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Haas def Nalbandian 6-4 6-3

El Legenda
11-02-2005, 10:14 PM
well these guys losing, really making it easy for Ivan to get his ticket for China

gooner88
11-02-2005, 10:14 PM
See ya in 2006 Nalbo...........

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 10:15 PM
I saw the result on livescore about 20 seconds ago, and why did I have a funny feeling that a) the thread would already have been started, and b) you would be the one responsible...?

Bon chance Ljubo, if only Gaudio could somehow find out how to win consecutive matches indoors as well.

Silawen
11-02-2005, 10:16 PM
Daveeet :sad:

Viken01
11-02-2005, 10:16 PM
nalby :sad:

shotgun
11-02-2005, 10:17 PM
I can't understand these guys. Now that the best players are not playing and they really have a chance to win a TMS event, they cannot even win their first round matches...

El Legenda
11-02-2005, 10:17 PM
I saw the result on livescore about 20 seconds ago, and why did I have a funny feeling that a) the thread would already have been started, and b) you would be the one responsible...?

Bon chance Ljubo, if only Gaudio could somehow find out how to win consecutive matches indoors as well.

You know im the King of starting threads at 30-0 or 40-15 :lol:

Grinder
11-02-2005, 10:17 PM
Now you will have to be a Ginepri fan for a day and root for him to take out Gaudio.

ReturnWinner
11-02-2005, 10:18 PM
:woohoo:

delsa
11-02-2005, 10:19 PM
:sad:

GonzoFan
11-02-2005, 10:19 PM
:eek:

Gonzo first and now Nalby! :eek:
both with great chances of make it to Shangai and they both lose! :eek:
I don't get it :sad: :sad: :sad:

RaVeR
11-02-2005, 10:20 PM
now Ivan must win against Johansson tomorrow!
Good luck Ivan!!

Gaudio must lose!

Rogiman
11-02-2005, 10:21 PM
Quite a dilemma, which one is worse: Frog, or the Nazi Troll's darling...?

Go Ferrer, kick his ass...

case
11-02-2005, 10:21 PM
Now you will have to be a Ginepri fan for a day and root for him to take out Gaudio.


That'll be the day!! No way will i cheer for that jerk!!

Thanks for the vcash Haas. I thought u would win!

jogoss_78
11-02-2005, 10:21 PM
Gonzo then Nalby :bigcry:

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 10:22 PM
Now you will have to be a Ginepri fan for a day and root for him to take out Gaudio.

I will root for both Ljubicic and Gaudio, and may the better man get in (although it would be new territory for Ljubo), but I'll eat my hat if Gaudio can win tomorrow against Ginepri. ;)

GonzoFan
11-02-2005, 10:23 PM
Gonzo then Nalby :bigcry:

I know! this has been the worst day of my life! :sad: :sad:

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 10:24 PM
:eek:

Gonzo first and now Nalby! :eek:
both with great chances of make it to Shangai and they both lose! :eek:
I don't get it :sad: :sad: :sad:

Well, repeat what you just said... it actually makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? Pressure affects players in different ways, although I wonder how much effort Nalbandian was putting in anyway considering the scoreline (I know it's not a complete thrashing, but Haas looked awful last week when he was completely outplayed by Baghdatis and seems to have produced a blinder from somewhere).

star
11-02-2005, 10:26 PM
:woohoo: TOMMY!! :woohoo:

disturb3d
11-02-2005, 10:26 PM
I can't understand these guys. Now that the best players are not playing and they really have a chance to win a TMS event, they cannot even win their first round matches...Easy, they're not good enough.

David, Guille, Mariano, Gaston = Overrated

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 10:27 PM
Overrated, plus loser doper assholes, don't forget.

Just anticipating the arrival of Jogy.

gooner88
11-02-2005, 10:29 PM
Since when has Nalbo been overrated. :retard:

+alonso
11-02-2005, 10:30 PM
So sad for Nalby and Feņa! :sad:

BlackSilver
11-02-2005, 10:30 PM
Well, with one more withdraw, which has reasonable chances to happen, nobody will need to root for Ljubicic or Gaudio

MissMoJo
11-02-2005, 10:30 PM
*sigh I actually thought he'd win a tms event this year :o

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 10:31 PM
So, doesn't that leave the Race looking like this going into tomorrow:

Ljubicic 361
Gaudio 360

A pretty straightforward play-off between the two that comes down to who goes further; and if they both lose tomorrow, which is highly likely considering the returning quality of their opponents, Ljubo sneaks in by virtue of a single, solitary Race point.

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 10:32 PM
Since when has Nalbo been overrated. :retard:

Around 18 times a year apparently, judging by his 2005 win-loss record after tonight.

shotgun
11-02-2005, 10:33 PM
I'd say that the chance of Gaudio beating Ginepri tomorrow is about 10%.

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 10:34 PM
At least this time there'll be no ESPN commentator around to slam Gaudio when he attempts another hot-dog trick shot.

disturb3d
11-02-2005, 10:35 PM
That'll be the day!! No way will i cheer for that jerk!!

Thanks for the vcash Haas. I thought u would win!Robby's one of the nicest guys on tour.
I don't see how you can claim Rob a jerk, when Ljubicic is bad-mouthing other players and threatening to sue the ATP.

tennisinparis
11-02-2005, 10:37 PM
congrats tommy, he needs to start winning something.

as a side note, i want radek stepanek to win this tournament, i know that seems weird and random, but he has not Career singles titles and he made it to the final of this tournament last year and was defeated by a great Safin, so I would just love to see him do it again. weird, but I think it would just be good.

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 10:39 PM
Nothing weird about it, tennisinparis, unless you happen to be a member of the MTF Beauty Trust. I would love Stepanek to go one better than last year, but am already dreading the prospect of him losing all his finalist points at the hands of ball-basher Mathieu tomorrow. I can't see how he's going to beat him.

disturb3d
11-02-2005, 10:40 PM
congrats tommy, he needs to start winning something.

as a side note, i want radek stepanek to win this tournament, i know that seems weird and random, but he has not Career singles titles and he made it to the final of this tournament last year and was defeated by a great Safin, so I would just love to see him do it again. weird, but I think it would just be good.Why is it weird to cheer for Stepanek?

adee-gee
11-02-2005, 10:42 PM
Nothing weird about it, tennisinparis, unless you happen to be a member of the MTF Beauty Trust. I would love Stepanek to go one better than last year, but am already dreading the prospect of him losing all his finalist points at the hands of ball-basher Mathieu tomorrow. I can't see how he's going to beat him.
Oh my god, did you just call PHM a ball-basher :fiery:

Havok
11-02-2005, 10:42 PM
Tommy :banana::banana:. It's about time we start winning and beating highly ranked opponents again :).

On a side note, viva Gaudio make the TMC and not Ivan :p.

Rogiman
11-02-2005, 10:43 PM
Nothing weird about it, tennisinparis, unless you happen to be a member of the MTF Beauty Trust. I would love Stepanek to go one better than last year, but am already dreading the prospect of him losing all his finalist points at the hands of ball-basher Mathieu tomorrow. I can't see how he's going to beat him.
Stepanek is going to rip Mathieu a new one tomorrow and I put my balls on the line.

shotgun
11-02-2005, 10:43 PM
We can't expect anything from Stepanek since his loss against Bjorkman in the Ho Chi Minh tournament final.

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 10:44 PM
Oh my god, did you just call PHM a ball-basher :fiery:

Yes. *adopts bitter Homer Simpson voice* And I'd do it again..

Rogiman
11-02-2005, 10:44 PM
Oh my god, did you just call PHM a ball-basher :fiery:
Adam, he's a ball-basher, and not the only one you like.

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 10:45 PM
Why is it weird to cheer for Stepanek?

We all know how wrong it is to cheer for someone who's uglier than Quasimodo, Frankenstein and the Phantom of the Opera combined.

adee-gee
11-02-2005, 10:47 PM
Yes. *adopts bitter Homer Simpson voice* And I'd do it again..!
Completely disagree. Every shot in the book, one of the most talented guys around, just a few screws short of a toolbox ;)

adee-gee
11-02-2005, 10:47 PM
Adam, he's a ball-basher, and not the only one you like.
Nadal I can understand, but Paulo isn't :(

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 10:47 PM
Stepanek is going to rip Mathieu a new one tomorrow and I put my balls on the line.

Clear as water. The result I mean, not your balls.

uNIVERSE mAN
11-02-2005, 10:48 PM
I will root for both Ljubicic and Gaudio, and may the better man get in (although it would be new territory for Ljubo), but I'll eat my hat if Gaudio can win tomorrow against Ginepri. ;)

The top 7 is rooting for Gaudio too.

Jogy
11-02-2005, 10:49 PM
Yeah Tommy, that's the way to kick them out! Again he total owned Nalbandian like in first match! :drive: :banana:
FINALLY GOOD MATCH FROM HAAS AGAIN! (not good season so far)

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 10:49 PM
Tommy :banana::banana:. It's about time we start winning and beating highly ranked opponents again :).

On a side note, viva Gaudio make the TMC and not Ivan :p.

Naldo, when you adopt a player, it's worth remembering this: a Gato is for life, not just for Shanghai. :cat:

Rogiman
11-02-2005, 10:49 PM
Clear as water. The result I mean, not your balls.
I do believe Radek will squash him.

My balls have not been clear ever since my Bar Mitzva or so.

disturb3d
11-02-2005, 10:50 PM
We all know how wrong it is to cheer for someone who's uglier than Quasimodo, Frankenstein and the Phantom of the Opera combined.True. The majority of tennis fans are middle-aged women who need someone to put down.

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 10:52 PM
Nadal I can understand, but Paulo isn't :(

Huh? Nadal if anything falls into the grinder category (which would be a generalisation, but a far more accurate one than ball-basher). Mathieu is a French indoor monster, just look where his two titles have come. And I don't see these oodles of talent that you and the entire Sky presenting team apparently do. :confused:

Rogiman
11-02-2005, 10:52 PM
True. The majority of tennis fans are middle-aged women who need someone to put down.
Or 13 year old girls, posting in the "what was the last thing you ate" thread.

adee-gee
11-02-2005, 10:54 PM
Huh? Nadal if anything falls into the grinder category (which would be a generalisation, but a far more accurate one than ball-basher). Mathieu is a French indoor monster, just look where his two titles have come. And I don't see these oodles of talent that you and the entire Sky presenting team apparently do. :confused:
:lol: who on sky has been praising him? I've not been seeing too much coverage :sad:

He has every shot in the book. He's a shotmaker, he can play from the baseline off both wings, and he's not too shabby up at the net. He'll be top 20 by the end of next year, mark my words.

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 10:56 PM
Or 13 year old girls, posting in the "what was the last thing you ate" thread.

And don't forget the gay contingent. I've nothing against them, I'd just like to hear one of them say how Radek stirs hidden passions within them.

Deivid23
11-02-2005, 10:58 PM
Well, repeat what you just said... it actually makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? Pressure affects players in different ways, although I wonder how much effort Nalbandian was putting in anyway considering the scoreline (I know it's not a complete thrashing, but Haas looked awful last week when he was completely outplayed by Baghdatis and seems to have produced a blinder from somewhere).

Haas was awful against Baghdatis and worse against Pavel yet won.Today was one of those days when David canīt hit the ball and many of his shots went long or into the net. Haas played pretty well, he outplayed David and was a fully deserved winner. Nalbandian made sth like 30 ues, enough said

Rogiman
11-02-2005, 10:59 PM
And don't forget the gay contingent. I've nothing against them, I'd just like to hear one of them say how Radek stirs hidden passions within them.
Right on, where are all the "Shirtless Stepanek pictures anyone?" threads?

If you're gay be gay all the way.

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 10:59 PM
:lol: who on sky has been praising him? I've not been seeing too much coverage :sad:

He has every shot in the book. He's a shotmaker, he can play from the baseline off both wings, and he's not too shabby up at the net. He'll be top 20 by the end of next year, mark my words.

Well, Barry Cowan in particular, but Bails and the commentators largely concurred. Sam Smith was blatantly biased in Mathieu's favour, the way she kept talking about reeling in Gonzalez and tempting him like you would a child with a toy. There is something of the exuberant kid in Gonzo, admittedly, that's why he's the only power merchant I really like. There are ball-bashers... and there is Gonzo.

Whenever I see him come into the net something dire usually follows, but I can accept that he's made improvements up there. Dunno about this every shot in the book idea, he has a very one-dimensional game to me. But hey, if Kolya and Frog Ferrer can make it to the Top 20, anyone can. :p

Jogy
11-02-2005, 11:00 PM
Overrated, plus loser doper assholes, don't forget.

Just anticipating the arrival of Jogy.
:haha: did Nalbandian test positive? no. I don't call him doper.
Did Canas and Puerta? Yes. They are dopers and bad for the sports if that happen.

tennisinparis
11-02-2005, 11:00 PM
i don't really know, i guess it is just weird, because it seems like something i shouldn't do, because he is not one of my favorites in the tournament. and because i think he is a little bit under these other players. i do not know how to explain it. i just would like him to win his first title there since he did so well last year and didn't get a title out of it.

Why is it weird to cheer for Stepanek?

Deivid23
11-02-2005, 11:01 PM
Nothing weird about it, tennisinparis, unless you happen to be a member of the MTF Beauty Trust. I would love Stepanek to go one better than last year, but am already dreading the prospect of him losing all his finalist points at the hands of ball-basher Mathieu tomorrow. I can't see how he's going to beat him.

Or unless you donīt like jerks on court ;)

adee-gee
11-02-2005, 11:02 PM
Well, Barry Cowan in particular, but Bails and the commentators largely concurred. Sam Smith was blatantly biased in Mathieu's favour, the way she kept talking about reeling in Gonzalez and tempting him like you would a child with a toy. There is something of the exuberant kid in Gonzo, admittedly, that's why he's the only power merchant I really like. There are ball-bashers... and there is Gonzo.

Whenever I see him come into the net something dire usually follows, but I can accept that he's made improvements up there. Dunno about this every shot in the book idea, he has a very one-dimensional game to me. But hey, if Kolya and Frog Ferrer can make it to the Top 20, anyone can. :p
Bazza has good taste! Sam Smith is biased to whoever she fancies more :rolleyes:

Davydenko is a prime example of a ball basher. Mathieu has so much more variety to his game, but Davydenko's head is a lot stronger.

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 11:03 PM
Haas was awful against Baghdatis and worse against Pavel yet won.Today was one of those days when David canīt hit the ball and many of his shots went long or into the net. Haas played pretty well, he outplayed David and was a fully deserved winner. Nalbandian made sth like 30 ues, enough said

Yep, I thought this might be one of Nalbandian's periodic mental holidays. A pity that he shot himself in the foot for Shanghai, but at the end of the day he suffered from the reverse of Ljubicic's problem - great results in the Slams, poor ones everywhere else (except Munich, of course). Madrid was the only time he even made the quarters of a TMS event.

Rogiman
11-02-2005, 11:04 PM
Dunno about this every shot in the book idea, he has a very one-dimensional game to me. Apparently the contemporary book of shots contains something like two shots, highlighted by the double-handed backhand, and 90% of the ATP players have studied the book rather thoroughly.

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 11:04 PM
Or unless you donīt like jerks on court ;)

Which is why I don't criticise you for your anti-Radek stance. :p

tennisinparis
11-02-2005, 11:04 PM
no, it has nothing to do with that, it is just that i think that there are more qualified indoor hardcourt players than him there, who technically should win it. And when I watched him there last year, I couldn't see his face, I guess I am one to just go for the underdog a little bit, and I think he fits that. I don't know, dang, I shouldn't have said anything.

Nothing weird about it, tennisinparis, unless you happen to be a member of the MTF Beauty Trust. I would love Stepanek to go one better than last year, but am already dreading the prospect of him losing all his finalist points at the hands of ball-basher Mathieu tomorrow. I can't see how he's going to beat him.

Havok
11-02-2005, 11:06 PM
Naldo, when you adopt a player, it's worth remembering this: a Gato is for life, not just for Shanghai. :cat:
:haha:
Anyways, PHM is a pure ball-basher. You only need to watch the kid once to realize it. Talented, yes, but not one of the top15/20 most talented on tour.

disturb3d
11-02-2005, 11:07 PM
:haha: did Nalbandian test positive? no. I don't call him doper.
Did Canas and Puerta? Yes. They are dopers and bad for the sports if that happen.Silly, silly boy.

Half of the players in the top 100 are using performance-enhancement drugs.
And you can bet that every player in the top 20 is sippin' on daddy's cough medicine.

It's your fame and ability to evade drug-tests that pulls superstars like Andre through unscarred.

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 11:07 PM
Bazza has good taste! Sam Smith is biased to whoever she fancies more :rolleyes:

Davydenko is a prime example of a ball basher. Mathieu has so much more variety to his game, but Davydenko's head is a lot stronger.

To me they're both one and the same, although Davydenko's strokes are rather more compact. And of course, as you say the mental difference is huge. I don't have nearly as much against Mathieu as I did this time three years ago, when he was winning those back-to-back titles and behaving in a horribly obnoxious fashion while doing it. I like to think that DC defeat knocked him down a peg or two, there he was hitting winners and thumping his chest for two sets against Youzhny and then he realised that he's as mortal and vulnerable as anyone else out there. His attitude is rather more tolerable now, but the game still puts me off.

Deivid23
11-02-2005, 11:08 PM
Nothing weird about it, tennisinparis, unless you happen to be a member of the MTF Beauty Trust. I would love Stepanek to go one better than last year, but am already dreading the prospect of him losing all his finalist points at the hands of ball-basher Mathieu tomorrow. I can't see how he's going to beat him.

:shrug:

Imo Stepanek is a clear favourite to win tomorrow

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 11:09 PM
Apparently the contemporary book of shots contains something like two shots, highlighted by the double-handed backhand, and 90% of the ATP players have studied the book rather thoroughly.

Ooh, but don't forget his patented "dropshot into middle of court followed by fortunate lunging volley"! That combination is the sure sign of a man with talent oozing from every pore.

alexito
11-02-2005, 11:10 PM
nalbandian coria lost :)

Rogiman
11-02-2005, 11:10 PM
Ooh, but don't forget his patented "dropshot into middle of court followed by fortunate lunging volley"! That combination is the sure sign of a man with talent oozing from every pore.
A mark of a true great.

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 11:12 PM
:shrug:

Imo Stepanek is a clear favourite to win tomorrow

Well, the surface is a good one for him to slice and mix-up the pace and deceive Mathieu, but I just don't see how he can outrally him from the baseline on the latter's serve. Mathieu does know how to hit a forehand and backhand, even if he can only do it one way, whereas Radek doesn't know how to hit any kind of forehand at all.

TennisLurker
11-02-2005, 11:14 PM
ferrer all the way

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 11:16 PM
I must say Lurker, it's a mark of your dislike for Haas that you of all people are willing to support Ferrer tomorrow. Did Rome and RG slip off the radar so quickly?

Mind you, I'm undecided on who to support as well.

Fergie
11-02-2005, 11:17 PM
Thanks Tommy! ;)

*julie*
11-02-2005, 11:21 PM
I don't have nearly as much against Mathieu as I did this time three years ago, when he was winning those back-to-back titles and behaving in a horribly obnoxious fashion while doing it.

Could you develop please. I have never seen any obnoxious attitude from him. :confused:
Unless, I don't really get the meaning of obnoxious...

tennisinparis
11-02-2005, 11:22 PM
okay, so maybe i am a little ignorant on the matter of Tommy Haas and all, but can someone who dislikes him tell me why you dislike him? please don't barrage(sp?) me on this, I just am wondering.

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 11:25 PM
okay, so maybe i am a little ignorant on the matter of Tommy Haas and all, but can someone who dislikes him tell me why you dislike him? please don't barrage(sp?) me on this, I just am wondering.

Temper tantrums that are so theatrical they seem staged and artificial to me, a whinging negative attitude, a pretty dull game that usually involves him blasting balls from way behind the baseline with no obvious effect... though I will admit the backhand is a class shot.

I'm afraid I was dead set against him after I saw him lose 7-6 in the third to Karlovic in Rome last year, then slowly walk up to the service box to try and find a non-existent mark showing that the serve had been out, while Karlovic waited in disbelief at the net, shaking his head.

tennisinparis
11-02-2005, 11:32 PM
Okay, just wondering. I just became a fan of his last year at Paris, didn't really know him or his style before that. I can understand that and agree that happens. I just think he is talented and wasting it, honestly. It just seems sometimes he really doesn't care about tennis. I just want to slap him and say, will you please play like you care.

Temper tantrums that are so theatrical they seem staged and artificial to me, a whinging negative attitude, a pretty dull game that usually involves him blasting balls from way behind the baseline with no obvious effect... though I will admit the backhand is a class shot.

I'm afraid I was dead set against him after I saw him lose 7-6 in the third to Karlovic in Rome last year, then slowly walk up to the service box to try and find a non-existent mark showing that the serve had been out, while Karlovic waited in disbelief at the net, shaking his head.

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 11:50 PM
I have got into many an argument with Jogy by suggesting that Haas was an undeserving world no. 2 back in 2002, but he certainly missed the boat at that year's AO (by far his best Slam) when he had Safin two sets to one down and then totally collapsed in the last two sets. And before too long the injuries arrived, but in hindsight I still feel he was a bit of a millionaire's player, a lot of flash and promise but not much substance to his game. You see him get into a rut trading groundstrokes with another, more consistent baseliner and think that a really talented top player would mix up the play, try to end the point decisively or throw the opponent off balance - just do something different, and Haas to me doesn't have that something.

enqvistfan
11-02-2005, 11:55 PM
I've just came back from the match. Congrats Tommy :yeah:
Nalbandian didn't exist during this match.

Rogiman
11-02-2005, 11:56 PM
Well, no question he's by far the worst player to have reached world #2.

mangoes
11-03-2005, 12:01 AM
Sorry for Nalby :sad:

revolution
11-03-2005, 12:37 AM
I bet Jogy liked this result :p

jole
11-03-2005, 12:57 AM
Good win Tommy. :D

Federerhingis
11-03-2005, 01:01 AM
Good win Tommy. :D


And quite a surprise, I was expecting Nalbi to win. It looks quite convincing by the score.

sigmagirl91
11-03-2005, 01:10 AM
Congrats, Tommy. Beat Ferrer tomorrow.

NyGeL
11-03-2005, 01:29 AM
can't belive it... nalby upsets :(

now Gaudio must get the 8th spot for Shangai, go gaston!!! (doesn't matter i hate you!)

tangerine_dream
11-03-2005, 01:33 AM
Finally, a decent win for Tommy :banana:

NYCtennisfan
11-03-2005, 02:31 AM
Originally Posted by case
That'll be the day!! No way will i cheer for that jerk!!

You've never talked to him or seen him at an event I take it.

RickDaStick
11-03-2005, 02:32 AM
can't belive it... nalby upsets :(

now Gaudio must get the 8th spot for Shangai, go gaston!!! (doesn't matter i hate you!)

No chance for Gaudio as he is 1 pt behind Ivan and he will surely lose to Ginepri.

bad gambler
11-03-2005, 02:33 AM
bandy :rolleyes:

NYCtennisfan
11-03-2005, 02:34 AM
I have got into many an argument with Jogy by suggesting that Haas was an undeserving world no. 2 back in 2002,

Nobody is ever an undeserving # whatever unless they have numerous matches handed via walkovers or defaults. They may be overrated due to other players' problems but they deserve whatever ranking they get by winning matches. No doubt that Haas was a "weak" #2 but he deserved it that year.

Sjengster
11-03-2005, 02:36 AM
I've said that myself in the past about other players, so you're right - weak is a far more appropriate term. As far as I know, he's the only player ever to be ranked no. 2 in the world who's failed to reach so much as one Slam final, let alone win a Slam (and moreover, only reached 2 Slam semis).

name_change
11-03-2005, 02:36 AM
naldy was horrendous today!his forehand was non-existant, bh was ok, but tommy's was MUCH better, and the serve, well, the less said about that the better.

NYCtennisfan
11-03-2005, 02:48 AM
I've said that myself in the past about other players, so you're right - weak is a far more appropriate term. As far as I know, he's the only player ever to be ranked no. 2 in the world who's failed to reach so much as one Slam final, let alone win a Slam (and moreover, only reached 2 Slam semis)

He was in the right place at the right time, but I thought he had so much potential. It just never worked out for him.

silverwhite
11-03-2005, 04:12 AM
Nalby :bigcry:

Björki
11-03-2005, 06:58 AM
Nalby :(

I♥PsY@Mus!c
11-03-2005, 09:41 AM
Tommy you help Ivan and my bets too,thanks! :kiss:

User id 7816
11-03-2005, 09:52 AM
nice moment to play a crappy match, David.

landoud
11-03-2005, 10:01 AM
nooooooo i wanted nalby to go :sad: :sad:

Neely
11-03-2005, 10:18 AM
Wow, that's a surprise Tommy! :)
By beating somebody highranked like Nalbandian, that was his 2nd best result this year after beating Gaudio in straight sets before on clay.

Nobody is ever an undeserving # whatever unless they have numerous matches handed via walkovers or defaults. They may be overrated due to other players' problems but they deserve whatever ranking they get by winning matches. No doubt that Haas was a "weak" #2 but he deserved it that year.
Exactly :yeah: Haas was clearly the 2nd best player that stretch and deserved it because there was only one better player that time. Haas performed from indoor season 2001 until he got injured in 2002. That's good enough and other prominent names couldn't do the same.

Frooty_Bazooty
11-03-2005, 10:20 AM
Oh Nalby, what the hell happened???????? :sad:

Rogiman
11-03-2005, 12:56 PM
It's somewhat worth mentioning that Haas got murdered by Agassi 6:3 6:3 6:0 in the Rome final the day after he clinched #2, so that's only one instance of a player who was much better than Hass yet was (for a short period of time, indeed) ranked lower.

Just to make it clear that this:
Exactly :yeah: Haas was clearly the 2nd best player that stretch and deserved it because there was only one better player that time.
is just science fiction.

Neely
11-03-2005, 03:23 PM
Rogiman, I don't say that Haas was the 2nd best player at EVERY SINGLE day of 2002. To make it very clear: what I'm saying is that Haas accumulated more points to his ranking in that stretch than every other player except Hewitt, that's why he became #2 of that time; results and rankings don't lie and he deserved that like everybody else before or after him. No matter if you find this or that example of him losing to sombody ranked lower, that's why it's a 12 month ranking. N
Good try though, it sounded almost reasonable :yeah: :lol: