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2006 - Who will be Federer's main rivals?

rofe
11-20-2005, 02:19 PM
Before Nalby's win, there was talk of only Nadal and to some extent Safin being Fed's closest rivals in 2006.

Can Nalby be included in the closest rivals list now or was it just a flash in the pan?

Will Hewitt take heart from this win and be a serious contender against Roger (he actually played quite well at US Open 2005) ?

Will the young guns Tomas and Richard have the extra confidence to push Roger?

Opinions?

rofe
11-20-2005, 02:46 PM
*bump*

Flibbertigibbet
11-20-2005, 02:53 PM
Well, David met Federer three times this year, which was actually more than the Federer-Safin and Federer-Nadal meetings (of course, Safin was injured for the greater part of the year, so he's excused). I do believe that this might bring about a change for the better in his attitude and mental game, so yes, along with Safin, I think Nalbandian might be the prime rival for Federer among the 'older' generation. Of course, Roddick, Hewitt, etc., will all be trying to clamber up there as well.

I do hope the young generation can come in full bloom over the next year or two, though - Nadal, Berdych, Gasquet, Baghdatis, Murray, Monfils, Djokovic, etc., etc., should all rise to the top. If Gasquet is uninjured, I think he can manage to make it to the top 5 of the game, but he does need to win a Slam. Nadal - not much to say there, some more fast-court experience and he might even take Federer's #1 spot. The rest all have their respective games - Federer has met with most of them, apart from Monfils and Djokovic, and he has had some trouble with those he has met.

Clara Bow
11-20-2005, 02:57 PM
Hmm....


I think-
Nadal on slower surfaces...and then more so on hard surfaces (He is improving!) I don't think he should be discounted next year.
Gasquet (duh...pretty game)
Berdych (he has shown us he is in the mood to win big titles)
Nalbandian ( I am living in fairyland where I believe the win of TMC will be the thing to get Nalby to get all of his talent together for a big tourney)
Djokovic (I think he is the one of the young ones that really will be an unexpected force in 2006)
Blake (okay- this may seem stupid- but when Blake is in his zone on hardcourts- he is one of the best imo)

I think Hewitt will finally win a match. Roddck- don't know. Safin- as I think most of us agreee- it depends upon his health.

Monfils- Baghdatis- don't think they will get far enough to meet him, but if they do- Baggy will cause problems.

peteslamz
11-20-2005, 03:13 PM
Nadal and Safin.

TennisLurker
11-20-2005, 03:16 PM
Safin and Nadal, maybe David and someone else playing the match of his life

Scotso
11-20-2005, 03:16 PM
Nadal.

TennisLurker
11-20-2005, 03:17 PM
yeah, let me add gasquet

rofe
11-20-2005, 03:24 PM
Ok, my opinion now. Nadal and Hewitt.

Nadal is a given and he has shown us why in 2005.

Safin will still show flashes of brilliance but not be a rival.

Hewitt will actually be much more of a force against Federer next year, he will actually win a couple against him - I just hope it is not in slams.

The young guns will be there to provide one or two upsets (my bet is Gasquet).

In other words, Roger should cherish his 81-4 record this year since he will definitely not be able to reproduce it next year.

gravity
11-20-2005, 03:37 PM
Dominik Hrbaty and Karol Beck.

Gigan
11-20-2005, 04:43 PM
yeah, let me add gasquet

you're clear idiot...

TennisLurker
11-20-2005, 04:52 PM
you're clear idiot...


And your father was an azeri turk

so what

Lleytonisthebest
11-20-2005, 04:58 PM
Hewill will do it !!

propi
11-20-2005, 05:06 PM
I hope a healthy Ferrero will beat Federer at some point next year :bounce:

jenanun
11-20-2005, 05:15 PM
nadal

case
11-20-2005, 05:35 PM
you're clear idiot...



Speak softly and carry a big racket.


GasquetGASQUETGASQUETGASQUET

Which part don't you understand????

idolwatcher1
11-20-2005, 08:27 PM
Before Nalby's win, there was talk of only Nadal and to some extent Safin being Fed's closest rivals in 2006.

Can Nalby be included in the closest rivals list now or was it just a flash in the pan?

Will Hewitt take heart from this win and be a serious contender against Roger (he actually played quite well at US Open 2005) ?

Will the young guns Tomas and Richard have the extra confidence to push Roger?

Opinions?

Roger played 85 matches in 2005. If he looks at his 2005 head-to-head game ratio with top players, the following is what he would see...
The players in bold are the 16 (the only 16) who took at least a set away from Roger this year...and the other players listed here are the remaining players from the Top 25 and their h2h game ratio with Roger in '05. Keep in mind that the top four players in this list are the only four players to have beaten Roger this year.

Nadal ------1.047 (45:43)
Safin ------ 0.959 (47:49)
Gasquet ---0.943 (33:35)
Nalby ------0.927 (51:55)
Soderling --0.895 (17:19)
Ginepri ---- 0.882 (15:17)
Blake ------ 0.786 (11:14)
Ljubicic --- 0.782 (61:78)
Ferrero --- 0.778 (28:36)
Ancic ----- 0.724 (21:29)
Zabaleta --0.705 (12:17)
Coria ------0.692 (18:26)
Hewitt ---- 0.683 (41:60)
Kiefer ----- 0.675 (52:77)
Gonzo -----0.672 (39:58)
Davy ------ 0.632 (24:38)
Roddick ----0.625 (20:32)
Agassi ---- 0.603 (38:63)
Minar ----- 0.509 (28:55)
Robredo --- 0.417 (5:12)
Berdych --- 0.250 (3:12)
Ferrer ----- 0.167 (2:12)
Gaudio -----0.000 (0:12)
Puerta --
ToJo --
Hrbaty --
Stepanek --

DDrago2
11-20-2005, 09:03 PM
I think Safin is his biggest rival, even Nadal on clay will be easier for him. Also some of the youngsters could be tough, and I say again and again - Mario Ancic on grass!

lucashg
11-20-2005, 09:20 PM
Safin, Nadal and Gasquet. Watch out for Berdych and even Hewitt! He has made their last two meetings way more competitive and Federer wasn't exactly playing bad. I'd like to see him facing Monfils and Djokovic, but don't think they will be cause of upsets next year.

Still, Federer will probably end up with a year-end positive H2H against most of them.

jacobhiggins
11-20-2005, 09:20 PM
I think he'll have the same rivals, David always has been a rival just hasn't won in a while, but saying that Federer was not 100 percent this tournament and he wasn't expecting much. So I still think he will dominate next year and believe it or not, he could still win 3 or maybe even 4 slams, 4 slams is unlikely but it's possible. I defaintely think he can produce another year like this or better, next season!!! This is the same thing people were saying last year, he can't do it again, he's lucky, there's new players, Safin took his confidence away, he won't be able to handle defeat, but Federer proved alot of people wrong and produced almost as good of a year as last year, and one of the best seasons in history!!! I think he will win the AO, Wimby, and US Open next year!!!

AgassiDomination
11-20-2005, 09:40 PM
I say Safin, Nadal, and I hope Agassi :)

Dollars & Cents
11-20-2005, 10:19 PM
Still, Federer will probably end up with a year-end positive H2H against most of them.

Yeah, and that's the important statistic. Sure youngsters can come along and shock Federer on their first meeting, but what makes Federer the best player around is not only all the shots he has in his arsenal - but his brain and tactical awareness. Take Gasquet for example, first meeting Federer lost in tight conditions - less than a month later ground out the victory in solid style. Usually he has the nous to change a match there and then in-the-battle. If not, he sure has hell smart enough to work out what to do for next time.

Uncertaintly is what I think causes Federer the most problems. So if he has an early loss next year to Monfils, Djokovic et al.... don't read too much into it. After all who can forget how angry Federer was when Marcos Daniel caused him so many problems in the first round in Bangkok? That was all down to him thinking he was due to face a baseliner and instead got a big-server and volleyer!

missbungle
11-21-2005, 06:39 AM
I think Nadal, Hewitt, Nalbandian and Safin could take matches off Federer next year. I'd love for Roddick to have a win over Fed too, but I don't think he's ready yet :sad:

drf716
11-21-2005, 07:16 AM
the same question was asked last year
and my answer still remains... marat! huhuhu!

Iheartandy&roger
11-21-2005, 07:31 AM
the usual suspects

-Nadal
-Roddick
-Safin
-Hewitt

maybe we can add....

-James Blake
-Richard Gasquet
-David Nalbandian ( he'll be a rival until Rogi beats him again)

hmm.. hard to tell we'll see next season...

bad gambler
11-21-2005, 07:40 AM
james blake

syd
11-21-2005, 09:49 AM
Only Safin (if he decides himself) , otherwise NO ONE

Galaxystorm
11-21-2005, 09:58 AM
If the main rivals means players that would be able to take the entry ranking first position away from Federer in 2006 , i think that there is only one player ( Nadal ) who has chances although his chances aren't very optimistic in 2006 since he has already to improve out of clay and hard courts a lot. ( Safin being number 1 again ? :lol: , this player doesn't know what " regularity " means and Federer being in the ATP you can't be the number 1 without being at your best level during all the year, not only in concrete weeks . Not even Safin in his best season so far in his career would have ended this year in the second entry ranking position . Every time i listen some person telling Safin will be nº1 again , i say this person doesn't know how entry ranking works :shrug: )

If the main rivals means players that would be able to defeat Roger in a concrete match, i don't care less about this thread since " a real or main rival " is that player who were able to reach at least 5000 entry points , a player who had mathematical chances to end a week being number 1 in the entry ranking putting Federer under pressure . A player who can defeat Roger two or more times during a season but he ends the year with 2500 or 3500 points he isn't a main rival at all . Entry ranking is a ranking of regularity, not a ranking of head to heads , i die laughing every time that i see some people thinking that if a player has a winner head to head against another player , he's better player , although the player with the loser head to head has 2000 more points :silly:

willrock
11-21-2005, 10:15 AM
NADAL and GASQUET! :cool:

mangoes
11-21-2005, 04:12 PM
Nadal

ExpectedWinner
11-21-2005, 04:17 PM
Himself, health, and players mentioned above.

keep_er_lit!
11-21-2005, 04:58 PM
Nadal and Hewitt. Safin if he stays reasonably fit.

Jimnik
11-21-2005, 05:52 PM
Nadal, Coria, Ferrero and Gasquet on clay. Nadal, Nalbandian and Safin on hard courts. Roddick on grass.

DrJules
11-21-2005, 06:11 PM
His feet. :eek:

El Legenda
11-21-2005, 06:14 PM
Ljubo :) seems to get close everytime :)

nermo
11-21-2005, 06:19 PM
first i think it depends on his physical condition and how far 'll go his feet injuries.
second for players, Nadal (sp. on Clay), Berdych, Safin if he manages to return which i think he will.,Nalbandian, Gasquet, and Ljubicic.
all in all, true competiton adds to the Good of the game, and levels of all players including Federer. only wish Injuries won't be a true rival. :angel:

joyk
11-21-2005, 06:34 PM
Nalbandian remains Federer`s biggest rival,I don`t think Safin and Nadal are constant threats.

Jimnik
11-21-2005, 06:42 PM
Nalbandian remains Federer`s biggest rival,I don`t think Safin and Nadal are constant threats.
You think Nalbandian is a "constant threat"? Did you see their match at the US Open?

Galaxystorm
11-21-2005, 07:02 PM
Nalbandian remains Federer`s biggest rival,I don`t think Safin and Nadal are constant threats.

I assume you meant Nalbandian is a constant threat , and i wonder since when he has been a constant player able to keep his mind focused more than concrete weeks ?? :rolleyes:

thelma
11-21-2005, 07:11 PM
Nadal, Safin, Berdych, Hewitt, Nalbandian, etc... I guess

cedez
11-21-2005, 08:58 PM
nadal

I agree. Nadal

Pigpen Stinks
11-21-2005, 09:21 PM
How about Bavis Baghdatis and Dmitry Tursunov? Go with a couple of upstarts.

cedez
11-21-2005, 09:26 PM
Nadal and Hewitt. Safin if he stays reasonably fit.

Hewitt? Really? He has never given Federer much of a run for his money. The 2004 US Open final was pretty much a joke, and I don't remeber any of their match ups this year being especially memorable. Was there a great match I'm just forgetting???