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Andy Murray blasts LTA (about time someone high profile did...)

Raquel
11-28-2005, 05:36 PM
I agree with Andy and I am glad we now have someone who speaks out about it. It's long overdue that someone high profile spoke out about the LTA. I know Andy is focusing on his own brother's time at the LTA, but when you think about the amount of money the LTA gets from Wimbledon every year it is an absolute joke that the 3 highest profile male players of the last ten years in Britain had not much to do with the LTA when developing. No woman player in the top 100 in a long time. Their record is inexcusable but no one ever seems to give them much criticism. Tim Henman never criticises their record (probably because he has close ties with David Felgate), but it's about time someone did. It's also about time the LTA woke up and implemented the same coaching systems countries like Russia and Spain have. They seem to have no problem in producing a conveyer belt of players. And the weather is no excuse. The LTA has a huge indoor facility as it's base where all the top coaches are meant to be, so why has no one decent ever come out of it?

http://www.sportinglife.com/tennis/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=tennis/05/11/28/TENNIS_Aberdeen_Nightlead.html

MURRAY BLASTS LTA

Andy Murray has accused the Lawn Tennis Association of hampering the development of older brother Jamie's tennis career.

The world number 65, still just 18, guided Scotland to victory over England in the inaugural Aberdeen Cup at the weekend.

He teamed up with brother Jamie for a doubles win over England's Greg Rusedski and David Sherwood on Sunday.

There were aspects of 19-year-old Jamie's game which suggested he has the potential to follow his brother a good way up the senior men's rankings.

But he is 15 months older than Andy and despite reaching the doubles semi-finals of the junior US Open with his brother in 2004, he has not made the same advances as his younger sibling since.

Jamie is currently at a career-high of 896th in the world.

"My brother is very talented," said Andy Murray.

"He was number two in the world when he was around the age of 13 and then he went down to an LTA school in Cambridge and they ruined him for a few years. It was their fault.

"But I really want him to come back and do well because he is a good guy and he works very hard.

"He wants to be a tennis player and I think he has shown he has the talent."

None of the current top three British players - Tim Henman, Rusedski and Murray - came through the recognised LTA coaching ranks as youngsters.

Rusedski grew up in Canada and moved to Britain as a ready-made top-50 professional, while Henman also developed largely outside typical LTA coaching structures. The younger Murray spent the formative stages of his career learning the ropes in Spain, albeit with the aid of LTA financial support.

Former world number four Rusedski was more diplomatic about the standard of the UK's coaching infrastructure, but he too sees problems which need to be addressed.

Rusedski said: "Things are getting better but there is still a lot of room for improvement, that's for sure.

"But it is also about finding those kids who have something different and finding parents who are really involved with the kids.

"Judy (Murray) is very involved with Andy's tennis and he is quite a fighter and a character. He is not your average young person.

"As he said the other day, he hates to lose at anything as it is life or death for him, so to speak.

"I think with myself, Tim and Andy it is the same sort of mentality, even though we show it in three different ways.

"It is about finding the kids that are like that from a young age and whether they are in or out of the system, trying to find a way to develop them.

"There has to be a way to work it so hopefully things can get better, in fact they are getting better but there is still room for improvement."

The LTA reacted to Murray's criticism of the coaching system, with performance director David Felgate stressing that there was no uniform way of bringing on players.

Their input into Murray's career allowed him to develop his game in Spain, and Tim Henman's former coach believes the LTA are achieving success with their policy.

Felgate said: "The LTA recognises that different players react to different approaches which is why we have introduced choice and flexibility into our performance system and continue to support our best players wherever they want to train in Britain or beyond."

adee-gee
11-28-2005, 05:41 PM
Couldn't agree more. I must say, Jamie looked like a talented kid when I saw him in the Aberdeen Cup, I saw him play a couple of years ago and didn't think much of him but he looked like he's progressed the last year or 2. Hope he goes far.

El Legenda
11-28-2005, 05:41 PM
right on :yeah:

DrJules
11-28-2005, 05:46 PM
About time more was said. Receive sizeable amounts of money yet produce no players. Something needs to be done.

Murray is the best thing to happen in British/Scottish tennis in the last 10 years.

Jimnik
11-28-2005, 05:56 PM
I'm afraid it's more than just the LTA's fault. The whole British schooling system is screwed up.

Every school in the country has hours of 9-5 Monday to Friday. Kids don't have time to play any sports during the week. On the weekend, you try to book a tennis court and either they're all booked out, they say "you have to be a member to play here" or, most likely, it's raining and the courts are unplayable.

During school hours, they sometimes have sports on the odd afternoon. When you're young, you're usually forced to play rugby or football. Sometimes swimming, badminton, indoor football, fives or squash.:zzz: Certainly, during the autumn and spring terms, there was never an oppurtunity to play tennis. When the summer finally arrives, you're either playing cricket :banghead: :zzz: or tennis but by then you've played hardly any tennis throughout the year and you feel really rusty. Half the time, you can't even play during the summer because of rain or slippery courts.

Bloody British schools with their "traditions". They believe children "should be playing such fine sports as rugby and cricket" rather than letting them decide which sport they want to persue.

Raquel
11-28-2005, 06:04 PM
I agree that tennis will never be high on the list of sports played in British schools. However the LTA gets a LOT of money every year from Wimbledon. A lot more than most countries. They have groups of kids at the main LTA base where the best coaches are based so why has none of the kids who are there ever come through? Not one example of a really good player that was a product of that LTA centre in years. You would think by law of averages if the coaching was that good they would have got at least one top 100 player on either the mens and womens tour. Where's all that money actually going?

stebs
11-28-2005, 06:09 PM
I'm afraid it's more than just the LTA's fault. The whole British schooling system is screwed up.

Every school in the country has hours of 9-5 Monday to Friday. Kids don't have time to play any sports during the week. On the weekend, you try to book a tennis court and either they're all booked out, they say "you have to be a member to play here" or, most likely, it's raining and the courts are unplayable.

During school hours, they sometimes have sports on the odd afternoon. When you're young, you're usually forced to play rugby or football. Sometimes swimming, badminton, indoor football, fives or squash.:zzz: Certainly, during the autumn and spring terms, there was never an oppurtunity to play tennis. When the summer finally arrives, you're either playing cricket :banghead: :zzz: or tennis but by then you've played hardly any tennis throughout the year and you feel really rusty. Half the time, you can't even play during the summer because of rain or slippery courts.

Bloody British schools with their "traditions". They believe children "should be playing such fine sports as rugby and cricket" rather than letting them decide which sport they want to persue.


okay i dont want to be rude. but that is an absolutely huge pile of shit to be quite honest. im a teacher at a school in bristol and the hours are not 9 to 5. the day ends at 3 monday through friday. also the kids pick which options they would like to do for games at the start of each year. To be honest I think you need to look into some of this stuff before you speak i dont think you know anything m,uch of what y0ur talking about. My school is no exception either.

adee-gee
11-28-2005, 06:14 PM
okay i dont want to be rude. but that is an absolutely huge pile of shit to be quite honest. im a teacher at a school in bristol and the hours are not 9 to 5. the day ends at 3 monday through friday. also the kids pick which options they would like to do for games at the start of each year. To be honest I think you need to look into some of this stuff before you speak i dont think you know anything m,uch of what y0ur talking about. My school is no exception either.
I actually thought he made some valid points. My school finished at 3.45pm, by which time it was usually too dark to play. I was never given the opportunity to do tennis as my P.E choice. The standard of the outdoor courts in Britain is appalling, and although I was able to join a tennis club when I was young, there are many who cannot afford this as it is particularly expensive. There is also the fact that very few of my friends play tennis, and its not as easy to arrange games as it is for say football when you have virtually anyone that wants to play.

Jimnik
11-28-2005, 06:18 PM
okay i dont want to be rude. but that is an absolutely huge pile of shit to be quite honest. im a teacher at a school in bristol and the hours are not 9 to 5. the day ends at 3 monday through friday. also the kids pick which options they would like to do for games at the start of each year. To be honest I think you need to look into some of this stuff before you speak i dont think you know anything m,uch of what y0ur talking about. My school is no exception either.
I don't need to "look into some of this stuff". I've been to British schools all my life, I've experienced it. I compare it to Germany, where my cousin goes to school, and they're let out of school at 1pm every day. That leaves them to choose which sport they want to do for the rest of the day. They don't have to wait until the weekend.

dippykitty
11-28-2005, 06:22 PM
I agree. My school PE programme gave girls 6 weeks of tennis (one lesson per week) in the summer and the boys were not given any choice-they had to play cricket. The teachers weren`t interested in particularly teaching tennis as they had little experience of it themselves and thought it was great if we could actually get the ball over the net once in a while.

Dollars & Cents
11-28-2005, 07:09 PM
As much as I admire Murray I don't see how making bland statements such as this really help. All it has achieved is bad publicity for the LTA and well they've had that for longer than Murray has been alive. We all know about the huge investment funding the LTA receives from Wimbledon each year and how other nations producing successful tennis players have better results with a fraction of that...blah blah.

What I would like is Murray to actually state how they ruined his brothers career? What they should do improve? I wouldn't even call what Murray said a 'blast', just another comment that shows his maturity level being that of a teenager. Also, isn't it rich saying that when you take one of their head coaches at a time he needed help?

Nothing against Murray...as I repeat I like the guy a lot...and he has done huge amounts for the British game and will do throughout his career. Just headlines and reports like this out of flippant comments and the reactions that follow, do nothing to improve the situation. Luckily, David Felgate is an intelligent man and will not be distracted in his mission.

Raquel
11-28-2005, 07:15 PM
You say flippant remarks do nothing to help the system but neither does burying their head in the sand and pretending there is no problem. Maybe it's time they were publicly named and shamed and asked to explain where the money is going year after year after year. What kind of coaching methods are they using, that are clearly not working? I think it's time they were made to explain rather than releasing a one sentence statement that doesn't really address the issue or explain anything.

kundalini
11-28-2005, 07:39 PM
A more interesting story than Andy having a go at the LTA would be why did Mark Petchey decide that he wasn't going to continue as LTA Head of Men's development?(or similar sounding title)

Petchey was leaving his job because his vision was different to that of David Felgate. It was well known that he was not going to renew his contract and the fact that Andy offered him a job was simply one of those coincidences that happens sometimes.

But what was it that these two were disagreeing about?

Felgate did a decent job with Tim Henman (and also with Xavier Malisse for a short period) while Petchey has done ok with Andy so far. And yet they obviously disagree about how to go about improving the situation with british tennis.

The LTA have not delivered. The interesting question is what are they going to do differently from now on?

Duncan
11-28-2005, 09:59 PM
i was watching a programme a few years back about kids being coached at tennis and they made them run round a field numerous times and then they were showing the coach on tape saying this kid wasnt gonna make it because his breathing wasnt right. i mean wtf??? that was crazy!

Well done Andy, let's see how they respond to this one :)

mojo37_12
11-29-2005, 04:30 AM
That's sad. Back here in the Philippines we have lots of talented young players, the only problem is that the Philippine Tennis Association doesn't have enough funding to send them to International tournaments or Satellite events to gain enough points to enter the world rankings.

It's really a pity that even with adequate resources the LTA have not really produced any great players to step up for British tennis. I personally don't believe that they can't find any fresh legs to take on the challenge... :confused: