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Federer optimistic for Shanghai

nobama
10-30-2005, 01:59 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/4390500.stm

Roger Federer is optimistic he will be fit to play in the season-ending Masters Cup in a fortnight as he recovers from a torn ankle ligament.

The world number one was on crutches for two weeks after sustaining the injury in training earlier this month.

"I'm walking now," he said. "I'm taping the ankle a lot, but that helps me to put weight on it.

"I'm optimistic, but it's hard to tell. Shanghai means everything. That's what I'm working on right now, I'm hopeful."

Federer is among several qualifiers struggling to be fit for the event starting on 13 November.

Marat Safin has already been ruled out with knee problems, Andre Agassi has been inactive since losing the US Open final to Federer while Lleyton Hewitt could miss it to attend the birth of his first child.

oneandonlyhsn
10-30-2005, 02:00 PM
Finally some good news straight from Rogi, get well soon Rogi its too boring right now without you :sad:

R.Federer
10-30-2005, 02:03 PM
Get well quickly Roge!

nobama
10-30-2005, 02:21 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/jsnash/rf_swiss.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/jsnash/rf_swiss1.jpg

Roos
10-30-2005, 02:25 PM
they showed that in basel on eurosport. between the first and the second set of the final. he said he hoped to be fit for shanghai, but he counted on it. atleast, that is how I remember.

mangoes
10-30-2005, 02:31 PM
I just don't think Roger will be ready.

I think Andre might make an appearance, but if Lleyton's child is due, then I wouldn't even expect him to be there. The birth of his child is a moment he shouldn't miss.

nobama
10-30-2005, 02:32 PM
My foot is finally feeling a little better and I've been off crutches for almost a week now, Federer told crowd before the final of the Swiss Indoor tournament on Sunday. The countdown is obviously running with just two weeks to go until Shanghai but I hope it works out.

mangoes
10-30-2005, 02:34 PM
Mirkaland, where are those pics from?

wcr
10-30-2005, 02:37 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/4390500.stm

Roger Federer is optimistic he will be fit to play in the season-ending Masters Cup in a fortnight as he recovers from a torn ankle ligament.

The world number one was on crutches for two weeks after sustaining the injury in training earlier this month.

"I'm walking now," he said. "I'm taping the ankle a lot, but that helps me to put weight on it.

"I'm optimistic, but it's hard to tell. Shanghai means everything. That's what I'm working on right now, I'm hopeful."

Federer is among several qualifiers struggling to be fit for the event starting on 13 November.

Marat Safin has already been ruled out with knee problems, Andre Agassi has been inactive since losing the US Open final to Federer while Lleyton Hewitt could miss it to attend the birth of his first child.

Given the great medical expertise Roger has around him, and that he was crutches for 2 weeks following the injury, I don't see how he'll recover in time to play that event.

I had a 2nd degree sprain on my right foot from a tennis mishap. I was on crutches for 2-1/2 days (over a weekend) until I could see my ortho-surgeon. I went directly from his office to a physical therapist's office and started rehabilitation work on day 3. From that moment, I was able to walk without crutches and pain. It took another 10 days for the swelling to come down so that both ankles matched in size. Until the swelling was down, I was not allowed on a tennis court and, even then, all I was allowed to do was stand in one place and hit forehands. No movement whatsoever. It was 6 weeks before I was able to resume play and had to tape my foot and wear a protective brace (you see these on Roddick's and Hewitt's feet).

If Roger's recovery (2 weeks on crutches) is slower than mine, he won't be playing Shanghai unless some phsyician in Switzerland has invented some spectacular miracle cure.

nobama
10-30-2005, 02:40 PM
Mirkaland, where are those pics from?The tournament in Basel. Roger was given a trophy for being named Laureus Sportsman of the Year back in May. I guess he will be there to hand out the trophy to whoever wins today.

mangoes
10-30-2005, 02:40 PM
Given the great medical expertise Roger has around him, and that he was crutches for 2 weeks following the injury, I don't see how he'll recover in time to play that event.

I had a 2nd degree sprain on my right foot from a tennis mishap. I was on crutches for 2-1/2 days (over a weekend) until I could see my ortho-surgeon. I went directly from his office to a physical therapist's office and started rehabilitation work on day 3. From that moment, I was able to walk without crutches and pain. It took another 10 days for the swelling to come down so that both ankles matched in size. Until the swelling was down, I was not allowed on a tennis court and, even then, all I was allowed to do was stand in one place and hit forehands. No movement whatsoever. It was 6 weeks before I was able to resume play and had to tape my foot and wear a protective brace (you see these on Roddick's and Hewitt's feet).

If Roger's recovery (2 weeks on crutches) is slower than mine, he won't be playing Shanghai unless some phsyician in Switzerland has invented some spectacular miracle cure.

I agree. I was thinking the same thing, that's why, I just don't see Roger going to Shanghai.

mangoes
10-30-2005, 02:41 PM
The tournament in Basel. Roger was given a trophy for being named Laureus Sportsman of the Year back in May. I guess he will be there to hand out the trophy to whoever wins today.

Oh nice...............thanks. He really looks very nice.

nobama
10-30-2005, 02:42 PM
Well he said he's optimistic, but that doesn't mean it's a for sure thing. If he gets on a tennis court and the footwork isn't there and he's still feeling pain he'll pull out no matter how much he wants to play.

star
10-30-2005, 02:45 PM
On a serious note, I hope Roger does what's best for his health. It's got to be a tremendous temptation to push it to play Shanghai particularly since I'm sure he thinks he can beat his opponents there even if he isn't playing at 100%.

On a non-serious note: Is Fed trying to take the place Johnny Cash vacated?? :lol:

wcr
10-30-2005, 02:47 PM
Well he said he's optimistic, but that doesn't mean it's a for sure thing. If he gets on a tennis court and the footwork isn't there and he's still feeling pain he'll pull out no matter how much he wants to play.

"Optimistic" is Roger trying to breath some life into his disappointed fans. He's probably trying to figure out if he needs surgery and that could set him back beyond the AO if it's true and he doesn't do it right away.

The fact that he was on crutches for 2 weeks says it all to me.

I'd love to hear the specifics about the injury. Exactly how it happened. Ankles just don't roll over and snap without strange provocation. Were his ankles weak, he would have had warning signs.

I hope I'm wrong.

nobama
10-30-2005, 02:56 PM
It's pointless for us to speculate not knowing the specifics. But he'll have to make a decision soon as TMC is only a couple weeks away.

JuanRodriguez
10-30-2005, 03:05 PM
lookin' forward to see Roger play again! :yeah:

wcr
10-30-2005, 03:09 PM
It's pointless for us to speculate not knowing the specifics. But he'll have to make a decision soon as TMC is only a couple weeks away.

Roger had an opportunity to break a lot of historic records this indoor season. (See other theads where they are noted.) The "specifics" are what kept that from happening and I, for one, would like to hear what they are some day.

nobama
10-30-2005, 03:13 PM
Well I just hope he's not giving his fans false hope. Saying he's "optimistic" when he knows it's not possible. I hope that's not the case. He's supposed to be on some Swiss sports program tonight so maybe he'll say more then.

star
10-30-2005, 03:17 PM
I think it's in the nature of top athletes to be optimistic. That's what keeps them working toward lofty goals. They have the belief they can do it -- optimism.

I too would like to know the specifics of the injury. Federer's camp is keeping pretty quiet about the cause and the exact nature of the injury.

Corey Feldman
10-30-2005, 03:37 PM
I'll believe it when i see it...
i doubt he'll play, and even if he did... how safe, stupid or match sharp could he be..

dissapointing times.

avocadoe
10-30-2005, 03:49 PM
I am glad he is feeling a lot better, but he'll be carefully assessing each step :) I am boed out of a huge section of my mind with him away but have no interest in him further hurting himself, or putting next year further in question. It's a darn shame it happened.

Johnny Cash, another good looking man who looked great in black :)

avocadoe
10-30-2005, 03:50 PM
put an "R" in boed between the 'o' and the 'e', thanks

ExpectedWinner
10-30-2005, 03:58 PM
he thinks he can beat his opponents there even if he isn't playing at 100%.



Probably, he can beat some players with less than 100% game, but he can't compete with less than 95-100% fitness. It just doesn't work on this level.

tennischick
10-30-2005, 04:00 PM
it's only 2 weeks away. :worried:

nobama
10-30-2005, 04:05 PM
Well at least he's walking with out crutches and wearing normal shoes...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/tenniseva/Roger/2005-10-30T145259Z_01_BAS02D_RTRIDS.jpg

tennischick
10-30-2005, 04:23 PM
and looking extremely hot :inlove: :hearts:

Chris Seahorse
10-30-2005, 05:02 PM
"Optimistic" is Roger trying to breath some life into his disappointed fans. He's probably trying to figure out if he needs surgery and that could set him back beyond the AO if it's true and he doesn't do it right away.

The fact that he was on crutches for 2 weeks says it all to me.

I'd love to hear the specifics about the injury. Exactly how it happened. Ankles just don't roll over and snap without strange provocation. Were his ankles weak, he would have had warning signs.

I hope I'm wrong.

Actually sometimes they do just roll over and snap Chesnokov, Stich, Groenefeld being some of the more unpleasant cases I can recall. An unfortunate slip and any athelete is vunerable.

Mrs. B
10-30-2005, 05:29 PM
The tournament in Basel. Roger was given a trophy for being named Laureus Sportsman of the Year back in May. I guess he will be there to hand out the trophy to whoever wins today.

no, he didn't even stay and watch the finals.
Had to drive to Zürich for the tv guesting.
He looked great and Mirka & Reto were there, he was also given a standing ovation as he walked into the studio.

Roger was asked to name his 3 favorite shots this year, 3rd place was the one against Suzuki at the AO where he flicks a ball around the net that goes to the baseline, 2nd was the volley shot against Nadal in RG where he was like a wall, and 1st was the shot he played against Agassi in Dubai where Andre makes a drop shot, he hardly gets it, Andre volleys to the open court but Roger was there and hits a reflex bh but he was facing the baseline, the ball goes over Agassi's head and lands on the baseline. He smiles in disbelief, while Andre was already walking to the chair.
i'm sure the Fed fans remember that shot! ;)

nobama
10-30-2005, 06:04 PM
Someone on rf.com posted that Roger said today he for sure will go to Shanghai and decide there whether he can participate or not.

1sun
10-30-2005, 06:09 PM
he better not play if hes not 100%. he cannot afford any stupid mistakes while he is in the prime of his career. i hope hes seen what safins done to himself and doesnt follow the same path. just make sure your fit and healthy and 100% go for the aussie open which is far more important than the mc.

peteslamz
10-30-2005, 06:15 PM
he better not play if hes not 100%. he cannot afford any stupid mistakes while he is in the prime of his career. i hope hes seen what safins done to himself and doesnt follow the same path. just make sure your fit and healthy and 100% go for the aussie open which is far more important than the mc.


I agree with you. I think his injury is not just an "ordinary" injury at all. He should not force himself to defend his title if his not fully fit, he is just putting his health at stake.

case
10-30-2005, 06:28 PM
At the risk of being red dotted. I question all these injuries leading up to Shanghai. Any bets Federer shows up, plays, and wins. Agassi, Nadal will show up to and play like they were never injured-just rested. Hewitt is also probable to me.

nobama
10-30-2005, 06:51 PM
he better not play if hes not 100%. he cannot afford any stupid mistakes while he is in the prime of his career. i hope hes seen what safins done to himself and doesnt follow the same path. just make sure your fit and healthy and 100% go for the aussie open which is far more important than the mc.Don't you think Rogelio knows that? He's not stupid. Remember, he withdrew from the Canada masters when he had points to defend and his YE #1 status was still up in the air. He said on Swiss TV today that he'll go to Shanghai and see how it is and if he can't play then he'll have an extended holiday.

star
10-30-2005, 06:56 PM
Mirkaland, I don't think 1sun was giving advice to Roger (who I'm sure he knows doesn't read this board), but rather speaking to the other posters here.

tangerine_dream
10-30-2005, 07:08 PM
he better not play if hes not 100%. he cannot afford any stupid mistakes while he is in the prime of his career. i hope hes seen what safins done to himself and doesnt follow the same path. just make sure your fit and healthy and 100% go for the aussie open which is far more important than the mc.
If Roger doesn't win Shanghai then his USO title won't mean shit. :p ;) :lol:

nobama
10-30-2005, 07:35 PM
If Roger doesn't win Shanghai then his USO title won't mean shit. :p ;) :lol:It's a GS title, why wouldn't it matter? :scratch:

tangerine_dream
10-30-2005, 07:41 PM
It's a GS title, why wouldn't it matter? :scratch:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=2594642&postcount=58

;)

nobama
10-30-2005, 08:41 PM
Video of Roger live on Swiss TV tonight. Talks about Shanghai. All in German of course.

http://real.xobix.ch/ramgen/sfdrs/vod/sport/450k/sport_20051030_185307_friklo.rm

http://real.xobix.ch/ramgen/sfdrs/vod/sport/450k/sport_20051030_185655_Federer2.rm

nobama
10-30-2005, 08:42 PM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=2594642&postcount=58

;)Yeah, well Lyon doesn't mean shit, compared to the US Open. ;)

KoOlMaNsEaN
10-30-2005, 09:02 PM
I would only play if I was healthy enough to win it. Don't wanna ruin the reputation of the year with a bad performance in shanghai

RonE
10-30-2005, 09:21 PM
Well, even if he doesn't play in Shanghai at least it seems on the surface that his injury is not as bad as previously believed. Worst case scenario I hope is he withdraws from Shanghai rests, let it heal all the way then works his ass off comes down to Australia in early January 100% fit and ready to go.

RickDaStick
10-30-2005, 09:26 PM
Come on Fed,Marat, Lleyton you should all take a break and not risk further injury, stay away from Shangai :)

Castafiore
10-30-2005, 09:28 PM
Video of Roger live on Swiss TV tonight. Talks about Shanghai. All in German of course.

http://real.xobix.ch/ramgen/sfdrs/vod/sport/450k/sport_20051030_185307_friklo.rm

http://real.xobix.ch/ramgen/sfdrs/vod/sport/450k/sport_20051030_185655_Federer2.rm
Thanks for that link.

Sorry to all the Swiss Gemans (or is it German Swiss :scratch: ) but yuck, I hate listening to Swiss German. The accent is UGLY (to my ears anyway) :o

AgassiDomination
10-30-2005, 09:48 PM
Come on Fed,Marat, Lleyton you should all take a break and not risk further injury, stay away from Shangai :)


But I'm looking forward for that tourney, and it willi suck so much without Marat and Lleyton! :sad:

Federerhingis
10-30-2005, 10:06 PM
Don't you think Rogelio knows that? He's not stupid. Remember, he withdrew from the Canada masters when he had points to defend and his YE #1 status was still up in the air. He said on Swiss TV today that he'll go to Shanghai and see how it is and if he can't play then he'll have an extended holiday.

Thats more or less what I was thinking after reading the post, hes no fool and tennis is much too important to him to fool around with his career.

nobama
10-30-2005, 10:52 PM
Thanks for that link.

Sorry to all the Swiss Gemans (or is it German Swiss :scratch: ) but yuck, I hate listening to Swiss German. The accent is UGLY (to my ears anyway) :oHey at least you can understand it. It's just gibberish to me. :lol:

Federerhingis
10-30-2005, 11:15 PM
Hey at least you can understand it. It's just gibberish to me. :lol:


Oh God when my paternal grandma and my dad start arguing in swiss german I know something bad is cooking up. All I know is that when I sort of hear chnopf and chabis stringed together in a sentence, shes scolding him for something. :lol:

star
10-31-2005, 12:36 AM
Thanks for that link.

Sorry to all the Swiss Gemans (or is it German Swiss :scratch: ) but yuck, I hate listening to Swiss German. The accent is UGLY (to my ears anyway) :o


No worse than Bavarian. :p

Oriental_Rain
10-31-2005, 03:06 AM
good news for all feds fan :woohoo:

landoud
10-31-2005, 05:55 AM
i hope he could make it to shanghi

nobama
10-31-2005, 11:19 AM
Posted on http://www.rogerfederer.com

Dear Fans

I would like to inform you that I feel a lot better. I am extremely glad to be walking again normally and even jogging gently after having been on crutches for two weeks.

At first I was really concerned about being fit again for Shanghai. After making some promising progress these last days I am happy to say that I am a lot more positive about my participation at the Masters Cup. I will be hitting balls again these coming days –which is great news since I haven’t been able to play tennis for almost a month now!

What I can say today is that I will definitely be travelling to Shanghai. I’ll just enjoy the time there as a spectator in case my injury should still be bothering me then. But in the meantime I will most certainly do all I can to get back into shape to defend my title in Shanghai. The tournament is, after all, one of my most important goals this year and the perfect event to finish a great season.

Kind regards
Roger

Bertuska
10-31-2005, 11:29 AM
I'm optimistic too.
I hope to see Roger playing in Shangai, without him the Master will not be the same.

1sun
10-31-2005, 11:41 AM
even if roger does play, he will have no match practise hardly any practise court time and poor match fitness. if no one beats him then god help the rest of the tour

nobama
10-31-2005, 01:33 PM
even if roger does play, he will have no match practise hardly any practise court time and poor match fitness. if no one beats him then god help the rest of the tourWell last year he didn't play Madrid, Basel or Paris and still won TMC Houston, so it is possible. He'll know through practice whether he can compete or not. And if he's really sucking in practice (regardless of how his foot feels) I can't see him playing.

star
10-31-2005, 01:46 PM
Or maybe he is playing possum. :)

Federerhingis
10-31-2005, 05:14 PM
I'm optimistic too.
I hope to see Roger playing in Shangai, without him the Master will not be the same.

This is so true, its not the same without him. I love it how everyone guns after him and hes yet to lose a match at the masters cup.(since Shangai 2002, where he lost in the semis to defending champ Hewitt in two really tight sets.) They always give him the worst draws too.

Federerhingis
10-31-2005, 05:15 PM
even if roger does play, he will have no match practise hardly any practise court time and poor match fitness. if no one beats him then god help the rest of the tour

Well he took six weeks off after wimby and was playing quite terribly at Cincinatti and still won that tournie. So.........

nobama
10-31-2005, 06:11 PM
Well he took six weeks off after wimby and was playing quite terribly at Cincinatti and still won that tournie. So.........That was absolutely no fun to watch though. The final was OK, but the other matches were quite painful. I'd rather him not play, than play and suck. At least Kiefer won't be there (the one player he's dropped a set two three times in a row this year).

1sun
10-31-2005, 07:41 PM
but this time wil be different because he hasnt even set a foot on a practise court and its less than 2 weeks b4 the tourny starts. the previous times at least he could practise whereas this time he will have next to no time on a practise court.

Federerhingis
10-31-2005, 08:10 PM
That was absolutely no fun to watch though. The final was OK, but the other matches were quite painful. I'd rather him not play, than play and suck. At least Kiefer won't be there (the one player he's dropped a set two three times in a row this year).


Arrrrrrrrrrrhg Kiefer gives me heart attacks whenever he plays Federer, Sheesh why cant he play like that when he makes finals of tournies against lower ranked players. Like how many finals has he lost consecutively?

Balaenopteramusculus
11-02-2005, 08:39 PM
Arrrrrrrrrrrhg Kiefer gives me heart attacks whenever he plays Federer, Sheesh why cant he play like that when he makes finals of tournies against lower ranked players. Like how many finals has he lost consecutively?
9 and counting. :p

Sjengster
11-02-2005, 08:45 PM
Arrrrrrrrrrrhg Kiefer gives me heart attacks whenever he plays Federer, Sheesh why cant he play like that when he makes finals of tournies against lower ranked players. Like how many finals has he lost consecutively?

You're thinking of his level of play when he's troubling Federer midway through their matches. Look at it by the end of the match, or at any real clutch moment towards the end of a set, and you'll find something a good deal closer to the level of play he brings to finals - ie, tight errors and sudden, inexplicable mental collapses.

To me, this is the odd dichotomy in the Federer-Kiefer matches - it's Kiefer's unpredictability and wildly oscillating level of play that makes Federer so nervous and tentative, almost a shadow of his normal self, but equally it's that same up and down level of performance that condemns Kiefer to losing in the end, because he can't sustain the focus needed to close out a tough match whereas Federer can scrape by largely on mental toughness. I must say, I never thought I'd be typing that last sentence a couple of years ago.

RogiFan88
11-02-2005, 10:19 PM
You're thinking of his level of play when he's troubling Federer midway through their matches. Look at it by the end of the match, or at any real clutch moment towards the end of a set, and you'll find something a good deal closer to the level of play he brings to finals - ie, tight errors and sudden, inexplicable mental collapses.

To me, this is the odd dichotomy in the Federer-Kiefer matches - it's Kiefer's unpredictability and wildly oscillating level of play that makes Federer so nervous and tentative, almost a shadow of his normal self, but equally it's that same up and down level of performance that condemns Kiefer to losing in the end, because he can't sustain the focus needed to close out a tough match whereas Federer can scrape by largely on mental toughness. I must say, I never thought I'd be typing that last sentence a couple of years ago.

Sjengst, you forgot to factor in Kiwi's inexplicable jumping jacks. :p

MissMoJo
11-03-2005, 03:11 PM
:bounce: Roger says he will play shanghai
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=tennisNews&storyID=URI:urn:newsml:reuters.com:20051103:MTFH98 160_2005-11-03_15-31-14_L03439082:1