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Roger: "Nadal is like Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario but as a man"

Alvarillo
01-13-2006, 08:46 PM
other quotes are:
"With him on court i'll never win Roland Garros"
"invincible on clay, i'm afraid of how he wants to win"
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2006/01/13/tenis/1137170897.html

Horatio Caine
01-13-2006, 08:48 PM
Good ploy by Roger...taking the pressure off himself by the French Open :tape:

bokehlicious
01-13-2006, 08:49 PM
Roger certainly hopes Rafa could be injured in one of next 10 FO editions in order to complete his slam collection :shrug: :rolleyes: :o

marifline
01-13-2006, 08:52 PM
I thing they took a very good pic to show who is really Roger Federer! :haha: nice one

mangoes
01-13-2006, 08:54 PM
Good ploy by Roger...taking the pressure off himself by the French Open :tape:


That's the same thing that ran through my mind :lol:

prima donna
01-13-2006, 08:56 PM
What would tennis be like without a moonballer to even out every generation, absolutely mind blowing stuff.

Quite a class act by the Spanish Media, showing the £1 player in the world with his eyes closed and protraying him in a foolish light.

SwissMister1
01-13-2006, 08:58 PM
I just had a weird flashback to Bud Collins screaming out "THE BARCELONA BUMBLEBEEEEEEEEE!" Thanks for that.

Castafiore
01-13-2006, 08:59 PM
Good ploy by Roger...taking the pressure off himself by the French Open :tape:

Maybe he's learned a trick or two from Rafa because that's usually Nadal's way of dealing with that sort of pressure (remember how he dealt with the pressure of being the RG favorite in 2005?) while Roger excudes self-confidence. ;)

Socket
01-13-2006, 09:09 PM
Well, if he dressed in drag, I think Nadal would be a prettier woman than Arantxa. :tape:

mallorn
01-13-2006, 09:16 PM
OK, that picture :tape:
Is Roger trying to play mind games with Rafa? :p

ReturnWinner
01-13-2006, 09:16 PM
pathetic roger :lol:

PamV
01-13-2006, 09:19 PM
other quotes are:
"With him on court i'll never win Roland Garros"
"invincible on clay, i'm afraid of how he wants to win"
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2006/01/13/tenis/1137170897.html

I don't think Roger would ever say that he could NEVER win against Nadal on clay. That's not Roger's style. This was all probably filled with mis-translations.

PamV
01-13-2006, 09:20 PM
What would tennis be like without a moonballer to even out every generation, absolutely mind blowing stuff.

Quite a class act by the Spanish Media, showing the £1 player in the world with his eyes closed and protraying him in a foolish light.

Right. This thing was all writen for the Spanish people. I doubt they even talked to Roger.

Alvarillo
01-13-2006, 10:06 PM
Right. This thing was all writen for the Spanish people. I doubt they even talked to Roger.
:rolleyes: :cuckoo:

mangoes
01-13-2006, 10:30 PM
:rolleyes: :cuckoo:

Well, that is true, it was written for a specific audience where Nadal is the primary star of tennis................hence the nasty picture of Roger and claims of Roger seeing an insurmountable mountain in Rafa on the clay..............so........PamV has quite a solid point :)

JuchuPati
01-13-2006, 10:43 PM
Right. This thing was all writen for the Spanish people. I doubt they even talked to Roger.


umm....how come? are we shit or something? :retard:

RonE
01-13-2006, 11:34 PM
Is there a translation of this article available? When did Roger say those things?

Conita
01-13-2006, 11:49 PM
other quotes are:
"With him on court i'll never win Roland Garros"
"invincible on clay, i'm afraid of how he wants to win"
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2006/01/13/tenis/1137170897.html

sorry to be a smart ass but
the translation is missleading
they actually refer that Roger sees Nadal as invincible,
and "the will nadal has of winning is scary."
since at the end of the 3rd paragraph Rog says: "Aquí ni yo ni nadie es invencible". which means "here not me nor anyone is invincible".

so sorry to say but i seriously doubt Federer is in anyway intimidated by Nadal i mean he respect him n stuff but at the end of the day even thou Nadal won 11 tournaments still couldnt pass him as the world number 1
and Rog has stayed in that position for a long time and probably will stay there for a while.
And he knows that, he probably just said that to show his respect and the spanish media is trying to miss lead it into something it isnt.

nobama
01-14-2006, 12:06 AM
I don't believe for a second he said that he'll never win RG with Nadal around. Even if he thought it, he'd never say in public to the media.

Corswandt
01-14-2006, 12:34 AM
Maybe he's learned a trick or two from Rafa because that's usually Nadal's way of dealing with that sort of pressure (remember how he dealt with the pressure of being the RG favorite in 2005?) while Roger excudes self-confidence. ;)

I think so too.

When I told people at WTAWorld that shaking off the pressure by claiming somebody else is the actual favourite for a title is a traditional mind game technique used by football coaches, they seemed to have never even heard of it. They're more familiar with braggarts like Hingis and Serena Williams.

Bad Religion
01-14-2006, 01:33 AM
"With him(Rafa Nadal) on court i'll never win Roland Garros" :haha: :haha: .

The awful truth , Roger

Federerthebest
01-14-2006, 01:33 AM
It's probably fake, some trash publication trying to talk up their precious third-world dirtballer.

Kip
01-14-2006, 01:38 AM
Good ploy by Roger...taking the pressure off himself by the French Open :tape:
:lol:

Smart man.

Corey Feldman
01-14-2006, 02:47 AM
Spanish press = idiots :lol:
always talking :bs:
probably bored and crying because their spanish golden boy is on the shitpile.

TennisLurker
01-14-2006, 04:41 AM
true

but what a bitch to say such things

World Beater
01-14-2006, 05:23 AM
federer is steffi graf.

sanchez did beat her like once in RG.

so who knows.

Deivid23
01-14-2006, 12:27 PM
This article is an awful fake :retard:

Sam L (WTAW)
01-14-2006, 12:34 PM
Go Roger! That's exactly what I think too. Rafa is an ASV clone. One of those players waiting for the best to be off form so they can take advantage. Of course, he can stand on his own two feet on clay but that's about it. He's a specialist as far as I'm concerned. I'm not buying the hype.

L.J.
01-14-2006, 01:16 PM
Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario :worship:

Nadal wishes he was that good. She is one of the greatest. I can understand what Roger means though, to his Steffi, Nadal is like Arantxa - but Arantxa did very well against Graf at important times including multiple wins at the French and at other clay court events in particular so the comments make sense.

Oh, and Nadal dressed in drag wouldn't be half as beautiful as Arantxa - I know her in person and she is truly beautiful lady. It is an honor for Nadal to be compared with her.

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
01-14-2006, 02:56 PM
pls tell me... it's not Roger in the article of El Mundo Deporte?! :( ... so an AWFUL photo of Roger! :eek: do I need glasses?... :cool: stop smoking?... :smoke: stop drinking? :drink: I know the answer: Roger #1 makes people jealous. ....Oh mais c'est pas joli-joli.

lilfairyprincess
01-14-2006, 03:35 PM
It's probably fake, some trash publication trying to talk up their precious third-world dirtballer.

there was reali no need for a comment like that :rolleyes:

everyone already pretty much agrees that the translation isnt too accurate...and altho ur entitled to ur opinion n all (which is fairly obvious) calling him a third world dirtballer is a bit too far

but well thats just my opinion:shrug:

prima donna
01-14-2006, 03:43 PM
It is most tragic that the Spanish Media has taken it into their hands to fabricate the words of others, I'm afraid that this incident is far from being one that can be resolved by saying "It was translated poorly", they knew precisely what they were doing.

Unless they use babelfish or other online programs (literal form) to translate words, how could you make such awful mistakes ?

This is absolutely classless, quite pathetic and amongst other things, an outcry for help.

Bravo, my friends, Bravo. It has really been outdone by this particularly paper, nothing short of a sleezy gossip column. :worship::worship::worship:

richard gasquet
01-14-2006, 04:24 PM
why federer appears a little bit "bitchy",he called about amélie mauresmo as muscular but I can say that she is a feminine and nice girl not MISS Muscle :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

roger :o

mallorn
01-14-2006, 04:26 PM
There's a thread about it on vr.com and the irreplaceable nou.amic posted a translation of the article. It seems that Rogelio talked to the Swiss media and the Spanish article is only reporting his words :confused: Does anybody from Switzerland know anything about this? What magazine was it? Were Roger's words actually manipulated/mistranslated into Spanish, as many people here think?
The translation: (http://vamosrafael.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=2816&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20)
Roger Federer bows down to Nadal: "He is unbeatable on clay"

THE SWISS, INDISPUTABLE FAVOURITE FOR THE AUSTRALIAN OPEN, AFFIRMS HE WILL "NEVER" WIN ROLAND GARROS WHILE THE MALLORCAN IS COMPETING

MADRID.- Roger Federer admires Rafa Nadal at least as much as the Manacor player esteems the present world number one. In an interview for one of his country's magazines, the Swiss player stated that he considered the Mallorcan "unbeatable" on clay and, because of that, as long as Nadal was on the professional tour he thought it literally impossible to one day win Roland Garros, the last edition of which was won precisely by the 'Manacori' after defeating Federer himself in the semifinal and then beating the Argentine Mariano Puerta.

In the interview, Roger Federer is full of praise for his main rival on the professional circuit, the present world number two. The Swiss considers that Nadal has "such a desire to win that it is frightening" and assured that he has been "dazzled" by his tennis: "He is an incredible tennis player, but not just because of his muscles. He also has talent and power. He is like Arantxa, but in the male version," said Federer referring to the Catalan player who reached the top thanks to her tenacity and capacity to fight on court.

The world number one believes absolutely in the possibilities of his rival, whom he considers "the best" on clay, to such an extent that he is aware that he will "never" win Roland Garros "while Nadal is playing there". This praise from the only player who is at present above him in the APT rankings is bound to raise the morale of the Mallorcan, who is still in the "dry dock" because of his physical problems. After having had to retire from the Shanghai Masters at the last minute, when he had in fact travelled to the Asian city, Nadal was confident that he would reappear in the Australian Open, which begins next Monday in Melbourne, but, as has been announced this week, this option has been completely ruled out.

The young prodigy of world tennis does not want to have another experience like Shanghai, travelling thousands of kilometers to come back empty handed without even having been able to play, so taking the advice to hand of his uncle/trainer, Toni Nadal, his family and his technical advisers, he has preferred to rule out Australia completely and give himself more time to recover from his injury. Prior to that Nadal had to pull out of the Sydney tournament, where Carlos Moya did take part. Moya defeated the Frenchman Sebastian Grosjean in the first round, but injury also got the better of him and he had to pack his bags before playing his match against the North American Blake. His taking part in the Australian Open was also in danger, but finally the Palma player will be there as one of the six Spanish players among the 32 seeds in the draw for the first Grand Slam of the season.

David Ferrer is seeded highest of the "armada española" in Melbourne, he is the 11th seed, while Juan Carlos Ferrero is 15th, Tommy Robredo 16th, Fernando Verdasco 28th and Feliciano Lopez 31st. Moya got the 32nd and last place.

However, Rafa Nadal's absence takes some of the shine off the competition, in which Roger Federer is the clear favourite. The Swiss was cautious about his chances, though, stating that "much depended on the heat, and the form of players like Roddick, Hewitt and Ljubicic".

Federer has opted to be prudent. Although he starts the season well established as the number one player, he does not want to repeat the experience of some of his predecessors who got to number one in the ATP ranking "and then lost their ranking because of injuries or for other reasons".

{In another digital newspaper, he is quoted as saying:"in recent years on the tour, we have seen players reach number one, like Ferrero or Moya, then lose their ranking because of injuries or for other reasons. Here (at the AO) neither I nor anyone else is invincible".}

heya
01-14-2006, 10:03 PM
:rolls: How nice.

disturb3d
01-14-2006, 10:14 PM
"With him on court i'll never win Roland Garros"No shit, genius.

kabuki
01-15-2006, 01:02 AM
All Rafa needs is a ball holder on his butt like Arantxa used to use.

acharlesmobile
01-15-2006, 05:46 AM
didn't roger say something about Nadal's pirate pants? Said something like "they feel good for him, but for me they're uncomfortable" or something like that. My spansih is pretty substandard. I dunno, that amused me.

But yea, dont' call Spain third world. Even if they exagerated a bit. Probably Federer just meant that it would be difficlult to win FO with Nadal there.

mandoura
01-15-2006, 10:18 AM
It's probably fake, some trash publication trying to talk up their precious third-world dirtballer.

I don't want to jump to conclusions or anything but the way you are wording it, one can safely assume you mean it as an insult :rolleyes: .

I come from a third-world country (which I don't mind one bit and wouldn't trade my nationality for any other) and my son plays tennis competitively on clay, so actually he is a third-world dirtballer. Therefore, again the way you are wording it, I find your comment pretty offensive :( .

Carito_90
01-15-2006, 11:05 AM
It's probably fake, some trash publication trying to talk up their precious third-world dirtballer.

Argentina is a third-world country. Wanna count the number of players of said country, please? Okay. Now shut the youknowhat up. :)


Onto the translation of the "El Mundo" article:

"Federer: With Nadal on the courts I'll never win Roland Garros.

Number one tennis player Roger Federer praised the spanish player's, Rafael Nadal, talent who he sees invincible on clay and "with such a desire to win that it is frightening". "He's like the male version of Aranxta," adds the tennis player in an interview released by a Spanish magazine.

The magazine SIE7E publishes these quotes of the swiss player, who shows himself amazed by the Spanish player. "He's amazing, but not for his muscles." Federer trusts a lot in the Spaniard's possibilities, who he considers the best on clay. "I know I will never win RG while he's in the courts," he says. He even dares to joke about the famous pirate pants of Nadal: "They look good on him, but I find them uncomfortable."

The tennis player shows himself cautious while foretelling about his possible win in the next Grand Slam of 2006: "It will depend on the heat, on the way the other players, Hewitt, Roddick or Ljubicic show up". He doesn't want to say much about further events, nor bet on his success since "during the past years we've seen many players reaching the #1 spot, like Ferrero and Moya, and then losing themselves in the rankings due to injuries or different things. Here neither me nor anyone is invincible.

For Roger Federer the praises of different tennis legends like Mc Enroe, Sampras, Becker, who all consider them the best of all by far, are an exageration. "They're completely crazy! How was I going to win against Becker in Wimbledon, or McEnroe in the US Open or Cash in Australia! I think they see me invincible right now because they're already a bit old. (fondones is old, right? sorta?)

During the interview, the tennis player also analized women's tennis and Martina Hingis' comeback. "Women's tennis has changed a lot since she left. The Williams' are not dominating the tour anymore, and the muscles of Amelie Mauresmo can beat you just like Justin Henin-Hardenne's technique. I don't think Martina came back to the courts just to look ridiculous."

In the end, Federer, a great fan of soccer and, above from all, from 'la Roma', worshipped the new player of the Real Madrid, Antonio Cassano: "I think he's great and a very good acquisition for the team."

Ugh, finally. That's all. :) Please, if you're gonna post it somewhere else, some credit wouldn't be bad lol.

hitchhiker
01-15-2006, 12:10 PM
That whole article sounds full of shit.

"They're completely crazy! How was I going to win against Becker in Wimbledon, or McEnroe in the US Open or Cash in Australia!"

i am certain the robot is shaking in his boots at prospect of playing the legend named Pat Cash.

PamV
01-18-2006, 03:58 AM
Well, that is true, it was written for a specific audience where Nadal is the primary star of tennis................hence the nasty picture of Roger and claims of Roger seeing an insurmountable mountain in Rafa on the clay..............so........PamV has quite a solid point :)

Roger doesn't speak in a negative way saying that he could NEVER beat a certain person or NEVER accomplish a certain feat. He might say something is difficult but he wouldn't say it was impossible.

I think either the entire article is a fake, or else they misinterpreted. I don't think Roger speaks Spanish.

prima donna
01-18-2006, 04:06 AM
Roger doesn't speak in a negative way saying that he could NEVER beat a certain person or NEVER accomplish a certain feat. He might say something is difficult but he wouldn't say it was impossible.

I think either the entire article is a fake, or else they misinterpreted. I don't think Roger speaks Spanish.
No, he doesn't speak a word of Spanish.

Swiss-German, French and some Italian also, I have heard - but Spanish :confused:

bokehlicious
01-18-2006, 06:44 AM
No, he doesn't speak a word of Spanish.

Swiss-German, French and some Italian also, I have heard - but Spanish :confused:

He speaks fluently swiss-german, german, english and french. He also speaks some italian and swedish words... But NO spanish...

Castafiore
01-18-2006, 07:47 AM
I think either the entire article is a fake, or else they misinterpreted. I don't think Roger speaks Spanish.
Somebody already posted somewhere in here that this interview was done in the Swiss press (some Swiss magazine) so I doubt very much that Roger did this interview in Spanish. The Spanish press just translated it, so it seems.

Now, maybe things got lost in translation, I'm having difficulty believing that Federer said this about any player out there - who knows - but we won't know for sure until we read the original interview.

So, does any Federer fan have that?

bokehlicious
01-18-2006, 08:13 AM
Somebody already posted somewhere in here that this interview was done in the Swiss press (some Swiss magazine) so I doubt very much that Roger did this interview in Spanish. The Spanish press just translated it, so it seems.

Now, maybe things got lost in translation, I'm having difficulty believing that Federer said this about any player out there - who knows - but we won't know for sure until we read the original interview.

So, does any Federer fan have that?

I read about all swiss press (in 3 languages) which cares a little about tennis and I haven't seen anything like that... :shrug:

Raquel
03-31-2006, 11:09 PM
I can't believe I only just saw this thread now as Arantxa is my all time favourite and she doesn't often get a mention here, never mind Roger mentioning her :hearts: Whether the actual article is totally true or not, I think the comparison is valid, in terms of grit and attitude especially . I mean, he's copying all her patented moves ;)

ASV @ 17 winning the French
Nadal @ 18 during Wimbledon

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8500/asv19ee.jpghttp://img98.imageshack.us/img98/148/nadal2ne.jpg

federated
04-01-2006, 10:08 AM
I just had a weird flashback to Bud Collins screaming out "THE BARCELONA BUMBLEBEEEEEEEEE!" Thanks for that.


:haha: :haha: :haha: :)

Allez
04-01-2006, 10:25 AM
Gosh Rafa! :eek: :eek: :eek:

MTwEeZi
05-28-2012, 08:00 AM
http://estaticos02.cache.el-mundo.net/elmundodeporte/imagenes/2006/01/13/1137170897_0.jpg

Sofonda Cox
05-28-2012, 08:02 AM
Comparing Arantxa to that :facepalm:

Ze_Ani
05-28-2012, 09:08 AM
I'm sure Roger thinks the same now as in 2006. If he will need to beat Nadal on the way in RG, he is not going to win RG anymore.

Mimi
05-28-2012, 09:14 AM
Sanchez only has 4 slams while rafa 10 :shrug:

Dmitry Verdasco
05-28-2012, 09:36 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmbmm9EFje1qhqrew.gif

I was kinda mad, but it's kinda funny.

moon language
05-28-2012, 09:43 AM
nice bump

dazed1
05-28-2012, 10:02 AM
LOL necro.

ServeVolley
05-28-2012, 10:10 AM
"With him on court i'll never win Roland Garros"

Surely that's a mistranslation...? Unless it's some sort of reverse psychology he's trying... :confused:

Time Violation
05-28-2012, 10:32 AM
Surely that's a mistranslation...? Unless it's some sort of reverse psychology he's trying... :confused:

Well he was right wasn't he :)

peribsen
05-28-2012, 09:35 PM
Does this mean that Roger feels like Steffi Graff? Is Rogie trying to tell us something?

Anyway, I hope we never get to see Rafa with one of those ridiculous skirts...

PedroMarquess
05-28-2012, 09:46 PM
Roger is a genius :O

rocketassist
05-28-2012, 09:59 PM
MtwEeZi is trying to be Everko. Bad choice of mimicking.

tektonac
05-28-2012, 09:59 PM
2009 FO title*






* Nadal suffered serious knee injury

rocketassist
05-28-2012, 10:01 PM
2009 FO title*






* Nadal suffered serious knee injury

And your boy lost to Kohlschreiber, fucking up a MASSIVE opportunity to take the title in his absence.

