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Tennis Anti-doping Programme launches off-season initiative: "Whereabouts Pool"

smucav
11-07-2005, 06:38 PM
http://www.itftennis.com/shared/medialibrary/pdf/original/IO_17475_original.PDFTennis Anti-doping Programme launches off-season initiative

The ITF has launched a whereabouts initiative requiring certain athletes to provide daily whereabouts information in order to permit effective no-notice out-of-competition testing during the off-season.

The ‘Whereabouts Pool’ has been designated as the top 30 men and women by ranking as of 12 September, the ranking achieved after the US Open; and the top five men, women and quads on the wheelchair tennis tour by ranking of 10 October, the ranking achieved after the Wheelchair US Open.

The designated players will be required to state where they will be for at least one hour during each day between 21 November and 31 December. This will make the out-of-competition testing much more effective as Doping Control Officers should be able to accurately locate players for no-notice testing, providing an enhanced deterrent to doping. A repeated failure to file information or to be available for testing at the location(s) and times(s)submitted may result in a sanction of a ban between three and 12 months for a first offence and up to two years for second and subsequent offences.

While it is only players in the “Whereabouts Pool” that have to file whereabouts information, all players playing on the ATP or WTA Tour or on the ITF Circuit remain subject at all times to testing under the ITF Tennis Anti-Doping Programme, both in and out of competition.

In other anti-doping news, the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) is holding an international symposium on genedoping at Karolisnka Institutet in Stockholm, Sweden, on 4-5 December 2005. Two press conferences will be held in connection with the symposium, on Saturday 3 December and Monday 5 December, and more details can be found at www.wada-ama.org.

El Legenda
11-07-2005, 06:47 PM
might as well put GPS tracking on the players.

LaTenista
11-07-2005, 06:56 PM
I assume the players don't have to give the location(s) they will be at for all those days before the time period starts. I can just see the amount of faxes they will be receiving from players who take last minute trips, etc. piling up.

Seriously though, drug testing does not take an hour.

LaTenista
11-07-2005, 06:57 PM
might as well put GPS tracking on the players.

That is probably the most brilliant thing you've ever posted.

Angle Queen
11-07-2005, 07:19 PM
I thought the NFL did something similar for their off-season testing (but a quick google didn't pull anything back). As weird and 'Big Brother' as it sounds, I suppose this is the direction many professional sporting authorities are taking. I think they're worried that some drugs will clear the system and that a 'firm' approach might scare someone off.

Not really sure if I'm for it or against it but I'm glad to see them experiment with something to keep the sport as clean as possible. It's not all the players, so I suppose that's not exactly fair, but sometimes, the big boys gotta step up and take the heat.

SwissMister1
11-07-2005, 07:24 PM
I'm sure Lleyton will be thrilled when the doping control doctor comes up to him with a piss tube as he is watching his wife give birth in the hospital.

smucav
12-20-2006, 01:03 AM
http://www.tennis.com/news/ticker.aspxNadal tells DPA that anti-doping tests visited him on Saturday morning when he was still asleep, his 16th or 17th test of the year. He added that anti-doping measures treat athletes "like criminals" and perhaps politicians should be subjected to the same treatment in order to be on the same footing. Nadal said he accepts the anti-doping controls but feels they are "exaggerated" and perhaps athletes should not have allowed things to come this far.

NicoFan
12-20-2006, 01:24 AM
might as well put GPS tracking on the players.

Yup.

This is totally uncalled for.

I can't believe the players will put up with this sh*t.

The ITF needs to get a freaking life. :rolleyes:

Jlee
12-20-2006, 03:05 AM
http://www.tennis.com/news/ticker.aspx

Nadal tells DPA that anti-doping tests visited him on Saturday morning when he was still asleep, his 16th or 17th test of the year. He added that anti-doping measures treat athletes "like criminals" and perhaps politicians should be subjected to the same treatment in order to be on the same footing. Nadal said he accepts the anti-doping controls but feels they are "exaggerated" and perhaps athletes should not have allowed things to come this far.

:lol: Politicians?

marti_228
12-20-2006, 03:16 AM
What happens if the players are on holidays in for example Tahiti?

Fee
12-20-2006, 03:29 AM
Then the entire ITF office staff will volunteer to go get a sample from that player.

Kalliopeia
12-20-2006, 03:39 AM
:lol: Politicians?

Apparently he was actually referring to a particular incident that seems to be getting left out of the versions of that story that are making the rounds, so the reference to politicians sounds completely retarded.

Via
12-20-2006, 05:00 AM
Then the entire ITF office staff will volunteer to go get a sample from that player.
:lol: that would make a great job description
"every week you get to fly into an exotic location somewhere in the world, to meet a top tennis player privately"

the downside is, you will have to take guard of a biological sample on the return trip to civilisation....

Deboogle!.
12-20-2006, 05:28 AM
Perhaps Nadal should get his colleagues to not dope. If they were all not doping, they wouldn't need testing. but there are always one or two (or more) that are going to get away with it, so this is what they have to do.

It's not like tennis or sports are the only places where the measures are drastic. Lots of places treat potential cheating like they're guilty. In law school we can't even go to the bathroom unless we sign out, and we had to fight like hell to be able to have a bottle of water at our feet during the exams (which are sometimes as long as 4 hours.)

These guys make millions, I have no sympathy for them if they get woken up once in a while to make sure they're playing fair.

Actually, right now, I have no sympathy for anyone, so I think it's best I just apologize and shut down my computer :smash: :bolt:

lau
12-20-2006, 05:43 AM
Here are some articles in Spanish with Nadal´s quotes. I can´t translate it right now, but, he doesn´t complain just because they woke him up ;) and when he spoke about making doping tests to politicians was replying to something he was told about (summarizing, ¿unvoluntary doping test? done by Italian tv show 'Le Hiene' to 50 congressmen..., some of them tested positive in cannabis and cocaine) by the interviewer.
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2006/12/19/tenis/1166535609.html
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2006/12/20/deportes/d-07001.htm

MariaV
12-20-2006, 08:30 AM
Gracias, Laura.

cobalt60
12-20-2006, 02:21 PM
Is it me or was the first post posted a year ago;)

Lee
12-20-2006, 04:43 PM
Is it me or was the first post posted a year ago;)

The first post is a year ago but the Nadal post is yesterday.

smucav
12-20-2006, 04:51 PM
The first post is a year ago but the Nadal post is yesterday.Yes and the whereabouts program was renewed for 2006:

http://www.itftennis.com/antidoping/documents/whereabouts.asp
Whereabouts Forms
Please click on the links below to find information on the 2006 Whereabouts Programme and forms which you can complete and submit should you wish to file new whereabouts information.

For 2006, the second year of the Whereabouts programme, the ITF determined that all male and female players ranked in the top 50 (singles) as of 7 August 2006 were in the Whereabouts Pool. However all players, irrespective of their rankings, remain subject to out-of-competition testing at all times (save when competing in a Covered Event). However, players in the Whereabouts Pool have the additional responsibility of providing information about their whereabouts during periods when they are not competing. They can then be tested either at the place(s) and time(s) that they have specified or at any other time or place.

For the first time, the ITF will be using WADA’s online Whereabouts management system ADAMS (Anti-Doping Administration and Management System), which is purpose-built to allow simple data entry and modification. Using the WADA ADAMS you are able to enter your whereabouts information directly in an easy, secure and convenient manner. This is our preferred method for you to input whereabouts information, but we will still accept faxed information.

Please note that the 2006 Whereabouts Programme runs until 31 December 2006.

cobalt60
12-20-2006, 06:11 PM
The first post is a year ago but the Nadal post is yesterday.

Yes I saw that but it is interesting to see folks respond as if it was all new;)

Rosebud
12-21-2006, 02:09 PM
Well, I don't think there is much or any difference in the regulations compared to last year.

Of course it's a nuisance for players like Nadal. But then again he's making millions. And the money he makes from endorsements is to a degree linked to the image of the sport. Perhaps he can lighten his "distress" in thinking he's doing himself a favour in cooperating with ITF in their effort to keep the game as clean as possible.

Frankly, I've a hard time feeling sorry for him.

Sunset of Age
12-21-2006, 05:41 PM
Well, I don't think there is much or any difference in the regulations compared to last year.

Of course it's a nuisance for players like Nadal. But then again he's making millions. And the money he makes from endorsements is to a degree linked to the image of the sport. Perhaps he can lighten his "distress" in thinking he's doing himself a favour in cooperating with ITF in their effort to keep the game as clean as possible.

Frankly, I've a hard time feeling sorry for him.

yeah, I agree. Of course it's a nuisance for him, but he should understand that not everybody's indeed 'clean' - if no-one ever used anything it wouldn't be necessary. We all know it is.
Besides that, the doping tests are just one of those little troubles that come along with playing the game. I'm pretty sure there are more benefits than troubles to playing tennis for him...

jazar
12-21-2006, 07:07 PM
its nothing new, the UCI requires that professional cyclists always tell them where they are gonna be.

alfonsojose
12-21-2006, 08:52 PM
The doping bull is scared :tape:

alfonsojose
12-21-2006, 08:55 PM
He didn't want to be tested after his 2005 AO loss to Hewitt :aplot: Considering the money hhe makes, if he's clean, what's the problem ?

Rosebud
12-21-2006, 09:26 PM
Well, maybe he was hauled out of his bed. I suppose I wouldn't like that either. And I have to admit: due to his cuteness factor, I'd actually rather they'd let him sleep in and snuggle up with his gf during his off days, before making him pee or stick some scary needles into those popcorn arms.