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Berdych - 2006 runner-up Wimbledon threat ?

prima donna
11-07-2005, 02:26 PM
His results thus far are as follows:
Wimbledon, England
Grand Slam, 20-Jun-05, O, Grass , Draw: 128
R128 Dupuis, Antony (FRA ) 96 7-6(5) 7-5 3-6 7-6(4)
R64 Burgsmuller, Lars (GER ) 102 6-3 6-3 6-1
R32 Dent, Taylor (USA ) 29 3-6 6-7(5) 3-6

Now, the question is: What would stop Berdych from being a success on grass ? Nothing, he seems to have a game which is friendly to every surface excluding clay of course and even on clay, he has taken a set from Nadal earlier this season.

The areas he could improve:
His first serve % must increase, when he gets it in it's amazing what he's able to do with that 1-2 punch combination, out-wide and boom, attack with the forehand.

The rest of his game is steady and what makes him tailormade for grass of course, he hits the ball so flat. Roger gave him quite the spanking beating him 1&2 the last time they matched up, but I think that if Tomas is mentally sound and works on his serve, improves his volleys (a lot) that he could cause a disturbance louder than Maria Sharapova's grunts at 2006 Wimbledon, we shall see. :)

This kid is quite the prodigy, what a game, maybe he can dethrone Roddick from his permanent spot as 2nd best grass player in the world. Um, who knows, maybe even give Roger some competition.

Input?

uNIVERSE mAN
11-07-2005, 02:30 PM
Berdy's a threat to win Miss Universe before Wimbledon.

kasgill
11-07-2005, 02:31 PM
berdych plays a bit like sharapova only 50 million times better :joke :bounce: :

prima donna
11-07-2005, 02:31 PM
Berdy's a threat to win Miss Universe before Wimbledon.
Well, a threat to come in 2nd place. Maybe I should change the subject of this thread.

Action Jackson
11-07-2005, 02:32 PM
There are other Slams besides Wimbledon, that is the one where he will struggle the most, he will be like Safin and Ljubo when it comes to grass.

liptea
11-07-2005, 02:32 PM
Berdy's a threat to win Miss Universe before Wimbledon.

nah. You're always going to be ahead of him at Miss Universe. He might win Miss Congeniality.

Deea
11-07-2005, 02:35 PM
Hmmm...so there are other people thinking what I'm thinking? Berdych resembles a bit with Safin!

Deivid23
11-07-2005, 02:36 PM
It looks like Berdych has just started playing last week :lol:

prima donna
11-07-2005, 02:36 PM
There are other Slams besides Wimbledon, that is the one where he will struggle the most, he will be like Safin and Ljubo when it comes to grass.

Safin is resigned to failure on grass, he's taken a set off Roger in Halle and that is his "weakest surface" --- sounds like he's beaten himself by having such a negative approach and Ljubo struggles when it comes to any Grand Slam, excluding 2003 U.S Open ... I didn't know if the guy withdrew because of injury or just didn't show up he was ousted so early.

Berdych may be different, if he will work on volleying skills and harbor more disciplined-aggression.

Deea
11-07-2005, 02:38 PM
That was my first impression of him...and it hasn't left me!

prima donna
11-07-2005, 02:38 PM
It looks like Berdych has just started playing last week :lol:
I think he started playing during the 1st round of Cincinatti. How's that for a laugh?

Action Jackson
11-07-2005, 02:38 PM
It looks like Berdych has just started playing last week :lol:

Bandwagon express departing Paris to Prostejov leaving shortly.

liptea
11-07-2005, 02:40 PM
Bandwagon express departing Paris to Prostejov leaving shortly.

I would like to point out that I get to drive the Bandwagon. Because me and Tomalita have the same birthday.

ginny_legend
11-07-2005, 02:41 PM
he could do it on grass, shame some assholes badmouthing him cus federer didnt play paris, I FUCKING HATE FEDERER!

Action Jackson
11-07-2005, 02:42 PM
I would like to point out that I get to drive the Bandwagon. Because me and Tomalita have the same birthday.

Yes, the cargo stock has been repainted and ready to go and you want to drive the wagon, sure it's done.

Puschkin
11-07-2005, 02:43 PM
It looks like Berdych has just started playing last week :lol:

Certainly not, but I am rather sure he did not have so much TV exposure before.

:topic: That is not true for me, however, I had no tennis since the US Open and will have non till the AO. :devil:

As for the question asked: I consider Joachim Johansson more "dangerous " in Wimbledon, if he is healthy again.

Deivid23
11-07-2005, 02:45 PM
Bandwagon express departing Paris to Prostejov leaving shortly.

:drive:

rofe
11-07-2005, 02:47 PM
He wins a TMS and suddenly he is the best thing since sliced bread? :rolleyes:

He definitely has the game to trouble top players and he has had it for some time now. The one thing lacking is consistency and that is quite hard to achieve. He has serious mental lapses and he still does not have a repetoire of strokes to help him out during tough rallies.

Lets see how he fares in early 2006 before labelling him #2.

Deivid23
11-07-2005, 02:48 PM
Certainly not, but I am rather sure he did not have so much TV exposure before.

:topic: That is not true for me, however, I had no tennis since the US Open and will have non till the AO. :devil:

As for the question asked: I consider Joachim Johansson more "dangerous " in Wimbledon, if he is healthy again.

I know, it´s just the overreaction around, neither Berdych was at a standing still before last week nor he´s next Federer now, he´s been around long time ago

Action Jackson
11-07-2005, 02:48 PM
:drive:

:)

It's not going to be an Inter-City express, all stations.

Action Jackson
11-07-2005, 02:49 PM
Actually to be semi-serious Berdych will struggle with his movement on grass, he can move on clay and the other surfaces, but just cause a player has a big serve doesn't mean they will do well on grass.

It's not like Berdych hasn't been around before, he had a great week, plenty of things need to be worked on.

Dusk Soldier
11-07-2005, 06:03 PM
yeah, if he's in the same half of the draw as Roddick I guess he could get runner-up.

Come on guys, he beat Ljobo at Paris who beat Roddick, so its not that far of a stretch. :rolleyes:

revolution
11-07-2005, 06:44 PM
The serve and forehand suggest he may make an impact on grass. Certainly 3rd round isn't bad so far, he can improve. Certainly his power game should suit this surface, and his screamers aren't coming back on grass, are they?

Horatio Caine
11-07-2005, 06:53 PM
He is dangerous alright, and belongs in the same camp of Dent, Ljubo, Arthurs, Stepanek etc who have never accomplished anything in a Slam...

...you look at that pack and shiver with fear that they'll go far in the tourney and then 2 weeks later you once again roll around on the carpet splitting your sides with laughter at their ineptitude.

Deivid23
11-07-2005, 07:04 PM
He is dangerous alright, and belongs in the same camp of Dent, Ljubo, Arthurs, Stepanek etc who have never accomplished anything in a Slam...

...you look at that pack and shiver with fear that they'll go far in the tourney and then 2 weeks later you once again roll around on the carpet splitting your sides with laughter at their ineptitude.

Comparing Berdych with guys that have been many more years around is not a fair thing to say the least. He will do very good results in Slams soon enough, keep your eyes open ;)

Duncan
11-07-2005, 08:13 PM
He did well but didn't really beat anyone who would also be a threat on grass did he?

Grinder
11-07-2005, 08:32 PM
I wonder if people said Felix Mantilla would win the French Open after he won Rome.

prima donna
11-07-2005, 09:04 PM
Nobody is saying that Tomas can win Wimbledon, Fedex has that fort locked down for the next 5 or so years.

2nd place.

Grass is much different than clay, there isn't a tremendous amount of parity, therefore only 4 or 5 players are really a threat to win the tournament or atleast to contend for it.

But, having a James Blake avatar I would expect this rubbish from you.

adee-gee
11-07-2005, 09:05 PM
Watch out for Ian Flanagan at Wimby in 2006 :rocker2:

prima donna
11-07-2005, 09:13 PM
I consider Berdych to be in the same class as Gasquet and Nadal, last I checked both of them were contending for slams. He's proven that he can win and has beat the Top 2 players in the world, I have no idea why anyone would think for even a second that it's mutually exclusive to compare the possibility of a kid that's shown great potential and beat Roger Federer making noise on a fast surface to that of someone like Ian Flanagan. I mean, that had to be sarcasm. It's people with no imagination that can't fathom these things, if this board had been around in the late 80's and someone had suggested Boris Becker would show up and did what he'd done before he became known I'd imagine that'd be turned into a practical joke as well.

The tour is weak right now, especially on grass, it's not that far of a reach if he could get a few things together.

Fedex
11-07-2005, 09:14 PM
There are other Slams besides Wimbledon, that is the one where he will struggle the most, he will be like Safin and Ljubo when it comes to grass.
I can see what you mean. On paper he should do well on grass, but like Safin he is not comfortable moving on the grass. I haven't seen Ljubicic play on grass, so I dont know why he struggles to win there, but I'm sure his problems are similar to Safin's.
No, I think the fast hardcourts will be Berdych's best surface.

Horatio Caine
11-07-2005, 09:49 PM
Watch out for Ian Flanagan at Wimby in 2006 :rocker2:

:haha: :haha: The Poo will be running scared when he meets him in pre-qualifying ;)

adee-gee
11-07-2005, 09:58 PM
:haha: :haha: The Poo will be running scared when he meets him in pre-qualifying ;)
Flanagan will be seeded by the time Wimbledon comes around :rocker2:

NYCtennisfan
11-07-2005, 10:00 PM
There are other Slams besides Wimbledon, that is the one where he will struggle the most, he will be like Safin and Ljubo when it comes to grass.

Completely agree. Berdman doesn't reach down well for the low bounces so he will have problems even with the newer Wimbledon grass not having as low of a bounce or as much skidding. As it is, on perfectly fair hardcourts, Berdman is quite erratic with his shots and I think he would prove even more erratic on grass with the uneven bounces.

jacobhiggins
11-08-2005, 01:16 AM
He is a very dangerous kid who's not afraid of anybody!

Merton
11-08-2005, 03:40 AM
Tomas looked like deer caught in the headlights against Dent, his movement on grass is not at the same level as his movement on hard or clay. I think he would be a threat on the hard court slams sooner than at Wimby.

Action Jackson
11-08-2005, 07:17 AM
It's people with no imagination that can't fathom these things, if this board had been around in the late 80's and someone had suggested Boris Becker would show up and did what he'd done before he became known I'd imagine that'd be turned into a practical joke as well.

The tour is weak right now, especially on grass, it's not that far of a reach if he could get a few things together.

Becker won Queens 2 weeks before and played a game like no one did before and he could move on grass, Berdych will struggle with that aspect, and wait till he has some big wins on the surface before he can be considered a threat.