Corey Feldman
05-28-2012, 10:02 PM
2009 FO title*






* Nadal suffered serious knee injury

Nadal 2008 Wimb title*
Nole 2008 AO title*

* Fed had mono

Jamoz
05-28-2012, 10:02 PM
2009 FO title*






* Nadal suffered serious knee injury

Did Federer hit him in that knee??

reery
05-28-2012, 10:05 PM
Agree. Also ASV only won clay titles at the beginning and end of her career. It was during her mid career that she would win off clay. Same as Nadal who is only winning on clay now. Full circle.

tektonac
05-28-2012, 10:06 PM
Nadal 2008 Wimb title*
Nole 2008 AO title**

* Fed had mono
** Gluten full Nole


Fixed it for you.

Luinir
05-28-2012, 11:10 PM
Agree. Also ASV only won clay titles at the beginning and end of her career. It was during her mid career that she would win off clay. Same as Nadal who is only winning on clay now. Full circle.

yes nadal is just winning on clay. he won us open, australian open, wimbledon (twice) and olympics on clay. what a cheater this nadal.

out_grinder
05-29-2012, 12:08 AM
And your boy lost to Kohlschreiber, fucking up a MASSIVE opportunity to take the title in his absence.

Wow, thanks for digging up this little piece of history I wasn't aware of.

It's posts like these that make you fully realize the deleterious effects of gluten on physical wellbeing.

Djokovic got taken out of a slam by PHIL KOHLSCHREIBER?

Wow.

Kohlschreiber beat Djokovic in a slam!??!

Mind=blown.

That gluten is seriously rotten stuff.

shelley76
05-29-2012, 12:54 AM
Wow, thanks for digging up this little piece of history I wasn't aware of.

It's posts like these that make you fully realize the deleterious effects of gluten on physical wellbeing.

Djokovic got taken out of a slam by PHIL KOHLSCHREIBER?

Wow.

Kohlschreiber beat Djokovic in a slam!??!

Mind=blown.

That gluten is seriously rotten stuff.

What? like it's hard? :rolleyes:

He was beaten in 2010 by Melzer :eek: In the quarters :eek:

Not sure which one is worse :o

Nole fan
05-29-2012, 01:02 AM
Are we going to list all the mugs Roger lost to? :rolleyes:

Looner
05-29-2012, 01:06 AM
yes nadal is just winning on clay. he won us open, australian open, wimbledon (twice) and olympics on clay. what a cheater this nadal.

You seem to be living in 2010. That was a bad, bad year for tennis.

Topspindoctor
05-29-2012, 01:09 AM
Nadal 2008 Wimb title*
Nole 2008 AO title*

* Fed had mono

What mono? Lol. Stop with the excuses.

shelley76
05-29-2012, 01:11 AM
Are we going to list all the mugs Roger lost to? :rolleyes:

Well, there was this one time, a week or so ago, in Rome, Semifinals i think :D

Can't remember the dude's name. But as you said, some mug :devil:

Allez
05-29-2012, 07:23 AM
Well, there was this one time, a week or so ago, in Rome, Semifinals i think :D

Can't remember the dude's name. But as you said, some mug :devil:

lol

Benny_Maths
05-29-2012, 09:18 AM
Fact is that Federer has one RG in the bag and no words can change that.:D

garad
05-29-2012, 02:27 PM
2009 FO title*






* Nadal suffered serious knee injury

A serious knee injury that caused him to miss one entire tournament that year...
Ask Owen hargreaves what real troubles with your knees are, in contrast with some media gimmick

garad
05-29-2012, 02:30 PM
Are we going to list all the mugs Roger lost to? :rolleyes:

What mugs did he lose to in slams in the last 9 years? Enlighten me please...

tyruk14
05-29-2012, 07:02 PM
Does this mean that Roger feels like Steffi Graff? Is Rogie trying to tell us something?

Anyway, I hope we never get to see Rafa with one of those ridiculous skirts...

His backhand is worse.