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Australia V West Indies - Test Series betting - Official thread!

Bolar Bolabi
10-30-2005, 07:43 AM
We'll have this as the official thread for the 3 test series - Australia V West Indies at the Gabba, Bellrieve and the Adelaide Oval.

Before we have a look at bets, I've done some research. I will be putting some $$$$ on West Indies to win this first test and also win the series. I'll finalise the play later on in the week, but I'll have a look at this.

This is based on performances this year and not previous years. Looking at the list as to how they will line up I've got statistics from 2005 only. Interesting to have a look.

Chris Gayle V Matthew Hayden (431 runs for Gayle compared to Hayden's 721 but Gayle has played 5 matches and Hayden 10. So if anything, it's pretty even. Hayden has only done something of late whereas Gayle hasn't played since June - hard to call.) - I'd say Hayden.

Devon Smith V Justin Langer (114 - 669 - 3 matches compared to 10) - I Give that to Langer.

Ramnaresh Sarwan V Ricky Ponting (319 - 963 - 5 matches compared to 10) -I give that to Ponting without a doubt.

Brian Lara V Michael Clarke (Self explanatory - 765 - 452. 6 matches compared to 10) Lara has it.

Shivnarine Chanderpaul V Simon Katich (877 - 438. 8 matches compared to 9) - Chanderpaul has it.

Marlon Samuels V Shane Watson - Even (Marlon hasn't played yet Watson has only played 2 games. Can't give it to anyone. Lets call it even.) - Even

Denesh Ramdin V Adam Gilchrist (Self explanatory) Gilchrist it is.

Corey Collymore V Shane Warne (15 wickets - 68 wickets) Warne without a doubt.

Daren Powell V Brett Lee

Powell - 22 wickets
Lee - 22 wickets

Average: Powell - 41.63
Average: Lee - 41.72

Strike Rate: Powell - 74.5
Strike Rate: Lee - 57.0

Economy Rate: Powell - 3.35
Economy Rate: Lee - 4.30

Best Figures: Powell - 5/25
Best Figures: Lee - 4/82

I give that to Powell - Just.

Jermaine Lawson V Nathan Bracken (11 wickets in 2 matches to Bracken none in 2) - I give it to Lawson, but if I was to follow consistency, I'd call it even like Watson and Samuels.

Fidel Edwards V Glenn McGrath (6 wickets in 2 matches compared to 44 in 8 matches) - McGrath without a doubt.

If I was to look at it more, I would have this:

Australia win with 6 positions
West Indies win with 4 positions
Draw with 1 position.

If I was to look at past statistics to even out Samuels and Watson I'd have:

Australia - 6
West Indies - 5

Matching that up - you will see that it's pretty even across the board. Result will be a close series. Australia will not have an easy win here. If Australia win the series, West Indies will be competitive and Australia will have to work hard for it.

Look at that and West Indies middle order is superior to Australia's middle order whilst Australia's top order is superior to West Indies top order and it's pretty even for the lower order batting wise. Didn't pull the batting stats for the Bowlers but I would almost give the edge to the Windies lower order in batting based on what I know from the 4 players concerned.

The bowling aspect of things - pretty even. I'd give Australia the edge due to McGrath and Warne.

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If Langer doesn't play this week, I'd be tempted to go with either a West Indies win or a draw in the first test.

I'll finalise my bets when the teams are made.

I've put all this here just to show that Australia may not do it as easy as people think they will.

Series result - Australia 1 - 0 and 2 - 0 are possible. 1 - 1 is possible or 2 - 1 Australia's way is possible. It won't be a clean sweep. I can assure you that.

Action Jackson
10-30-2005, 07:58 AM
If the WIndies can take it to Day 4 in any test without rain being a factor, then that is a victory for them.

Bolar Bolabi
10-30-2005, 07:59 AM
GWH - We will make it to day 4.

sparkus8
10-30-2005, 08:25 AM
Weather will be the only thing that stops a clean sweep for the Aussies.

bad gambler
10-30-2005, 08:33 AM
bolar don't kid yourself, to force Australia not to be playing golf on days 4 and 5 instead of being out on the cricket ground would be one hell of an achievement in itself by the Windies

Bolar Bolabi
10-30-2005, 08:34 AM
Didn't you all say that about England?

Bolar Bolabi
10-30-2005, 08:35 AM
West Indies will force Australia out on the ground on days 4 and 5 without weather being a factor unless Windies win within 3 days.

Bolar Bolabi
11-01-2005, 06:49 AM
No Langer - I'm favouring a Windies win. Australia's openers won't last long and then it's up to Ponting to hold up the innings - Australia's middle order is weak. Australia might find themselves 4 or so down before 100 runs on the board.

spooky105
11-01-2005, 10:36 AM
I can't believe MK and Bolar are the only 2 guys on here who think Windies will win.

MK + Bolar = :retard::retard:

Bolar Bolabi
11-02-2005, 12:37 AM
I'm a Windies supporter and my comments are not bias.

Bolar Bolabi
11-03-2005, 02:23 AM
Got on West Indies to win the Test Match before the start of play.

We won the toss, sent Australia win.

They were looking comfortable 1/95 at Lunch. Suddenly they're now 4/118 in all sorts of trouble.

Lets go Windies.

Bolar Bolabi
11-03-2005, 04:07 AM
A wicket in the first over after Lunch, Collymore doing the business.

Gilchrist out.

Australia 5/215

Collymore has 4 wickets.

Lets go Windies. Everyone has under-rated your bowling attack. Lets bowl Australia out for under 300.

spooky105
11-03-2005, 04:15 AM
WIndies getting smashed ey bro

bad gambler
11-03-2005, 04:25 AM
should have given that money to charity, it would have been better spent

Action Jackson
11-03-2005, 04:27 AM
The Windies will be lucky to avoid the follow on and yes I am going for them, but don't have delusions about their performance.

Bolar Bolabi
11-03-2005, 05:20 AM
Excellent bowling from Fidel Edwards.

Kept the mind games up on Shane Watson, kept bowling around the 148km/h mark late on the first day in the heat, taking it up to Watson and it paid dividends.

6/273

Clean the tail up now guys.

spooky105
11-03-2005, 08:23 AM
I'm putting big bet on match to finish on Saturday, and a few coins on Windies to get bowled out twice tomorrow - they are bad batters.

GOOD LUCK!

Bolar Bolabi
11-03-2005, 08:26 AM
Hahaha. Bad batters. You're crazy. It wouldn't surprise me to see Windies have the first innings lead.

Bolar Bolabi
11-03-2005, 08:32 AM
Plus you all said they were bad bowlers and they didn't disappoint. Everyone worked hard today. Edwards opening spell put the pressure on Hussey and Hussey ended up doing something silly off Collymore. Collymore got confidence and ripped through. Gilchrist was solid with Ponting forming a partnership. Powell wasn't bowling the best, but he got through in the end. Edwards was bowling fast and accurate and his downfall were his noballs, but the snicks that went for 4 were unlucky. His duel with Watson was something good. Ultimately, that led to Watson's dismissal by a superb bowl near 150km/h which hit him on the pads. Easy lbw.

Lawson is showing that he is underdone. Surgery at the end of September on his heel but as time progresses and he gets back into the swing of things, he will be dangerous. This bowling attack is very inexperienced and it's being led by the experience of Collymore. Expect big things from this bowling attack in the next two tests.

Australia's tail gelled together like they did with England to hold up and post a respectable score for Australia. The tail were solid.

If Australia didn't have Ponting, West Indies would have been batting by the end of day 1. Ponting and the tail saved Australia just like in the ashes, but it won't be enough. This will be a 5 day test match. I expect Windies to bat all of tomorrow and into Saturday to take a first innings lead. This team have guts and by no means are they going to give up.

They should clean up the tail and have a total of around 350 to chase. If it gets near 400, I question whether the Windies can win this test match. An early wicket tomorrow with a healthy Collymore and all will be good.

spooky105
11-03-2005, 08:32 AM
:haha:

eddie murphy man - you are funny!!!

this is game over, like roger federer.

Bolar Bolabi
11-03-2005, 08:35 AM
What a load of crap. This team will score over 300 runs in their first innings.

Australia's bowling attack is nothing special.

Lee can't bowl at test level - he's only a one day bowler.

Watson is pathetic at test level - he's only a one day bowler.

Bracken is pathetic full stop.

McGrath and Warne need to do all the damage. Lara, Sarwan, Chanderpaul, Samuels are all solid players of spin and Lara and Chanderpaul can negate Warne. The openers need to see through the new ball and if they do, West Indies have this test won. If Gayle and Smith can see out at an opening partnership, Australia will be shaking in their boots.

Finns4
11-03-2005, 08:35 AM
Im with Bolar too, Australia will simply under estimate the WI. They have such better bowlers than last time we played them, there batsmen are all on form. I bet on a draw & West Indies win on the first test, Sure it wasnt much but the odds make up for that.

We will all find out tomz when they bat. The only bowlers imo who will trouble WI are Glen & Shane!

spooky105
11-03-2005, 08:40 AM
ok mans, you give me the money, and I betted on this game to be all over and drinking beer by Saturday afternoon.

Bolar Bolabi
11-03-2005, 09:05 AM
The only batsmen for the West Indies who's form is questionable is Brian Lara. But he is the sort of bloke who will step up in a situation like this. Everyone under-estimates this team. They have a lot of talent. They are a talented bunch. Their enthusiasm today shows that they want to work as a team.

They're inexperienced, sure, but they have talent and if they aren't treated with respect, they will do the unthinkable by most and win.

Bolar Bolabi
11-03-2005, 09:13 AM
Im with Bolar too, Australia will simply under estimate the WI. They have such better bowlers than last time we played them, there batsmen are all on form. I bet on a draw & West Indies win on the first test, Sure it wasnt much but the odds make up for that.

We will all find out tomz when they bat. The only bowlers imo who will trouble WI are Glen & Shane!

To improve on your point.

Last time in Australia.

Gayle, Smith, Ramdin, Powell, Edwards, Lawson, Collymore did not play against Australia.

Samuels was 19 - his first series.

I'm not sure on Sarwan if he was playing in the test series or not.

Sherwin Campbell and Jimmy Adams were past it. Daren Ganga was very young and it showed.

Nixon McLean, Mervyn Dillon, Marlon Black were not as good as the bowlers now. Courtney Walsh was a champion, but he was ageing and wasn't at his best.

This is a totally new different team since 2000. New faces and a younger, better bowling attack and a lot of talented batsman and bowlers.

Edwards, Lawson and Collymore and Powell are more talented than McLean, Black and Dillon.

They're all younger than Walsh who was holding the bowling together.

Under-rate this team at your own peril.

If this series was played last year, Australia would romp it home.

Since Bennett King has taken the reigns and brought with him other Australian's, this team has improved out of sight. The fitness has improved and it's all showing. These bowlers will learn from this test match and they will be bigger and better in the next 2 tests and from here on in. This team will remain competitive.

Yes, they are known to collapse, but from what I can tell with their enthusiasm and attitude, they should hold it all together and they're gelling as a team.

West Indies will be no push overs and only fools think that Australia will win this easy.

If Australia wins, they would have had to work mega hard for the victory.

spooky105
11-04-2005, 02:24 AM
ahahahahahhahahahhahaha

1 down, 19 to go

lets go ausies

bad gambler
11-04-2005, 02:27 AM
:haha: @ windies


great job cleaning up the tails guys :yeah:

bad gambler
11-04-2005, 02:27 AM
bracken scored 37 :tape:

spooky105
11-04-2005, 03:07 AM
2 down, 18 to go

:D:D

bad gambler
11-04-2005, 03:08 AM
lets go aussies, no doubt the boys have got their sunday and monday golf days lined up

Action Jackson
11-04-2005, 10:04 AM
Like I said they won't avoid the follow on.

Bolar Bolabi
11-04-2005, 10:28 AM
Australia won't enforce it. Australia will take a bat again.

If Lara wasn't out with that ridiculous decision, we'd be nearly 300 now.

Chanderpaul's move to bowl first I still back 100%. Our bowlers needed to have a crack at the best team in the world under pressure first. Young bowling lineup, what's better for their development than have first crack at Australia on Australia's turf? Our bowlers will learn from that and I must say, they did a reasonable job except near the end of the innings when the concentration wasn't there. Expect mega improvement come Hobart in a few weeks. It wouldnt' surprise me if our bowlers did something special when Australia bat again tomorrow.

McGrath and Warne own us. Need to find a way to counteract that. I say attack them regardless. Try and put them away nearly every ball. If you lose your wicket, so be it. McGrath and Warne have huge confidence now. We need to try and dint their confidence. Next time we bat charge them and attack. Gayle to play his natural game at all costs. Get them frustrated. If we get them frustrated early, chances are we'll be in for a big innings. Gayle needs to play his natural game and if he gets clean bowled for a golden duck, so be it.

sports freak
11-05-2005, 01:27 AM
Come On Aussies send em back to the PAVILLION!!!!!McGrath u bloody champ

aftermatch
11-05-2005, 10:19 AM
bolar bolar bolar :cuckoo:
and his west indies team :crazy: :crazy:

Bolar Bolabi
11-05-2005, 10:30 AM
Second and Third tests - the improvement will come. Lawson was underdone and he showed he is getting back into the swing of things today. He was bowling in the right places - just was unlucky and now with those catch oppurtunities, his confidence is shot.

They're an inexperienced young bowling attack except Collymore and they will learn from this and I expect a bigger showing from the bowlers in the second and third tests.

Probably one change next test. In Bravo and out Powell.

But, the question remains.

Can the Windies break their own record of chasing down a huge total to win a test match?

2003, Australia set them 418 to win.

Here's the scoreboard for all who is interested.

West Indies 2nd innings (target: 418 runs) R M B 4 6

CH Gayle c Waugh b Lee 19 102 71 1 1
DS Smith c Gilchrist b Gillespie 23 115 94 3 0
D Ganga lbw b McGrath 8 64 40 1 0
*BC Lara b MacGill 60 154 119 5 3
RR Sarwan c & b Lee 105 208 139 17 0
S Chanderpaul c Gilchrist b Lee 104 229 154 17 1
+RD Jacobs c Gilchrist b Lee 0 1 1 0 0
OAC Banks not out 47 207 114 6 0
VC Drakes not out 27 59 47 3 1

Extras (b 9, lb 9, w 1, nb 6) 25

Total (7 wickets, 128.5 overs) 418

DNB: M Dillon, JJC Lawson.

FoW: 1-48 (Gayle, 24.5 ov), 2-50 (Smith, 27.4 ov),
3-74 (Ganga, 38.6 ov), 4-165 (Lara, 64.1 ov),
5-288 (Sarwan, 90.2 ov), 6-288 (Jacobs, 90.3 ov),
7-372 (Chanderpaul, 116.1 ov).

Bowling O M R W

McGrath 25 10 50 1
Gillespie 25 10 64 1
Lee 23 4 63 4 (3nb)
MacGill 35.5 8 149 1
Bichel 15 3 49 0 (3nb, 1w)
Waugh 5 0 25 0

We've done it before against Australia. Top 3 struggled and we still chased it down. Broke the record, now hold the record.

But can we re-brake our own record this time chasing down 500?

Probably not, but don't write off the Windies.

You have to remember that the middle order can survive and not worry about smacking the ball.

Plus, I believe this test would be a different story if that umpire didn't give out Lara lbw. Lara was starting to find his form again and I think he would have made a huge century.

Don't worry, Australia won't have easy wins like this in the next 2 matches. The bowlers have now tasted Australian conditions - all of them are bowling in Australia for the first time I think. And our batting will get back.

Chanderpaul listed goals at the start of the year as to what he wanted to achieve. He wanted to get his first century in Australia. He's made about 3 of his 4 other goals.

You watch. Hobart and Adelaide will be closer than this first test.

Bolar Bolabi
11-05-2005, 10:34 AM
We're probably missing Pedro Collins. Troubled Australia last summer in the one dayers. Unfortunately he's injured. His left arm fast would trouble Australia.

The forecast for the next few days is rain on and off. This team can survive if they want - but they have to negate Warne and McGrath.

Speaking of which, when Warne and McGrath both retire, Australia are stuffed. They have no future - particularly with bowlers. West Indies do.

Won't be long till Australia are crap.

This West Indian team minus Lara will be world champs in a few years. Mark my words.

bad gambler
11-05-2005, 10:15 PM
Australia 3-0

aftermatch
11-05-2005, 11:13 PM
bolar :silly: :silly: :silly:

aftermatch
11-05-2005, 11:16 PM
bolar, thanks for bad rep, :silly: :silly: :silly:

sparkus8
11-06-2005, 02:36 AM
Windies folding like a deck chair as most sane minded cricket followers expected.

Only rain can save the visitors.

5/105

sparkus8
11-06-2005, 02:41 AM
Another wicket, 6/105.

sparkus8
11-06-2005, 02:57 AM
8/106, Bracken on a hat trick!!!

sparkus8
11-06-2005, 03:00 AM
Doesn't get it, knee high full toss down legside.

bad gambler
11-06-2005, 03:03 AM
Probably not, but don't write off the Windies.

written off before they even came into the country and rightly so



Don't worry, Australia won't have easy wins like this in the next 2 matches. The bowlers have now tasted Australian conditions - all of them are bowling in Australia for the first time I think. And our batting will get back.

You watch. Hobart and Adelaide will be closer than this first test.

Now this is something I actualy agree with you. Windies will get better for sure, from losing a test match inside 4 days I can really see them losing at least one of the next two tests inside the lunch session on day 5

It's fantastic you are a huge supporter of Windies cricket, but please do not continue to post drivel like you have done the past week. Windies cricket is in turmoil and it has been so for the past 5 years.

sparkus8
11-06-2005, 03:05 AM
9/114 Lee gets another wicket

sparkus8
11-06-2005, 03:18 AM
It's all over.

Australia win by 379 runs.

sparkus8
11-06-2005, 03:28 AM
Surprise, surprise Ponting named man of the match.

Poor Windies, after threatening to rain all day it finally comes 10 minutes after the last wicket has fallen lol.

$@M
11-06-2005, 04:23 AM
GO AUSSIE !!! Now that the cricket is over, it's time for the WC Qualification !!!

aftermatch
11-06-2005, 11:28 AM
Second and Third tests - the improvement will come. Lawson was underdone and he showed he is getting back into the swing of things today. He was bowling in the right places - just was unlucky and now with those catch oppurtunities, his confidence is shot.

what is the bowling figure for Lawson? :silly:

They're an inexperienced young bowling attack except Collymore and they will learn from this and I expect a bigger showing from the bowlers in the second and third tests.

the bolar thinks West Indies problem is BOWLING? how about the BATTING? can they go over 250? :silly::silly::silly:

Probably one change next test. In Bravo and out Powell.

But, the question remains.

Can the Windies break their own record of chasing down a huge total to win a test match?

2003, Australia set them 418 to win.

Here's the scoreboard for all who is interested.

West Indies 2nd innings (target: 418 runs) R M B 4 6

CH Gayle c Waugh b Lee 19 102 71 1 1
DS Smith c Gilchrist b Gillespie 23 115 94 3 0
D Ganga lbw b McGrath 8 64 40 1 0
*BC Lara b MacGill 60 154 119 5 3
RR Sarwan c & b Lee 105 208 139 17 0
S Chanderpaul c Gilchrist b Lee 104 229 154 17 1
+RD Jacobs c Gilchrist b Lee 0 1 1 0 0
OAC Banks not out 47 207 114 6 0
VC Drakes not out 27 59 47 3 1

Extras (b 9, lb 9, w 1, nb 6) 25

Total (7 wickets, 128.5 overs) 418

DNB: M Dillon, JJC Lawson.

FoW: 1-48 (Gayle, 24.5 ov), 2-50 (Smith, 27.4 ov),
3-74 (Ganga, 38.6 ov), 4-165 (Lara, 64.1 ov),
5-288 (Sarwan, 90.2 ov), 6-288 (Jacobs, 90.3 ov),
7-372 (Chanderpaul, 116.1 ov).

Bowling O M R W

McGrath 25 10 50 1
Gillespie 25 10 64 1
Lee 23 4 63 4 (3nb)
MacGill 35.5 8 149 1
Bichel 15 3 49 0 (3nb, 1w)
Waugh 5 0 25 0

We've done it before against Australia. Top 3 struggled and we still chased it down. Broke the record, now hold the record.

But can we re-brake our own record this time chasing down 500?

bolar is dreaming :silly::silly::silly:

Probably not, but don't write off the Windies.

You have to remember that the middle order can survive and not worry about smacking the ball.

what middle order? :silly:

Plus, I believe this test would be a different story if that umpire didn't give out Lara lbw. Lara was starting to find his form again and I think he would have made a huge century.

what is Lara score in second inning? :silly:

Don't worry, Australia won't have easy wins like this in the next 2 matches. The bowlers have now tasted Australian conditions - all of them are bowling in Australia for the first time I think. And our batting will get back.

I thought you said West Indies will win? easy win to Australia now? :silly::silly::silly:

Chanderpaul listed goals at the start of the year as to what he wanted to achieve. He wanted to get his first century in Australia. He's made about 3 of his 4 other goals.

what is his other goals? go back home to his mummy and cry? :silly::silly::silly:

You watch. Hobart and Adelaide will be closer than this first test.

why dont you just stick to pizza delivery job? :silly:

Action Jackson
11-06-2005, 11:36 AM
Send in the clowns, can they get worse I hope not, but the West Indies one can never tell.

aftermatch
11-16-2005, 11:09 PM
Where is West Indies and its ALONE supporter :silly: :silly:

bad gambler
11-16-2005, 11:21 PM
he must have skipped the country

bad gambler
11-17-2005, 07:18 PM
In case people missed it, I don't blame them if they did, the score after day 1

Windies all out for 149

Aus 0/60

Sunday and Monday is off for the Aussies

bad gambler
11-18-2005, 07:10 AM
Day 2

Australia in reply 1/256

Hussey 116*
Hayden 110 - second man in history behind Bradman to score 4 centuries in consecutive tests

ICC should create two competitions, one with the top teams the other with the bottom one, maybe that way windies might be competitive against teams like the zimboks and bangers.

its.like.that
11-18-2005, 01:36 PM
This test match has been rather profitable for me.

I had a big bet on Windies 1st innings total runs under 150.5.

Pity is I only got $1.25 odds :sad:.

bad gambler
11-19-2005, 06:10 AM
Day 3

Aus all out for 406

Windies second innings 4/82

All over by tomorrow assuming the rain stays away.

Still waiting for Bolar's assessment of this test match

bad gambler
11-24-2005, 10:12 AM
Final test starts tomorrow

Windies to lose inside 3 days, last I heard the Aussies have already planned a day trip to the Borossa Valley on Monday.

On a sidenote, i hope gayle gets better.

Bolar Bolabi
11-24-2005, 10:18 AM
Windies to win the test.

Lara to be man of the match.

His last match at the Adelaide oval he scored 154 in a one dayer in January against Pakistan.

His last test at Adelaide oval he scored 182.

The last 12 tests at the Adelaide oval West Indies have played, they have won 5 and lost 4.

Australia won't win inside 3 days. I think you will find the West Indies will win this one and if they don't, it will be a draw.

Plus they finally got rid of that South African umpire. Billy Bowden is umpiring so expect Lara not to get any dodgy calls. If Lara doesn't get any more dodgy decisions against him he will break Border's record, he will get man of the match and he will guide the Windies to a win.

This is Lara's last test match in Australia. Me thinks he won't fail. He looked good in the second innings in Hobart before another dodgy call against him and he will want to leave this country on a high note.

Lara to score most runs in West Indies first innings too is a goer. I'm playing that aswell as a Windies win.

Bolar Bolabi
11-24-2005, 10:21 AM
Interesting - all excellent players who play against Australia in Australia get dodgy decisions against them.

Tendulkar a few years ago.
Lara this year.

Probably Kallis or De Villers will get the dodgy calls against them in the next test series.

bad gambler
11-24-2005, 10:24 AM
De Villiers is considered in the same class as those other batsman? interesting.

Bolar Bolabi
11-24-2005, 10:59 AM
I rate De Villiers. He's a gun. He will murder Australia's attack. In a few years time he will be one of the best batsman that will currently be in the game.

sports freak
11-25-2005, 04:33 AM
De Villiers is considered in the same class as those other batsman? interesting.

Very interesting :eek:

Bolar Bolabi
11-25-2005, 09:54 AM
Windies to win the test.

Lara to be man of the match.

His last match at the Adelaide oval he scored 154 in a one dayer in January against Pakistan.

His last test at Adelaide oval he scored 182.

The last 12 tests at the Adelaide oval West Indies have played, they have won 5 and lost 4.

Australia won't win inside 3 days. I think you will find the West Indies will win this one and if they don't, it will be a draw.

Plus they finally got rid of that South African umpire. Billy Bowden is umpiring so expect Lara not to get any dodgy calls. If Lara doesn't get any more dodgy decisions against him he will break Border's record, he will get man of the match and he will guide the Windies to a win.

This is Lara's last test match in Australia. Me thinks he won't fail. He looked good in the second innings in Hobart before another dodgy call against him and he will want to leave this country on a high note.

Lara to score most runs in West Indies first innings too is a goer. I'm playing that aswell as a Windies win.

Bolar rocks!

Bolar Bolabi
11-25-2005, 10:01 AM
Sportingbet have already paid Lara being leading run scorer in first innings for the Windies.

Bolar Bolabi
11-28-2005, 09:24 AM
Dwayne Bravo - excellent catch.

This guy is the Windies best allrounder since Sobers. I reckon in a few years he'll be better than Flintoff and by the time he finishes his career he would have shown that he's better than Sobers. He'll develop into one of the best allrounders the world has ever seen. He needs to work on a few things and keep his head screwed on and he'll be set.

Brilliant catch! Let's re-live the moment. In order.

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/55900/55941.jpg

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/11/27/all_rounder_wideweb__470x344,0.jpg

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/55900/55948.jpg

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/55900/55945.jpg

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its.like.that
11-28-2005, 10:08 AM
lol

Bolar Bolabi
11-28-2005, 10:14 AM
What's so funny?

its.like.that
11-28-2005, 10:16 AM
the Windies batting perfomance.

Bolar Bolabi
11-28-2005, 10:36 AM
Umpires have cost us the series. That's all I'm going to say.

Lara was robbed 3 times - could have scored lots of runs.

And today, we had a test match within our reach to win on Australian soil - the umpires f***** it up 5 times. 3 times when we were batting and 2 times when we were fielding. Sarwan's dismissal should be enough to give Billy Bowden a holiday from world cricket for a few months.

How much is the Australian cricket team paying these umps? Fair dinkum. If Australia win this test match and get a clean sweep - they didn't do it on their own. They did it with the help of the umpires.

The Australian cricket team don't win matches on their own. They pay the umps to help them.

bad gambler
11-28-2005, 10:42 AM
Australia 3-0 is a fair reflection of where both teams are at the moment

At least the Windies have improved this match - and now that Lara is going to retire they need the younger guys like Bravo to step up.

its.like.that
11-28-2005, 10:43 AM
Bolar - the Windies have been playing better of late, but they never stood a chance this series.

:sad:

Bolar Bolabi
11-28-2005, 10:55 AM
Lara won't retire for a few more years. It would not at all surprise me if he is back on this soil in 4 years time playing for the Windies.

As far as I see it, he's retired from one dayers - made that decision earlier in the year to prolong his test career.

Lara showed this year he can still match it. He almost scored 1000 test runs in the calendar year. He scored 5 centuries this year. Lara could be back and I hope he is back because a player of his calibre is important for the young players in the side.

I can safely say that this tour has made and broken players careers.

Chris Gayle - stay
Devon Smith - gone
Ramnaresh Sarwan - disappointed - he only averages high against the lesser teams.
Brian Lara - experience is valuable
Shivnarine Chanderpaul - needs to let go of captaincy - it's affected his batting.
Dwayne Smith - one dayers only.
Marlon Samuels - coming back from a 2 year lay off - his career aint ended yet.
Dwayne Bravo - his career is made
Denesh Ramdin - plucked out of nowhere - being very young his career is made.
Daren Powell - disappointed me. Has no room left in the team.
Fidel Edwards - excellent. may have been a bit expensive but with experience he will soon be a better bowler. This tour will help him big time. With him being young he will improve.
Corey Collymore - solid
Jermaine Lawson - shouldn't have been picked this tour due to injury however he showed things in the first test match. he's a talented bowler who the Windies will persist with.
Tino Best - crap - should never have been on this tour.
Wavell Hinds - needed to step up, didn't. he's gone.

So the 11 for the tour of New Zealand early next year.

1. Chris Gayle
2. Vacant
3. Ramnaresh Sarwan
4. Brian Lara
5. Shivnarine Chanderpaul
6. Dwayne Bravo
7. Denesh Ramdin
8. Pedro Collins
9. Corey Collymore
10. Fidel Edwards
11. Jermaine Lawson

The other 3 positions.

12. Marlon Samuels
13. Vacant
14. Vacant

We missed a fit Jermaine Lawson and a fit Pedro Collins this tour. As we have no spinners coming along and as Bravo and Ramdin have proven their batting - they will improve, we may aswell play with 4 fast bowlers with Bravo at 6 and those are the 4 fast bowlers.

So lets recap.

Devon Smith - Gone
Wavell Hinds - Gone
Daren Powell - Gone
Tino Best - Gone

its.like.that
11-28-2005, 01:30 PM
lol, ok big fella, you got it all sorted out.

:D

adee-gee
11-28-2005, 01:31 PM
:lol: Bolar should be a Windies selector.

sports freak
11-28-2005, 11:08 PM
Lara won't retire for a few more years. It would not at all surprise me if he is back on this soil in 4 years time playing for the Windies.

As far as I see it, he's retired from one dayers - made that decision earlier in the year to prolong his test career.

Lara showed this year he can still match it. He almost scored 1000 test runs in the calendar year. He scored 5 centuries this year. Lara could be back and I hope he is back because a player of his calibre is important for the young players in the side.

I can safely say that this tour has made and broken players careers.

Chris Gayle - stay
Devon Smith - gone
Ramnaresh Sarwan - disappointed - he only averages high against the lesser teams.
Brian Lara - experience is valuable
Shivnarine Chanderpaul - needs to let go of captaincy - it's affected his batting.
Dwayne Smith - one dayers only.
Marlon Samuels - coming back from a 2 year lay off - his career aint ended yet.
Dwayne Bravo - his career is made
Denesh Ramdin - plucked out of nowhere - being very young his career is made.
Daren Powell - disappointed me. Has no room left in the team.
Fidel Edwards - excellent. may have been a bit expensive but with experience he will soon be a better bowler. This tour will help him big time. With him being young he will improve.
Corey Collymore - solid
Jermaine Lawson - shouldn't have been picked this tour due to injury however he showed things in the first test match. he's a talented bowler who the Windies will persist with.
Tino Best - crap - should never have been on this tour.
Wavell Hinds - needed to step up, didn't. he's gone.

So the 11 for the tour of New Zealand early next year.

1. Chris Gayle
2. Vacant
3. Ramnaresh Sarwan
4. Brian Lara
5. Shivnarine Chanderpaul
6. Dwayne Bravo
7. Denesh Ramdin
8. Pedro Collins
9. Corey Collymore
10. Fidel Edwards
11. Jermaine Lawson

The other 3 positions.

12. Marlon Samuels
13. Vacant
14. Vacant

We missed a fit Jermaine Lawson and a fit Pedro Collins this tour. As we have no spinners coming along and as Bravo and Ramdin have proven their batting - they will improve, we may aswell play with 4 fast bowlers with Bravo at 6 and those are the 4 fast bowlers.

So lets recap.

Devon Smith - Gone
Wavell Hinds - Gone
Daren Powell - Gone
Tino Best - Gone

Bolar you pretty much summed it all up :) not much more to add,as for Lara another for yrs is a big call!!!!Maybe another 2 more but 4 yrs i guess isnt out of the question if he looks after himself!!!!Also depends on his hunger,the guy has achieved pretty much everything in da book!!!!

its.like.that
11-28-2005, 11:11 PM
Bolar Bolar Bolar

OI OI OI

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