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Lisnard now plays for Monaco

Grinder
01-14-2006, 10:31 PM
Looks like he's officially changed his nationality from French to Monac(an)?

I guess this guarantees him a wildcard for Monte Carlo and he can now be considered the greatest player of all time from Monaco. :lol:

http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Lisnard%2C+Jean%2DRene

Saumon
01-14-2006, 10:35 PM
Looks like he's officially changed his nationality from French to Monac(an) ?

I guess this guarantees him a wildcard for Monte Carlo and he can now be considered the greatest player of all time from Monaco. :lol:

http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Lisnard%2C+Jean%2DRene
:eek:

monégasque ;) (there is no word in english :scratch: )
is it true or just an error from atptennis.com :o (he is still french for his ITF profile :confused: )

ReturnWinner
01-14-2006, 10:44 PM
he will play against the king of monaco juan monaco tomorrow haha

Horatio Caine
01-14-2006, 10:51 PM
Does seem to be true yes. It is no typo - h is listed as Monacan in the ATP rankings and on stevegtennis.com. Not on the Aus Open drawsheet though :scratch:

No hard loss for France though really! He probably wanted to play a (winning) role in a Davis Cup team :tape:

ezekiel
01-14-2006, 11:22 PM
care factor here is zero

cartmancop
01-15-2006, 01:17 AM
what were his reasons? I'm just curious why he would want to move from a very solid tennis nation like France to one that doesn't have much as far as talent goes...Maybe he wants to be the #1 ranked player for a country :lol:

El Legenda
01-15-2006, 02:56 AM
care factor here is zero

well you posted in the thread, so its atleast a 1

bad gambler
01-15-2006, 02:58 AM
lisnard :worship:

his golden run last year in vienna will go down in the annals of tennis greatness

yomike
01-15-2006, 04:52 AM
Albert probably prefered Safin but he'll take anyone I guess.
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SwissMister1
01-15-2006, 08:10 AM
I'd hate to restrict Jean-Rene to one country, when he is a hero to all.

Truc
01-15-2006, 08:21 AM
is it true or just an error from atptennis.com :o (he is still french for his ITF profile :confused: )Yes, it's true, it's on the website of the FFT too.
"Lisnard monégasque
Meilleur Français l'an passé à Melbourne (troisième tour), Jean-René Lisnard ne pourra l'être cette année. Agé de 26 ans, le natif de Cannes a en effet choisi de représenter Monaco. Clin d'oeil, "JR" affronte au premier tour l'Argentin Juan Monaco !" (http://www.fft.fr/australie2006/)

(It just says "JR" was the best French player at the AO last year :rolleyes: when he reached the 3rd round, but he won't be this year since he's decided to compete for Monaco.)

CooCooCachoo
01-15-2006, 08:22 AM
Jean-René :help: :lol:

Saumon
01-15-2006, 12:19 PM
Too bad for us... :sad: :tape:

TheBoiledEgg
01-15-2006, 12:35 PM
maybe he thinks he'll get a guaranteed WC for the Monte Carlo Open every yr now

Mini Me has evil ways of thinking :rolls:

ae wowww
01-15-2006, 12:46 PM
The ATP updated some of his profile but not all :D It lists him as (MON) but in his personal info, he is still called 'the Frenchman' :lol:

C3PO
01-15-2006, 02:59 PM
It's a big loss for us in France :awww:





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enqvistfan
01-15-2006, 03:09 PM
Maybe he thinks that he isn't enough supported by the French Federation. In Bercy for example, I always saw him in the qualies.

ae wowww
01-15-2006, 03:58 PM
Maybe he thinks that he isn't enough supported by the French Federation. In Bercy for example, I always saw him in the qualies.

Probably very true, and fair enough. That's why Greg R switched, partially, to GB for similar reasons.

Federerthebest
01-15-2006, 04:03 PM
I bet Monaco's tennis-fans are jumping up and down with glee :)

TheBoiledEgg
01-16-2006, 06:34 PM
guess who he plays in 1st rd of the Aus Open

Juan Monaco :tape:

njnetswill
01-16-2006, 07:44 PM
:confused: Ok...Good for Monaco I suppose.

Marine
01-16-2006, 07:46 PM
Maybe he thinks that he isn't enough supported by the French Federation. In Bercy for example, I always saw him in the qualies.

Poor guy. If he thinks it will affect the french federation... :lol:

FrogBurger
08-22-2006, 10:22 AM
when did this happen? was he displeased with France generally, or he just had better options there? any ideas?

Action Jackson
08-22-2006, 10:29 AM
Old news.

Action Jackson
08-22-2006, 10:30 AM
Allez Jean-Rene.

At least Balleret is a real Monegasque.

scarecrows
08-22-2006, 11:31 AM
yeah, and he can be the new pope if he wins a slam

Action Jackson
08-22-2006, 11:37 AM
Hahaha, Volandri should try and represent the Vatican City, since he had problems with Italy and wanting more money to play Davis Cup.

Zirconek
08-27-2008, 01:01 PM
It's not just Kazakhstan :p

Thomas Oger and Clement Morel are playing for Monaco (like Lisnard, they are French).

Thomas Oger
http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/players/playerprofiles/?playernumber=O195

Clement Morel
http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/players/playerprofiles/?playernumber=MB29

Burrow
08-27-2008, 02:39 PM
The ATP updated some of his profile but not all :D It lists him as (MON) but in his personal info, he is still called 'the Frenchman' :lol:

You look shit scared in your avatar.

michellej
08-27-2008, 03:12 PM
what were his reasons? I'm just curious why he would want to move from a very solid tennis nation like France to one that doesn't have much as far as talent goes...Maybe he wants to be the #1 ranked player for a country :lol:


I guess you don't pay income tax. Monaco has very low income tax. France has very high income tax. Therefore lots of ATP players list Monte Carlo as home.

Deboogle!.
08-27-2008, 05:36 PM
I guess you don't pay income tax. Monaco has very low income tax. France has very high income tax. Therefore lots of ATP players list Monte Carlo as home.They can live there but not play for Monaco. Plenty of players live in Monte Carlo or list Monaco as their 'home' but they still play for their actual countries. Living somewhere is one thing, switching the country you go out and play for is quite another

Henry Chinaski
08-27-2008, 05:46 PM
don't they have tough requirements for residency though?

it might not be so easy for a low ranked player to relocate as it would for a millionaire top 20 player.

Truc
08-27-2008, 05:58 PM
This tax advantage doesn't apply to French citizens (that's why all the French players live in Switzerland and not in Monte-Carlo).
So Lisnard, Morel & Oger have given up the French citizenship? If they have dual French/Monacan nationality, they won't have any tax advantage, as far as I know. It's just for the Davis Cup then.

Henry Chinaski
08-27-2008, 06:01 PM
And the possible MC wildcard. Thanks for the info.

Truc
08-27-2008, 06:02 PM
Oh yes, of course, I forgot the MC wildcard.

It's not new for Morel, btw, I think he already became Monacan in 2007.
(Australian Open Champion in 2002, he was one of the big French hopes!)

Nathaliia
08-27-2008, 06:10 PM
I may bother to Poznań futures this week to ask Balleret what he actually thinks of this and if there will be pre-quallies for MON players for a WC in MC.

bambelbitz
08-27-2008, 10:13 PM
care factor here is zero

The same here! :scratch: