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BNP Paribas Masters

Viken01
10-28-2005, 09:15 PM
Single Draw

(1) RODDICK, Andy USA/Bye
GROSJEAN, Sebastien FRA v. DENT, Taylor USA

qualifier v. MONFILS, Gael FRA
Bye/(16) HRBATY, Dominik SVK


(10) FERRER, David ESP/Bye
MASSU, Nicolas CHI v. MIRNYI, Max BLR

PAVEL, Andrei ROM v. HAAS, Tommy GER
Bye/(5) NALBANDIAN, David ARG


Doubles Draw

(1) BJORKMAN, Jonas SWE/MIRNYI, Max BLR v. GAUDIO, Gaston ARG/PUERTA, Mariano ARG
HRBATY, Dominik SVK/JOHANSSON, Thomas SWE v. CERMAK, Frantisek CZE/DAMM, Martin CZE

(4) KNOWLES, Mark BAH/NESTOR, Daniel CAN v. FERRER, David ESP/ROBREDO, Tommy ESP
NALBANDIAN, David ARG/PRIETO, Sebastian ARG v. (WC) BENNETEAU, Julien FRA/MAHUT, Nicolas FRA

What a gay draw for nalby one time again :(

Björki
10-28-2005, 10:11 PM
crappy draw :devil:

Vamos David :bounce:

sigmagirl91
10-28-2005, 10:13 PM
Yucky draw...at least he has the opp to gain some points, since he didn't play here last year.

Kyla
10-28-2005, 10:49 PM
:woohoo: Paris draw already out? I'm so completely focused on Basel right now I completely forgot all about Paris...

But the draw could be worse methinks...

If I've calculated correctly, David is now 4 points behind Gaston (and will hopefully add another few points in Basel) so maybe (hopefully) he won't need that many points from Paris anyway... Of course always depending on how "the others" will do...

BTW: Has Lleyton withdrawn?

sigmagirl91
10-28-2005, 10:54 PM
BTW: Has Lleyton withdrawn?

Yes.
Now, it's Roger, Rafa, Carlos, Andre, and Lleyton.

Viken01
10-29-2005, 01:31 AM
it would be so great to see david playing the master in shangai :)

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 01:52 AM
It would be. In order for that to happen, David has to win this tournament and reach the quarters of Paris....this, of course, assuming that Davydenko loses his opening round match.

rachelzszs
10-29-2005, 04:05 AM
Davydenko is now playing wonderfully, and I believe he's gonna win more matches.
David has a tough trip.
Beside. Gaudio is good someshow.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 04:07 AM
Davydenko is now playing wonderfully, and I believe he's gonna win more matches.
David has a tough trip.
Beside. Gaudio is good someshow.

Thus far, Davydenko's had a poor indoor season, while David and Ivan have had impressive results. If that trend continues, I'm afraid that those two will edge him out for a place in Shanghai. Fortunately, David and Nik are on the opposite sides of the draw in Paris, and Agassi will have to wait until this tournament is over to see if his place is still secure.

If Davydenko loses in his opening round match, and David makes it to the quarters (assuming, of course, that he wins Basel), David will make Shanghai. And Ljubicic? He must make the semis (and David would have to lose in the quarters) to beat out David for a place and win Paris to knock Davydenko out.

That's a lot of math. Then again, I never said math was my strong suit. In the meantime, we must sit back and watch.

rachelzszs
10-29-2005, 04:07 AM
And the full draw:


(1) RODDICK, Andy USA/Bye
GROSJEAN, Sebastien FRA v. DENT, Taylor USA
qualifier v. MONFILS, Gael FRA
Bye/(16) HRBATY, Dominik SVK
(10) FERRER, David ESP/Bye
MASSU, Nicolas CHI v. MIRNYI, Max BLR
PAVEL, Andrei ROM v. HAAS, Tommy GER
Bye/(5) NALBANDIAN, David ARG

(4) PUERTA, Mariano ARG/Bye
qualifier v. HANESCU, Victor ROM
(WC) CLEMENT, Arnaud FRA v. KIEFER, Nicolas GER
Bye/(14) ROBREDO, Tommy ESP
(9) JOHANSSON, Thomas SWE/Bye
qualifier v. ROCHUS, Christophe BEL
ROCHUS, Olivier BEL v. BLAKE, James USA
Bye/(6) LJUBICIC, Ivan CRO

(8) STEPANEK, Radek/Bye
LOPEZ, Feliciano v. MALISSE, Xavier
SANGUINETTI, Davide v. MATHIEU, Paul-Henri
Bye/(11) GONZALEZ, Fernando
(15) ANCIC, Mario/Bye
HENMAN, Tim v. SPADEA, Vincent
RUSEDSKI, Greg v. qualifier
Bye/(3) DAVYDENKO, Nikolay

(7) GAUDIO, Gaston/Bye
NIEMINEN, Jarkko v. (WC) SANTORO, Fabrice
qualifier v. VERDASCO, Fernando
Bye/(12) GINEPRI, Robby
(13) FERRERO, Juan Carlos/Bye
qualifier v. (WC) SERRA, Florent
BERDYCH, Tomas v. NOVAK, Jiri
Bye/(2) CORIA, Guillermo

rachelzszs
10-29-2005, 04:16 AM
Thus far, Davydenko's had a poor indoor season, while David and Ivan have had impressive results. If that trend continues, I'm afraid that those two will edge him out for a place in Shanghai. Fortunately, David and Nik are on the opposite sides of the draw in Paris, and Agassi will have to wait until this tournament is over to see if his place is still secure.

If Davydenko loses in his opening round match, and David makes it to the quarters (assuming, of course, that he wins Basel), David will make Shanghai. And Ljubicic? He must make the semis (and David would have to lose in the quarters) to beat out David for a place and win Paris to knock Davydenko out.

That's a lot of math. Then again, I never said math was my strong suit. In the meantime, we must sit back and watch.

Agreed! :p
What we can do right now is to wait and see.
Whatsoever, I believe David will try his best and show his ambition.
Now the problem is : can David win Basel? So far it is still a proble. ;)
We just assume these results with a positive attitude :p

Caralimon
10-29-2005, 04:39 AM
If Davydenko loses in his opening round match, and David makes it to the quarters (assuming, of course, that he wins Basel), David will make Shanghai. And Ljubicic? He must make the semis (and David would have to lose in the quarters) to beat out David for a place and win Paris to knock Davydenko out.

David winning two matches and making to the quarters means that Ivan'd need an outstanding tournament and reaching the final. (to leave David behind)

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 04:41 AM
Then I stand corrected. Ivan was eliminated early from Lyon, which means he gained no points (I guess because he used up all his optional points?), while David could gain 49 points to make up for his "fifth-best result" in Rotterdam. If David ends up winning, then Ivan HAS to win Paris to overtake Davydenko and reach the final to overtake David.

gooner88
10-29-2005, 03:34 PM
Ferrer. :scared:
I hope Nalbo's not too tired, cause he can some damage there. He needs the points for Shanghai and for his ranking. He's now 12th in the entry rankings.
Bonne chance en Paris Nalbo. (some one correct me if I got that wrong in French.)

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 03:42 PM
Ferrer. :scared:
I hope Nalbo's not too tired, cause he can some damage there. He needs the points for Shanghai and for his ranking. He's now 12th in the entry rankings.
Bonne chance en Paris Nalbo. (some one correct me if I got that wrong in French.)

Oh yeah!!! Froggy awaits. In that case, forget Shanghai.

sophia_c
10-29-2005, 04:38 PM
Ferrer. :scared:
I hope Nalbo's not too tired, cause he can some damage there. He needs the points for Shanghai and for his ranking. He's now 12th in the entry rankings.
Bonne chance en Paris Nalbo. (some one correct me if I got that wrong in French.)

Gooner...good try with the french...its Bonne chance a Paris ;) ......I just hope david plays well....its just annoying that he always has a last surge at the end of the year...and plays well...if only there could be some consistency and he would get to the year end without having to rely on someone pulling out...or for some miracle....

gooner88
10-29-2005, 04:53 PM
Gooner...good try with the french...its Bonne chance a Paris ;) ......I just hope david plays well....its just annoying that he always has a last surge at the end of the year...and plays well...if only there could be some consistency and he would get to the year end without having to rely on someone pulling out...or for some miracle....

Thanks for correcting my French Sophia. :lol: :) I really have to brush up on my French!
Totally agree with you Sophia. I just hope next year he can learn from his mistakes this year and be more consistent throughout the year.
However I'm pleased he's found his good tennis again and is backing it up with results. After the U.S Open I wrote here saying that I hoped Nalbo would be more consistent, and 2 QF and 2 SF was just what the doctor ordered.

sigmagirl91
10-29-2005, 05:08 PM
Gooner...good try with the french...its Bonne chance a Paris ;) ......I just hope david plays well....its just annoying that he always has a last surge at the end of the year...and plays well...if only there could be some consistency and he would get to the year end without having to rely on someone pulling out...or for some miracle....

Couldn't agree with you more. If he had been more consistent throughout the year, Shanghai would be more of a certainty. A late-season surge and/or withdrawals of other players (if the German press is to be believed) is not what I consider a "good effort".

rachelzszs
10-29-2005, 06:12 PM
This time . you gonna never lose it anymore..........pLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
I BEG YOU! DAVID!

Björki
10-30-2005, 06:59 PM
Monday OOP

Court 2 Start at 5.00 pm
D. NALBANDIAN / S. PRIETO (ARG) vs J. BENNETEAU / N. MAHUT (FRA)

frula08
10-30-2005, 07:15 PM
i dont like the draw at all, roddick in QF, HE CAN BEAT RODDICK, BUT THEN LJUBICIC in the semis for a place in houston sounds scaring to me, i hope tomas johansson to beat ljubicic and then lose to david.
we will have to wait,anyway is a good year of david,he is looking for a place in the TMC untill the last tournament of the year, and that is good.

gooner88
10-30-2005, 08:01 PM
What I'm really happy about this season is that Nalbo has been relatively injury free, apart from his liver virus/condition in the early spring.
He hasn't got the results in alot of TMS events, and he suffering a bit now for it. But he's been really consistent from the U.S Open onwards. The draw is not that bad for Nalbo, and I'm convinced he can beat both Roddick and Ljubicic. Don't forget if it wasn't for Ljubo saving BP after BP with aces Nalbo would've beaten him. The last time he beat A-Rod was on carpet.

jazz_girl
10-30-2005, 08:17 PM
I don't know what to think about this draw, but I'm really curious about whether he'll make it or not. I think he deserves to be in Shanghai, and I'd love to see him there...

sigmagirl91
10-30-2005, 08:21 PM
i dont like the draw at all, roddick in QF, HE CAN BEAT RODDICK, BUT THEN LJUBICIC in the semis for a place in houston sounds scaring to me, i hope tomas johansson to beat ljubicic and then lose to david.
we will have to wait,anyway is a good year of david,he is looking for a place in the TMC untill the last tournament of the year, and that is good.

The Masters' Cup will be in Shanghai, frula.

gooner88
10-30-2005, 08:26 PM
To be honest after Cincy I thought he had no chance of making Shanghai.
But since then he's been getting the results and these possible withdrawals make it a real possibility.
I really like to see him play the Masters again, especially against Agassi. Their match 2 years ago was the best of the tourney and a real classic.
But first of all Nalbo has to focus on Paris and win as many matches there as possible; not only for Shanghai but also to help his entry ranking.

jazz_girl
10-30-2005, 08:36 PM
I really like to see him play the Masters again, especially against Agassi. Their match 2 years ago was the best of the tourney and a real classic.

:yeah:

Viken01
10-30-2005, 11:07 PM
yeah and it would be nice to see a nalby-nadal clash :D

crazy_nanine
10-30-2005, 11:26 PM
What I'm really happy about this season is that Nalbo has been relatively injury free, apart from his liver virus/condition in the early spring.
He hasn't got the results in alot of TMS events, and he suffering a bit now for it. But he's been really consistent from the U.S Open onwards. The draw is not that bad for Nalbo, and I'm convinced he can beat both Roddick and Ljubicic. Don't forget if it wasn't for Ljubo saving BP after BP with aces Nalbo would've beaten him. The last time he beat A-Rod was on carpet.
:yeah: agree 100%. I also believe he can beat Roddick and Ljub. with no problem but only if he's in a good day, I believe David is one of those players
who on a good day are just unbeatable, but when it's not his day can be beaten EASILY by a qualifier. Just hope all the next days in Paris are his days :lol: so that he can win the whole tournament :angel: . well anything's is possible in the next days and I'd like to see some surprises happen...

Viken01
10-30-2005, 11:26 PM
BTW here is the doubles draw :


Doubles Draw

(1) BJORKMAN, Jonas SWE/MIRNYI, Max BLR v. GAUDIO, Gaston ARG/PUERTA, Mariano ARG
HRBATY, Dominik SVK/JOHANSSON, Thomas SWE v. CERMAK, Frantisek CZE/DAMM, Martin CZE

(4) KNOWLES, Mark BAH/NESTOR, Daniel CAN v. FERRER, David ESP/ROBREDO, Tommy ESP
NALBANDIAN, David ARG/PRIETO, Sebastian ARG v. (WC) BENNETEAU, Julien FRA/MAHUT, Nicolas FRA

He will play again with prieto :o don't know him but looks like they play well together since they nearly beat the bryans in basel :D

Viken01
10-30-2005, 11:31 PM
but when it's not his day can be beaten EASILY by a qualifier.

yeah i think you are talking about his loose against baghdatis but baghdatis was playing sooo well, and david was not at his best okay but i think baghdatis will be at least a top 30 player next year so i'm not so disapointed of this loose :p i would be more disapointed if he lose in early round in paris

crazy_nanine
10-30-2005, 11:42 PM
I don't mean only baghdatis or a specific player, yes baghdatis is a very good player and i also believe he's going to be a top player, even top 10, so soon but as you said at that day for example against baghdatis David was not playing his best even though he played a great match just the day before it, and it was a short match that i think didn't affect him physically. I believe if he played that day like he played the day before he would've beat baghdatis easily...it just wasn't his day if you know what I mean :)

Viken01
10-31-2005, 12:00 AM
yeah i unfortunately understand, david is david, playing so great a day and so sucking the next day :p i don't know how he can change it because phisically he is not tired at all. I remember the match against hewitt at the AO it was a great match i can't forget it.

he lost the 1st and the 2nd set easily but won the 3rd and 4rd easily and was at the edge of winning but couldn't take his opportunity and he lost. So the question is why did he take so much time to enter in his match. I don't know of course but the french commentators were saying he needed to play a lot before entering on the court, at the point of being a little tired so he could be in his match when he start playing. I don't know if it's the solution but that's an annoying problem because he can't win titles and even GS because of this.

Maybe his girlfriend or a new coach could motivate him i don't know :haha:

sigmagirl91
10-31-2005, 12:30 AM
Maybe his girlfriend or a new coach could motivate him i don't know :haha:

Maybe, but his girlfriend has her function, and the coach has his, if you get what I'm saying.

Viken01
10-31-2005, 12:47 AM
yeah i know, i was just joking :rolleyes:

sigmagirl91
10-31-2005, 12:53 AM
yeah i know, i was just joking :rolleyes:

Besides, his girlfriend can provide the right kind of motivation.

rachelzszs
10-31-2005, 05:14 AM
Well, I still think it is really tough

rachelzszs
10-31-2005, 05:14 AM
Well, I still think it is really tough :rolleyes: :( :( :(

Björki
10-31-2005, 05:52 PM
(WC)Benneteau/Mahut vs Nalbandian/Prieto 7-6 6-4 :(

Viken01
10-31-2005, 08:16 PM
well this french team is quiet strong, especially at home, so i'm not really surprised, but at least nalby will only think of the singles, which is the most important thing at this moment ;)

rachelzszs
11-01-2005, 01:29 AM
He lost and I suppose he will focus on singles!
Go, Nalbo, to the Shanghai!

bovenbuuf
11-01-2005, 01:08 PM
sorry to see that he lost his double match, would be nice if he could win it. But well now he has time to focus on his singl match.

Viken01
11-01-2005, 10:56 PM
here is the OOP for tomorrow :)

Central
Début ā 11:30 / Start at 11.30 am

Jean-Rene LISNARD LL vs Dominik HRBATY (SVK) [16]
Pas avant 13:00 / Not before 1.00 pm
Arnaud CLEMENT WC vs Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) [14]
Suivi de / Followed by
Gaston GAUDIO (ARG) [7] vs Fabrice SANTORO WC
Suivi de / Followed by
Andy RODDICK (USA) [1] vs Taylor DENT (USA)
Pas avant 19:00 / Not before 7.00 pm
Paul-Henri MATHIEU vs Fernando GONZALEZ (CHI) [11]
Suivi de / Followed by
Tommy HAAS (GER) vs David NALBANDIAN (ARG) [5]

gooner88
11-01-2005, 11:02 PM
Crap time for me. :(
Watching Arsenal (my footy team) tomorrow at the same time; and I might not get to see the match on TV if the other matches are too long.
Anyway Good Luck Nalbo!

Viken01
11-01-2005, 11:56 PM
yeah i don't know if i will be able to watch it me too 'cause it's not on a free french TV :( but i will try to watch it at a friend's house ;)

Jill
11-02-2005, 11:36 AM
Will probably come on TV at about 4.00am (depending on earlier matches) here. I WILL be sleeping. Good luck to David.

I probably shouldn't post this here so don't have a go at me but I like Tommy Haas too so I don't mind who wins. Oh yes I do .... I want Nalby to win more of course. :eek:

Sakura 0101
11-02-2005, 09:42 PM
David lost 1st set :(
4-6

Viken01
11-02-2005, 10:02 PM
yeah and he's losing the 2nd :(

gooner88
11-02-2005, 10:14 PM
Nalbo's season is over.........
Haas won 6-4 6-3

Viken01
11-02-2005, 10:15 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad: :hysteric: :hysteric: :hysteric: :hysteric: :sobbing: :sobbing: :sobbing: :sobbing: :hysteric: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

Sakura 0101
11-02-2005, 10:18 PM
:tears:

Caralimon
11-03-2005, 12:54 AM
Well, it wasn't the best season, but it was far from bad. Now go on vacation, enjoy, and focus to make a great 2006.

RogiFan88
11-03-2005, 04:01 AM
Too bad, Nalby, but I've made a special av for you... ;)

rachelzszs
11-03-2005, 05:06 AM
Far from satisfactory

rachelzszs
11-03-2005, 06:14 AM
Cheer up
Waiting for the next season!

joyk
11-03-2005, 06:22 AM
Too bad, Nalby, but I've made a special av for you... ;)
:lol::lol::lol:Very nice!

jazz_girl
11-03-2005, 12:48 PM
I like the avy! :lol:
I saw a part of the match, and Haas deserved to win. It wasn't David's day at all, he played like crap, and Haas was in a high level, so that didn't help either...

gooner88
11-03-2005, 01:55 PM
Well, it wasn't the best season, but it was far from bad. Now go on vacation, enjoy, and focus to make a great 2006.

Agree 100%.
Now he's got a full off-season (2 and a half months) to analyse and reflect on his year; to learn from what he did right and wrong.
Then try to find a coach with good credentials and prepare well for the Aussie Open.

crazy_nanine
11-03-2005, 04:36 PM
I'm surprised but I'm not so sad for this result and I expected this result anyway..David is a human and he had huge pressure on him in this tournament. I'm optimistic for 2006 and I can see him qualifying easily to the masters without the need of the last minute tournaments ;), I'll alwyas cheer for him...Vamos David, buena suerte en 2006 :yeah:

bovenbuuf
11-03-2005, 08:24 PM
Well pity that he couldn't reach his last goal, going to China. Pity we can't see any tennis over here..
But well good luck to him for next year. Hope he finds a coach in the meantime..think it will do him good.

Eugenia
11-04-2005, 01:26 AM
I'm surprised but I'm not so sad for this result and I expected this result anyway..David is a human and he had huge pressure on him in this tournament. I'm optimistic for 2006 and I can see him qualifying easily to the masters without the need of the last minute tournaments ;), I'll alwyas cheer for him...Vamos David, buena suerte en 2006 :yeah:

Great post. :) That early loss was a sad way to end the season, but I think that next year is going to be great! Vamos David! :cool:

espanol04
11-04-2005, 07:51 AM
I'm so sad that I can't see David on the court next week. As David is my favorite player, I'm now considering whether to buy the ticket. I'm sure David would have a successful 2006!