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Will Nadal reach #1 next year?

Tennis_Passion
11-09-2005, 03:33 AM
Richard Jago in Miami
Tuesday March 30, 2004
The Guardian

Roger Federer predicted last week that Rafael Nadal would succeed him as world No1 within three years. On this evidence it will happen quicker than that as the 17-year-old Spaniard overwhelmed the top-seeded Wimbledon champion 6-3, 6-3 in the third round of the Nasdaq-100 Open.
Nadal's performance was spectacular. He struck the ball with a remarkable sense of freedom, served like a dream and hit forehands with such colossal pace and spin that they reared up and lurched forward unpredictably.

And Nadal bounced about the court as though trampolines were below his soles. "I'm not surprised," sighed Federer, who had been below his best. "That's what youngsters do," said the Swiss, all of 22, to laughter all round.

Federer certainly had his excuses, though he did not volunteer them. He suffered heat exhaustion after playing Tim Henman in 40C at Indian Wells a week before and had been unable to prepare for Miami.

But the world No1 said of Nadal: "I've heard a lot about him and I think this is not a surprise to anybody."

But it was a surprise to an American crowd. Many had not heard of the Spaniard, who entered this event as world No34, yet most stayed late into the night to watch him, thrilled by a sense of being present at a star's emergence and roused by his adrenalin-charged gestures.

At the end Nadal performed a jig reminiscent of Jimmy Connors. "This year I'm playing with more confidence," he said through an interpreter. "I'm winning because I have raised my level and I believe I belong to the top. But I probably never served like this in my life."

Nadal created his first break point in the fifth game, jumping on a short approach by Federer and leathering it past him. He converted with his next hit, a deep and fast return, forcing Federer into a half- volley drive which sailed long.

Already Federer was showing signs of losing confidence. Too often Nadal was able to strike balls when positioned inside the court, and Federer did not come forward as much as he might.

One break also decided the second set. From 40-0 in the sixth game Federer missed two forehand drives, received one ball which skidded unplayably off the line, was passed by an amazing Nadal forehand from well behind the baseline and struck another forehand of his own long. That was effectively the end.
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March 2004, , that was when Andy was #2, and Rafael was #35, now he is number 2:).
But man, 3 years is after all a pretty long time for Nadal to be conent with being #2.
But Roger could be right after all, if he still stays #1 for the whole year next year, he will likely make the new record for being the longest running #1 in ATP history.
Is anyone here hoping that Nadal disrupt that and get to #1 before Roger and make history?:).

El Legenda
11-09-2005, 03:34 AM
No. and we get it you need vCash

nitsansh
11-09-2005, 03:42 AM
As long as Roger manage to win 2 Slams a year and Nadal no more than one, it won't happend.

Tennis_Passion
11-09-2005, 03:44 AM
No. and we get it you need vCash
I could get that by posting pointless posts @ player's forum....
But I dont wanna waste my cheers on those who have no prospects at all:).

PaulieM
11-09-2005, 03:46 AM
how many threads can you possibly post/bump in one day?:(

Tennis_Passion
11-09-2005, 03:55 AM
Not sure....why, u've got a problem with that?.....
Nothing happened this week, what harm can there be to have some blasts from the past?

tennisinparis
11-09-2005, 04:24 AM
geez, can we belabor this question or not. it is like beating a freakin' dead horse.

Daniel
11-09-2005, 04:42 AM
No

prima donna
11-09-2005, 05:18 AM
Someone is awfully desperate for vCash.

Scotso
11-09-2005, 05:33 AM
I think it's a possibility :D

landoud
11-09-2005, 05:48 AM
As long as Roger manage to win 2 Slams a year and Nadal no more than one, it won't happend.
i think he will win 2 slams RG and one of the hard courts ...
it's a big possibility that he will be #1

Deivid23
11-09-2005, 06:00 AM
Itīs just a matter of time Nadal will reach #1. Maybe, next year, itīs possible.

Puschkin
11-09-2005, 06:41 AM
Itīs just a matter of time Nadal will reach #1. Maybe, next year, itīs possible.

It is certainly possible. The more interesting question, how long will he stay there? I expect more changes at the number 1 position in 2006.

$@M
11-09-2005, 06:43 AM
not possible as long as Federer is still playing... ;)

Rafa = Fed Killa
11-09-2005, 07:25 AM
If Nadal can take AO and RG then yes.
Will see if Fed is rattled by his game the next time they play

David Kenzie
11-09-2005, 09:45 AM
I don't think Nadal can establish himself as a solid #1 while Roger is playing but he certainly CAN be #1 and sooner than many think. An early exit for Roger at the Masters and/or the AO could be enough.

Exodus
11-09-2005, 10:36 AM
Nope Nadal will not be no 1. he have ALOT of points to defend next year and im pretty sure that he can't defend them all. Besides others players will start to figure him out and starting to beat him.

Fergie
11-09-2005, 11:33 AM
No

DhammaTiger
11-09-2005, 11:50 AM
Why not? I think Rafa can win another gs besides RG, and defend all his points. Didn't they say the same about Roger iat the end of last year? so, many points to defend etc and look where we re now. I think Rafa can achieve anything he sets his mind to. Having said all that, I don't hink he will be number one in 2006 but the year after next it's probable.

Horatio Caine
11-09-2005, 12:39 PM
Nadal has a good chance next year but he has to do it before RG. He can get right behind Roger at the start of the year....Roger has SF points at Aus Open and winner points for AMS Indian Wells and Miami. There is a chance there and also how he performs next week will be critical.

If he doesn't get to #1 by April then I think he won't until 2007 earliest.

Galaxystorm
11-09-2005, 01:42 PM
If Nadal wanted to be the youngest nš1 ever ( Open era ) he should take the first position at the latest on monday 26th February 2007 , because the next entry ranking on 5th of March would be too late.

As far as i know ATP uses the system " years, months , days " to calculate this kind of stats and because of this reason as Hewitt became the youngest nš1 ever when he was 20 years 8 months and 26 days, then Nadal on 26th February 2007 would be 20 years 8 months and 23 days .

But if ATP changed the system and used " number of days since date of birth " , in this case if Nadal reached the nš1 exactly on 26th of February 2007 , then both Lleyton and Rafa would have reached the nš1 with the same number of days , 7573 days ( it's just a curiosity )

Tennis_Passion
11-09-2005, 05:04 PM
lol, that's some curious stat for sure, but it wasnt easy for Lleyton to take over Guga too.

tennisinparis
11-09-2005, 07:11 PM
yes he has a lot of points to defend next year, but how many points does he have to defend at AO, Wimbledon, and US Open? He has a lot of TMS events to defend, but I think he has some room to move up in the grand slam events. but basically that means he has to stay as good as he was this year and improve more, which has yet to be and will be seen. this week in shanghai might give us a little insight though. anyway, i hope he does, just for the point of giving tennis a boost or something new. obviously hewitt and roddick can't do it, so why not someone else.

Nope Nadal will not be no 1. he have ALOT of points to defend next year and im pretty sure that he can't defend them all. Besides others players will start to figure him out and starting to beat him.

jackieglover
11-09-2005, 07:12 PM
Yea, if Roger retires tomorrow.

Galaxystorm
11-09-2005, 07:15 PM
lol, that's some curious stat for sure, but it wasnt easy for Lleyton to take over Guga too.

Lleyton reached the first position on 19th November 2001 with 4365 points, that is less points than Nadal has right now , i just post it as a statistical datum , i don't wanna argue with Hewitt's fans :angel:

Bad Religion
11-09-2005, 08:04 PM
Stupid question , obvious answer


YES , SI , OUI

Go Rafa

jacobhiggins
11-09-2005, 08:57 PM
He might become number 1 but he won't end the year as number 1, Federer is just too good, when Federer retires though, Nadal will most likely be number one!

Peoples
11-09-2005, 09:46 PM
Only in the Race maybe.

connectolove
11-09-2005, 11:30 PM
He has a great chance to be # 1 in 2006, why not?

Berdych will surprise us all as well.

cecilija
11-10-2005, 01:40 AM
:haha: no way fedex will be the king again the next whole year :rocker2:

Ivanatis
11-10-2005, 04:52 AM
He has a great chance to be # 1 in 2006, why not?


because he will hardly get better results 2006 than this year
I mean, he ruled the clay season, almost lost no match, played solid Australian and US Open and even won 2 Masters events on hard court

he won't repeat this

if he's still getting better on HC next year, I'm pretty sure it will have influence on his class on clay (all the great French Open winners lost some strength on clay after their titles, Ferrero, Kuerten, Moya, Agassi, Costa because of different reasons and Gaudio, who had some surprising losses against Ferrer, Haas, Zib in 2005, although I do believe this will not or not yet happen to Nadal, but he won't dominate the clay court season again in such an impressive way like this year)

Federer has possibilities to improve slightly in Melbourne and a lot in Madrid and Canada and is still many points in front

the only chance I see for Nadal to become no. 1 in 2006 is Federer getting injured for a long time

MisterQ
11-10-2005, 04:53 AM
I don't think Nadal can establish himself as a solid #1 while Roger is playing but he certainly CAN be #1 and sooner than many think. An early exit for Roger at the Masters and/or the AO could be enough.

It may very well happen sometime before the clay court season, when Nadal will still have many points left over from this year.

Prior to the clay court season, Roger has to defend:

TMC: Win
Qatar: Win
AO: SF
Rotterdam: Win
Dubai: Win
Indian Wells: Win
Miami: Win

That's a lot of points!!! :eek:

Whereas Rafa has to defend:

Doha: Q
Auckland: 1st round
AO: 4th round
Buenos Aires: Q
Costa Do Sauipe: W
Acapulco: W
Miami: F

Rafa could certainly gain a lot of points.

nkhera1
11-10-2005, 05:26 AM
Yeah Fed has a lot of early points to defend and it depends a lot on the AO and what happens before clay season because its Rafa has no chance after that.

Merton
11-10-2005, 05:44 AM
It is possible, if you look at last 20 years it was usually more than enough to have 5000 points in the entry system to be #1. Roger has been beyond that (slightly less than 7000 recently) but this is an exceptional performance unlikely to be sustained in the long run. For me it doesn't matter, i just want to see Rafa developing and improving his game.

Merton
11-10-2005, 05:47 AM
By the way, for people saying it is impossible to happen during clay season, Roger also has points to defend during clay season. If Rafa defends his points, he might gain ground even if he does not improve his total points in the entry system. Of course, it would take an exceptional performance for Rafa to defend his clay-court season points.

Action Jackson
11-10-2005, 05:48 AM
Nadal won't be playing the clay events in the South American circuit in 2006, and in theory he can do it, but it's far from the most important thing and as Merton said he needs to continue improvement and develop his game.

Tennis_Passion
11-10-2005, 07:27 AM
It may very well happen sometime before the clay court season, when Nadal will still have many points left over from this year.

Prior to the clay court season, Roger has to defend:

TMC: Win
Qatar: Win
AO: SF
Rotterdam: Win
Dubai: Win
Indian Wells: Win
Miami: Win

That's a lot of points!!! :eek:

Well, He already defended his #1 ranking for the year, what's stopping him from doing it again.:). True that 04 #2 Andy Roddick is nowhere near Nadal is in 05, but I dont think the gap between Roger and the rest of the tour is still going to be big next year. I mean, Roger will enter every single tournament listed above as overwhleming favourite, he is gonna be untouchable again next year:).

safdem
11-10-2005, 07:35 AM
i think he will definetely become#1..might not be next year but he will someday

{Annie}
11-10-2005, 08:31 AM
Not until 2007

NYCtennisfan
11-10-2005, 10:24 AM
I don't think Nadal can establish himself as a solid #1 while Roger is playing but he certainly CAN be #1 and sooner than many think. An early exit for Roger at the Masters and/or the AO could be enough.

EXACTLY. Much like the way Muster was #1 for a little bit during Sampras' run but the difference here is that Fed will go into the latter stages of his brilliance just as Nadal will be in his prime so I am sure sooner or later Nadal will be a year end #1.

Duncan
11-10-2005, 10:47 AM
it wont happen, maybe 2007