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richard gasquet
04-08-2006, 06:25 PM
and they still alive :D

what a match!!micka and arnaud were just so :eek: they fought like warriors especially arnaud who played 3 hours yesterday and 3 hours again today :bowdown: :bowdown:

at the end of the match, micka came to the french box to richard and seemed to motivate him for tomorrow,perhaps telling him to kick davydenko ass tomorrow.He held him strongly after speaking in his ear.You know like "its your turn boy" :D

guy forget said that he still believe in an égalisation" to 2-2, there's some hope for sure.Now richard has to fight with his heart to make his team to 2-2 so ALLEZ Richard!!!!!!!!COURAGE!

delsa
04-08-2006, 06:54 PM
Marat served 28 aces on his first serve and 4 on his second serve...

:worship:

Like Forget said : "Nothing [more] to say."

delsa
04-08-2006, 06:56 PM
Jean-Phillipe :wavey:

Jean-Philippe :wavey:

delsa
04-08-2006, 06:57 PM
Just do your best tomorrow Richard...

Show him that you want the match more, that you're hungrier at least... (And that you're not "an ordinary player whithout any special weapon"...).

Daniela_CABJ
04-08-2006, 09:49 PM
It's going to be sooo hard now, 2-1, they have to win both matches tomorrow
:scared:


Hi Daniela ! :)
:D Hello :wavey:

Sweet4Richard
04-09-2006, 02:12 AM
Sounded like an amazing doubles match. Glad at least Richard is going to have a chance to play again. :woohoo:

Allez Richard tomorrow :bounce: Good Luck and fight! *fingers crossed*

Puschkin
04-09-2006, 03:46 PM
:sad: but not quitting.

silverwhite
04-09-2006, 04:03 PM
This must be devastating for him. 2 five-set losses in a row... :sad:

Puschkin
04-09-2006, 04:07 PM
This must be devastating for him. 2 five-set losses in a row... :sad:

:sad: Yeah, I am afraid so. It was the most cruel wake-up call, but I just hope it was one. Moreover, we are no fair weather fans. So, let's start anew on clay.

silverwhite
04-09-2006, 04:10 PM
Tough times coming up. It'll be really difficult for him to rebound from these two losses. The lack of confidence, plus the pressure of defending that ton of points... :sad:

silverwhite
04-09-2006, 04:13 PM
Another worrying thing is these two matches have brought up some weaknesses of his - his returning against big servers, his stamina and his mental toughness...

zimzim
04-09-2006, 04:18 PM
Tough times coming up. It'll be really difficult for him to rebound from these two losses. The lack of confidence, plus the pressure of defending that ton of points... :sad:This is the time Richard needs a lot of support and encouragement...I hope the he can take the positives from these matches, and forge ahead :sad:

silverwhite
04-09-2006, 04:22 PM
This is the time Richard needs a lot of support and encouragement...I hope the he can take the positives from these matches, and forge ahead :sad:

Yes. He needs to be strong. This will be a test of character... :sad:


I know we shouldn't second guess but I wonder if things would have been different on a different surface...

zimzim
04-09-2006, 04:31 PM
Another worrying thing is these two matches have brought up some weaknesses of his - his returning against big servers, his stamina and his mental toughness...I don't think he lacked mental toughness in these matches...I'll say he surprised me a bit cos he came up with the goods when his back was aginst the wall. The part of his game that worried me the most was his return of serve. I don't know why he wasn't agressive on second serve returns...he just kept chipping the balls back instead of the aggressive returns, and to be quite honest his return of serve was very good last year...it was almost one of his weapons, I don't know if his trying a change of techinque but it wasn't working out for him, and I kept hoping he'll stop the chip returns. Also I noticed he made a lot of errors on his backhand side, and this made him too cautious, and he was hitting his backhhand too short cos he was afraid of errors, and this was a major hadicap as his backhand is his main weapon...this made him less agressive.

silverwhite
04-09-2006, 04:33 PM
The three best matches he has played this year have all been DC matches. Some said that the Haas match was the best DC match they watched in a while and some said that the Safin match was the best match of 2006 so far.

It's obvious how much he loves DC and playing for his country. He was in horrible form coming into both ties but he fought really hard in all 3 matches. Sometimes, matches like these can affect a player's career (I have to bring up Paul-Henri ":silly:" Mathieu and the DC 2002 final :o ). His reaction to these two losses will be important. I just hope they don't break him. :sad:

zimzim
04-09-2006, 04:36 PM
The three best matches he has played this year have all been DC matches. Some said that the Haas match was the best DC match they watched in a while and some said that the Safin match was the best match of 2006 so far.

It's obvious how much he loves DC and playing for his country. He was in horrible form coming into both ties but he fought really hard in all 3 matches. Sometimes, matches like these can affect a player's career (I have to bring up Paul-Henri ":silly:" Mathieu and the DC 2002 final :o ). His reaction to these two losses will be important. I just hope they don't break him. :sad:You're right cos the Davis Cup can make or break a player...let's hope it doesn't break him.

silverwhite
04-09-2006, 04:40 PM
I don't think he lacked mental toughness in these matches...I'll say he surprised me a bit cos he came up with the goods when his back was aginst the wall. The part of his game that worried me the most was his return of serve. I don't know why he wasn't agressive on second serve returns...he just kept chipping the balls back instead of the aggressive returns, and to be quite honest his return of serve was very good last year...it was almost one of his weapons, I don't know if his trying a change of techinque but it wasn't working out for him, and I kept hoping he'll stop the chip returns. Also I noticed he made a lot of errors on his backhand side, and this made him too cautious, and he was hitting his backhhand too short cos he was afraid of errors, and this was a major hadicap as his backhand is his main weapon...this made him less agressive.

In the Safin match, he gave up once he got broken in the fifth. He sort of admitted later that Marat's serving was too good and he knew that once he got broken, it was the end. In this match, he had BP on Tursunov's serve but couldn't convert. He was the first to blink in the end too. :(

Yeah. His serve has more or less returned after being horrible for most of the year but his return has seen AWOL since the beginning of the year. He needs to find his rhythm on it again.

As I noted after the Haas match, it was his FH that helped him immensely in that match. His BH has yet to reach last year's standard so far this year...

linus
04-09-2006, 04:53 PM
of course no one would like to see that Richard lost his confident from these two cruel matches :eek: i didnt think it that seriously. i think Richard also knows it is not him who would not fight up. to tell the truth, the Russian guys own the big weapons even though they would make some big mistakes from time to time while they are really tough. esp they have the same passions for DC as our French guys.

agree to you all. as for today's match, he had really chances on Dima's serve, while we cant put all pressure on him. he must be sad but dont be that disappointed pls, to fight with Russian guys just like to do that in final.

now, Richard has lost to almost all the Russian guys: Igor, Davy, Marat, Dima.... :mad: just wish that not be the fade in front of him :eek:

Sweet4Richard
04-09-2006, 05:56 PM
Just checked the results :sad: Of course its disappointing for Richard to lose two five set matches this weekend, but at least Richard gave it his all for the most part in both matches. I am worried that this could possibly hurt Richard in the next few months because of how devastating these losses were and also how many points he has to defend in the coming months. I'm proud to call myself a Richard fan though and I will continue to stick by him no matter how many more matches he losses. Hopefully, Eric will sit down and talk to Richard about improving his return game and being more aggressive on 2nd serves.

Well done to the Russians though who deserved this. :bigclap: I wouldn't actually mind them winning the entire thing along as they don't have to play the US next round. Great tie and it was nice seeing the photos of them celebrating. :)

Flibbertigibbet
04-09-2006, 08:04 PM
Damn, that is sad - two five-set losses in a row, but especially in Davis Cup. Well, undoubtedly Safin is a monster on this surface (and at five set matches), and Tursunov has a good five-set record, too, so credit to his opponents. I was hoping for a French Davis Cup victory this year, but Russia (vs Argentina in the finals?) will be nice, too.

Anyway, I hope Richard can bounce back from this, the clay season is obviously imperative to maintain his ranking. Good luck, allez, etc.!

tennis lover
04-09-2006, 09:18 PM
I'm proud to call myself a Richard fan though and I will continue to stick by him no matter how many more matches he losses.
:yeah: Couldn't have said it better myself! ;)

Daniela_CABJ
04-10-2006, 01:19 AM
:bigcry:

poor Richard :sad:

Surgza
04-10-2006, 05:23 AM
Our poor boy :crying2: Hope he's not doing too bad. But I am 100% confident that he will bounce back from this - he has great support all around him and, hell, if he recovers from two lost matches of five sets vs Russians you can get through anything!!! I hope he knows that many people are proud of him.

And we must remember that he's only 19 yrs old -- he has so much to learn and to sound as cliched as anything :rolleyes: , this is gonna be a pretty big "learning experience for him". Allez Richard! :yippee:

*julie*
04-10-2006, 06:01 AM
It's obvious how much he loves DC and playing for his country. He was in horrible form coming into both ties but he fought really hard in all 3 matches. Sometimes, matches like these can affect a player's career (I have to bring up Paul-Henri ":silly:" Mathieu and the DC 2002 final :o ). His reaction to these two losses will be important. I just hope they don't break him. :sad:

I couldn't see any of his two DC matches so I don't know what to think about all this.
Silver, do you really think these losses could affect him in his career? I mean, I have read everywhere that he fought hard. And it was not a choke (like Paulo/Youzhny). So, let's hope it won't affect him. He has a lot of things to improve and is still young but I am sure he will have the mental to suceed.

OddJob
04-10-2006, 07:54 AM
Richie fought hard in both his matches. He did all he could do for his country and thats all anyone can ask of him. Tho Richie lost both of his singles rubbers he should be proud of his fight and determination.

I hope he brings this great play into the clay court season.

silverwhite
04-10-2006, 01:57 PM
I couldn't see any of his two DC matches so I don't know what to think about all this.
Silver, do you really think these losses could affect him in his career? I mean, I have read everywhere that he fought hard. And it was not a choke (like Paulo/Youzhny). So, let's hope it won't affect him. He has a lot of things to improve and is still young but I am sure he will have the mental to suceed.

I don't know. I hope not.

I know he must feel really devastated considering how hard he fought and how close the matches were and if it were me, I would be inconsoleable. This will be a test of how strong he is...

InfiniteSadness
04-10-2006, 03:36 PM
These 2 losses are so sad... :sad: I fear it broke his selfconfidence even more... (what Guy said about the self image Richard has of himself is pretty worrying...)
The match against Tursunov was so heartbreaking... I was in the Palais des Sports so, I followed all the match live... Everyone cheered so loudly for Richard and believed he could win this match but... I don't know what happened because FOR ME, he deserved to win this match because he seemed he wanted to win it so bad (and more than Tursunov)... I was so devastated when he lost... And all these bad line calls :mad:

But anyway, I'm so proud to be a fan of him, even if he lost his 2 matches. He showed during these matches how much he was motivated and wanted it. (il avait la niac quoi!) He fought so hard! Some people who are not really fan of him told me he played very well and that nobody can say it is his fault if France lost the tie, because he fought really hard. The Russian players were just better.

Other bad news: I read somewhere (in RG.net) that Richard MAY withdraw from Monte Carlo because his abdominals hurt him... (we saw it during the match as he sometimes put his hand on his stomach... Firstly we thought he was ill but apparently these are his abs which hurt...) I hope it's only cramps...

zimzim
04-10-2006, 03:47 PM
These 2 losses are so sad... :sad: I fear it broke his selfconfidence even more... (what Guy said about the self image Richard has of himself is pretty worrying...)
The match against Tursunov was so heartbreaking... I was in the Palais des Sports so, I followed all the match live... Everyone cheered so loudly for Richard and believed he could win this match but... I don't know what happened because FOR ME, he deserved to win this match because he seemed he wanted to win it so bad (and more than Tursunov)... I was so devastated when he lost... And all these bad calls :mad:

But anyway, I'm so proud to be a fan of him, even if he lost his 2 matches. He showed during these matches how much he was motivated and wanted it. (il avait la niac quoi!) He fought so hard! Some people who are not really fan of him told me he played very well and that nobody can say it is his fault if France lost the tie, because he fought really hard. The Russian players were just better.

Other bad news: I read somewhere (in RG.net) that Richard MAY withdraw from Monte Carlo because his abdominals hurt him... (we saw it during the match as he sometimes put his hand on his stomach... Firstly we thought he was ill but apparently these are his abs which hurt...) I hope it's only cramps...I hope it's just cramps cos Richie has had enough nightmares to last him a season

Puschkin
04-10-2006, 03:57 PM
These 2 losses are so sad... :sad: I fear it broke his selfconfidence even more...

I somehow feel these two defeats are the consequence of his lacking confidence, which is of a broader and deeper nature. I think deep down in his heart, Richard still does not fully believe in his abilities, which is hard to understand for outsiders, as he has got so much talent. And while many people on this world are too certain of themselves, Richard seems to be the opposite, which somehow also explains his obvious shyness. However, I trust in his environment to find the right means to keep him going.


Other bad news: I read somewhere (in RG.net) that Richard MAY withdraw from Monte Carlo because his abdominals hurt him... (we saw it during the match as he sometimes put his hand on his stomach... Firstly we thought he was ill but apparently these are his abs which hurt...) I hope it's only cramps...
If the injury is serious, withdraw. If not, go out and play, hiding won't help.

silverwhite
04-10-2006, 03:57 PM
Oh no... :sad:

silverwhite
04-10-2006, 04:02 PM
I finally watched the second and third sets of the Tursunov match which I taped (I overslept and missed the first set, the match was stopped after the third set because of another sibling :rolleyes: ).

He played too defensively, I think. He actually defended really really well but his passive play cost him in the end because he probably ran out of gas in the fifth.

Like Mag mentioned, there were a few bad line calls (Eric Molina :rolleyes: ), one of them on SP in the third. The third set should have been concluded 7-5 instead of going to a TB. The consequence of that was that Tursunov served first in the fourth (an advantage) and Richard was unnecessary riled up by bad line calls in the TB. Both of these, IMO, gave Tursunov the edge in the fourth.

No excuses, though. Richard has to improve on his stamina and has to learn to block out things that go against him like bad line calls....

silverwhite
04-10-2006, 06:16 PM
If the injury is serious, withdraw. If not, go out and play, hiding won't help.

What?? You really think he's like that? :o

richard gasquet
04-10-2006, 07:54 PM
I watched the Stade2 interview after the Davis Cup and well... richard looked very "affected" by this loss :sad:

dont like to see him that way, he is like he lost his parents or what.OK he was so close to beat tursunov, its always difficult to lose when you wanted so much to win and you fought so hard.But well, its just a match, richard is learning and he has to know that tennis pro life is not easy, there will be very tough moments, more defeats to deal with, that 's tennis.But he has so much qualities, talent, love for the game that he cannot be too much disappointed and affected by this tie.He will bounce back, he has to work again and again, he will learn from this tough moments.Champions always learn from defeats to become more stronger and mature about them and their game.Tough period for him but he will come through, he must believe in himself more because he is alone on the court facing another opponent.If he doesnt believe in himself who else will??

I seem perhaps a little bit "harsh" today because I use to be optimistic and positive but seeing richard that way, plus forget said that he doesnt have a good vision about himself makes me sad and also furious because he is too much talented to fall in that kind of "negativeness" he can not not believe in himself, that just :eek: and :(

he has to regroup and go to the fight quickly, play another tournament, not stay thinking about this match.Not the solution at all.
He is learning so has to face some harder moments but its with that kind of tough times that he will get more solid and strong.

Hope that his pain in abdos is not serious, Monte Carlo is "his tournament" he made so great "come back" there and I want to believe that he can do it again this year.Amen.

Sweet4Richard
04-10-2006, 09:59 PM
Like Mag mentioned, there were a few bad line calls (Eric Molina :rolleyes: ), one of them on SP in the third.

No excuses, though. Richard has to improve on his stamina and has to learn to block out things that go against him like bad line calls....

And he's my favortie umpire too :smash:

Exactly. Two main things he has to focus on are his stamina and blocking out bad calls (along with improving his return game).

dont like to see him that way, he is like he lost his parents or what.OK he was so close to beat tursunov, its always difficult to lose when you wanted so much to win and you fought so hard.But well, its just a match, richard is learning and he has to know that tennis pro life is not easy, there will be very tough moments, more defeats to deal with, that 's tennis.But he has so much qualities, talent, love for the game that he cannot be too much disappointed and affected by this tie.He will bounce back, he has to work again and again, he will learn from this tough moments.Champions always learn from defeats to become more stronger and mature about them and their game.Tough period for him but he will come through, he must believe in himself more because he is alone on the court facing another opponent.If he doesnt believe in himself who else will??

Well said and I couldn't agree more with your entire post. :worship:

I just hope that Richard's stomatch/abs is okay and that it was only just cramps. I don't want to see him injured again. :sad: Get Well Soon, Richard!

parissima
04-10-2006, 10:03 PM
I agree with Mag. Richie did fight for the match. He really wanted to win... Tried his best, i guess..

I'm still proud of him and keep on supporting him of course. Forgot to say that in the GBCT. ^^

:awww: hope his abdominals won't end up being a serious problem...

Daniela_CABJ
04-10-2006, 10:28 PM
:tears: Richard :sobbing:

Does anyone have good news? :angel:

Puschkin
04-11-2006, 06:38 AM
What?? You really think he's like that? :o

They all are ;) Some of the "injuries" on the tour are "tactical withdrawals" for one or the other reason.

Puschkin
04-11-2006, 06:42 AM
Tough period for him but he will come through, he must believe in himself more because he is alone on the court facing another opponent.If he doesnt believe in himself who else will??

I seem perhaps a little bit "harsh" today because I use to be optimistic and positive but seeing richard that way, plus forget said that he doesnt have a good vision about himself makes me sad and also furious because he is too much talented to fall in that kind of "negativeness" he can not not believe in himself, that just :eek: and :(


I totally share this impressions, that is a problem. But as I said earlier, I have faith in his coach and the other people around him, plus learning from defeats is a part of maturing and in this department, there is still a lot to do.

silverwhite
04-11-2006, 06:47 AM
They all are ;) Some of the "injuries" on the tour are "tactical withdrawals" for one or the other reason.

If anything, I expect him to withdraw due to fatigue. I mean, he had to rest a few weeks after the Haas match and I don't think he was "hiding" because he got some confidence from that match. This time, it must be twice the fatigue. :o

Puschkin
04-11-2006, 06:59 AM
If anything, I expect him to withdraw due to fatigue. I mean, he had to rest a few weeks after the Haas match and I don't think he was "hiding" because he got some confidence from that match. This time, it must be twice the fatigue. :o

Withdrawing due to fatigue is human and understandable, but it is not an injury. I don't think players can give fatigue as an "official" reason. If yes, I admit an error.

As for the hiding. There was no need to hide after the Haas-match, while there is a risk of "hiding" now. I just hope, he won't.

silverwhite
04-11-2006, 09:19 AM
Withdrawing due to fatigue is human and understandable, but it is not an injury. I don't think players can give fatigue as an "official" reason. If yes, I admit an error.

As for the hiding. There was no need to hide after the Haas-match, while there is a risk of "hiding" now. I just hope, he won't.

I'm not saying that withdrawing because of fatigue is excusable. I'm just saying that if he withdraws, it's more likely because of that than because he wants to "hide". :p I cited the Haas match as an example of how easily he is fatigued. :o

richard gasquet
04-11-2006, 08:57 PM
I totally share this impressions, that is a problem. But as I said earlier, I have faith in his coach and the other people around him, plus learning from defeats is a part of maturing and in this department, there is still a lot to do.

Yes you re right.Still a lot to do.

One day hopefully, will come when he will feel real good, everything will be on track, knowing how to play such or such opponents,how to deal with pressure,expectations from the french medias.

Yes he will feel much more pressure with years coming, like amélie mauresmo.Everyone in France expect him to win a slam and especially Roland Garros.23 years since a french won this slam, its just crasy the years passing.

he seems to be able to win one slam one day and everybody, also himself want Roland Garros victory.

He must not put pressure on him because of all these expectations.It could affect him and also his game.I hope for him that he doesnt pay too much attention of what medias can say about him.It would be just ridiculous and useless because medias are just stupid, one day you are a HERO and the day after you 're NOTHING.

I know it by following amélie mauresmo carreer, she just was so sensitive about what people can say about her, she didnt have a good vision of herself and didnt trust about her capacities to win a slam.She had talent, evrything to succeed and win many slams but she didnt trust in herself.

she needed to fall very low, two tough loss in first rounds of tournaments to realize that she cant continue that way anymore.She didnt drop the business and played quickly another tournament and won it whereas allmedias were spitting to her, adviced her to change completely her game,that she is not strong enough mentally etc...CRAPS.

she won the Masters,beating great players and then won her first slam at the Australian Open.She is n°1 right now.

I think every player has his own way to see his game,himself, feel doubts, can fall very low but real Champions always find a way to come back stronger learning about their weaknesses.

Hopefully richard crew will comfort him, advice him the better way. He must trust in himself, always.

tennis lover
04-11-2006, 10:12 PM
I hope the injusy is nothing serious, Monte Carlo always seems to bring out the best in him! And all of Guy's comments about Richard not believing in himself are really worrying, I can't help thinking his poor start to the season is affecting him confidence wise more than he is letting on. All he needs is some good wins to make him believe in himself again. I just hope they will come soon before the damage to his confidence gets too much!

zimzim
04-11-2006, 10:37 PM
I hope the injusy is nothing serious, Monte Carlo always seems to bring out the best in him! And all of Guy's comments about Richard not believing in himself are really worrying, I can't help thinking his poor start to the season is affecting him confidence wise more than he is letting on. All he needs is some good wins to make him believe in himself again. I just hope they will come soon before the damage to his confidence gets too much!I think Richard would be okay as long as he is healthy....I think he'llhave a good clay court season, and continue with the flow for the rest of the season...I still have a lot of faith in him, and I think he'll deliver, but are there any updates on his injury?