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Baghdatis d. Nalbandian

Grinder
10-29-2005, 02:32 PM
Congrats to Marcos for making his first ATP Level final. Hopefully, you can continue your success in the final. It's great to see players from countries like Cyprus, Finland, etc. be successful.

Marcos Baghdatis defeats David Nalbandian 6-2 7-6 (3)

Oh and GWH, the server was too busy during the Baghdatis match...

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 02:33 PM
That was quick. Congrats, Marcos. David :(

Domino
10-29-2005, 02:34 PM
Mabrouk Marcos!!! Man, what a performance, I loved every moment of it. What a match to win, over the Nalb!!!

ClaycourtaZzZz.
10-29-2005, 02:35 PM
Nalby:smash:

All my vcash is gone:(

*Ljubica*
10-29-2005, 02:37 PM
Respect to Baghdatis :worship: - he was awesome and truly deserved his win today. Hope he goes on to win the Final now. Congrats.

LostGlory
10-29-2005, 02:37 PM
Well Done Marcos Pame......

joeb_uk
10-29-2005, 02:37 PM
Marcos is a class act! Pure legend. Probably the most entertaining player on court (for his personality). Has great charisma, and is a really nice guy. He is really great to see live too! Saw him at surbiton twice and also at queens :woohoo:

I was wondering what had happened to him, but it seems he is making the breakthrough now finally!

jazz_girl
10-29-2005, 02:37 PM
Baghdatis played a great match, he scared me! :lol: congrats.

R.Federer
10-29-2005, 02:39 PM
Awesome for Marcos Baghdatis, although wanted David to win the whole tournament

Hey, in all this news about andi murray recently, we had forgotten the other junior phenon on the tour. Hope Marcos now wins the tournament

LostGlory
10-29-2005, 02:40 PM
Marcos is a class act! Pure legend. Probably the most entertaining player on court (for his personality). Has great charisma, and is a really nice guy. He is really great to see live too! Saw him at surbiton twice and also at queens :woohoo:

I was wondering what had happened to him, but it seems he is making the breakthrough now finally!

He had a very bad injury a Career threatenning injury in his arm....he decided to take the hard decision of an operation in February and has been trying to get fit again .....he is working with a new coach now....I hope next year will be his break through year.....

silverwhite
10-29-2005, 02:41 PM
David :bigcry:

asotgod
10-29-2005, 02:41 PM
Good job by Marcos. Wanted Nalby to win to enhance his TMC chances. Anyways, hope he will be able to perform well enough in Paris to take the opportunity now available.

Back to Marcos: seems he is an unrefined version of Nalby with a much bigger and more consistent serve. Hope he has an injury-free next year. Nalby, go buy a good serve for once. You're wasting too much talent.

Horatio Caine
10-29-2005, 02:42 PM
Well played Marcos! Not totally unexpected given his gameplan....but a little surprising.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 02:42 PM
I'm not sad about this match. David played poorly, and he deserved to lose. Marcos, good luck tomorrow.

joeb_uk
10-29-2005, 02:43 PM
Awesome for Marcos Baghdatis, although wanted David to win the whole tournament

Hey, in all this news about andi murray recently, we had forgotten the other junior phenon on the tour. Hope Marcos now wins the tournament
Exactly! Its nice to marcos having good results! I was getting abit bored with the constant ass licking of that scottish bastard murray :mad: Hopefully they will take their attention off murray for a moment, and talk about the true class act.

When I saw marcos playing on the grass, to be honest he wasnt that impressive. But seeing him this week, he has very much impressed me like he did agaisnt federer us open 04. His shots on the run actually remind of me federer :D You think you have hit a winner against him, and he tears down the ball and hits a winner past the opponent :yeah:

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 02:44 PM
Good job by Marcos. Wanted Nalby to win to enhance his TMC chances. Anyways, hope he will be able to perform well enough in Paris to take the opportunity now available.

Back to Marcos: seems he is an unrefined version of Nalby with a much bigger and more consistent serve. Hope he has an injury-free next year. Nalby, go buy a good serve for once. You're wasting too much talent.

Actually, David didn't serve that badly in this match. It was poor shot selection (bad dropper here, bad volley there) that cost him this match. Had he solidified the break he had in the second set, we'd be in a third right now.

joeb_uk
10-29-2005, 02:45 PM
Good job by Marcos. Wanted Nalby to win to enhance his TMC chances. Anyways, hope he will be able to perform well enough in Paris to take the opportunity now available.

Back to Marcos: seems he is an unrefined version of Nalby with a much bigger and more consistent serve. Hope he has an injury-free next year. Nalby, go buy a good serve for once. You're wasting too much talent.
He is also alot faster round the court I think. With a nicer forehand (especially on the run). I dont think he has the lacking mental aspect that david has either.

User id 7816
10-29-2005, 02:45 PM
wow well played Marcos! I expected David to win but its always great to get sursprised in this way! good luck in the final, who knows what Marcos can do there.

Sakura 0101
10-29-2005, 02:46 PM
Congrats Marcos.

Good luck to Bercy David :yeah:
The only good thing is he can start preparing to Paris right now !!!!!!! :)

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 02:47 PM
I dont think he has the lacking mental aspect that david has either.

Or did you mean to say that he has more self-belief? I will agree with that if that's what you meant.

Grinder
10-29-2005, 02:47 PM
The funny thing is that Marcos's toughest match so far in this tournament was hard fought 5-7 7-6 7-6(6) victory over Bob Bryan in the final round of Qualies.

joeb_uk
10-29-2005, 02:47 PM
I think david will be able to deep in paris though. I dont see him winning the tournament, but I think he has a good chance of getting to the final!

joeb_uk
10-29-2005, 02:49 PM
Or did you mean to say that he has more self-belief? I will agree with that if that's what you meant.
Thats one of the pyschological aspects yes, but i feel he will be alot stronger in the mind than nalbandian. Everyone knows david isnt the strongest mentally.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 02:49 PM
I think david will be able to deep in paris though. I dont see him winning the tournament, but I think he has a good chance of getting to the final!

Yeah...if he can get past Roddick.

joeb_uk
10-29-2005, 02:49 PM
The funny thing is that Marcos's toughest match so far in this tournament was hard fought 5-7 7-6 7-6(6) victory over Bob Bryan in the final round of Qualies.
:lol: :lol:

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 02:51 PM
Thats one of the pyschological aspects yes, but i feel he will be alot stronger in the mind than nalbandian. Everyone knows david isnt the strongest mentally.

Agreed. That's one thing that David would do well to work on...although lately he hasn't let the bad calls get to him. And he's worked on the serve. I would recommend, in the off-season, that he work with a psychologist.

joeb_uk
10-29-2005, 02:51 PM
Yeah...if he can get past Roddick.
I would love to see david kick roddicks ass again, I dont think david would lose to roddick. Especially considering how bad the duck is this year. David knows how to beat the duck :D I am sure he will if he meets roddick at paris.

asotgod
10-29-2005, 02:51 PM
Actually, David didn't serve that badly in this match. It was poor shot selection (bad dropper here, bad volley there) that cost him this match. Had he solidified the break he had in the second set, we'd be in a third right now.

Ok, sigmagirl91. I guess he needs to get himself a mental therapist to help him out. He just lacks it when he gets deep into tournaments. I am not saying Marcos is not a good shotmaker. He is, but David has all but a very good serve and head to be in the top 5 consistently. He just disappoints.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 02:51 PM
I would love to see david kick roddicks ass again, I dont think david would lose to roddick. Especially considering how bad the duck is this year. David knows how to beat the duck :D I am sure he will if he meets roddick at paris.

I would too, but if David has a day like this one, I doubt it.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 02:52 PM
Ok, sigmagirl91. I guess he needs to get himself a mental therapist to help him out. He just lacks it when he gets deep into tournaments. I am not saying Marcos is not a good shotmaker. He is, but David has all but a very good serve and head to be in the top 5 consistently. He just disappoints.

Review the post above yours. I basically said the same thing.

asotgod
10-29-2005, 02:53 PM
He is also alot faster round the court I think. With a nicer forehand (especially on the run). I dont think he has the lacking mental aspect that david has either.

I hear you. He does have a flatter forehand and more consistent on the run like you say. Marcos is not getting any attention like all the other young guns are. I am hoping he pulls a surprise on them next year. He has enough in his arsenal, bar injury to be in the top 20 now, IMO. And with experience, to get to the top 10.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 02:54 PM
I hear you. He does have a flatter forehand and more consistent on the run like you say. Marcos is not getting any attention like all the other young guns are. I am hoping he pulls a surprise on them next year. He has enough in his arsenal, bar injury to be in the top 20 now, IMO. And with experience, to get to the top 10.

He is quite impressive. Like you say, he's got to stay injury-free in order for that to happen.

joeb_uk
10-29-2005, 02:56 PM
He is also very good for the game too, really nice guy and an asset to the tennis world.

Concerning the forehand, I dont think david is able to step up and snap winners off like marcos can. Marcos can really accelerate the forehand out of no where. David has a solid forehand, but I dont think he is able to do the damage that marcos can. But marcos is a more attacking player anyway than david.

asotgod
10-29-2005, 02:57 PM
He is quite impressive. Like you say, he's got to stay injury-free in order for that to happen.

Hopefully, we are blessed next year with no injuries. Then we'll finally have a more exciting year, and competition right from the first rounds, even for the top players. Won't that be something?

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 02:59 PM
He is also very good for the game too, really nice guy and an asset to the tennis world.

Concerning the forehand, I dont think david is able to step up and snap winners off like marcos can. Marcos can really accelerate the forehand out of no where. David has a solid forehand, but I dont think he is able to do the damage that marcos can. But marcos is a more attacking player anyway than david.

You're right....David is not the most aggressive player out there. Solid, but not as aggressive as he could be.

joeb_uk
10-29-2005, 02:59 PM
Hopefully, we are blessed next year with no injuries. Then we'll finally have a more exciting year, and competition right from the first rounds, even for the top players. Won't that be something?
I havent been a tennis fan for long, but this year has been very very very Dissapointing :sad:

Lets hope 06 deilvers

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 02:59 PM
Hopefully, we are blessed next year with no injuries. Then we'll finally have a more exciting year, and competition right from the first rounds, even for the top players. Won't that be something?

That would be great.

happy928
10-29-2005, 03:01 PM
MARCO POLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yea baby!!!! :)

joeb_uk
10-29-2005, 03:01 PM
You're right....David is not the most aggressive player out there. Solid, but not as aggressive as he could be.
Davids reason for not winning a slam I feel is:
- Sometimes not aggressive enough, when he should finish the point.
- Lacks the good serve to win him easy points, and take the pressure off his service games. Because he is such a good returner, but I always worry when he is serving because he gets broken so easily.
- Mental problems that we discussed earlier

Although, if he had the big serve (I still think he could probably win a slam, minus the other problems)

vincayou
10-29-2005, 03:03 PM
:yeah: This is the year of the youngsters.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 03:03 PM
Davids reason for not winning a slam I feel is:
- Sometimes not aggressive enough, when he should finish the point.
- Lacks the good serve to win him easy points, and take the pressure off his service games. Because he is such a good returner, but I always worry when he is serving because he gets broken so easily.
- Mental problems that we discussed earlier

Although, if he had the big serve (I still think he could probably win a slam, minus the other problems)

As with most things, Joe, in order to get to the top, you have to remove those obstacles. You have to put in the hard work, the soul-searching, whatever it takes to get to the top. To me, his problem is psychological (and physiological too, if I might say so myself).

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 03:04 PM
:yeah: This is the year of the youngsters.

Yep.....they're turning it out.

joeb_uk
10-29-2005, 03:08 PM
As with most things, Joe, in order to get to the top, you have to remove those obstacles. You have to put in the hard work, the soul-searching, whatever it takes to get to the top. To me, his problem is psychological (and physiological too, if I might say so myself).
Sure he can work on the pyschological side, but its possible that he may not be able to overcome the problem. Maybe thats the case for him too :shrug:

The lack of aggression, is easily worked on (and can be changed as easy as anything, thats if he wants to).

As for the serve, I think it would be very difficult for him to get a great serve. No matter how hard he worked on it, there are things in sport that no matter how hard we work on (some of just wont have it). It isnt really a liability, but I feel sometimes its a weakness. Because of that, I doubt he would even work on it.

gooner88
10-29-2005, 03:10 PM
Baghdatis was great today. The better player throughout and totally deserved the win. Good luck in Paris Nalbo.
It's gonna be tough for him in a best of 5 final, but I'll be rooting for him in the final.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 03:13 PM
Sure he can work on the pyschological side, but its possible that he may not be able to overcome the problem. Maybe thats the case for him too :shrug:

The lack of aggression, is easily worked on (and can be changed as easy as anything, thats if he wants to).

As for the serve, I think it would be very difficult for him to get a great serve. No matter how hard he worked on it, there are things in sport that no matter how hard we work on (some of just wont have it). It isnt really a liability, but I feel sometimes its a weakness. Because of that, I doubt he would even work on it.

The physiological-maybe not. The psychological? It's possible-if he can identify his mental barriers. In any case, if it can't be worked out, it can be worked around.

ReturnWinner
10-29-2005, 03:30 PM
yes bagdathis played pretty well i think his best match ever.
that speaks very well about the chucho performance yesterday :yeah:

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 03:30 PM
yes bagdathis played pretty well i think his best match ever.
that speaks very well about the chucho performance yesterday :yeah:

Very well.

croat123
10-29-2005, 03:31 PM
marcos :worship:

ivan is looking good for the masters now

PaulieM
10-29-2005, 03:33 PM
great win for marcos :banana:
david :hug:

alexito
10-29-2005, 03:33 PM
I can't believe, nalbandian lost, mmmm, today play good, tomorrow bad

Sjengster
10-29-2005, 03:43 PM
marcos :worship:

ivan is looking good for the masters now

I thought you'd be a big Marcos fan after this result somehow. ;)

Deboogle!.
10-29-2005, 03:43 PM
Marcos!! :eek: :woohoo:

LaTenista
10-29-2005, 03:48 PM
:banana: Go Marcos, win your 1st ATP title now!

:sad: David. You'll have to work a bit harder now in Paris to qualify for Shanghai.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 03:48 PM
I thought you'd be a big Marcos fan after this result somehow. ;)

Anything to help Ljubo.

shotgun
10-29-2005, 03:51 PM
Nalbandian has to make better use of his talent. He has to worry less about rally championships in Cordoba and start to work on his head and his physics a little bit.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 03:54 PM
Nalbandian has to make better use of his talent. He has to worry less about rally championships in Cordoba and start to work on his head and his physics a little bit.

Couldn't have said it better, my friend.

Experimentee
10-29-2005, 04:15 PM
Marcos :woohoo:
Now win the title!

star
10-29-2005, 04:17 PM
:woohoo: :woohoo:

Marcos is such an appealing young talent. I hope he continues doing well.

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Merton
10-29-2005, 04:28 PM
An awesome result for Marcos, making the finals in Basel :rocker2: I don't think that he can prevail over Gonzo but he has nothing to lose and can have some fun out there. I hope he stays healthy from now on and the results will follow.

*julie*
10-29-2005, 04:29 PM
Well done Marcos :D

NYCtennisfan
10-29-2005, 05:01 PM
Wasn't expecting this one....great win Marcos!

Tian
10-29-2005, 05:15 PM
What an incredibly talented boy :eek:

His touch is amazing, he really uses it well :yeah:

TenHound
10-29-2005, 06:38 PM
Wonderful!! Hope this is the breakthrough I've been waiting for. Hard to say he's been the slowest youngster to emerge, since he just got his own coach. I hope they've made whatever adjustments to his forehand, or his workout regimen, are needed to keep him from constantly injuring his elbow. He's a delight to watch, definitely my fave among the youngsters.

Rex
10-29-2005, 07:05 PM
well played marcos

Viken01
10-29-2005, 07:18 PM
DAVID :(
marcos :)

Jennay
10-29-2005, 07:21 PM
:eek:

Congrats to Marcos - he's had an awesome week. :yeah: :bounce:

Flibbertigibbet
10-29-2005, 07:39 PM
Yes! Wow, I definitely didn't foresee a straight sets victory from Marcos's end. Nice to see. I really hope he can beat Gonzalez tomorrow, but he's the definite underdog. Whatever happens, I think it's been a breakthrough tournament for him.

tangerine_dream
10-29-2005, 08:10 PM
Wow :eek: Well done Marcos. :cool: Now take the title :bounce:

rofe
10-29-2005, 08:13 PM
I have heard a lot about Marcos's potential - I would like to see him play. Hopefully he will be consistent enough and go deep in tournaments next year so that I can get a chance to see him.

Nalby as usual disappointed me. Oh well.

musefanatic
10-29-2005, 08:27 PM
I was extremely impressed with marcos baghdatis, i thought his game was just brilliant and to beat nalbandian like that was just, wow! I really hope he can win tomorrow, he deserves it!

KoOlMaNsEaN
10-29-2005, 08:57 PM
great reaction NOW WIN IT ALL!! :bounce:

mandoura
10-29-2005, 09:07 PM
Marcos :bounce:

:woohoo:

Good Luck in the final. :)

superpinkone37
10-29-2005, 09:31 PM
Wow...good for Marcos! As much as I like the boy, I didn't really expect him to win lol. But I'm so happy for him! :banana: :banana: :banana:

Skyward
10-29-2005, 09:35 PM
Good for MB. I actually thought that Nalbandian was a bad match up for him.

TenHound
10-29-2005, 10:26 PM
Right Tian, he has Touch, power & speed...plus he can do things at net. Promising combo. & Fun to watch. Hint Hint ESPN - rather watch him than Pandy!! Happy to see he has so many followers already. Hope it's his breakthrough!! Or beginning of it. Can't wait to see his new ranking. Anyone know anything on that?

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 10:48 PM
Good for MB. I actually thought that Nalbandian was a bad match up for him.

Actually, Baghdatis is a poor match-up for Nalby.

myggen
10-29-2005, 11:05 PM
Seems like I am the only one here who finds Baghdatis annoying. Talented, but terribly annoying.