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Robby in Paris!

idolwatcher1
10-28-2005, 07:33 PM
Since the official draws for Paris were made today, I thought now would be a good time to start a thread for Robby's quest for the title in Paris... :)

The main draw can be seen here: http://www.fft.fr/bnpparibasmasters/default_en.asp?Inc=live/tableau.asp!SM

Robby is seeded #12 and has a BYE into the 2nd round...he will face either Fernando Verdasco or a qualifier in the 2nd round. :cool:

16681
10-28-2005, 08:51 PM
As I posted at the GF site Federer, Nadal, Hewitt and Safin are all out of the Paris Tournament. And the story I read said Andy was keeping his options open so the people with the Paris Tournament are afraid he is going to pull out also. If Robby feels like playing it could be an easy field, but will he really feel like playing?

idolwatcher1
10-28-2005, 09:13 PM
Oh I hope Robby is better, I really really want him to feel good coming into Paris!

Éowyn
10-29-2005, 12:15 AM
the reasn we wait till the draw is made to make threads is so we can have the draw at the start of the thread and you still didn't put it in :banghead:

anyway heres the full draw. Nando in the 2nd round could be toughie

(1) RODDICK, Andy USA/Bye
GROSJEAN, Sebastien FRA v. DENT, Taylor USA
qualifier v. MONFILS, Gael FRA
Bye/(16) HRBATY, Dominik SVK
(10) FERRER, David ESP/Bye
MASSU, Nicolas CHI v. MIRNYI, Max BLR
PAVEL, Andrei ROM v. HAAS, Tommy GER
Bye/(5) NALBANDIAN, David ARG

(4) PUERTA, Mariano ARG/Bye
qualifier v. HANESCU, Victor ROM
(WC) CLEMENT, Arnaud FRA v. KIEFER, Nicolas GER
Bye/(14) ROBREDO, Tommy ESP
(9) JOHANSSON, Thomas SWE/Bye
qualifier v. ROCHUS, Christophe BEL
ROCHUS, Olivier BEL v. BLAKE, James USA
Bye/(6) LJUBICIC, Ivan CRO

(8) STEPANEK, Radek/Bye
LOPEZ, Feliciano v. MALISSE, Xavier
SANGUINETTI, Davide v. MATHIEU, Paul-Henri
Bye/(11) GONZALEZ, Fernando
(15) ANCIC, Mario/Bye
HENMAN, Tim v. SPADEA, Vincent
RUSEDSKI, Greg v. qualifier
Bye/(3) DAVYDENKO, Nikolay

(7) GAUDIO, Gaston/Bye
NIEMINEN, Jarkko v. (WC) SANTORO, Fabrice
qualifier v. VERDASCO, Fernando
Bye/(12) GINEPRI, Robby
(13) FERRERO, Juan Carlos/Bye
qualifier v. (WC) SERRA, Florent
BERDYCH, Tomas v. NOVAK, Jiri
Bye/(2) CORIA, Guillermo

16681
10-29-2005, 03:30 AM
You know I'm really kind of surprised even with all those top people out it still doesn't look like that bad of a field.
Men's tennis is really deep right now. So many players from so many countries even taking away what is considered the "cream of the crop" it isn't all that bad. If I were in Paris I would go to the Tournament, so maybe it won't be as bad as the people in charge think it is going to be with all those players out. I know they really want Andy to stay in the Tournament, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he didn't pull out also.

Éowyn
10-29-2005, 04:54 AM
your spot on everyne makes out that with a few a players out the game is dead! but teher are so many great mens players at the moment it's not even close

idolwatcher1
10-29-2005, 08:23 AM
:scared: sorry, I edited the first post to include the link to the main draw...

16681
10-29-2005, 05:41 PM
I forgot to mention that Andre is out of Paris also, but like I said the field doesn't look bad at all. I don't think the Tournament people in Paris have a thing to worry about even if Andy pulls out :cool:

Maime
10-29-2005, 08:42 PM
I can see Robby beating everyone in his quarter. Coria would be the toughie, but he hasn't been in the best of form lately.

Deboogle!.
10-29-2005, 09:21 PM
I can see Robby beating everyone in his quarter. Coria would be the toughie, but he hasn't been in the best of form lately.Verdasco is a monster, depending on whether his brain shows up that day or not. Winnable match for Robby, especially considering the speed of the surface, but not an easy opener if it ends up to be Fernando.

tangerine_dream
10-29-2005, 10:40 PM
the reasn we wait till the draw is made to make threads is so we can have the draw at the start of the thread and you still didn't put it in :banghead:
It's ok Eowyn, you posted the draw on the first page so it's all good :shrug:

Anyhoo, I agree that this field isn't as "weak" as people in GM make it out to be. Everybody's freaking out because most of the Top 10ers won't be there but can anyone honestly say that the likes of Coria, Nieminen, Grosjean, Johansson, and others on hot streaks like Blake and Ljubicic are nothing but amateur slouches? Not even the Top five players want to see these guys on their side of the draw! The men's field is quite deep that even if you take out No. 1 through 10, you've still a lot of dangerous players left who can make life miserable for one another.

I think this will make Paris exciting and I'm looking foward to seeing who will make his breakout masters win. Good luck to Robby. :banana:

Deboogle!.
10-29-2005, 10:41 PM
It's ok Eowyn, you posted the draw on the first page so it's all good :shrug:I didn't realize there was a rule about where the draw must be posted in a tourney thread anyway.:shrug:

superpinkone37
10-29-2005, 10:56 PM
It will be a tough match with Verdasco in the first round. Like the others have said, just because a lot of the top ten players won't be there doesn't make it a "wide open" draw.

idolwatcher1
10-30-2005, 12:15 AM
It's ok Eowyn, you posted the draw on the first page so it's all good :shrug:

Anyhoo, I agree that this field isn't as "weak" as people in GM make it out to be. Everybody's freaking out because most of the Top 10ers won't be there but can anyone honestly say that the likes of Coria, Nieminen, Grosjean, Johansson, and others on hot streaks like Blake and Ljubicic are nothing but amateur slouches? Not even the Top five players want to see these guys on their side of the draw! The men's field is quite deep that even if you take out No. 1 through 10, you've still a lot of dangerous players left who can make life miserable for one another.

I think this will make Paris exciting and I'm looking foward to seeing who will make his breakout masters win. Good luck to Robby. :banana:
Yeah, I agree...I don't think it's a weak field either...Good luck to Robby, and I hope he is feeling much better... :angel:

16681
10-30-2005, 12:30 AM
Yeah, I agree...I don't think it's a weak field either...Good luck to Robby, and I hope he is feeling much better... :angel:
I went to Robby's Official Site. I thought maybe there might be some current information on how Robby was doing, but the most recent information was that he had pulled out of Lyon due to illness. LOL As if we didn't already know that. But I hope he is doing well and that he will be able to play in Paris ;)

Deboogle!.
10-30-2005, 12:34 AM
Everything out of Lyon said he had a stomach bug, so I'm sure he's fine :) Unless he had a bad flu or something, I'm sure that 6-7 days is enough to recover, and he didn't have to travel too far from Lyon to Paris so that's not as draining too.

Éowyn
10-30-2005, 01:04 AM
I didn't realize there was a rule about where the draw must be posted in a tourney thread anyway.:shrug:

did i say there was? no it's just a general courtesy debs! and the way things have been done in the robby forum since we finally managed to get it created.

Noelle
10-30-2005, 01:09 AM
OK, well, here's to having Robby in the Paris draw! :drink: That way people will stop saying it's a weak tournament. GM losers. :ras:

Éowyn
10-30-2005, 01:14 AM
lol noelle!

tehy all just like to complain! coz this is the only masters event of the year that won't be won by rafa or fed! apparently that is what makes it weak :rolleyes: GM is weird

superpinkone37
10-30-2005, 01:31 AM
So is there a list of guidelines or something that I can read for posting in this forum? I just wanted to know in case I wanted to post an article or something in here...I don't want to break any "wobbly fowum wules" or anything. That would be beyond tragic.

Éowyn
10-30-2005, 01:58 AM
don't even start! it was a comment that andrea responded to as requested so it's not a problem to you is it! for christ sake get over it already :rolleyes:

tangerine_dream
10-30-2005, 05:17 PM
tehy all just like to complain! coz this is the only masters event of the year that won't be won by rafa or fed! apparently that is what makes it weak :rolleyes: GM is weird
According to the GM tards, if Roger and Rafa are out, then it's not a "real" tennis tournament with no "real" tennis players so whoever wins Paris won't be a "real" win anyway because JesusFed and RafaGod weren't around to stop them and show them who's King.

16681
10-30-2005, 05:30 PM
According to the GM tards, if Roger and Rafa are out, then it's not a "real" tennis tournament with no "real" tennis players so whoever wins Paris won't be a "real" win anyway because JesusFed and RafaGod weren't around to stop them and show them who's King.
LOL I like your posts! And I did add a post to the fact that Santoro does need his own forum ;)

idolwatcher1
10-30-2005, 09:04 PM
Robby will play the winner of the Nicolas Lapentti vs. Fernando Verdasco match. Smash either of them!! :)

:bounce:

16681
10-30-2005, 09:50 PM
Robby will play the winner of the Nicolas Lapentti vs. Fernando Verdasco match. Smash either of them!! :)

:bounce:
Well let's hope so anyway ;)

Éowyn
10-30-2005, 11:52 PM
very true tangy! still i'm pretty sure the players aren't looking at it this way.

idolwatcher1
11-01-2005, 02:06 PM
Robby will play Fernando Verdasco, who fought a closely contested match against Lapentti...with a final score of: 6-7, 7-5, 7-5...It seemed like the match lasted at least 2 hours and 15 minutes, maybe more...

Fergie
11-01-2005, 02:20 PM
Good luck Robby, you can do it! :yeah:

Éowyn
11-01-2005, 04:17 PM
poor nico :sad:

16681
11-01-2005, 07:46 PM
Robby will play Fernando Verdasco, who fought a closely contested match against Lapentti...with a final score of: 6-7, 7-5, 7-5...It seemed like the match lasted at least 2 hours and 15 minutes, maybe more...
The more time spend in one Match the less energy for the next Match, I hope ;)

idolwatcher1
11-01-2005, 09:14 PM
hehe...I hope Robby will prove to me that he's back and ready to crush opponents... :devil:

16681
11-01-2005, 10:03 PM
hehe...I hope Robby will prove to me that he's back and ready to crush opponents... :devil:
I certainly hope so too. But I don't know when the Match is yet and I have an appointment tomorrow so the rest of you may have to cheer "Go Robby Go" without me! What a time to have an appointment!

Deboogle!.
11-01-2005, 10:52 PM
Robby and Nando play first on court one tomorrow at 11:30am. :)

Fee
11-01-2005, 11:58 PM
Thanks for the info Deb, you make my life much easier by posting it here for us. Word.

Deboogle!.
11-02-2005, 12:28 AM
I live to serve you, my dear Fee :hatoff:

Éowyn
11-02-2005, 12:38 AM
not like anyone can see it :lol:

10.30 my time :) i have to go to the gym later than normal now! :( better make it quick robby i don't wanna have to go too late coz i have to get to work afterwards

idolwatcher1
11-02-2005, 05:51 AM
not a good match time for people in America to follow it... :sad: ...not that I can watch it on TV anyway... :mad: I can only hope for the best...

I♥PsY@Mus!c
11-02-2005, 07:07 AM
Verdacso just played a tight match and he is so easy to lose crucial points so I think Robby will beat him! :rocker: Allez! :cool:

Fergie
11-02-2005, 12:38 PM
Robby won 6-3 6-7 (7) 6-3 :woohoo:

Robby had 3 mp in the TB :p

I♥PsY@Mus!c
11-02-2005, 02:13 PM
Come on,next time don't make your fans so nervous,man! :o

idolwatcher1
11-02-2005, 03:43 PM
Robby's good at making his fans nervous... :scared: But the good thing is that he won! :) :dance:

Next up, Gaudio! Robby, you've beaten five Top 10 players in the last 5 months...add another one to that list... :) (edited to add that Gaudio is currently #11 in the rankings and #10 in the Race, but has been inside the Top 10 in the rankings this year)

Fergie
11-02-2005, 03:49 PM
If Robby play well should win tomorrow ... Good luck! :D

16681
11-02-2005, 03:50 PM
Well I thought my appointment would stop me from following the Match, but I didn't have the Match time when I typed that and instead it turned out that the Match was just too early here in the Eastern U.S :mad: I'm glad Robby won ;) But the score sounded like he had a difficult time of it, I'm still not too sure how strong he is after that illness. Plus when I first found the Paris site. I was sure there was a real time scoring site there, but now I can't find it! Well on to the next round for Robby :D Go Robby Go :cool:

idolwatcher1
11-02-2005, 04:40 PM
Mae, Robby had multiple Match Points in the 2nd set...He could have closed out the match in straight sets, but his serves were not helping him when he needed it...I hope Francisco was taking notes...Robby must learn how to better focus in crucial times like that, he could have won the match in a lot less time and not had to go to a third set...The good thing is that he pulled it together and won the third set 6-3!

Go Robby!! :dance:

idolwatcher1
11-02-2005, 07:37 PM
http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/5788/neps14bq.jpg http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7219/560561849rr.jpg

^ that's of Robby from today's match... :)

french-guru
11-02-2005, 11:26 PM
well for this match making us nervous was probably his way saying ' no worries, I will win!' :)



:nerner: (diputs os ma I )

16681
11-02-2005, 11:44 PM
http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/5788/neps14bq.jpg http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7219/560561849rr.jpg

^ that's of Robby from today's match... :)
Yummy! I must say he looks good ;) But I don't think he is really 100% physically yet so I think it is going to be hard to know how far he can go in this Tournament? Where were you getting your scores?

Éowyn
11-03-2005, 12:20 AM
could have killed sky today! the bastards deciuded to show hrbaty :mad: better show robby v gaston

superpinkone37
11-03-2005, 12:51 AM
Congrats Robby :dance:

16681
11-03-2005, 04:00 AM
could have killed sky today! the bastards deciuded to show hrbaty :mad: better show robby v gaston
At least you can see tennis! I have no tennis coverage at all :mad:

idolwatcher1
11-03-2005, 05:21 AM
To my surprise, Robby plays in the last match of the day tomorrow...which is interesting because he played during the first match today...You would've thought they'd put him at a more consistent schedule...hmm

16681
11-03-2005, 04:43 PM
To my surprise, Robby plays in the last match of the day tomorrow...which is interesting because he played during the first match today...You would've thought they'd put him at a more consistent schedule...hmm
Hey that is not a bad thing at all. In most Tournaments the night matches are considered to be the more "featured" matches. And beside it lets us have a more decent time to follow the match here in the U.S. ;)

RickDaStick
11-03-2005, 06:21 PM
Go Robby!!

idolwatcher1
11-03-2005, 10:01 PM
Today's a sad day :sad: ...Robby started out with a lead of 3-0...but didn't keep that lead. Robby wasn't showing the effort he normally shows (provoking numerous questions) and the momentum shifted Gaudio's way. I think Robby gave up mentally, but this may be due to him just not feeling well physically...I would love to hear the press conference after this match to get a better idea of what happened and why...

16681
11-03-2005, 10:17 PM
Today's a sad day :sad: ...Robby started out with a lead of 3-0...but didn't keep that lead. Robby wasn't showing the effort he normally shows (provoking numerous questions) and the momentum shifted Gaudio's way. I think Robby gave up mentally, but this may be due to him just not feeling well physically...I would love to hear the press conference after this match to get a better idea of what happened and why...
Well I had thought since it was a late Match I would be able to follow it, but that didn't turn out to be the case so all I got was the score. It was :sad: And this time I'm not trying to be mean or funny or anything like that. I honestly don't believe by just looking at that score that Robby was 100% right physically. So now all we can do is hope he takes care of himself and then works hard for next year ;)

french-guru
11-03-2005, 11:45 PM
:sad: I know it happens and I hate it! two against each other.

Éowyn
11-04-2005, 12:25 AM
it was a bad day for my boys

roby :bigcry: paulo :bigcry: tommy :bigcry: only andy made it good but still sad :sad:

Fergie
11-04-2005, 03:08 AM
What a awful match :sad:

superpinkone37
11-04-2005, 04:04 AM
wobbly :sad:

Deboogle!.
11-04-2005, 04:14 AM
What a awful match :sad:That doesn't quite even begin to describe it. I'd read some of what others said who saw it live (I wasn't home), so I decided to watch the replay of it and just...... whoa.

Honestly, he looked ok physically to me. He was moving ok and didn't look flushed or wiped out or anything. It was just so bizarre. He got off to the lead, then Gaudio started fighting and hitting his shots much better, and Robby just really died. He had 22 winners to 39 UEs for the match, and only won 26% of his second serve points. The commentators said some horrible things.

Hard not to feel for him watching the match, just nothing he did worked, it was just bizarre. I've seen it happen other players though, just nothing he did was working, the overheads were landing a few inches out, etc. At least he gets to go home and have a nice break now... but it's an unfortunate way to end such a good year for him.

rege
11-04-2005, 07:08 AM
Certainly not the most ideal way to end the season, but he has to be pleased about the way he was able to turn things around this year.

Congrat's on a great year, Robby... and here's to an even better 2006!

idolwatcher1
11-04-2005, 07:30 AM
the people who saw the match on TV said that, by the second set, Robby didn't even look like he was trying (which is unlike him, because many times he's had a fighting spirit, coming from behind after being a set down)...Some said he looked tired too (there are probably different interpretations)...which you usually don't see from him either...

I'm gonna get on my soapbox for a moment and say that when I first realized that Robby played at 11:30 AM (the first match of the day) on Wednesday and THEN was scheduled to play at about 9:30 PM (the last match of the day) on Thursday, I thought that if I were him, I would NOT like that, because on Wednesday at 9:30PM, his body was probably winding down already...and so what do you think is going to happen the very next day at that same time??...his body is more than likely ready to start winding down again!...I dunno *sigh*...but it didn't really sound like a recipe for success to me... :rolleyes: *steps slowly off soapbox*

A few conspiracy theories came out of this match also...One is that Robby knew his chances of qualifying for Shanghai were like 0.1% (even if he became champion in Paris)..and making it to the 3rd round was good enough to gather a few points for the entry ranking but also sets the bar low enough to improve on during his 2006 season when he plays there again and can gain more points then...

I'd really like to know what Francisco and Robby are talking about right now... :lol:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
11-04-2005, 11:42 AM
:bigcry: I thought he could have beaten Gaston! :sobbing:

Fergie
11-04-2005, 11:49 AM
the people who saw the match on TV said that, by the second set, Robby didn't even look like he was trying (which is unlike him, because many times he's had a fighting spirit, coming from behind after being a set down)...Some said he looked tired too (there are probably different interpretations)...which you usually don't see from him either...
I saw the match and for me Robby didn't seem to be very motivated for play :rolleyes:

I'm not sad because Robby lost, just because I didn't see his fighting spirit :sad:

Deboogle!.
11-04-2005, 03:29 PM
My personal opinion is that it's impossible to tell when a player is or isn't trying. Robby was still running after shots, he was muttering to himself, he wasn't happy. To me those are signs he still cared and still wanted to win. And he'd pull off the occasional really good shot, I remember one running shot down the line that was great, near the end of the match.

So I suppose it's just a matter of perception and opinion. I personally felt like it was one of those days where he looked tired mentally, and just nothing he was doing was going his way. But that he was trying things - I've seen players who don't even try running for things anymore and I didn't think this was like that. There was one point where he hit an overhead and he just duffed it out... I mean, I don't think he was *trying* to miss it, which if he didn't care about the result and was trying to lose, he would've missed an easy shot like that on purpose, but he was upset about it.

So I dunno, it's just in the perception. I just sort of felt badly for him as opposed to saying, wow I can't believe he tanked the match.

idolwatcher1
11-04-2005, 08:06 PM
The Paris site had this to say: "The American looked as though he had given up the hope to turn the situation around. Gaudio was just too solid, whereas Ginepri was looking extremely slow."

Grinder said that Robby really didn't even look frustrated out there...Robby has often thrown his racquet down in times of frustration or when a lead is being taken away from him, or at the very least, yelling out loud or hitting his racquet against the ground...But that apparently wasn't the case during this match. I think Robby was just plain off yesterday, and didn't have that fighting spirit with him...That's what made it so sad to see because it isn't like him... :sad:

It's times like these where I wish I could overhear his conversations with Francisco, lol

Deboogle!.
11-04-2005, 08:22 PM
Well I disagree. Robby was shaking his head and muttering to himself. He was definitely frustrated. When I watched it I just felt that everything he was trying wasn't working, it was one of those really awful days where you are trying and it's just not happening. And it's not lke Gaudio didn't play well, he did. and I mean the type of game Gaudio plays - how he retrieves everything - isn't the type of player you wanna play if you're having a tough time with your shots.

It was too bad for him to end his season on that note, but I also think it was an aberration.

idolwatcher1
11-04-2005, 10:54 PM
Sometimes people talk to themselves even when they are doing well, so I don't think that is necessarily any evidence of frustration, especially the kind of frustration Robby normally displays. Robby was not himself yesterday, and as I said before, I certainly don't think his inconsistent schedule helped him out in any way. Everyone will have their own opinion about it...I wish I could have heard the press conference after the match though...

Deboogle!.
11-04-2005, 10:59 PM
No he definitely wasn't himself, and only he knows why. But his muttering to himself, to me, evidenced that he cared and wasn't happy with what was going on out there.

superpinkone37
11-05-2005, 12:51 AM
Sometimes a player is trying and trying and nothing is going right. So of course, he can pull off the occasional good shot, but everything else just won't work when you want it to. And since nothing was working for him and he was sucking, it might appear to those watching that he wasn't trying. Plus, when a player is that frustrated, he might give up on certain points of not run for certain balls.

I didn't see this match so I don't know all that went on...but as someone who plays tennis, I know how it feels for a coach or friend or something to say it looked like you gave up when you really were trying and nothing was going your way.

Deboogle!.
11-05-2005, 01:18 AM
Sometimes a player is trying and trying and nothing is going right. So of course, he can pull off the occasional good shot, but everything else just won't work when you want it to. And since nothing was working for him and he was sucking, it might appear to those watching that he wasn't trying. Plus, when a player is that frustrated, he might give up on certain points of not run for certain balls.

I didn't see this match so I don't know all that went on...but as someone who plays tennis, I know how it feels for a coach or friend or something to say it looked like you gave up when you really were trying and nothing was going your way.This is exactly what I'm talking about. I mean, you guys can all believe whatever you want, or you can buy a copy of the match somehow or something and see for yourself. Ultimately it's just a judgment call since only Robby knows what was going on. I mean if it were me, I probably wouldn't want to believe my favorite player wasn't trying, and I've certainly seen Andy have days where I knew he was trying b/c he was upset but just nothing was going right for him. That's what I viewed this match as for Robby. And I mean, I don't like Gaudio all that much either, so I feel as though I watched the match pretty objectively.

I'm just saying that I didn't see any signs that Robby was just giving up and not trying - and if I were a Robby fan that'd make me happy about that. but whatever.

Éowyn
11-05-2005, 02:20 AM
gotta agree with andrea! robby does talk to himself alot win or lose! up or down! it is never easy to tell when he is up or down on himself fact is he lost! but regardless he has had a gerat season! and has practically nothing to defend for the first half of next year! so in january he will start a fresh! and hopefully earn more points to get his ranking even higher before having to try and defend some of those points in the summer!

i've said it alot this year! i am proud of him :)

Éowyn
11-05-2005, 02:22 AM
I'm just saying that I didn't see any signs that Robby was just giving up and not trying - and if I were a Robby fan that'd make me happy about that. but whatever.

just felt that comment needed to be made visible to all, a, coz it was admitting the truth and b, coz it was about the first positive thing i have seen written about robby from debs and it makes me happy :)

robby is a fighter! sometimes he gets overrun and cannot beat his opponent but he will always fight

16681
11-05-2005, 02:41 AM
I still sticking with the fact that his illness in Lyon had apart to play in what happened in Paris. But I can agree with idolwatcher1 in that his schedule wasn't very consistent, but I thought that was always the case in a tennis tournament :confused: But he has time now to rest and then start work for 2006, which I have already proclaimed the year of the Robby :worship:

Éowyn
11-05-2005, 02:46 AM
not alwyas the case mae! alot of the time you will fidn tournaments arrange to their home players so the home favorites will get to play similar times each day! and other matches are scheduled for tv etc! it varies so it can be sometimes you play at teh same time each day and others you get thrown all over the place!

but as for the illness i don't thinkyou can use it as an excuse as robby didn't himself :p

Éowyn
11-05-2005, 02:46 AM
Sometimes a player is trying and trying and nothing is going right. So of course, he can pull off the occasional good shot, but everything else just won't work when you want it to. And since nothing was working for him and he was sucking, it might appear to those watching that he wasn't trying. Plus, when a player is that frustrated, he might give up on certain points of not run for certain balls.

:worship: that is pretty much usually what happens to robby! he rarely gives up he just has days when no matter what he does he can't win! it happens to us all!

Deboogle!.
11-05-2005, 02:52 AM
Well, Mae, usually it's fairly consistent (the scheduling, I mean), the people who play early tend to keep playing early and the people who play later tend to keep playing later. But, I think these guys at this point are pretty much used to anything so aside from the annoyance here or there, I doubt it affects how they play. I mean Robby's played, and done well at, Wimbledon - if you can handle the scheduling there, you can probably handle anything :p

I still maintain that he did not look sick or weak to me, and not that they know much, but the commentators mentioned nothing too and a lot of the time they will say "well I talked to the player earlier, etc. etc." He didn't look pale or flushed or queasy or whatever - and I've seen plenty of sick players on court before, all the way back to Pete in 1996. He was sluggish but that could be from just the end of the season and the mental and physical grind of what he accomplished catching up to him.

Robby had an amazing season and did better that he had even probably expected to, so I think it's entirely possible that he got to the last tourney of the year and he ran out of gas - mental, physical, both, whatever. I think the same thing happened to Gaudio today in his match - the difference is that he wasn't even trying and it was embarrassing. He was booed, no one felt badly for him, whereas with Robby yesterday, you could just tell that it wasn't his day. No one booed him or anything and the commentators didn't say anything mean like they did today. So he's got almost 2 months to keep up his hard work and rest and he hasn't got many points in the first few months to defend, so he'll be A-OK :)

Éowyn
11-05-2005, 03:04 AM
funny how everyone insults wimbledon's scheduling despite it being one of the better organised tournaments on the tour! hardling their fault if it rains :rolleyes:

Deboogle!.
11-05-2005, 03:08 AM
I was referring to dealing with the delays and uncertainty with the weather :) If a player can handle that and still play well I think they can handle playing early one day and late the next.

Éowyn
11-05-2005, 03:15 AM
no i know what you mean i just meant in general i find it funny that everyone always insults wimbledons scheduling when it's not their fault unlike some tournaments that just screw around.
however i would say that wimbledons qualifying event is the worst it's ridiculous how bad their scheduling is! poor guys were just wandering around and didn't have a damn clue when they were playing, james looked like he was gonna start killing people

Deboogle!.
11-05-2005, 03:18 AM
Wimbledon's scheduling of the main event is fine. They move people around more than most other tourneys do and are generally fair about it. People just need something to bitch about :)

Éowyn
11-05-2005, 03:21 AM
yeah pretty much at least it will get better when they eventually build the roof

16681
11-05-2005, 03:31 AM
They certainly need a roof at the USO because when it rains there everything schedule wise just becomes a mess!

Éowyn
11-05-2005, 03:34 AM
the thing that annoys me with the uso is they have no excuse! f they covered the courts as soon as it started raining, they could start playing again as soon as it stopped they don't have the issues like you do with grass.

