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Horatio Caine
11-30-2005, 08:46 PM
Tennis: Davis cup final.

Croatia v Slovak Republic

Croatia to win @ 1.40 (20 units)

Croatia were very strong favourites to win the tie before this week. They have Ljubicic and Ancic in their squad that are more than likely to play every live match.

Ljubicic has an incredible 9/0 record going into this tie, made more incredible after his spectacular giant - killing run over the USA in Spring. His best surface is indoors, as witnessed by his outstanding late - season surge to the Masters Cup. Indeed, he is the #2 player indoors behind Federer. I do not expect him to lose any singles match this weekend - he owns Hrbaty head-to-head and has a superior game to the Slovak #2 singles player.

Ancic is no pigeon. He is at home on the fast indoor surfaces and should be able to account for Hrbaty at the very least - Dom is very vulnerable against strong serve - volleyers and has an appalling record against them. Ancic would have been more vulnerable against Beck - a man who has a habit of accounting for serve - volleyers - but it is likely he won't be playing. I would expect Ancic to account for the replacement Slovak player.

As a doubles team, Ljubo and Ancic are unbeaten in DC this year but they have been extended in every match and could lose the Saturday rubber.

On to the Slovaks.

Hrbaty has put on quite a show this year, winning vital points for his nation in the singles rubbers. He plays his best tennis in DC and in front of his home crowd and so he will be even tougher to play than normal. IMO he is more likely to upset Ljubicic than Ancic...if Dom can keep Ljubo pinned to the baseline then he will have a chance to draw out errors from the Croat...but seeing Ljubo's impeccable record against him doesn't make for pleasant reading! He is unlikely to upset Ancic - Dom's game doesn't match up well to serve - volleyers.

There have been rumours this week that Beck is injured, has tested positive for drugs - misuse and hasn't turned up to practises...leaving the option open for Kucera to play singles instead. Either way, Beck at his best is very difficult to play on a fast court, but this year has been a nightmare for him and the occasion would probably get to him. Kucera has been largely inactive all year and his ranking has dropped to 297. He shouldn't be fit enough, physically or match - tough, to frighten either Croat singles player.

As to the doubles, Beck and Mertinak played a perfect 3 rubbers this year, winning them all comfortably. If they were to somehow play again this weekend, then I would say they have a very good chance to win the Saturday doubles tie. However, it is likely that Beck won't be playing, and so it will be down to a singles player to take his place...Dom or Kucera. Dom is more likely to play as the Slovaks won't want to chuck the rubber away. He is good in doubles with his ability to carve out angles but his serve is not strong and 1 break could end their chances in each set. If Kucera were to play, his lack of match practise wouldn't be so obvious and, with some good volleying, the Slovak pair stands a good chance in keeping the match tight. If that happens...who knows what could happen.

My theory of how the weekend could pan out (with Beck playing) - worst scenario (no particular singles order):

Ljubicic (1) def Beck (2)
Ancic (2) def Hrbaty (1)
Ljubicic / Ancic lose to Beck / Mertinak
Ljubicic (1) def Hrbaty (1)

Croatia win 3/1.
Croatia win 3/0 - more likely.

The worst - case scenario I can see, is Beck winning all 3 rubbers...but the chances of that right now are about 2%

I just cannot see a Slovak win... 1.40 is a fairly good deal considering.

bad gambler
11-30-2005, 09:12 PM
Is the Beckster definitely out?

If so they may as well throw Mecir in as he will have a better chance than Kucera :silly:

I can Still get Croatia at $1.50, looks too easy

Horatio Caine
11-30-2005, 09:28 PM
Is the Beckster definitely out?

If so they may as well throw Mecir in as he will have a better chance than Kucera :silly:

I can Still get Croatia at $1.50, looks too easy

Lol mate. He is not definitely out...but there are some very good signs that he isn't playing.

I'd expect Croatia to win regardless, but this only strengthens their bid for glory.

I could get 1.53 at the start of the week but the line went down overnight :confused:

I expect the line to drop some more, especially if Beck doesn't play. Get on it now!!! :yeah:

Horatio Caine
12-01-2005, 06:53 PM
Ancic over Hrbaty @ 2.10

Analysis: http://www.menstennisforums.com/sho...845#post2758845

Good luck everyone! :yeah:

JMG
12-01-2005, 09:05 PM
Croatia to win @1.40 :smoke:


http://www.smiliemania.de/smilie.php?smile_ID=576

bad gambler
12-02-2005, 05:40 AM
Hrbaty to beat Ancic - $1.60


good luck

adk
12-02-2005, 07:18 AM
Hrbaty to beat Ancic - $1.60


good luck

With you on that.

Hrbaty over Ancic at $1.66 (WH) - can't see that price lasting too long

Horatio Caine
12-02-2005, 12:49 PM
I just don't get why everyone is on Hrbaty. Yes, Ancic has had a poor DC singles year but his game is not the best match for Dom. :confused:

If Ancic loses, I'd be grateful if someone tells me just how Dom broke him down, because I sure don't see it :o

bad gambler
12-02-2005, 02:30 PM
I just don't get why everyone is on Hrbaty. Yes, Ancic has had a poor DC singles year but his game is not the best match for Dom. :confused:

If Ancic loses, I'd be grateful if someone tells me just how Dom broke him down, because I sure don't see it :o

Forget matchups, this is Davis Cup

1. Ancic is a choker, period
2. This is Davis Cup
3. Hrbaty is a Davis Cup BEAST
3. Choker + Davis Cup = fade material

I would have faded Ancic regardless, but he is up against a very capable DC player in Hrbaty, to me it's a fairly straight forward bet :confused:

Lets see if Ancic has it in him to prove me wrong.

MariaV
12-02-2005, 02:34 PM
Lets see if Ancic has it in him to prove me wrong.

He WILL prove you wrong!!!! :mad: :fiery: ;)

bad gambler
12-02-2005, 02:34 PM
He WILL prove you wrong!!!! :mad: :feiry: ;)


NO :p

MariaV
12-02-2005, 02:36 PM
BG!!!!!!!! :mad: :fiery: I won't impersonate croats here more, I'll go home cheering for them. :hatoff:
So I won't disturb your betting any more, carry on gents. :) :hatoff:

happy928
12-02-2005, 02:36 PM
Forget matchups, this is Davis Cup

1. Ancic is a choker, period
2. This is Davis Cup
3. Hrbaty is a Davis Cup BEAST
3. Choker + Davis Cup = fade material

I would have faded Ancic regardless, but he is up against a very capable DC player in Hrbaty, to me it's a fairly straight forward bet :confused:

Lets see if Ancic has it in him to prove me wrong.


AJMO MARIO!!!!!!!! :worship:

Horatio Caine
12-02-2005, 02:38 PM
Lets see if Ancic has it in him to prove me wrong.

Well, the odds are heavily against me, what with Jim backing Dom as well :lol:

But, I faded both you guys last week in NBA, your own "turf" - so now it is time for me to try to take you out on my turf ;)

Good luck to everyone playing this match :yeah:

happy928
12-02-2005, 03:18 PM
AJMO MARIO!!!!!!!! :worship:
eh, i changed my mind......Gotta support Dominator today! C'MON Funky Shirt man! :cool:

jole
12-02-2005, 07:07 PM
Where's Sports Freak? Surely he told all y'all that the Dom is good. :D

adk
12-02-2005, 07:33 PM
With you on that.

Hrbaty over Ancic at $1.66 (WH) - can't see that price lasting too long

Bet won :)

bad gambler
12-02-2005, 08:07 PM
Hrbaty to beat Ancic - $1.60


good luck


like taking candy from a baby

vamos svk and dominator



boooooyyyahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

DrJules
12-02-2005, 10:11 PM
Forget matchups, this is Davis Cup

1. Ancic is a choker, period
2. This is Davis Cup
3. Hrbaty is a Davis Cup BEAST
3. Choker + Davis Cup = fade material

I would have faded Ancic regardless, but he is up against a very capable DC player in Hrbaty, to me it's a fairly straight forward bet :confused:

Lets see if Ancic has it in him to prove me wrong.

How did you know what was going to happen :confused:

bad gambler
12-02-2005, 10:44 PM
How did you know what was going to happen :confused:


i can look into the future, sorry don't understand :confused:

Horatio Caine
12-02-2005, 11:40 PM
Ancic over Hrbaty @ 2.10

Well that went belly - up :( :bigcry:

Mario - win a live singles already! :smash:

Congrats to Dom backers :yeah: :worship:

sports freak
12-02-2005, 11:45 PM
Forget matchups, this is Davis Cup

1. Ancic is a choker, period
2. This is Davis Cup
3. Hrbaty is a Davis Cup BEAST
3. Choker + Davis Cup = fade material

I would have faded Ancic regardless, but he is up against a very capable DC player in Hrbaty, to me it's a fairly straight forward bet :confused:

Lets see if Ancic has it in him to prove me wrong.

The DOM is GOOD ;)

sports freak
12-02-2005, 11:48 PM
Where's Sports Freak? Surely he told all y'all that the Dom is good. :D

Hey champ u read me mind,saw the first page of this thread and just posted it,then clicked on page 2 to see ur post,now thats freakish shit!!!! :eek:

p.s The DOM is GOOD :D :D

sports freak
12-02-2005, 11:49 PM
i can look into the future, sorry don't understand :confused:


:lol: :lol: :haha:

Horatio Caine
12-02-2005, 11:50 PM
I'm thinking he could well Ljub up Ljubo on Sunday...he is looking good and Ivan didn't play amazingly today. Furthermore, if Ljubo plays a long doubles and loses, regardless of whether Dom plays doubles, he will be pumped to clinch the Cup in the 4th rubber...this could get interesting

sports freak
12-02-2005, 11:54 PM
I'm thinking he could well Ljub up Ljubo on Sunday...he is looking good and Ivan didn't play amazingly today. Furthermore, if Ljubo plays a long doubles and loses, regardless of whether Dom plays doubles, he will be pumped to clinch the Cup in the 4th rubber...this could get interesting

Dominator is a machine mate,played a marathorn 5 setter at the Aust Open and went for a 10 km run straight afterwards,no problems wit juice for him and if Lubo isnt up to notch it could be primed for Dom,has the mental smartness to go wit Lubo!!!

bad gambler
12-03-2005, 12:03 AM
anyone know whether the becskter is still playing the doubles?

its.like.that
12-03-2005, 03:38 AM
ROFL @ Ancic

bad gambler
12-03-2005, 07:01 AM
Well that went belly - up :( :bigcry:

Mario - win a live singles already! :smash:

Congrats to Dom backers :yeah: :worship:


lol mate, why you backed a choker is beyond me

good luck next time

bad gambler
12-03-2005, 07:06 AM
well it looks no betting on the doubles today - most of the books I see have it suspended given Beck is out :(

jole
12-03-2005, 07:14 AM
Hey champ u read me mind,saw the first page of this thread and just posted it,then clicked on page 2 to see ur post,now thats freakish shit!!!! :eek:

p.s The DOM is GOOD :D :D

I read your mind, and you read mine.

Bravo Sports Freak, bravo Dominik, bravo Slovakia!

Horatio Caine
12-06-2005, 08:05 PM
Croatia to win @ 1.40

Bet won! :banana: :yeah: :smoke:

Nice way to end the year...see you on court in 2006! :bigwave: