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Who has the best one-hand backhand in the business?

RaVeR
10-29-2005, 12:13 AM
Ljubicic?

ReturnWinner
10-29-2005, 12:18 AM
volandri then gaudio/guga then gasquet
other players: ljubicic haas,calleri ,pavel,acasuso and hanescu

*Viva Chile*
10-29-2005, 12:19 AM
Of the last decade: Guga
Rightly: Gasquet, Gaudio.

Honourable mentions to Ljubo, Robredo, Pavel, Calleri, Volandri, Haas

vincayou
10-29-2005, 12:23 AM
Gaudio, Gasquet. Gasquet has more power in it. I don't think he would want to exchange it with anyone else on the tour.

sampaio
10-29-2005, 12:26 AM
Gasquet ,Kuerten ,Gaudio ,Gasquet ,Haas ,Gasquet ,Volandri ,Gasquet ,Gasquet,O.Rochus and of course Gasquet.

Phunkadelicious
10-29-2005, 12:31 AM
Gasquet :worship: no one even comes close (sorry Guga)

robinhood
10-29-2005, 12:34 AM
Gaudio, Haas, Ljubicic

blosson
10-29-2005, 12:39 AM
still Guga.

bad gambler
10-29-2005, 01:17 AM
gaudio or richie

Sjengster
10-29-2005, 01:19 AM
GG or RG, but advantage to the latter since it seems to be effective on more surfaces. The backhand winner he hit down the line to break in the second set against Ginepri at the US Open was the most stunning shot off that wing I can ever remember seeing anywhere, and momentarily took the crowd's breath away.

I have no idea what Robredo's backhand is doing in that one list above (no offence intended). It's an awful shot that he tends to spin wide of the sidelines whenever he tries to hit it with any real pace.

Jimnik
10-29-2005, 01:20 AM
The 3 G's:

Guga, Gasquet and Gaudio.

Flibbertigibbet
10-29-2005, 01:31 AM
Among current top 30 players, I like Gaudio's, Gasquet's, and Federer's one-handers a lot. Everyone says Kuerten has an awesome one-handed backhand, but unfortunately, I didn't get to see much of him.

Sjengster
10-29-2005, 01:31 AM
Threads like this always make me a little sad, because I know that this time two years ago Schalken would have at least cracked the Top 10 of single-handers.

Grinder
10-29-2005, 01:33 AM
Guga has the best one handed backhand I've ever seen, the power he's able to generate of that wing is just scary. The only person that can even draw comparisons to Guga's backhand is Richard Gasquet.

Other good backhands:

Roger Federer, Gaston Gaudio, Tommy Haas, Fillipo Volandri, Sjeng Schalken, Andrei Pavel's can be good when he's thinking, Ivan Ljubicic, Cyril Saulnier and Jose Acasuso have pretty big backhands as well.

PaulieM
10-29-2005, 01:33 AM
gaudio's is beautiful. also like gasquet's and federer's. :)

Sjengster
10-29-2005, 01:36 AM
Guga has the best one handed backhand I've ever seen, the power he's able to generate of that wing is just scary. The only person that can even draw comparisons to Guga's backhand is Richard Gasquet.

Other good backhands:

Roger Federer, Gaston Gaudio, Tommy Haas, Fillipo Volandri, Sjeng Schalken, Andrei Pavel's can be good when he's thinking, Ivan Ljubicic, Cyril Saulnier and Jose Acasuso have pretty big backhands as well.

:yeah: And it's no coincidence that I like all of those players with the significant exception of Tommy Boy (well, I suppose I'm fairly indifferent to Saulnier, but probably because you don't see much of him).

shotgun
10-29-2005, 01:38 AM
The other day i saw an interview with Guga on brazilian TV and he said that he considered Gasquet's one-handed backhand the most similar to his in the tour nowadays.

Poljud
10-29-2005, 01:38 AM
Guga was...but now Gasquet and Ljubicic.

BlackSilver
10-29-2005, 01:45 AM
Gaudio, and Gasquet.

Guga used to have the best, but his current backhand, like the rest of his game, is a shadow of what used to be.

Grinder
10-29-2005, 01:54 AM
Guga's backhand now is an inconsistent, more go for broke versoin of his backhand when he playing in his prime. The backhand winners he was ripping against Goldstein at the US Open were unbelievable, but then again, so were his errors...

mangoes
10-29-2005, 01:56 AM
Gasquet, Gaudio, Ljubicic

NYCtennisfan
10-29-2005, 02:46 AM
I have no idea what Robredo's backhand is doing in that one list above (no offence intended). It's an awful shot that he tends to spin wide of the sidelines whenever he tries to hit it with any real pace.

It's not as good as the best but it is not an awful shot at all. Ask Marat Safin. Robredo's BH contolled a lot of points against the mad Russian. It's nice and compact and smooth.

GAsquet's might challenge Guga's BH in time. Gaudio of course. I'm surprise Fed hasn't gotten mentioned as he has the best passing shots from that wing. O. Rochus also takes the ball very early from the BH side and has a nice compact, smooth stroke.

Sjengster
10-29-2005, 02:49 AM
Compact and smooth? He takes big swings at the ball when he tries to muscle it as hard as the forehand, which is why he mishits so many wide of the court. Maybe it was effective for that match against Safin (I seem to remember the forehand doing more damage, though I could be mistaken), but I've seen plenty of his matches where it's no more than an average stroke at best.

vincayou
10-29-2005, 02:51 AM
Kohlschreiber's one is not bad at all either.

NYCtennisfan
10-29-2005, 02:56 AM
Compact and smooth? He takes big swings at the ball when he tries to muscle it as hard as the forehand, which is why he mishits so many wide of the court. Maybe it was effective for that match against Safin (I seem to remember the forehand doing more damage, though I could be mistaken), but I've seen plenty of his matches where it's no more than an average stroke at best.

This is when he is on the run most of the time. I have seen many matches when he can control points with the stroke.

Kohlschreiber's one is not bad at all either.

Very nice. He displayed it well during the grass season this year before Wimby until he ran into a better BH in Richie.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 03:04 AM
Karlovic....J/K.

NYCtennisfan
10-29-2005, 03:06 AM
and Jose Acasuso have pretty big backhands as well.

Forgot to mention this one. Inconsistent, but can be smooth and deadly going either CC or DTL and you can't really tell which one when he is on. He needs to work on his footwork on surfaces other than clay so he can get into better position to hit tha BH. I saw him many times during the summer not be in the right position to hit that pretty shot.

NYCtennisfan
10-29-2005, 03:06 AM
Karlovic....J/K.

LOL! I'd pay money just to watch that beauty in practice.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 03:07 AM
LOL! I'd pay money just to watch that beauty in practice.

That one and LaLo's famous backhand, as well. :o

BlackSilver
10-29-2005, 03:08 AM
I'm surprise Fed hasn't gotten mentioned as he has the best passing shots from that wing.

I disagree if you are refering to his passing shots as the best in all cases, and I agree if you are refering to the best passing shots from a one-hand backhand, or the best on fast surfaces.

Anyway, Federer should have been cited

Sjengster
10-29-2005, 03:10 AM
Actually, Karlo has much better technique on his topspin backhand than Feli does, it must be a product of a claycourt upbringing as all Croats have. The trouble is, he can only apply himself mentally enough to hit it in about 1 in 10.

NYCtennisfan
10-29-2005, 03:10 AM
That one and LaLo's famous backhand, as well.

I'd pay extra money to watch those two practice if they promised to have only BH to BH exchanges. No FH's allowed.

NYCtennisfan
10-29-2005, 03:12 AM
I disagree if you are refering to his passing shots as the best in all cases, and I agree if you are refering to the best passing shots from a one-hand backhand, or the best on fast surfaces.

One handers but he is up there amongst everyone because he can get to so many balls and not have to throw up defensive lobs even though he probably has the best defensive lob in the game. Agassi or Hewitt for overall.

NYCtennisfan
10-29-2005, 03:13 AM
Actually, Karlo has much better technique on his topspin backhand than Feli does, it must be a product of a claycourt upbringing as all Croats have. The trouble is, he can only apply himself mentally enough to hit it in about 1 in 10.

He also has a hell of a time bending down far enough sometimes to get a good whack or a hard time getting to the ball in time and getting down to get a good swing.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 03:14 AM
I'd pay extra money to watch those two practice if they promised to have only BH to BH exchanges. No FH's allowed.

That's why these two have shitty matches. They both make an inordinate amount of UE's on that wing.

Sjengster
10-29-2005, 03:15 AM
Yes, that too. Watching the Roddick match made me wonder whether he should just hustle on every return point a la Mirnyi or Dent, so effective was he up at net with his wingspan, but it seems to me that like a lot of Croats he prefers to hang at the back rather passively, even though he's obviously aggressive behind his own serve.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 03:16 AM
Speaking of Dent, isn't his a "thing" of beauty?

BlackSilver
10-29-2005, 03:18 AM
One handers but he is up there amongst everyone because he can get to so many balls and not have to throw up defensive lobs even though he probably has the best defensive lob in the game. Agassi or Hewitt for overall.

They are very good in this department, of course, but I wouldn't give this title for them.
Coria and Nadal for me (not counting lobs)

Sjengster
10-29-2005, 03:19 AM
His slice is pretty useful, if a little choppy, and he can hit some very good topspin ones as well. If you want to talk about ugly Dent shots, then mention the forehand - it's a horrible swat at the ball that he often rushes through because he's in such a hurry to get to the net behind it.

NYCtennisfan
10-29-2005, 03:22 AM
Yes, that too. Watching the Roddick match made me wonder whether he should just hustle on every return point a la Mirnyi or Dent, so effective was he up at net with his wingspan, but it seems to me that like a lot of Croats he prefers to hang at the back rather passively, even though he's obviously aggressive behind his own serve.

You would think that he would be better served (no pun intended) to attack more because he can't hang in rallies of more than a few shots because it is usually on his BH side that he is too late getting to the ball to bet a decent shot over.

cuterohini
10-29-2005, 03:38 AM
Ljubicic,gaudio,Puerta and gasquet...

Havok
10-29-2005, 03:43 AM
Gasquet's backhand is gorgeous and I normally despise one handed backhands :drool:.

Sjengster
10-29-2005, 03:45 AM
Is that why you're a fan of Haas as well?

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 03:50 AM
Aside from Feli, no one has mentioned any leftie one-handers. Why has the "one-handed" discussion included only righties?

Fergie
10-29-2005, 03:50 AM
Gaston, Ivan and Tommy :)

Grinder
10-29-2005, 03:58 AM
Aside from Feli, no one has mentioned any leftie one-handers. Why has the "one-handed" discussion included only righties?

Puerta has been mentioned.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 03:59 AM
My bad...I didn't see him.

Federerhingis
10-29-2005, 04:21 AM
Gaston, Ivan and Tommy :)

Not bad at all, Tommys is a very consistent but it tends to be too defensive to be a really effective shot at times. Gaston I guess is the curent king of the one handed backhand, its a sick shot. Gasquet could be the king of this stroke if he were more consistent on it. Guga used to be the undisputed king on this stroke without a doubt.

Billabong
10-29-2005, 04:59 AM
Guga:worship: Absolutely fantastic, nobody comes close to his:yeah:!

silverwhite
10-29-2005, 05:54 AM
The 3 G's:

Guga, Gasquet and Gaudio.

Nicely put. :worship:

Bluemoon
10-29-2005, 06:12 AM
Gasquet. He seemes to make winners so easily, even
he is behind the baseline.

Action Jackson
10-29-2005, 06:20 AM
Guga at his best and I remember the fun backhand battles he had with Gaudio on clay, great to watch.

Gasquet, Calleri ( when in form) are also worth watching.

Nawoo
10-29-2005, 06:27 AM
What about Andrei Pavel?

I think he has a very nice backhand too

pretty darn consistant

safdem
10-29-2005, 06:39 AM
gasquet :worship:

diegogg
10-29-2005, 06:49 AM
This is a great thread to read simply because we're talkin about the most beautiful stroke in tennis, I mean just watching the motion makes me shake, when it is heat cleanly esp DTL.
Gaston's the king of course.:bigclap:

Action Jackson
10-29-2005, 06:49 AM
Pavel has an excellent backhand, though he it's starting to lose some of its potency sadly.

Lee
10-29-2005, 07:04 AM
Guga, Gaudio and Gasquet are the best whom I have the pleasure to watch.

Even today, Guga's bh is still the best. He has more errors now because he's pressed to finish his points fast as his movement is very limited nowadays. He used to set up his points nicely with both forehand and backhand, dictating the play and finally went for the kill with either a fh or bh dtl.

case
10-29-2005, 08:54 AM
Gasquet has the best. It just flows. Kuerten obviously should be mentioned, but as said before hes not what he used to be. But then, I dont think Gasquet has reached his full potential either.

Rex
10-29-2005, 09:21 AM
gasquet, gaudio, and prolly guga

Galaxystorm
10-29-2005, 09:27 AM
Gasquet

Frederick16
10-29-2005, 09:44 AM
gasquet gaudio and volandri...

Horatio Caine
10-29-2005, 11:10 AM
LMAO! Another daft Ljubo thread....these guys keep me going. :haha: :haha:

Raver - it doesn't quite beat the "Ancic is #2 on grass" one though ;)

Neely
10-29-2005, 11:42 AM
I don't understand why Ljubicic's backhand got mentioned in this thread among people like Federer, Gaudio, Guga, Gasquet, Haas :lol: (was it serious?)Maybe it is so special because it is clearly better than his forehand; and Ljubicic's backhand is of course no crappy or bad shot, but Ljubicic's backhand really has nothing of the class that players like for example, before-mentioned ones can do on their backhand side.

Deivid23
10-29-2005, 11:52 AM
Ljubicic?

:lol:

Deivid23
10-29-2005, 11:53 AM
LaLo

DhammaTiger
10-29-2005, 12:19 PM
Guga, Gasquet, Puerta, Volandri, Federer, Gonzalez,Calleri, Gaudio. Not necessarily in that order.

sampaio
10-29-2005, 12:24 PM
Don't Forget Him!!

http://www.meet-success.de/Upload/Kohlschreiber2-web.jpg

A probably future great player.

keqtqiadv
10-29-2005, 01:02 PM
Gasquet, Gaudio and Volandri

kosi
10-29-2005, 01:09 PM
Gasquet, Gaudio and Volandri

Yeah.. Gasquet BH is devastating and spectacular to watch.
But, in grass, Federer has the best BH, IMO :p

nermo
10-29-2005, 09:35 PM
Roger Federer
and he's far from being the king but Tom Haas has an interesting backhand...

Denisse
10-29-2005, 10:19 PM
Gaudio's is amazing and by far the best nowadays.

Havok
10-29-2005, 10:37 PM
Is that why you're a fan of Haas as well?
I just enjoy watching Tommy as a player. He does play power tennis, but not full blown power tennis like Roddick does. He uses the whole court and can rip some awesome backhand down the lines. I never become a fave of a player just for one shot, I need to like the whole package as well :p. (though it does help Tommy's case that I enjoy his one hander ;))

Effka
10-29-2005, 11:19 PM
Gasquet and Gaudio :worship:

Acasuso's backhand is also pretty, inconsistent though. But when he's in mood for playing his dtl one, i go like :eek: on return especially.

And Guga's backhand still impresses me - i didn't manage to watch his whole match against Coria in Sopot, but my short review of that match was 'thankfully i saw couple of those backhands, praise the lord'.

Sjengster
10-29-2005, 11:25 PM
I loved Chucho's no-footwork step to his left and casual swatting of a backhand return down the line to win that 13-11 tiebreak against Horna at the US Open. He hit a very similar shot against him in Cincy in the final game of the match, just ambled across to the serve and stroked it over the high part of the net right into the opposite corner.

ultraX
10-30-2005, 12:06 AM
Watching Gasquet & Gaudio hitting their one-handed backhand is so cool...
Blake is also have a good one.
Guga's bh used to be really good. I think his bh was the best after Lendl.

What u guys think of Federer's one-handed bh?? Is it that spectacular to watch him hitting it?

Deboogle!.
10-30-2005, 12:10 AM
Gasquet, hands-down.

:hearts: that shot is a thing of total beauty.

Phunkadelicious
10-30-2005, 12:12 AM
Gasquet, hands-down.

:hearts: that shot is a thing of total beauty.

:worship: :hearts:

star
10-30-2005, 01:20 AM
GUGA!! :inlove:

Flibbertigibbet
10-30-2005, 01:55 AM
Watching Gasquet & Gaudio hitting their one-handed backhand is so cool...
Blake is also have a good one.
Guga's bh used to be really good. I think his bh was the best after Lendl.

What u guys think of Federer's one-handed bh?? Is it that spectacular to watch him hitting it?

Federer, to me, makes do with more variety than sheer power and outright winners in his backhand, so it probably won't be as spectacular on a consistent basis, though seeing him hit a one-handed backhand crosscourt pass that dips right within the service box... beautiful. But usually you won't see so many of those, and his backhand is most definitely more prone to being off (see: US Open final) than his forehand.

MissMoJo
10-30-2005, 02:18 AM
but who is Queen? my vote goes to F.Lo

peteslamz
10-30-2005, 06:39 AM
Federer and Gasquet's

Federerhingis
10-30-2005, 07:28 AM
Guga, Gaudio and Gasquet are the best whom I have the pleasure to watch.

Even today, Guga's bh is still the best. He has more errors now because he's pressed to finish his points fast as his movement is very limited nowadays. He used to set up his points nicely with both forehand and backhand, dictating the play and finally went for the kill with either a fh or bh dtl.

Classic indeed, traditionally followed by his classic moan. :worship:

Peoples
10-30-2005, 11:37 AM
King means you have to mention one player... so I say Kuerten.

richard gasquet
10-30-2005, 05:36 PM
the best bh is richard gasquet :angel:

nice one: gaudio,blake,federer :)

GonzoFan
10-30-2005, 05:39 PM
King means you have to mention one player... so I say Kuerten.

:yeah:

etiage
10-30-2005, 06:27 PM
guga
his backhand was still gorgeous the last time i saw him during us open

DhammaTiger
10-30-2005, 07:09 PM
Today Gonzo proved he was there at the top as king of the one handed backhand. What sublime winners he made with his backhands

nermo
10-30-2005, 07:30 PM
What u guys think of Federer's one-handed bh?? Is it that spectacular to watch him hitting it? posted by UltraX

it may not be that spectacular from the power point of view , but when it's on , i think it's very effective and beautiful to watch. :) just forgive my memory, but as a recent example, remember his match against Hewitt in the USopen? i can say it meant a lot in this match. and afterall, i don't think Federer depends on that much of a power than for placing his shots.

Action Jackson
11-30-2005, 01:08 PM
LaLo has a killer backhand.

DrJules
11-30-2005, 01:23 PM
Richard Gasquet. It offers more variety and options than any other backhand on tour. Gaudio and Federer have backhands which seem limited in comparison in terms of what they can do with theirs.

iliketennis
11-30-2005, 01:30 PM
Gaudio has the best one-handed backhand in the game.

juanqui.ferrero
11-30-2005, 02:55 PM
To me, Tommy Robredo has the best backhand with Feds.

stebs
11-30-2005, 04:14 PM
Richard. then Gaston. then Roger.

Tourmalante
11-30-2005, 05:09 PM
Richard Gasquet. It offers more variety and options than any other backhand on tour. Gaudio and Federer have backhands which seem limited in comparison in terms of what they can do with theirs.

We gush about Richard's backhand because of the potency of his bh drive down the line and cross court. Not because of his bh's variety. I haven't seen Gasquet reveal as varied a backhand stroke as Federer yet in terms of being able to apply various types of spin, potency of passing shot, potency of slice, etc. I think you must have things mixed up or something. It's Gasquet's beauty of form and phenomenal pace and length that make his backhand extraordinary, not its variety.

Hendu
11-30-2005, 05:35 PM
1. Gaston Gaudio: he can do everything with his backhand while attacking or defending. He makes great drop shots, lobs, he uses topspin and slice, his passing shots cross court and down the line are great....

2. Richard Gasquet: he generates a lot of power, and (like Gaudio) uses all the spins, if he gets more consistent he could be the new king.

3. Tommy Haas: one of the best one handed backhands in the game, when he is on.

4. Federer: this is supposed to be his weakest shot :o He makes great passing shots with his bh. Specially running backhands.

5. Ljubicic: he has a nice backhand, very powerfull. But I always feel his backhand is one dimensional, the same shot again and again...

Volandri, Puerta, Acasuso (the list goes on): second tier one handed backhands...

Honorable mention: Mr. Guga Kuerten - former undisputable king.

lau
11-30-2005, 05:49 PM
We gush about Richard's backhand because of the potency of his bh drive down the line and cross court. Not because of his bh's variety. I haven't seen Gasquet reveal as varied a backhand stroke as Federer yet in terms of being able to apply various types of spin, potency of passing shot, potency of slice, etc. I think you must have things mixed up or something. It's Gasquet's beauty of form and phenomenal pace and length that make his backhand extraordinary, not its variety.
you didn´t find another hobby? :p :lol:

mandoura
11-30-2005, 05:49 PM
Guga

Gasquet

Gaudio

tangerine_dream
11-30-2005, 06:13 PM
I don't know who has the best but I really like Gaudio's one-hander. It's purdy. :hearts:

AgassiDomination
11-30-2005, 06:15 PM
I'd say Lujbicic because that thing is really wild and powerful.

Alexiana
11-30-2005, 06:56 PM
Gaudio and Haas

George_Hanson
11-30-2005, 06:58 PM
Richard Gasquet, some of his backhands make my whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. He just needs stability

almouchie
11-30-2005, 09:47 PM
GUGA,
Gaudio

nermo
11-30-2005, 09:59 PM
right now ,Federer..his backhand might not be that strong, but beautiful placement and accuracy especially when things is going ok with his backhand slice. :)
for older talents,Mansour bahrami's backhand,it is just magical . i know he might not be that known or favored here,but i recently watched the guy on an exhibiton match with Nastase versus M.stich and Amritraj. amazing :bigclap:

Adman
12-01-2005, 04:12 PM
Richard Gasquet the master of the one handed backhand, pure genius.

ugotlobbed
12-02-2005, 06:07 AM
no, king of one hand backhand is mariano puerta

Marat Safinator
12-02-2005, 04:04 PM
kuerten, calleri, gasquet, phillipousis, guadio.

ysun
09-28-2006, 08:08 PM
Here are several interesting polls:
(1) Who has the best onehanded backhand? (http://bbs.kultd.com/viewtopic.php?t=18)
(2) Who is the best shotmaker in the business? (http://bbs.kultd.com/viewtopic.php?t=25)
(3) Who is the toughest opponent for Rafael Nadal? (http://bbs.kultd.com/viewtopic.php?t=27)

Feel free to add your comments.

bobjoe66
09-28-2006, 08:27 PM
why not have it as a poll here instead of a link?

kuertens is explosive
gaudio, federer nice to watch

doesnt ljubicic have a single handed backhand too? thats pretty big he just goes for it.

and calleri too? i think, not sure from top of my head.

NeverSayDie
09-28-2006, 08:48 PM
The link don't work for me :( Federers obviously but Gasquet's is my fave ;)

andygabriela
09-28-2006, 09:28 PM
Gaston Gaudio, who more? jeje :p

Mechlan
09-28-2006, 09:33 PM
Er, why do you have a link to a poll in another message board? And no offense, but there have been at least a dozen threads on the same topic created in the past.

Melvins
09-28-2006, 10:55 PM
:worship: GUSTAVO KUERTEN:worship:

Byrd
09-28-2006, 11:03 PM
Guga in the past
Federer for variety, and Gaudio and Gasquet for power.

ChinoRios4Ever
09-28-2006, 11:13 PM
GUGA ALL THE WAY

ysun
09-28-2006, 11:15 PM
Gaston Gaudio, who more? jeje :p

Sorry, I joined the forum today and haven't got chance to browse through. The link provided is actually my forum. I will certainly put more interesting polls there.

ysun
09-28-2006, 11:20 PM
why not have it as a poll here instead of a link?

kuertens is explosive
gaudio, federer nice to watch

doesnt ljubicic have a single handed backhand too? thats pretty big he just goes for it.

and calleri too? i think, not sure from top of my head.

I put only the players that I think having the best one-hand backhand. Ljubicic's is explosive but ugly to watch. I didn't even add Andrei Pavel or Jose Acasuso to the list, not mentioning many more who are better than Ljubicic's backhand.

Naranoc
09-28-2006, 11:41 PM
Roddick's backhand down-the-line passing shot is the best in the business ;)

Damn, that's two handed...

leng jai
09-29-2006, 01:34 AM
Tommy Haas

ysun
09-29-2006, 02:15 AM
Tommy Haas

You are the first person saying that Tommy is the best.

GlennMirnyi
09-29-2006, 02:58 AM
People who don't choose Kuerten have never seen him in his prime.

Fergie
09-29-2006, 03:11 AM
Guga and Gaston

plusman
09-29-2006, 03:16 AM
Tommy Haas

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-29-2006, 04:04 AM
Guga

GlennMirnyi
09-29-2006, 04:08 AM
Guga

Your first reasonable post here.
Congratulations. I know it must be hard to make sense, but it's good sometimes.

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-29-2006, 04:10 AM
Your first reasonable post here.
Congratulations. I know it must be hard to make sense, but it's good sometimes.

We agree on something. :rolleyes:

P.S. I always make sense. The only way you will ever make sense is if you agree with me.

Nando_L
09-29-2006, 04:13 AM
Guga forever :p

GlennMirnyi
09-29-2006, 04:16 AM
We agree on something. :rolleyes:

P.S. I always make sense. The only way you will ever make sense is if you agree with me.

Yeah, right!
:haha:

aneevar
09-29-2006, 04:23 AM
what ever polls u put there is 99 % possibility of them having already been done . Plz make sure before starting one that its a new poll !

ysun
09-29-2006, 06:55 AM
what ever polls u put there is 99 % possibility of them having already been done . Plz make sure before starting one that its a new poll !

That might be true. I hope the players in last poll are still playing.

lorenz
09-29-2006, 03:24 PM
Gaudio and Federer, for sure

ysun
09-29-2006, 06:40 PM
Gasquet has more variety on his backhand side than Federer. The heavy topspin backhands made many of his opponents crazy at Canadian Open this year. Definitely, Gasquet's backhand is superior to Fed's.

leng jai
09-30-2006, 01:09 AM
Of course it is. Federer's backhand isn't even that good in the first place. Its just that people know that hes the best player in the world and a single hander so he have the best backhand too.

Ariadne
09-30-2006, 02:17 AM
Of course it is. Federer's backhand isn't even that good in the first place. Its just that people know that hes the best player in the world and a single hander so he have the best backhand too.

:rolleyes:

Tell me how many players can hit this backhand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAEFpkUDBRI&NR

Or this backhand dropshot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woDlxN8aJAk

Or this running backhand sliced lob:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOFPeOpO3wY

Or the backhand topspin lob at the 40 second mark of this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBYFnwUJP_8

And if you like I can link countless clips of Roger finding an impossible angle when his opponent has come in behind a crushed forehand in Fed's backhand corner.

Addendum:

The backhand at the 2 minute mark of this clip(the gasp by the crowd is hilarious):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-7ViEmbdSU

Plenty of great backhands here as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAT0LxVUf3s


Maybe I can dig up some Gasquet and Gaudio clips...:cool:

leng jai
09-30-2006, 02:36 AM
Yeah Federer can produce an awesome backhand once in a while on his good days. I doubt that lobs and dropshots can constitute a good backhand. The fact is that his backhand lacks penetration from the back of the court a lot of the time and his frames it far too often when hes under pressure.

Typical that a fedtard would jump on my back right after I make a negative comment on him.

Ariadne
09-30-2006, 02:54 AM
leng jai, you said "Federer's backhand isn't even that good in the first place", so I provided examples to counteract your statement. I explicitly did not say that Roger had the best forehead, but it is "good" or rather "better than good" nonetheless. The fact that it is considered weak is in comparision to the awesome technical profieciency and nous of the rest of his game, hence to qualify it with the blanket statement "not good" is doing an injustice to it.

And moi - "A Fedtard!" :lol: Wow, my first such accusation on these forums, I guess I'll take that as a compliment. :yeah:

leng jai
09-30-2006, 03:19 AM
I dunno, I just guessed according to your name and avatar :). Well I still stand by my comment that Federer's backhand is not even that good compared to the likes of Guga, Gasquet and Haas.

ysun
10-02-2006, 07:45 PM
I dunno, I just guessed according to your name and avatar :). Well I still stand by my comment that Federer's backhand is not even that good compared to the likes of Guga, Gasquet and Haas.

Agree.

ysun
10-03-2006, 08:31 PM
Result on 10/2/2006:

(1) Best onehand backhand: Richard Gasquet
(2) Best shotmaker: Roger Federer
(3) Rafa's worst mightmare: James Blake

Foosimoo
10-03-2006, 08:40 PM
Olivier Rochus ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39201000/jpg/_39201652_coria_ap300x300.jpg

stebs
10-03-2006, 08:48 PM
I dunno, I just guessed according to your name and avatar :). Well I still stand by my comment that Federer's backhand is not even that good compared to the likes of Guga, Gasquet and Haas.

Agree about Guga and Gasquet but Haas backhand isn't that brilliant. He can make some great shots with it but makes far too many errors as well.

leng jai
10-04-2006, 02:24 AM
Well thats true. Kuerten's and Gasquet's backhands are incredibly consistent for how well they hit it, but in terms of shotmaking ability Tommy's is right up there

martinatreue
10-04-2006, 08:14 AM
guga's backhand broke down on fast courts. Federer's holds up on all types of surfaces. Gasquet's backhand is beautiful but not as versatile as federer's. Overall, Federer's is best

leng jai
10-04-2006, 09:28 AM
Federer's backhand holds up on clay? His backhand is much weaker on clay than on hardcourt and grass. If there were clay courters around today he would struggle in the long baseline on clay IMO.

sampaio
10-04-2006, 09:40 AM
Guga in the past
Federer for variety, and Gaudio and Gasquet for power.


Gasquet has more variety than Fed.

Champion number 1
10-04-2006, 10:50 AM
Its not the best one hander, but Volandri's has got to be up there. I say Gasquet!

ysun
10-04-2006, 05:59 PM
guga's backhand broke down on fast courts. Federer's holds up on all types of surfaces. Gasquet's backhand is beautiful but not as versatile as federer's. Overall, Federer's is best

Gasquet's backhand is a weapon but Fed's can be barely called a weapon. If we are talking about forehand, I agree Fed's is superior.

rod99
10-04-2006, 11:37 PM
guga's backhand broke down on fast courts. Federer's holds up on all types of surfaces. Gasquet's backhand is beautiful but not as versatile as federer's. Overall, Federer's is best

huh? federer's backhand definitley does not hold up consistently on clay. look at the french open final this year. he had like 35 backhand errors to only 5 winners. get it up high on his backhand on clay and you'll get plenty of errors.

gulzhan
10-05-2006, 12:13 AM
gasquet's ;) his backhand is the best!
gaudio's as the shotmaker, and youzhny's ;) as rafa's nightmare!

i don't like fed's backhand :confused: it shots sometimes but fails him a lot too...

Checho
10-05-2006, 12:18 AM
Here are several interesting polls:
(1) Who has the best onehanded backhand? (http://bbs.kultd.com/viewtopic.php?t=18)
(2) Who is the best shotmaker in the business? (http://bbs.kultd.com/viewtopic.php?t=25)
(3) Who is the toughest opponent for Rafael Nadal? (http://bbs.kultd.com/viewtopic.php?t=27)

Feel free to add your comments.

1) Guga had the best backhand a few years ago, today Gaudio has the best one-hand backhand for sure.

2) The Best shotmaker is Roger Federer

3) On clay nobody, in the others surfaces maybe Blake or Berdych.

JMG
10-05-2006, 12:22 AM
Gaston Gaudio
Richard Gasquet
Maximilian Abel

remy23
10-05-2006, 01:26 AM
I rarely post and mostly lurk, but I need to ask a question that seems unasked and perhaps even unanswered for the duration of this entire thread. People keep pointing to Federer's troubles off the backhand side using the French Open as their point of reference. But am I the only person who believes Roger's backhand is clearly, without a shadow of a doubt better today than what it was then? Because if Roger has indeed improved and I'm not just under the spell of some illusion, then his already solid backhand is better than what's being given credit for.

World Beater
10-05-2006, 07:37 AM
fed's backhand is way better than haas backhand. this is so easy to see just by watching their matches. Federer can speed up the pace on the bh side, whereas haas plays topspin pretty much all the time, not to mention he doesnt have as a good of a slice. fed has a better slice than gasquet and kuerten's backhand wasnt all that great on faster surfaces, and he didnt really have a slice. federer's topspin bh isnt the best out there, but the total package of slice, topspin, flat puts him in top 5 overall in the bh side.

it seems that fed's weak shot is his backhand because his fh is unbelievable...

but seriously, whose backhands actually hold up against nadal on clay....60+ matches and counting. the answer is nobody yet, at least all those who have played against him.

federer's backhand is by far the most versatile on all surfaces. Federer plays the best defense out of anyone on the bh side w/ the low slices and he can rip the backhand beautifully.

his topspin backhand is not as consistent and reliable as say nalbandian, gaudio and is not as forceful as safin. but There is such a big double standard. when nalby and safin suck, its because they are headcases. when fed sucks its cos his bh is overrated...maybe its because safin and bandy's bh arent as consistent as you think. cos it isnt their forehands that win them matches. its so easy to point to matches where nalby, haas or safin have played well on the bh side, and use it as evidence, when in reality there are matches to demonsrate the opposite, just like there are for federer.

Action Jackson
10-05-2006, 09:08 AM
LaLo.

hitchhiker
10-05-2006, 09:29 AM
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/jun252005/img/tn_11.jpg

- off balance, wrong grip, confused expression on face, upper torso twisted to prevent any power, other arm gets dislocated during the shot ,follow through similar to someone swatting a fly. A backhand so beautiful it overshadows his hair.

sampaio
10-05-2006, 09:30 AM
fed has a better slice than gasquet

Well in fact nobody has ever seen Gasquet doing a slice since....?Gasquet doesn't slice on his BH at all ,not because it's his weak point ,it's just that his "gameplan" doesn't need that .But he still can do everything on every surfaces with talent and no weakness.

Geniey2g
10-05-2006, 09:55 AM
Gasquet's is so beautiful- I could watch him hit it all day.

World Beater
10-05-2006, 09:57 AM
Well in fact nobody has ever seen Gasquet doing a slice since....?Gasquet doesn't slice on his BH at all ,not because it's his weak point ,it's just that his "gameplan" doesn't need that .But he still can do everything on every surfaces with talent and no weakness.

its may not be a weak point, but it sure isnt a strong point, or as strong as federer. its not always the best idea to hit topspin bh's all the time...slices can be extremely effective both in offense and defense and can be a better option than the topspin bh sometimes. Gasquet's reluctance on fast courts to use it tells me that it isnt a strong point of his.

ginnylegend
10-05-2006, 01:05 PM
Rusedski

seanog
10-28-2006, 12:43 PM
People say Gaudio but i disagree Fed's is the best by far!

Rgask
10-28-2006, 12:52 PM
no one matches Gasquet's BH....He is the bestttttttt:cool:

Alexiana
10-28-2006, 12:56 PM
Haas, Gaudio, Gasquet, Federer

Action Jackson
10-28-2006, 12:58 PM
This has been done only 33333333333333333333 times.

Neely
10-28-2006, 01:04 PM
This has been done only 33333333333333333333 times.
out of this vast number, I hope I found a good one to combine it with.

Action Jackson
10-28-2006, 01:05 PM
out of this vast number, I hope I found a one to combine it with.

You have done very well.

leng jai
10-28-2006, 02:37 PM
Does Xristos have a single handed backhand?

Ernham
10-28-2006, 02:47 PM
fed's backhand is way better than haas backhand. this is so easy to see just by watching their matches. Federer can speed up the pace on the bh side, whereas haas plays topspin pretty much all the time, not to mention he doesnt have as a good of a slice. fed has a better slice than gasquet and kuerten's backhand wasnt all that great on faster surfaces, and he didnt really have a slice. federer's topspin bh isnt the best out there, but the total package of slice, topspin, flat puts him in top 5 overall in the bh side.

it seems that fed's weak shot is his backhand because his fh is unbelievable...


According to you, Santoro must be the GOD of tennis. Just give it up. No one with a brain in their head believes Federer's backhand is better than Haas's. Federer's game isn't perfect, so what? Live with it. It was just revealed yesterday how much a liability Federer's backhand still actually is. Perhaps you saw that? Or perhaps you should have?

Voo de Mar
10-28-2006, 03:00 PM
Of the last decade: Guga
Rightly: Gasquet, Gaudio.


I agree. Arnaud Boetsch had a beautiful one-handed backhand. He played so many times backhand from the forehand side, which is rarity. :tennis:

Action Jackson
10-28-2006, 03:12 PM
According to you, Santoro must be the GOD of tennis. Just give it up. No one with a brain in their head believes Federer's backhand is better than Haas's. Federer's game isn't perfect, so what? Live with it. It was just revealed yesterday how much a liability Federer's backhand still actually is. Perhaps you saw that? Or perhaps you should have?

According to you, Haas is one of the greatest ever talents to have played the game and he is just not that good.

He has an excellent backhand that is obvious and that is the only thing Haas does better than Federer.

Ernham
10-28-2006, 03:17 PM
According to you, Haas is one of the greatest ever talents to have played the game and he is just not that good.

Not really. Even if he chased all his various demons away, I doubt he could consistently stay in the top 5, though he could easily stay in the top ten.


He has an excellent backhand that is obvious and that is the only thing Haas does better than Federer.

Well, that was the whole point. Glad it wasn't lost on you.

Action Jackson
10-28-2006, 03:20 PM
Not really. Even if he chased all his various demons away, I doubt he could consistently stay in the top 5, though he could easily stay in the top ten.

Well, that was the whole point. Glad it wasn't lost on you.

If Haas stays in the top 20 that is good enough for him.

Ernham
10-28-2006, 03:24 PM
If Haas stays in the top 20 that is good enough for him.

In his current erratic form and injury prone nature, sure.

marcRD
10-28-2006, 03:46 PM
Federers backhand is much better than Haas, not only the slice, but the defense on his backhand is the best I have ever seen from a one handed backhand, his return of power serves with the backhand is nothing short of miracolous, his passing shots with the backhand are the best in the business.

Comparing backhands is more complex than who has the more power and who can dictate better with the backhand. Federers backhand is totaly amazing, I would not change that backhand against any other backhand in the tour.

Gasquet and Guga probably have just as good backhand, with more power and acuracy but with less finess and variety.

Haas is simply not in the same league, he is a mediocre player with no really impressive weapons if you ask me. Ofcourse I will get his fans against me, but this is my opinion. When Federer faces Haas his backhand completely owns Haas backhand, Federer plays Haas around with his backhand like if Haas was a little kid.

Ernham
10-28-2006, 03:48 PM
Fedtard psychosis alert. Please be advised.:devil:

leng jai
10-28-2006, 03:54 PM
Man you're funny. Guess you didn't watch Haas Vs Federer at the Aus Open this year?

sharpeirob
10-28-2006, 03:57 PM
Acasuso :inlove:
Gasquet
Gaudio :headbang:

Why?

Because I say so

marcRD
10-28-2006, 07:55 PM
Man you're funny. Guess you didn't watch Haas Vs Federer at the Aus Open this year?


Guess you didnt watch all other matches between Federer and Haas this year. Not to mention how Federer raised his game when it mattered in the 5th set and Haas couldnt do anything about it.

Haas is not a problem for Federer. Gasquet and Kuerten does take advantage of their better backhands in rallies against Federer, but Kuerten and Gasquet cant return powerful serves with their backhand like Federer do and they are not as good at passing oponents with their backhand like Federer.

There are many things that need to be mentioned here. Federers backhand is only weak against Nadal on clay if you ask me and I think Gasquets backhand was just as weak in RG against Nadal. Not to forget Haas who was slaughtered by Haas on hardcourt and his backhand was awful in that match, no answer to Nadals topspin.

Many here are taking advantage that Federers backhand is not working at the moment. Lets not forget Federers backhand was actualy stronger than his forehand in Toronto, these thins shift around.

The most underrated part of Federers game is how he perfectly sets his forehand up in ralies with his amazing backhand (which is constantly attacked by his opponents without any success). You cant win rallies with a weak spot in your shot arsenal, take Roddick as an example. Federer cant outrally opponents only with a forehand and a just avarage backhand.

marcRD
10-29-2006, 12:54 PM
Fedtard psychosis alert. Please be advised.:devil:

Youre an idiot, just because I have a different opinion I am a tard?

I never called Nadal a pig or anything and never said Federer was the god I worship, I just admire his amazing artistery on court because I love tennis. Does that make me a tard? Or saying that he has a greater backhand than Tommy Haas?

These are all opinions, get over it. Make real arguments and stop calling people names. I am here to discuss tennis not start a fckng war against the evil minions of the Nadal fanbase.

richie21
10-29-2006, 12:57 PM
Haas is not a problem for Federer. Gasquet and Kuerten does take advantage of their better backhands in rallies against Federer, but Kuerten and Gasquet cant return powerful serves with their backhand like Federer do and they are not as good at passing oponents with their backhand like Federer.


if you had seen his matches against Safin and Soderling this week,you certainly wouldn t say that ;)
i often criticized his return of serve(both in forehand and backhand) but now i have to admit that he has improved a LOT in that area.
some of his backhand returns against Safin were :drool:

marcRD
10-29-2006, 12:59 PM
if you had seen his matches against Safin and Soderling this week,you certainly wouldn t say that ;)
i often criticized his return of serve(both in forehand and Backhand) but now i have to admit that he has improved a LOT in that area.

Sorry, I havent seen them. I have seen other matches where Gasquets return of serve is quite mediocre to tell the truth. Ofcourse Gasquet is a great player in the making there is still time to improve everything. However the step to become a genius from beeing an amazing talent is hard to take.

Klaas_nalbandian
10-29-2006, 01:00 PM
I love the backhand of Sjeng Schaken down the line

Ernham
10-29-2006, 01:01 PM
Youre an idiot, just because I have a different opinion I am a tard?

I never called Nadal a pig or anything and never said Federer was the god I worship, I just admire his amazing artistery on court because I love tennis. Does that make me a tard? Or saying that he has a greater backhand than Tommy Haas?

Haas's backhand is a reliable weapon. Federer's backhand is a massive liability. That plain enough English for you? Did you watch Paradorn yesterday go to federer's backhand every server and rally to that his backside 90% of the time?

ExcaliburII
10-29-2006, 01:03 PM
Gaudio's and Guga's no doubt

marcRD
10-29-2006, 01:05 PM
According to you, Santoro must be the GOD of tennis. Just give it up. No one with a brain in their head believes Federer's backhand is better than Haas's. Federer's game isn't perfect, so what? Live with it. It was just revealed yesterday how much a liability Federer's backhand still actually is. Perhaps you saw that? Or perhaps you should have?

You are totaly underrating the slice here. Santoro beats many great tennis players only with the slice, that is how powerful the slice is. The problem with Santoro is that he has no power game to get advantage of his slice, if he had he would be a top player without any doubt. Federer is kind of Santoro with a power game, it makes all the differense. Federers forehand is not better than the shot that sets up the forehand. His backhand is underrated, all players try to only play on his backhand and they still cant outplay him (except Nadal). No one has ever had as many options as Federer on the backhand side.

mickymouse
10-29-2006, 01:05 PM
Gaudio and Gasquet.
Definitely not Haas, despite what he thinks.

marcRD
10-29-2006, 01:08 PM
Haas's backhand is a reliable weapon. Federer's backhand is a massive liability. That plain enough English for you? Did you watch Paradorn yesterday go to federer's backhand every server and rally to that his backside 90% of the time?

Federer is not playing very good right now, you are taking advantage of this. Did you see his backhand in USOPEN? In Madrid?

Much greter players than Schrishapan tried to constantly play on Federers backhand and failed miserably.

marcRD
10-29-2006, 01:12 PM
You are not greater than your weakest weapon.

Federer is not greater as a tennis player than his backhand. Sampras got around this problem by playing serve volley. Not Federer, he challenges everyone from the baseline. Federers backhand was weak in 2003, today it is only weak on clay gainst Nadal.

richie21
10-29-2006, 01:29 PM
Gaudio and Gasquet.
Definitely not Haas, despite what he thinks.

Gaudio's backhand is only effective on clay:o

marcRD
10-29-2006, 01:33 PM
Gaudio's backhand is only effective on clay:o

Yeah, outside clay Gasquet and Federers backhand is much better. Basicaly when we are speaking about onehanded backhands there are Federer and Gasquet and everyone else in todays tennis.

leng jai
10-29-2006, 01:47 PM
Lets put it this way. Federer's backhand is probably the best backhand in the world on grass. This is due to the low bounce, effectiveness of slice on the surface, the extended usefulness of the low backswing block and also the fact that passing shots are needed alot. The fact is that his topspin backhand sucks at the Australian Open and the French, where the bounce is higher.

You think that Federer sets up his forehand with his backhand a lot? He sets up his forehand with his forehand. Heavy, high bouncing forehands into the opponent's backhand which results in a short reply a lot of the time. Occasionally he may catch the opponent off guard with his slice. You going on about how good Federer's slice is which is indeed true. What you're forgetting is that Haas also has a very good slice, but not as good as Federer's.

If you watch Federer's matches where he is being challenged or trouble, 90% of the time his backhand is breaking down. He's probably the king of frame backhands when under pressure. When Tommy breaks down (which every second match) his forehand begins to crumble and he goes for crazy shots that have no hope of going in.

I've got so many Federer matches on tape where his backhand just plain sucks, and a lot of them are recent too. In my opinion, sometimes he is far better off slicing every backhand.