the world to a different country and sit on your arse and watch tennis all day without doing anything else, then you are a pretty boring guy

If the AO were lacking in attendance, your argument might make some sense. However, the tournament isn't lacking in attendance. It's sold out all the time. If it's sold out to Australians rather than to foreigners, it makes no difference. If you are going to travel to Australia to watch tennis, you probably have enough money in your pocket to take a side trip to Sydney if you are that keen to see the harbor bridge and the opera house.

But seriously when I go to a tennis tournament, there's very little time left for anything else except maybe a nice meal out. There's so much going on on the tennis grounds and I don't want to miss any of it! But, then again, I might be pretty boring to you. :kiss:

Lisbeth
01-16-2006, 09:27 PM
I'm from Sydney and I disagree. Melbourne does a good job and big events should be spread around the big cities, not all in one place. Lots of people travel down for it anyway, just as many people came up from Melbourne for the Olympics (for example).

BTW, if it had been held in Sydney this week, there would have been about 1 hour total play yesterday and today due to rain ;)

1) Sydney is the city which most foreigners think is the capital of Australia, even though it is not.

This is the funniest thing I have read this year :rolls: Maybe we should hold it in Canberra because it actually is the capital?

Dirk
01-16-2006, 09:32 PM
Or Focus on the family banning Sharapova's grunt as inmoral :rolleyes:

If you preach tolerance then you have to practice it towards traditionalists.

Dirk
01-16-2006, 09:34 PM
If the AO were lacking in attendance, your argument might make some sense. However, the tournament isn't lacking in attendance. It's sold out all the time. If it's sold out to Australians rather than to foreigners, it makes no difference. If you are going to travel to Australia to watch tennis, you probably have enough money in your pocket to take a side trip to Sydney if you are that keen to see the harbor bridge and the opera house.

But seriously when I go to a tennis tournament, there's very little time left for anything else except maybe a nice meal out. There's so much going on on the tennis grounds and I don't want to miss any of it! But, then again, I might be pretty boring to you. :kiss:

That doesn't make you boring but makes you smart since you are getting the most for you money, although it will make you rather red as well.

Sjengster
01-16-2006, 09:56 PM
Hey, why not move it to Canberra. The players could spend their days off touring the world's international embassies as I did, and then hiding in museums and restaurants to escape the torrential downpour. OK, I was there in the winter....

World Beater
01-16-2006, 10:18 PM
i see your point, but the AO is easily the best grand slam for the fans. attendance is unbelievable. The usopen and RG are pathetic in the opening round in comparison.

there is no need to move it. i would certainly do so if it were struggling, but its too much of a risk and needless investment.

Federerthebest
01-17-2006, 01:44 AM
I know what the capital of Australia is, dear. That's not why it was dumb

lol, if you say so, friend :)

maybe i should not have raised the issue of capitals at all; it seems a serious point of confusion for the less cerebral among our number ;)

IMO Melbourne is fine as a location for the Oz Open. You obviously haven't been there, or you would know that while it doesn't have a harbour or beaches to boast about, it does have great shopping and eating, not to mention the Great Ocean Road and a great surf coast not far away.

i have been to melbourne (travelled from there up great ocean road to sydney) and you are right, it is a nice city. but sydney is IMO a more attractive city - better nightlife, more famous sights and culture - and would have greater appeal to tourists, given its greater international renown.

If the AO were lacking in attendance, your argument might make some sense. However, the tournament isn't lacking in attendance. It's sold out all the time. If it's sold out to Australians rather than to foreigners, it makes no difference.

there is a big difference between the dollar of domestic spectators and that of foreign tourism. foreign tourism is why countries compete for the honour of holding the olympics, world cup matches etc.; it's why the aus open center court has 'melbourne' emblazoned on it. it is not so much from the attendance of the tournament that any profit is made, but rather the tourists' spending on accomodation and other sightseeing :)

roly23
01-17-2006, 02:40 AM
I don't understand why Melbourne has the Australian Open over Sydney. Arguments in Sydney's favour:

1) Sydney is the city which most foreigners think is the capital of Australia, even though it is not. It would make more sense to the rest of the world if Sydney, Australia's largest and most prominent city, hosted Australia's grand-slam
2) Sydney has a more interesting culture and sights than does Melbourne. Melbourne does not boast any landmarks to compete with the Opera House and the Harbour Bridge, which most tourists to Australia regard as "must-see", no matter how fickle that may be. I would also argue that Sydney has better bars and beaches. The timing of the Australian Open also coincides with the Sydney Festival, Australia's largest annual cultural event. Overseas tourists would be more likely to come to Sydney to see the Australian Open rather than Melbourne
3) Sydney has a larger population than Melbourne and this may mean better attendance and more profits for the organisers

Sydney already has its Olympic Park which would be large enough to host the Australian Open; or at the very most would need only a few more courts.
So, why does Melbourne have the Australian Open over Sydney?

You are delusional.

Given its distance from the rest of the world, the majority of spectators at the Aus Open are going to be Australians, no matter which city it is held in. And each year in Melbourne, attendance is increasing.

A quick check of the Australian Bureau of Statistics would show you that Sydney has a population of 4.23 million to Melbourne's 3.6m (2003-2004). And, for three years running, Melbourne has significantly outgrown Sydney, recording the highest population increase of any capital in Australia. Not that big a difference buddy, especially when you consider the sports mad nature of Melbournians. Any increase in profits that you mention would barely cover the costs in further development of facilities.

I guess those Commonwealth Games organisers are also kicking themselves that this years games are being held in Melbourne :rolleyes: Better move the Grand Prix to Sydney too. Maybe they could turn the Harbour Bridge into Pit Lane.

tennisvideos
01-17-2006, 02:59 AM
I'm from Sydney but I say leave it in Melbourne. They are doing a great job with it. Attendances are always huge and the courts are almost always full making for a great atmosphere.

If tourists want to visit Sydney then it's only a 1 hour flight from Melbourne so they can easily go to the Aussie Open and then spend some days in Sydney as well if they choose. :)

Federerthebest
01-17-2006, 03:05 AM
Given its distance from the rest of the world, the majority of spectators at the Aus Open are going to be Australians, no matter which city it is held in.

what a brilliant insight :) the majority of visitors to the french open are also - guess what? - french. any other pieces of genius you would like to add? ;)
ok, buddy, let's have a browse around the australian bureau of statistics website, given that you are so fond of it ;)

"Tourism is one of Australia's largest and fastest-growing industries. The n umbers of short-term visitors to Australia grew from 2.8 million in 1992–93 to nearly 5 million in 2002–03.

The inbound tourism sector contributed about A$16 billion to the Australian economy in 2003-03. Inbound tourism accounts for 10.8 per cent of Australia's total export earnings, more than the combined value of Australian iron ore and aluminium exports for the year."

i guess overseas tourists aren't so daunted by distances as you claim, hmmm? i think if we applied LOGIC we would see that the 2000 olympics and the rugby world cup would have provided enough evidence of that :)

A quick check of the Australian Bureau of Statistics would show you that Sydney has a population of 4.23 million to Melbourne's 3.6m (2003-2004). And, for three years running, Melbourne has significantly outgrown Sydney, recording the highest population increase of any capital in Australia.

lol, perhaps you aren't aware of simple mathematics, but it is easier for an area with a smaller population to grow at a faster percentage rate than one with a large population ;) no matter its growth rate now, melbourne will never have a larger population than sydney, and that is the point :)

Any increase in profits that you mention would barely cover the costs in further development of facilities.

yeah bud, how could we ever justify the expense of building a few more courts, which sydney needs more of anyway? :)

MisterQ
01-17-2006, 03:10 AM
Hold it in Perth. :cool:

fenomeno2111
01-17-2006, 03:25 AM
Me and my family of 10 people were thinking about going to the Aussie Open this year but we didn't go because it was not hosted in the CAPITAL city of Australia...so I didn't bother to go. DARN THOSE INCOMPETENTS ORGANIZERS :mad: :mad:

fererrodf
01-17-2006, 03:28 AM
Melbourne is the centre for Sports and the Arts. It should definitely be held in Melbourne. It's a great city.

Magical Trevor
01-17-2006, 04:42 AM
I live in Sydney, and even I think the AO is great in Melbourne.

Olympic Park in Sydney isn't that big, Melbourne Park has considerably more courts and Centre court is the only decent stadium court in Sydney. Court 1 used to be good, but they removed it and put fanfest there instead.

As for playing the open in Canberra :p Sure it's the capital, but there isn't a whole lot to do there, and visually, it's too perfect. Absolutely no litter, which is good, but the whole place is bloody symmetrical. It drives me insane.

ClaycourtaZzZz.
01-17-2006, 05:37 AM
:retard:

Ferrero Forever
01-17-2006, 08:46 AM
-Melbourne has some great sights, we have the great ocean road which is enough by itself, the most beautiful drive you'll ever go on. We have a good night life, it's a great place to hold the open
-Melbourne Park is so easily accessable. You can catch the train from virtually anywhere in Victoria, and then just take a tram (which is free with an australian open ticket) to the venue. It's basically in the city, and if you have a hotel in the city, you can even walk there
-It's just a great place for the slam

The one thing that would improve the australian open (not that it needs it) is not being right next to Richmond station. The trains passing by can get really annoying, but it's only a little problem that doens't need to be fixed. LEAVE THE SLAM IN MELBOURNE

RonE
01-17-2006, 08:50 AM
Hold it in Perth. :cool:

Nah way too isolated. Charlieville, Queensland all the way baby :rocker2:

au_sports_opinion
01-17-2006, 09:07 AM
Also a big plus is that Melbourne is the most multicultural city in Australia.

Hence you get supporters for foreign countries from communities within Melbourne.

Right now I'm watching Bogomolov vs. Gonzalez and the crowd is absolutely jumping with Chilean chanting.

Hagar
01-17-2006, 09:18 AM
Yeah, but Melbourne had the Olympics long before Sydney (1956) :devil:
IMO Melbourne is fine as a location for the Oz Open. You obviously haven't been there, or you would know that while it doesn't have a harbour or beaches to boast about, it does have great shopping and eating, not to mention the Great Ocean Road and a great surf coast not far away. And if Sydney is your thing, it's only an hour or so away by plane, perfect for a visit before or after the tourney!

Psst Melbourne Tourist Board: I'm open to all financial offers to further promote your city ;)

LOL. Sydney is awesome, most probably the best city in the world but Melbourne is not far behind. If I had to chose between the two, I would probably go for Melbourne, it's a more European flavour to it.

williaer
01-17-2006, 09:33 AM
i think melbourne does an effing fabulous job @ hosting the open and i dont think that it should move to sydney at all!

it's hard to say sydney is 'better' than melbourne, but maybe it's more advertised and people know it better than melbourne. by holding the slam in melbourne, and not sydney, we can show our wonderful city off to the world so than they can realise that sydney isnt the only good city in australia.

Federerthebest
01-17-2006, 09:37 AM
Also a big plus is that Melbourne is the most multicultural city in Australia.

Hence you get supporters for foreign countries from communities within Melbourne.

yep, though australia is a very multicultural country as a whole, i think you would get that in any of its cities :)

wcr
01-17-2006, 03:30 PM
lmao, rubbish. most people don't travel all the way on an extremely-expensive trip overseas with the SOLE INTENT of watching a grand-slam tournament. naturally, you would expect them to travel a bit around the country, see the sights, experience those parts of the country's culture in which they are interested. the grand-slam would be BONUS for a lot of the people. if you seriously would travel halfway around the world to a different country and sit on your arse and watch tennis all day without doing anything else, then you are a pretty boring guy

I've taken "extremely-expensive trips overseas with the SOLE INTENT of watching" Roger Federer, Goran Ivanisevic, Stefan Edberg amongst others play far lesser tournaments than a grand slam.

Although I've never travelled to Australia, and would like to, I have heard that Melbourne is a beautiful and very charming city that has a more European quality to it than Sydney. Perhaps our Aussie friends on the board can attest to this?

Jorn Utzon's Sydney Opera House is my favorite building, not only for its beauty but also for its story and its enormous impact on the artistic culture of Australia. It is just huge in so many ways. Having said that, I would like to visit both cities rather than just sit on my "arse and watch tennis all day." Why not, mate?

RodLo
01-17-2006, 06:20 PM
Are you done yet?

dmit424
01-17-2006, 06:35 PM
From people I know who've visited both cities, I've heard alot say something along the lines of, "Sydney is a good city, but it's more like a busy tourist city, and resembles coastal American cities such as San Diego... Melbourne, on the other hand, has more flavor to it and is truly like no other." I haven't been to Australia myself, but I think it may be possible that Sydney is held in such "prominence" internationally because of its famous sites such as Sydney Opera House and the Harbour Bridge... and even everyone's heard of Bondi Beach here in the U.S... But that doesn't mean it's any more interesting than Melbourne.

Ofcourse I may be wrong... But this isn't just Sydney. For example, I have visited France and while the Eiffel Tower seems to be the ultimate symbol representing France here in the U.S., I recall it being far far far far down the list of "interesting things in France." In Paris alone, I enjoyed an innumurable number of things more than the Eiffer Tower.

Action Jackson
01-17-2006, 10:41 PM
Thanks for the laugh.

Kristen
01-18-2006, 10:23 AM
Where would this supposed Sydney grand slam location be? Sydney doesn't really have a lot of space left, unless you want to cut into one of our National Parks.

Peta Pan
01-18-2006, 05:11 PM
All the points I would raise have been raised already and it's obviously like flogging a dead horse so why bother.

Melbourne IS the sports capital of Australia - the end.

Federerthebest
01-18-2006, 06:19 PM
Melbourne IS the sports capital of Australia - the end.

why they make it sports capital?

it need not be sports capital

in fact, it shouldn't be :)

marifline
01-18-2006, 06:32 PM
But what was you real aim doing this thread ? The AO won't move to Sydney....whatever you can say

Space Cowgirl
01-18-2006, 08:43 PM
LOL. Sydney is awesome, most probably the best city in the world but Melbourne is not far behind. If I had to chose between the two, I would probably go for Melbourne, it's a more European flavour to it.
to be honest, my favourite Aussie city was Perth :D
Sydney: great location, all listed already, but I didn't like the smog cloud that hung over the CBD (as viewed from the North Shore on the bus from Manly to Parramatta, for the pedants :p )
Melbourne: leave the AO there! Everyone, even the Sydneysiders, agree that it is the best location. I think Federerthebest is either trying to wind everyone up or is just deluded.

Fumus
01-18-2006, 08:44 PM
I think the US open should be played in Albany but what do I know.

Lisbeth
01-18-2006, 10:08 PM
Where would this supposed Sydney grand slam location be? Sydney doesn't really have a lot of space left, unless you want to cut into one of our National Parks.

On great big boats on the harbour, perhaps? ;)

Peta Pan
01-18-2006, 10:27 PM
why they make it sports capital?

it need not be sports capital

in fact, it shouldn't be :)
Um why? Because Melbournians are the ones who are the most sports mad in the country :shrug:

We'd show up for anything I reckon.

I'm not saying that other states DON'T have sports mad fans... and there are obviously a lot in here from other states, but Melbourne is the place that gets the biggest crowds for events.

Sydney has tried and tried to promote their Golden Slipper horse race and tried to make it more important than the Melbourne Cup, but it will never happen because the crowds just don't show up like they do here. Our AFL matches are often much more attended than NRL matches (and that's not an AFL v NRL comment because I love both).

For the record, Perth is my favourite Australian state too after visiting there last year. There's no way they could hold the AO either.

RickDaStick
01-07-2008, 02:11 AM
I like it in Melbourne but Sydney would be interesting too

NinaNina19
01-07-2008, 02:23 AM
I think the US open should be played in Albany but what do I know.
Lol. That would be really nice for me actually, I can get there in 3 hours then.

El Legenda
01-07-2008, 02:27 AM
I don't understand why Melbourne has the Australian Open over Sydney. Arguments in Sydney's favour:

1) Sydney is the city which most foreigners think is the capital of Australia, even though it is not. It would make more sense to the rest of the world if Sydney, Australia's largest and most prominent city, hosted Australia's grand-slam
2) Sydney has a more interesting culture and sights than does Melbourne. Melbourne does not boast any landmarks to compete with the Opera House and the Harbour Bridge, which most tourists to Australia regard as "must-see", no matter how fickle that may be. I would also argue that Sydney has better bars and beaches. The timing of the Australian Open also coincides with the Sydney Festival, Australia's largest annual cultural event. Overseas tourists would be more likely to come to Sydney to see the Australian Open rather than Melbourne
3) Sydney has a larger population than Melbourne and this may mean better attendance and more profits for the organisers

Sydney already has its Olympic Park which would be large enough to host the Australian Open; or at the very most would need only a few more courts.
So, why does Melbourne have the Australian Open over Sydney?

because people already go to Sydney to see the things you said, its better to have it in Melbourne so more of the country gets to be seen and visited and not all outside money going into one city

Game.Set.and.Match

Fee
01-07-2008, 02:29 AM
Yay, someone bumped a two year old thread! :banana:

Anyway, I agree, the US Open should be moved to Sydney. Keep the AO in Melbourne. :devil:

~*BGT*~
01-07-2008, 02:38 AM
I don't understand why Melbourne has the Australian Open over Sydney. Arguments in Sydney's favour:

1) Sydney is the city which most foreigners think is the capital of Australia, even though it is not.


This is the funniest thing I have read this year :rolls: Maybe we should hold it in Canberra because it actually is the capital?

:eek: Seriously?? I never knew that. :spit: I always considered myself to be intellectual, worldy... I passed World Geography with a 100!! But Sydney is not the capital of Australia.. and Canberra is?? I feel :retard: Wow, I learn something everyday on MTF. :lol: :rocker2:

This reminds me that it wasn't until I was 14 that I learned Ireland and Scotland were two different places. It's not that I'm not bright; I was just never taught otherwise. Way to go American education system. :aparty:

azza
01-07-2008, 02:42 AM
i agreeee lol only coz i lvie in Sydney :ras:

Marek.
01-07-2008, 02:43 AM
I think the US Open should be held in Los Angeles so I can go to it. :p ;)

azza
01-07-2008, 02:44 AM
:eek: Seriously?? I never knew that. :spit: I always considered myself to be intellectual, worldy... I passed World Geography with a 100!! But Sydney is not the capital of Australia.. and Canberra is?? I feel :retard: Wow, I learn something everyday on MTF. :lol: :rocker2:

This reminds me that it wasn't until I was 14 that I learned Ireland and Scotland were two different places. It's not that I'm not bright; I was just never taught otherwise. Way to go American education system. :aparty:

lol your stupidity never ceases to amaze me. :haha:

HNCS
01-07-2008, 02:46 AM
i'm from sydney. now as much as i want the AO to be in my city so travelling to the AO is not so tedious!!!! , i prefer melbourne. anyone who has been to both these two cities..well will love melbourne.

~*BGT*~
01-07-2008, 05:57 AM
lol your stupidity never ceases to amaze me. :haha:

There's quite a difference between stupidity and ignorance. From dictionary.com --

stupidity: a poor ability to understand or to profit from experience

ignorance: The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.

In world geography we didn't have the time to learn about and study Oceania. In fact, we had to teach ourselves Eastern Europe and Russia and Asia. I even had to do a presentation on two nations from those regions; I chose Ukraine and Japan. So I'm not stupid for not knowing something that was the responsibility of a adult to teach me. I am ignorant because I did not know and assumed the truth. But now I do know. The capital of Australia is Canberra, and Ireland and Scotland are two different nations within the United Kingdom. :wavey:

Mr.Gasquet
01-07-2008, 11:13 AM
Um why? Because Melbournians are the ones who are the most sports mad in the country :shrug:

We'd show up for anything I reckon.

I'm not saying that other states DON'T have sports mad fans... and there are obviously a lot in here from other states, but Melbourne is the place that gets the biggest crowds for events.

Sydney has tried and tried to promote their Golden Slipper horse race and tried to make it more important than the Melbourne Cup, but it will never happen because the crowds just don't show up like they do here. Our AFL matches are often much more attended than NRL matches (and that's not an AFL v NRL comment because I love both).

For the record, Perth is my favourite Australian state too after visiting there last year. There's no way they could hold the AO either.

:rolls: :rolls: Perth is not a state :silly: :silly:

yomike
01-07-2008, 12:06 PM
You know if AO had been in Sydney no one would ever think of having it move to Melbourne. People are probably gonna say Sydney is perfect and back then I actually thought it was in Sydney.

Anyway it's in Melbourne now and I'm happy with it being there.

Snowwy
01-07-2008, 12:09 PM
So to paraphrase you're from Sydney and are jealous of Melbourne?

LeChuck
01-07-2008, 12:17 PM
I think that Melbourne is a much better city than Sydney, and is a more vibrant and exciting place. I agree that Melbourne is Australia's sporting capital.

scarecrows
01-07-2008, 12:19 PM
The capital of Australia is Canberra, and Ireland and Scotland are two different nations within the United Kingdom. :wavey:

http://www.ateaseweb.com/mb/style_emoticons/default/no.gif

Black Adam
01-07-2008, 01:01 PM
Some people don't even realize that Sydney isn't the capital of Australia.
:haha:

What :retard: thread.

Adler
01-07-2008, 01:04 PM
What a thread!

Black Adam
01-07-2008, 01:09 PM
:haha: Even more dumb Geography students here. :rolls:

The United Kingdom: England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland.

Great Britain: England, Wales and Scotland.

Republic of Ireland is on it's own.

Apparently Perth is a state :haha: :haha: :rolls: :sobbing:
yep, though australia is a very multicultural country as a whole, i think you would get that in any of its cities
:retard:
Tell that to the aborigines. You ever heard of the White Australia policy???

Mr.Gasquet
01-07-2008, 02:59 PM
I'm surprised no-one has mentioned that Melbourne is the world most livable city ;)

~*BGT*~
01-07-2008, 11:16 PM
:haha: Even more dumb Geography students here. :rolls:

The United Kingdom: England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland.

Great Britain: England, Wales and Scotland.

Republic of Ireland is on it's own.



Geography is not stressed in the US; math and science is, even if it's not really helping. It's not even required for graduation in most states, but one year of it was required at my school. I passed it because it was basic memorization. Of course, the majority of that was forgotten after I passed the exam.

We were talking about this on another forum. We are 'taught' geography by memorizing, rivers, seas, mountains, major imports and exports, Gross Domestic Product, national debt... how can you want to really learn about nations when that is drilled into your head? :rollseyes:

I would love to know more about the countries of the world, but it was hard to when you had to teach yourself the geography of entire continents.

Naranoc
01-07-2008, 11:42 PM
:lol: Funny thread. Because some people think Sydney is the capital, we should encourage their delusions and move it there :silly:

~*BGT*~
01-07-2008, 11:51 PM
:lol: Funny thread. Because some people think Sydney is the capital, we should encourage their delusions and move it there :silly:

I think the USO should be held in Baton Rouge so I can drive 10 minutes to the tournament. The French Open can be in New Orleans (French heritage, you see) and Wimbledon can be in the Sahara; at least it doesn't rain there. ;)

scoobs
01-08-2008, 12:02 AM
I think the Australian Open should be held in the middle of the Nullarbor.

Or on top of Uluru.

switz
01-08-2008, 12:18 AM
pff I'm from Sydney and i will always maintain Sydney is the better Sydney but Melbourne is the sporting capital of Australia (for international sports at least) and the Australian Open will not and should not move. Sydney Olympic Park is nowhere near big enough to cater to a slam either. It is the perfect size for a leadup tournament though.

~*BGT*~
01-08-2008, 12:45 AM
I think the Australian Open should be held in the middle of the Nullarbor.

Or on top of Uluru.

I think it should be in outer space. If Federer struggles when Nadal hits spin-crazy forehands that sit high on Federer's backhand, can you imagine how high those backhands will be with zero gravity?

Drunken
01-08-2008, 01:26 AM
Does Coopers Crossing not have a tennis court?

~EMiLiTA~
01-08-2008, 01:55 AM
Ummm...no. Melbourne has much better facilities for tennis and is the sporting capital of Australia. It is actually a much nicer city than Sydney, not as big and aggressive and nicer for the players. It's very rare that tournaments, esp a Slam, has such great facilities about 5 min from the CBD. Melbourne is definitely the place to hold it.

Mr.Gasquet
01-08-2008, 02:55 AM
I think the USO should be held in Baton Rouge so I can drive 10 minutes to the tournament. The French Open can be in New Orleans (French heritage, you see) and Wimbledon can be in the Sahara; at least it doesn't rain there. ;)

They are not laughing at you but they are laughing WITH you :)

~*BGT*~
01-08-2008, 02:58 AM
They are not laughing at you but they are laughing WITH you :)

Finally!! :D