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SI's sportsman of the year: Not Roger (or Tiger or Lance)

nobama
12-05-2005, 07:01 PM
...but Tom Brady of the New England Patriots. I'm bummed Roger didn't grab the honor, but not surprised since he's not an American and SI could give a shit less about Tennis.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/magazine/specials/sportsman/2005/12/02/brady/index.html?cnn=yes

El Legenda
12-05-2005, 07:04 PM
Tom Brady SUCKS :rolls:

prima donna
12-05-2005, 07:06 PM
...but Tom Brady of the New England Patriots. I'm bummed Roger didn't grab the honor, but not surprised since he's not an American and SI could give a shit less about Tennis.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/magazine/specials/sportsman/2005/12/02/brady/index.html?cnn=yes

Tom Brady is perfectly deserving of the award, of course and he does play a team sport, so he is viewed not only as a great player, but superb leader.

He is America's new Golden boy, 3 super bowl rings and attracting compliments from spectators comparing him to The Great Joe Montana.

I'm happy for him.

Pigpen Stinks
12-05-2005, 07:12 PM
That surprises me, because even though they won the Super Bowl, the team hasn't had a very good season this year. I guess it's more of a cumulative award for his efforts over the past 4 or 5 years.

jacobhiggins
12-05-2005, 07:12 PM
He's not perfectly deserving, Lance, and Roger achieved MUCH more but he's a good guy!

alfonsojose
12-05-2005, 07:15 PM
Well, from a sports magazine which needs a swimsuit section to catch the average fat, beer and pizza combo U.S sports fan ... :shrug:

Deboogle!.
12-05-2005, 07:22 PM
Tom Brady :hearts: :hearts:

Wicked Pissah! :rocker:

prima donna
12-05-2005, 07:27 PM
Wicked Pissah! :rocker:

Caught up on your Bostonian dialect, I see. :yeah:

El Legenda
12-05-2005, 07:28 PM
Well, from a sports magazine which needs a swimsuit section to catch the average fat, beer and pizza combo U.S sports fan ... :shrug:

there is no swimsuit section in SI, there is a yearly issue, which is 1 of 50+

sol
12-05-2005, 07:29 PM
That surprises me, because even though they won the Super Bowl, the team hasn't had a very good season this year. I guess it's more of a cumulative award for his efforts over the past 4 or 5 years.
I know :sad: ..

Tom Brady :rocker2:

RogiFan88
12-05-2005, 07:42 PM
It's only SI -- most of the writers don't know or care who Rogi is. I'm not surprised. ;)

SwissMister1
12-05-2005, 07:43 PM
Tom Brady sucks, and so does Peter King, who spends all of his columns writing about his favorite coffee and his daughter's softball team. I'm glad I didn't renew my subscription.

RogiFan88
12-05-2005, 07:44 PM
SI isn't worth a subscription.

R.Federer
12-05-2005, 07:45 PM
I thought lance would get it, because it is his last chance to get , and because he is U.S.
Who is this person brady anyway :shrug:

SwissMister1
12-05-2005, 07:47 PM
SI isn't worth a subscription.

True, I got guilt-tripped into buying one because a co-worker's kid was selling them for school.

Pigpen Stinks
12-05-2005, 08:00 PM
Tom Brady sucks, and so does Peter King, who spends all of his columns writing about his favorite coffee and his daughter's softball team. I'm glad I didn't renew my subscription.

You mean you don't live to hear about the exploits of Mary Beth's, or whatever her name is, softball team? I've learned all of life's lessons reading about that kid and her spunky teammates.

At least I think that's what I think.

nobama
12-05-2005, 08:01 PM
At least Roger got the Laureus sportsman award...I'm sure if he had to choose between SI, ESPY and Laureus that's the one he'd choose. But it does piss me off because these are the same dopey sports writers wondering why Roger isn't more well known in the USA. The same ones that ask him this question every US Open. But yet when they have the chance to help make him more well known, they don't. Yeah SI sucks, but Roger's face on the cover of that mag would help promote his image (and tennis in general) in the USA.

Fumus
12-05-2005, 08:05 PM
Welcome to American ideals.

SwissMister1
12-05-2005, 08:20 PM
You mean you don't live to hear about the exploits of Mary Beth's, or whatever her name is, softball team? I've learned all of life's lessons reading about that kid and her spunky teammates.

At least I think that's what I think.

:lol:

RogiFan88
12-05-2005, 08:29 PM
I thought lance would get it, because it is his last chance to get , and because he is U.S.
Who is this person brady anyway :shrug:

Some American guy who plays sports with a ball... and was on some GQ or sth cover lately, right? :p

tangerine_dream
12-05-2005, 08:57 PM
Tom Brady :hearts: :hearts:

Wicked Pissah! :rocker:

Tom Brady!!! :inlove: :bowdown:

:rocker2: Mint!!! :rocker2:

ps - Brady is the first NFL player to make the Sportsman of the Year since 1990 :eek:

Here's a list of previous winners:

http://tinypic.com/i6jwbb.jpg

lau
12-05-2005, 09:04 PM
:ras: Roger is already one of People´s sexiest men (alive, on earth, ...whatever) Tom Brady deserves to be SI's sportsman of the year ;) Get over it... :rolls:

BTW, you can´t forget this masterpiece of sports journalism :o
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/1997/weekly/catchingup/0714/images/cuo71401.jpg

Deboogle!.
12-05-2005, 09:18 PM
Caught up on your Bostonian dialect, I see. :yeah:I grew up there, thanks :)

tangerine_dream
12-05-2005, 09:21 PM
I grew up there, thanks :)
:lol:

:yeah:

KoOlMaNsEaN
12-05-2005, 10:47 PM
:lol: Tom Brady :lol:

Peoples
12-05-2005, 10:53 PM
Understandable: Lance & Tiger already have these awards and Roger is not so well-known.


Tom Brady!!! :inlove: :bowdown:

:rocker2: Mint!!! :rocker2:

ps - Brady is the first NFL player to make the Sportsman of the Year since 1990 :eek:

Here's a list of previous winners:

http://tinypic.com/i6jwbb.jpg
How did Arthur Ashe get the award in 1992 when he had been retired for so long?

Deboogle!.
12-05-2005, 11:17 PM
How did Arthur Ashe get the award in 1992 when he had been retired for so long?1992 is when he announced he had AIDS...

mangoes
12-05-2005, 11:36 PM
That's cool that Brady got it :D. He deserves it. I was sure Lance would get it...........lolol. I think if Agassi had won the US Open, he would have received the honor this year.

Clara Bow
12-06-2005, 12:14 AM
I am surprised - but not dismayed- that Brady got it this year. Granted, they won the Super Bowl, but as others have said the Pats have not had a great current season. Nonetheless- Brady is an awesome QB.

For football, in terms of the current season- I may have chosen Peyton Manning of the Colts or if they wanted to include college football- Matt Leiter and Reggie Bush of USC or Vince Young of Texas. (This Rose Bowl should kick ass in January- please don't let the BCS championship game be another trouncing of the Big XII by the Pac-10.)

Since they have included coaches, etc. in the past I was kind of hoping that White Sox Manager Ozzie Guillen would get it- but alas, that was not to be.

I think Federer could get it in the future if he either wins the Grand Slam or wins three Grand Slam titles and breaks Johnny Mac's record of wins/losses in a year. That doesn't mean that I think he would not deserve it if he doesn't achieve those things, just unfortunately that it will take a whole heck of a lot to get a tennis player as SI Sportsman of the Year nowadays. (Sigh....)

Deboogle!.
12-06-2005, 12:43 AM
Well from a look at that list, it took tennis players: AIDS, beating a man in an exhibition and starting the Women's tour, and a very cute young american woman who won two slams and a ton of other titles.

Good luck Roger (or any other current tennis player) :lol:

cobalt60
12-06-2005, 12:49 AM
Tom Brady :worship: I am a New Englander. Ayep...

bad gambler
12-06-2005, 12:50 AM
a good QB, but made to look great in a great team

i guess they had to share the award around

Corey Feldman
12-06-2005, 12:51 AM
congrats Tom Brady who ever you are
but NFL/american football to us... id rather have my teeth pulled out than watch that :zzz:

i see the 1973 champ was Jackie Stewart, a Scotsman has won :yeah:

Corey Feldman
12-06-2005, 12:53 AM
I expect Agassi will win it next year when he retires.

Chloe le Bopper
12-06-2005, 02:21 AM
American Football is about as exciting as curling. That said, I have heard of this guy so he must be doing something right.

JeNn
12-06-2005, 02:33 AM
American Football is about as exciting as curling. That said, I have heard of this guy so he must be doing something right.

Same. Plus, he's hot.

Deboogle!.
12-06-2005, 02:38 AM
Same. Plus, he's hot.That's an understatement if I ever saw one :p

alfonsojose
12-06-2005, 02:42 AM
there is no swimsuit section in SI, there is a yearly issue, which is 1 of 50+
you wish. Go to the website ;)

alfonsojose
12-06-2005, 02:43 AM
If u can see bulges in the matches, i'm in. Otherwise, :yawn:

its.like.that
12-06-2005, 04:03 AM
Tom Brady is perfectly deserving of the award, of course and he does play a team sport, so he is viewed not only as a great player, but superb leader.

He is America's new Golden boy, 3 super bowl rings and attracting compliments from spectators comparing him to The Great Joe Montana.

I'm happy for him.

:eek::eek:

how can you say that he is America's new golden boy? :speakles:

-he doesn't wear Dolce & Gabbana or Prada,
-he doesn't paint his toenails,
-he didn't get picked on in high school,
-he doesn't spend 1/5th of his weekly income on hair products,
-he wouldn't hide behind his girlfriend in a fight,
-he drinks beer instead of wine spritzers,
-and he urinates standing up.


Perhaps he needs a makeover. :scratch:

its.like.that
12-06-2005, 04:05 AM
He's not perfectly deserving, Lance, and Roger achieved MUCH more but he's a good guy!

At least Brady wasn't on the juice, ala Lance. :rolleyes:

its.like.that
12-06-2005, 04:10 AM
Understandable: Lance & Tiger already have these awards and Roger is not so well-known.



How did Arthur Ashe get the award in 1992 when he had been retired for so long?

Arthur Ashe was a far superior tennis player than Federer in every facet of the game.

its.like.that
12-06-2005, 04:12 AM
That's cool that Brady got it :D. He deserves it. I was sure Lance would get it...........lolol. I think if Agassi had won the US Open, he would have received the honor this year.

Honour? :lol:

yer, honour.

Chloe le Bopper
12-06-2005, 04:12 AM
:eek::eek:

how can you say that he is America's new golden boy? :speakles:

-he doesn't wear Dolce & Gabbana or Prada,
-he doesn't paint his toenails,
-he didn't get picked on in high school,
-he doesn't spend 1/5th of his weekly income on hair products,
-he wouldn't hide behind his girlfriend in a fight,
-he drinks beer instead of wine spritzers,
-and he urinates standing up.


Perhaps he needs a makeover. :scratch:
Jim... your pillow-biting fantasies of pd are awfully cute and everything, but you really ought to let it go.

its.like.that
12-06-2005, 04:15 AM
I think Federer could get it in the future if he either wins the Grand Slam or wins three Grand Slam titles and breaks Johnny Mac's record of wins/losses in a year. That doesn't mean that I think he would not deserve it if he doesn't achieve those things, just unfortunately that it will take a whole heck of a lot to get a tennis player as SI Sportsman of the Year nowadays. (Sigh....)

lol... he's kinda already done that.

its.like.that
12-06-2005, 04:26 AM
Jim... your pillow-biting fantasies of pd are awfully cute and everything, but you really ought to let it go.

"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men."

Federerthebest
12-06-2005, 04:40 AM
who cares, si is shit. any publication that hires jon wertheim as their principal tennis writer cannot be taken seriously.

Clara Bow
12-06-2005, 04:55 AM
lol... he's kinda already done that.

No he hasn't. Note- I said win three GS titles and break Johnny Mac's win/loss record in the same year. Meaning- he does both in a calender year and then maybe he will get it.

I may be pretty dense- but I do know that Feds won 3 GS titles in 2004. :p

Deboogle!.
12-06-2005, 05:01 AM
And of course, Mac didn't get this honor for his own record, nor did Pete for any of the amazing things he accomplished.

Doris Loeffel
12-06-2005, 12:47 PM
It doesn't surprise me that he didn't win it this year - he wasn't able to win last year (where he had more bigger titles) so why should he win this year?? Maybe maybe when he can hold up his consistency by wining multiple slams he one year might get it.

But I agree guess he's happy with the Laureus he won for his 2004 performance.

landoud
12-06-2005, 01:01 PM
big surprise

nobama
12-06-2005, 02:07 PM
And of course, Mac didn't get this honor for his own record, nor did Pete for any of the amazing things he accomplished.No tennis player has been represented well by SI. But just because JMac or Sampras or Agassi didn't receive this honor doesn't mean Federer or anyone else isn't deserving. Just proves that SI is crap.

nobama
12-06-2005, 02:23 PM
I think Federer could get it in the future if he either wins the Grand Slam or wins three Grand Slam titles and breaks Johnny Mac's record of wins/losses in a year. That doesn't mean that I think he would not deserve it if he doesn't achieve those things, just unfortunately that it will take a whole heck of a lot to get a tennis player as SI Sportsman of the Year nowadays. (Sigh....)The fact they gave it to Brady considering New England is having an average year in a weak conference tells me this was sewn up a long time ago and even if Roger had tied or broken JMac's record or won another GS it would not have mattered. But how often in the last 10-20 years has an individual (not part of a team sport) won this award? Not very often. Annika Sorenstam has never won this award and she's probably the greatest female golfer of all time. :retard:

liptea
12-06-2005, 02:27 PM
2006 Sportsman of the Year: Carlos Moya.

Angle Queen
12-06-2005, 02:57 PM
Brady :rolleyes:

Last year...maybe...but not for 2005.

I really thought Lance would get it again...with Roger having the outside shot at it.

Oh well....

sierra91
12-06-2005, 03:12 PM
Well from a look at that list, it took tennis players: AIDS, beating a man in an exhibition and starting the Women's tour, and a very cute young american woman who won two slams and a ton of other titles.

Good luck Roger (or any other current tennis player) :lol:

:rolls: :rolls:

tangerine_dream
12-06-2005, 06:47 PM
who cares, si is shit. any publication that hires jon wertheim as their principal tennis writer cannot be taken seriously.
Tell me: which national sports publication do you report for?

btw, it was Jon Wertheim who championed Federer as SI's Sportsman of the Year. But that's all shit to you, right?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/magazine/specials/sportsman/2005/11/07/roger.federer/index.html

angiel
12-07-2005, 12:13 AM
[QUOTE=Angle Queen]Brady :rolleyes:

Last year...maybe...but not for 2005.

I really thought Lance would get it again...with Roger having the outside shot at it.

Oh well....[/QUOTE


Why not for this year? you all dont understand, the Super Bowl Final was played this year, nuckle heads, and why the hell should he not have won it and Roger should, will you all get real. :devil: :mad: :sad:

angiel
12-07-2005, 12:15 AM
Tell me: which national sports publication do you report for?

btw, it was Jon Wertheim who championed Federer as SI's Sportsman of the Year. But that's all shit to you, right?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/magazine/specials/sportsman/2005/11/07/roger.federer/index.html


Only the ones you give Federer anything it seem, to this guy, fool. :wavey: :devil:

its.like.that
12-07-2005, 05:57 AM
Tell me: which national sports publication do you report for?

btw, it was Jon Wertheim who championed Federer as SI's Sportsman of the Year. But that's all shit to you, right?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/magazine/specials/sportsman/2005/11/07/roger.federer/index.html

:worship::worship::worship:

Sweetheart, you have a better chance of being accepted into MENSA, than Worthless Wertheim does of becoming a respectable journalist.

Rosa Luxembourg
12-07-2005, 06:38 AM
Tom :worship:

Federerthebest
12-07-2005, 07:31 AM
Tell me: which national sports publication do you report for?

btw, it was Jon Wertheim who championed Federer as SI's Sportsman of the Year. But that's all shit to you, right?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...erer/index.html

what exactly is your point? are you claiming jon wertheim is a good journalist? :retard:

its.like.that
12-07-2005, 07:59 AM
what exactly is your point? are you claiming jon wertheim is a good journalist? :retard:

lol

nice sig buddy.

yomike
12-07-2005, 10:38 AM
Who's Tom Brady?

Angle Queen
12-07-2005, 02:03 PM
Brady :rolleyes:

Last year...maybe...but not for 2005.

I really thought Lance would get it again...with Roger having the outside shot at it.

Oh well....


Why not for this year? you all dont understand, the Super Bowl Final was played this year, nuckle heads, and why the hell should he not have won it and Roger should, will you all get real. :devil: :mad: :sad:Oh I understand VERY well. The New England Patriots, under Tom Brady, ALSO won the Super Bowl in January of 2004...AND...went on to have a 17-2 record in the Fall/Winter of 2004...which, yes, culminated in yet another Super Bowl in January of 2005.

Brady's BEST work was in the calendar year of 2004. This year, they're struggling, and that's putting it politely. He still may have a top QB rating for this season, but he's nowhere near LAST year's results.

Lance kicked butt en France for 21 grueling days (yes, for a seventh straight time) and Roger went 81-4 in 2005. To me, those are more deserving performances.

nobama
12-07-2005, 02:23 PM
Oh I understand VERY well. The New England Patriots, under Tom Brady, ALSO won the Super Bowl in January of 2004...AND...went on to have a 17-2 record in the Fall/Winter of 2004...which, yes, culminated in yet another Super Bowl in January of 2005.

Brady's BEST work was in the calendar year of 2004. This year, they're struggling, and that's putting it politely. He still may have a top QB rating for this season, but he's nowhere near LAST year's results.

Lance kicked butt en France for 21 grueling days (yes, for a seventh straight time) and Roger went 81-4 in 2005. To me, those are more deserving performances.Some sports columnist in the LA times was discussing all the NFL teams stats right now and mentioned Brady's player of the year award. Right after it they joked that Roger has cancelled his subscription ti SI. :lol: If you look at the stats on the NFL's website right now Brady does not have the top QB rating....I think he's #7. So if this award is truly for sportsperson of THIS year I think others are more deserving. And if they didn't want to give it to a tennis player from Switzerland, then how about Armstrong, or Tiger Woods (won 2 slams this year) or Annika Sorenstam (won 10 tournaments this year)?

Angle Queen
12-07-2005, 02:30 PM
Thanks, Mirka. I knew Tom wasn't the top QB...but that he was still up there. I was just too lazy to look it up. But for what it's worth, I don't put much credence in some of those statistical ratings/analyses. What it boils down to is...who would I want on my team if it's at the two-minute warning and we're down a TD. If I couldn't coax Elway out of retirement, I'd have to think long and hard about whether to go with PManning or Brady. All I know is...I want Vinatieri kicking that PAT (or field goal). :lol:

Deboogle!.
12-07-2005, 03:26 PM
I want Vinatieri kicking that PAT (or field goal). :lol::banana:


To whoever asked, this is Tom Brady (note that there is a cover story article on Roger in the magazine.)

http://i.cnn.net/si/si_online/covers/images/2005/1212_large.jpg

tangerine_dream
12-07-2005, 05:51 PM
what exactly is your point? are you claiming jon wertheim is a good journalist? :retard:
My point is that you claim that "SI sucks" but if Federer had won the Sportsman of the Year, thanks in part to Werthiem's input, then SI wouldn't suck anymore would it?

I'm not surprised to see that you can't read between the lines. But then, you actually think Spain is a "third world" so yeah. Whatever.

AgassiDomination
12-07-2005, 06:40 PM
I have no idea who that guy is... Oh well, good for him!

alfonsojose
12-07-2005, 06:53 PM
:ras: Roger is already one of People´s sexiest men (alive, on earth, ...whatever) Tom Brady deserves to be SI's sportsman of the year ;) Get over it... :rolls:

BTW, you can´t forget this masterpiece of sports journalism :o
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/1997/weekly/catchingup/0714/images/cuo71401.jpg
:eek: :rolleyes: how could they dare?

nobama
12-07-2005, 07:11 PM
:banana:

To whoever asked, this is Tom Brady (note that there is a cover story article on Roger in the magazine.)

Wow they actually have Roger's name on the cover. :eek: I almost fell out of my chair. Maybe Tony Godsick will actually get his face on the cover some day. :)

RogiFan88
12-07-2005, 08:29 PM
Some sports columnist in the LA times was discussing all the NFL teams stats right now and mentioned Brady's player of the year award. Right after it they joked that Roger has cancelled his subscription ti SI. :lol: If you look at the stats on the NFL's website right now Brady does not have the top QB rating....I think he's #7. So if this award is truly for sportsperson of THIS year I think others are more deserving. And if they didn't want to give it to a tennis player from Switzerland, then how about Armstrong, or Tiger Woods (won 2 slams this year) or Annika Sorenstam (won 10 tournaments this year)?


Nah, Rogi couldn't have cancelled his subscription to SI -- he can't miss the Swimsuit edition! :p

Clara Bow
12-07-2005, 10:55 PM
Wow they actually have Roger's name on the cover. I almost fell out of my chair. Maybe Tony Godsick will actually get his face on the cover some day.

They had the tiny 1/2 inch picture of he and Andre (plus their names) on the cover after the USO and now this! Progress is progress- sometimes ya gotta grasp at the crumbs.

Here is the article:

SPORTSMAN OF THE YEAR/MOMENTS TO REMEMBER/ROGER FEDERER;


HEADLINE: Swing Shift;
In trouble in the U.S. Open final against Andre Agassi, the Swiss wizard reached deep and recovered his magic touch

BYLINE: S.L. PRICE

BODY:


ROGER FEDERER stumbled. It was nearing 6:15 p.m., and he'd just dumped another routine backhand into the net. A shocked tennis world, a hopeful New York City crowd and a desperate Andre Agassi found themselves witnessing the sport's rarest sight: Federer, the epitome of grace under pressure, buckling as his game unraveled. So when that shot flopped into the net, giving Agassi a 4-2 third-set lead in a 2005 U.S. Open final deadlocked at a set apiece, and Federer finished the stroke with the slightest of trips, everyone at Arthur Ashe Stadium that September evening suddenly wondered: Is he actually going down?

Now here came Agassi. The 35-year-old son of a boxer pounded serves to his opponent's backhand like a middleweight working a cut and seized a 30-0 lead. The championship, a ninth Grand Slam singles title, seemed in Agassi's reach. Federer's serve had lost its customary bite, his ground strokes were a mess. He kept hitting short backhand slices for Agassi to feast on. "I had his back against the wall," Agassi would say.

"I started to feel it slipping," Federer says. "I definitely sensed, It's going his way here."

By any standard Federer had had a superb year going into the Open: the 2005 Wimbledon title, a 9-0 record in tournament finals (22-0 going back to July '03), just three losses in 67 matches. But two of those defeats had come at Grand Slam events--the Australian and French opens--and a loss in New York would have redefined the game's No. 1 player as vulnerable on the big stage. Federer needed this win. His ability to change tactics in mid-match has always been remarkable, but now he had to dig out quality shots on the run, against the toughest of opponents, with thousands screaming against him. And he did.

Yet, Federer admits, he almost can't take credit for the point that turned his year from superb to historic. At 4-2, 30-0 Agassi served to Federer's backhand again. Three strokes into the rally, Federer knew he had to do something special with his weakest weapon. And perhaps the most telling thing about him is that, at that crucial instant, he took a huge risk: He rolled a low-percentage inside-out backhand up the line. The shot wasn't clean. He shanked it, in fact. The ball veered, dipped and somehow landed in the corner. Federer hardly celebrated. He looked stunned and relieved, like someone emerging unscathed from a car crash.

"I got a little lucky," he says. "Let's say that shot goes out and it's 40-love. I'm not going to come back from there. It's 5-2 and a different match. But from 30-15 on I turned it around. It's all about staying in there and giving yourself a chance. The chance will come."

A lot of players say that, but Federer knows it. From 30-15 he broke Agassi with ease and then began grooving his serve for the first time all fortnight. Somehow, one bad shot had given tennis's greatest shotmaker his game back. But it took a bit longer for Federer to assume complete control. Four times he had Agassi, serving at 5-5, at break point, and four times Agassi escaped. "Federer's choking!" John McEnroe announced, but Agassi knew his chance was slipping away. Holding on for his tennis life, he ended the game by blasting a 118-mph serve down the T, then clenched his fist and shouted, "Yes!" The stadium shook. Here was the upset of the decade, the match of Agassi's career, the chance to win before his countrymen and retire in the best way possible, and....

Federer crushed him. This time luck had nothing to do with it. His serve now impregnable, he held easily at 5-6 to force a tiebreak. His backhand on form, he punished Agassi with it in the breaker, not a slice to be seen, finishing the 7-1 rout by rolling one last killer backhand and bellowing at the feel of it. Then he took the fourth set 6-1, becoming the first man in 68 years to win both Wimbledon and the U.S. Open in consecutive years. Afterward Agassi couldn't invent enough ways to say Federer was the best player he'd ever faced. "The standard and the options and the talent and the execution that he shows in all the biggest matches--it's crazy," Agassi said.

Crazy? No. For the last year or so Federer has been using a phrase that in his Swiss-accented English sounds odd. "Oh, I played zik tennis there," he'll say, and to virgin ears it takes awhile for the nickel to drop: Sick, he said. I played sick tennis. He never really defined it, not in words anyway, until that Sunday in Flushing Meadow. You had to see it to believe it. Zik tennis, indeed.

NOTES: See also introduction on page 93 of same issue.

GRAPHIC: PHOTO: CYNTHIA LUM/WIREIMAGE.COM SEPTEMBER 11, 2005 ; PHOTO: DAVE SAFFRAN/WIREIMAGE.COM STROKE OF GENIUS Federer's forehand (opposite) kept him in the match until his backhand and serve returned to doom Agassi.

angiel
12-07-2005, 11:02 PM
Oh I understand VERY well. The New England Patriots, under Tom Brady, ALSO won the Super Bowl in January of 2004...AND...went on to have a 17-2 record in the Fall/Winter of 2004...which, yes, culminated in yet another Super Bowl in January of 2005.

Brady's BEST work was in the calendar year of 2004. This year, they're struggling, and that's putting it politely. He still may have a top QB rating for this season, but he's nowhere near LAST year's results.

Lance kicked butt en France for 21 grueling days (yes, for a seventh straight time) and Roger went 81-4 in 2005. To me, those are more deserving performances.


No, his best work is winning the super bowl in Feb, 2005, SI does not count the NFl playing right now, that why he won. :wavey:

Bilbo
12-07-2005, 11:28 PM
Federer wasn't as good as in 2004. He wasn't dominating the tour like he did in 2004. No wonder he doesn't get any awards this year.

Corey Feldman
12-07-2005, 11:58 PM
He won the leaurus or whatever its called, 2 GS's and Year End No1, so an average year for roger.
that was more important than this one, the S.I Yank Sportsman of the year award

Federerthebest
12-08-2005, 01:03 AM
My point is that you claim that "SI sucks" but if Federer had won the Sportsman of the Year, thanks in part to Werthiem's input, then SI wouldn't suck anymore would it?

I'm not surprised to see that you can't read between the lines. But then, you actually think Spain is a "third world" so yeah. Whatever.

i see you are possessed of the scintillating intellect that so characterises roddick fans :retard:.

if federer had won si sportsman of the year, why do you think i would have claimed it to be a fine magazine? it doesn't change the fact that wertheim writes incredibly-poorly researched articles.

let's see what your points actually were:

1) i cannot criticize wertheim because i myself do not write for a major publication. whoa, better not criticize the film you saw the other day, or the book you read, seeing as you are not a director, nor a writer. :retard: another brilliant argument by tangerine_dream
2) the fact that wertheim actually championed federer for sportsman of the year negates the fact that he is a crap writer. :confused:

this leads me to believe that you are, in fact, quite stupid - but this seems to be a trusim anyway, 'so yeah, whatever'. :wavey:

tangerine_dream
12-08-2005, 02:31 AM
i see you are possessed of the scintillating intellect that so characterises roddick fans :retard:
Ah, the old If-you-can't-attack-the-argument-then-attack-the-whole-group insult. I'll bet you learned that skill back in first grade, too. So clever!

if federer had won si sportsman of the year, why do you think i would have claimed it to be a fine magazine?
Because you're the best Fedtard. :hearts:

1) i cannot criticize wertheim because i myself do not write for a major publication.

who cares, si is shit. any publication that hires jon wertheim as their principal tennis writer cannot be taken seriously.
I don't see this post as constructive criticism, but more like a typical knee-jerk reaction by one very bitter Federer fanboy who is upset that his King is not getting proper recognition in the American press.

2) the fact that wertheim actually championed federer for sportsman of the year negates the fact that he is a crap writer. :confused:
Nobody ever claimed him to be a great writer but he's far from the worst. And he can also write in complete sentences and uses proper punctuation, which puts him light years ahead of you and therefore has more credibility than you, and his opinions about tennis carries more weight than yours ever will.

this leads me to believe that you are, in fact, quite stupid - but this seems to be a trusim anyway, 'so yeah, whatever'. :wavey:
And you still can't defend your ignorant "Spain is a third-world country" comment. Stupid is as stupid does. :lol:

Federerthebest
12-08-2005, 03:09 AM
Ah, the old If-you-can't-attack-the-argument-then-attack-the-whole-group insult. I'll bet you learned that skill back in first grade, too.

is it my fault that all roddick fans are either brainless teenyboppers or insipid overweight american women? some people are deserving of ridicule. :cool:

I don't see this post as constructive criticism

yes, i surely needed to write a treatise on the weaknesses of sports illustrated and jon wertheim in order to get my point across. :rolleyes: even if federer had been chosen as sportsman of the year by that publication, i would still be of the opinion that it is a poor excuse for a journalistic periodical. but of course, your snail-paced mind cannot digest this.

And he can also write in complete sentences and uses proper punctuation,

yes, i laud your ability to criticise the english skills of someone for whom english is their second language. but, unlike you, i possess more than a sliver of intelligence. better to be able to form a congent thought than a gramatically-congent sentence :)

his opinions about tennis carries more weight than yours ever will.

carry more weight, oh master of english correctness :retard:

And you still can't defend your ignorant "Spain is a third-world country" comment.

do you want me to defend it? are you trying vainly to bait me into further insulting spain and incurring the anger of the spaniards on this board? :wavey:

nobama
12-08-2005, 03:12 AM
Federer wasn't as good as in 2004. He wasn't dominating the tour like he did in 2004. No wonder he doesn't get any awards this year.He won just as many tournaments as in 2004 and had 2 fewer losses. Yes, you could argue 2004 was a better year because he won 3 GS and TMC, but I don't think you can say he was less dominant this year.

Angle Queen
12-08-2005, 01:45 PM
No, his best work is winning the super bowl in Feb, 2005, SI does not count the NFl playing right now, that why he won. :wavey:Have you even read the article? The vast majority of it speaks of his past accomplishments, his relationship with his coach and teammates...and even alludes to the fact that his current season is not as successful as his prior one. There is no way Brady and the Patriots' 2005 Super Bowl victory was as impressive as the last minute/second thriller in 2004 against the Panthers. He was just up against the curing of the Curse of the Bambino in 2004. Had the Sox not won the Series, I have no doubt Brady would have won the award, and deservedly so, last year.

Perhaps, then, given the slant of the article, SI is trying to focus on the qualities of being a sportsman rather than focusing solely on an athlete's performance. To that end, however, both my previous mentions of Armstrong and Federer are also well-regarded for their sportsmanlike qualities and charitable efforts.

adee-gee
12-08-2005, 03:43 PM
Well, I know I said I didn't think Roger deserved it. But to give it to someone that plays the most sorry excuse for a sport is :retard:

Tiger should've rinsed the field :rolleyes:

Deboogle!.
12-08-2005, 03:46 PM
Have you even read the article? The vast majority of it speaks of his past accomplishments, his relationship with his coach and teammates...and even alludes to the fact that his current season is not as successful as his prior one. There is no way Brady and the Patriots' 2005 Super Bowl victory was as impressive as the last minute/second thriller in 2004 against the Panthers. He was just up against the curing of the Curse of the Bambino in 2004. Had the Sox not won the Series, I have no doubt Brady would have won the award, and deservedly so, last year.

Perhaps, then, given the slant of the article, SI is trying to focus on the qualities of being a sportsman rather than focusing solely on an athlete's performance. To that end, however, both my previous mentions of Armstrong and Federer are also well-regarded for their sportsmanlike qualities and charitable efforts.It's ok Marlene, you don't have to keep trying to explain it ;) They just wanted to give to another Bostonian team/athlete this year ;) :angel:

joeb_uk
12-08-2005, 03:54 PM
Sportsman of the year is the award no wants to win! Every awards ceremony I have been to, when sportsman of the year award is being announced everyone sits on their chair crapping their pants, ready to run home if their name is called out :help:

adee-gee
12-08-2005, 04:12 PM
Sportsman of the year is the award no wants to win! Every awards ceremony I have been to, when sportsman of the year award is being announced everyone sits on their chair crapping their pants, ready to run home if their name is called out :help:
I'll have it if no-one else wants it :p

nobama
12-08-2005, 06:47 PM
Perhaps, then, given the slant of the article, SI is trying to focus on the qualities of being a sportsman rather than focusing solely on an athlete's performance. To that end, however, both my previous mentions of Armstrong and Federer are also well-regarded for their sportsmanlike qualities and charitable efforts.Plain and simple he was a sorry excuse for the award THIS YEAR. I can kind of see why Tiger didn't get it as he's won it twice before (and I think Armstrong got it once before too). IMO, there's only one reason Roger didn't win it this year or last (and the likes of McEnroe, Lendl, Sampras never won it either) is they don't sell magazines. Instead of choosing one athlete, I don't know why they don't just profile the best athletes of the year (narrow it to 10 or whatever) and then pick one to put on the cover that they think will sell the most magazines. Because I think it's quite difficult to single out one person across all the different types of sports as THE best athlete.

its.like.that
12-18-2005, 05:14 AM
Well, I know I said I didn't think Roger deserved it. But to give it to someone that plays the most sorry excuse for a sport is :retard:

Tiger should've rinsed the field :rolleyes:

at least real men play american football, unlike golf.

;)

Neely
12-18-2005, 12:13 PM
I don't follow American Football very closely, can't really say if he deserves the award :shrug: ;)

Icecold
12-18-2005, 12:16 PM
Federer deserved that award a lot more than Brady...
Brady is not even the best Football player in the NFL and not even the best player at his position. The Patriots winning SB is a team achievement...

What is more impressive. Being 80+/4 on a season with 2 GS a bunch a Masters Series... Or being a champion with 50 other players? ( its not like Brady did it all by himself )

Its sad that being American is a key factor for that kind of award.

its.like.that
12-18-2005, 12:54 PM
Federer deserved that award a lot more than Brady...
Brady is not even the best Football player in the NFL and not even the best player at his position. The Patriots winning SB is a team achievement...

What is more impressive. Being 80+/4 on a season with 2 GS a bunch a Masters Series... Or being a champion with 50 other players? ( its not like Brady did it all by himself )

Its sad that being American is a key factor for that kind of award.

Well considering that the award is for American sportsperson of the year, are you really that surprised?

Icecold
12-18-2005, 01:16 PM
Am I surprised an American won? No
Am I suprised that Brady won? Yes...
Woods, Duncan, for example would have deserved it more than Brady. Even Manning would have been a better choice:throwing for 49 TD in a season is a greater single achievement than winning a SB thanks to your defense.

uNIVERSE mAN
12-19-2005, 02:37 PM
Who the fuck is tim brady?

bokehlicious
12-19-2005, 02:41 PM
:scratch: Should be an American sportler I guess :shrug:

Clara Bow
12-19-2005, 06:58 PM
One funny thing is that in the past couple of weeks the Patriots have really gotten their act together since they no longer have injury problems. They look scary good again and I would not be surprised if they won yet another Super Bowl in February. So perhaps some of my quibbles a couple of weeks ago were a little unwarrented. So no SI cover curse for Brady it seems. As a number of posters have stated- the Pats do have an incredible defense. But that can sometimes help cloud the fact that Brady does have great skill. As Peter King wrote today in regards to the Pats’ 28-0 win over Tampa Bay ((yes- I know that he salivates over Brady, but I still think that what King wrote is pretty true)):

Brady gets taken for granted, almost, and it's a tribute to his consistent greatness that a 65-percent, 258-yard, three-touchdown, no-pick performance against the NFL's No. 2 defense was barely discussed after the game.


For those not familiar with Brady- he is widely regarded as being a class act in a class organization. I’m sure that if Federer is ever named Sportsman of the Year – his classiness will be mentioned as well.

So I take back some of my earlier wonderings about why Brady was named Sportsman of the Year. Hindsight is 20-20 after all. :lol:

For any of you who have HBO- when they were talking about the Sportsman of the Year on the Bob Costas show they talked about Agassi at the USO and highlighted Federer. (They said something along the lines in regards to Federer about how there is no dispute that he is the best now and the debate begins as to whether he is the best ever.)

El Legenda
12-23-2005, 10:16 PM
bump for Shutgun :retard:

shotgun
12-23-2005, 10:24 PM
bump for Shutgun :retard:

:lol:

nobama
12-24-2005, 12:57 AM
bump for Shutgun :retard:Sorry, but I think there's a difference between posting this and say, Croatian sportman of the year or Swiss sportsman of the year (which I didn't post here). This isn't the best athlete of a particular country (although SI does favor Americans), but rather athlete of the year period. And even if some can't stand Federer I'd like to think they'd root for a tennis player to win an award like this as it gives attention to the sport itself. Like Roger said when he won the Laureus award - he was happy that the sport of tennis was recognized.