16681
11-05-2005, 03:38 AM
That is very true and I also think that when the courts do get wet they too often use people with towels to try and dry the courts :rolleyes:

Éowyn
11-05-2005, 04:09 AM
well it's just the fact they don't need to dry them if they buy covers in the first place :lol:

16681
11-05-2005, 04:23 AM
well it's just the fact they don't need to dry them if they buy covers in the first place :lol:
Apparently no one in New York has thought of that :confused: But a roof would be the best :)

idolwatcher1
11-05-2005, 07:40 AM
I just think, for me personally, I would not want my match to be scheduled at 11:30 AM one day, and my next match to be scheduled for 9:30 PM the following day...I'm sure Robby knows how to best handle this situation, as he has been around the block, but being at the end of a tough season, it may have just been that last little straw, so to speak, that pulled him out of his zone...

GermanBoy
11-05-2005, 04:35 PM
I think Robby did quite well in Paris. I thought he would beat Gaston Gaudio though. He shouldn't have lost to him on that surface... Nevertheless, well done, Robby! :D

superpinkone37
11-05-2005, 07:09 PM
I'm sure that everyone has their preference on when they would like to be scheduled to play...but that doesn't matter. They're professional tennis players, they have to adjust and be ready to play when they're scheduled to. The guy on the other side of the net has to deal with the same thing...

idolwatcher1
11-05-2005, 11:45 PM
yes, of course, and I'm sure that this late in the season, the effectiveness of making those kind of adjustments, is that much less. You really are at the mercy of your mind/body and how it reacts to a 10-hour time difference between days on top of whatever else your mind/body might be going through...I certainly don't wish that schedule difference on any player, no matter how professional...

16681
11-06-2005, 12:22 AM
I still think he was not completely over the illness from Lyon. That is my story and I'm sticking with it :p

Éowyn
11-06-2005, 01:01 AM
Apparently no one in New York has thought of that :confused: But a roof would be the best :)

nah a roof would only be on one court! covers would work on ALL courts :p

Éowyn
11-06-2005, 01:01 AM
mae give up onthe illness sweetie :p

16681
11-06-2005, 03:45 AM
mae give up onthe illness sweetie :p
I'm sorry, but to me that picture over at the GF site where you got such a clear view of Robby's face I mean he didn't
look good to me at all! And normally Robby always looks good to me :)

idolwatcher1
11-06-2005, 05:20 AM
Mae, the one pic where he was looking downward after the match finished was the only photo of that match that showed anything looking depressing...The ones of him hitting the ball...you're always going to get shots of him where his face looks squinted...Most tennis players have some sort of squinted or exerted look on their face when they're about to make a shot or just finishing one...They aren't usually the pictures people care to post up on here or elsewhere, but they do exist in nearly every tournament he's played in...Long story short, I don't think any of the pictures of him made him look as if he was sick... ;)

16681
11-06-2005, 07:30 PM
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this subject. And if I could get my hands on Ivan I can assure you he definitely would be sick! I lost a bet on him :mad: But at least I know I had plenty of company in the bet losing department :sad:

Éowyn
11-07-2005, 12:24 AM
wel not all of us mae just you :p the rest of us all agree with each other :lol:

16681
11-07-2005, 03:47 AM
My first bet and I lost it :mad: I just can't believe Ivan didn't even come close to winning that match :sad: I guess
I was taken in with him beating Andy when of course Andy had that bad back :rolleyes:

Éowyn
11-07-2005, 03:55 AM
LMAO i was the biggest winner on that match! i bet on birdie :p

og btw just for the sake of my sanity can you do me a favoru when referring to the pics posted on the GF forum can you say the Gf forum instead of site. coz my poor lil head keeps getting confuseled thinking "i haven't posted any pics from it yet" :scratch: and my poor lil brain thinks "eek someone has access to the site" then it finally realises you're referring to the forum.

16681
11-07-2005, 04:25 AM
Maybe if I could get my hands on both you and Ivan you would both be sick :devil: And yes I will try to remember to refer to GF as the GF Forum. Or I guess I could just say GF? I will use any language that will help you out. If you just won't remind me of that bet :rolleyes:

Éowyn
11-07-2005, 04:28 AM
well samething though coz if you say GF i think of the site! can say GF and GFF if you like. i mean seriously you can say what you want i just get confused sometimes lol

and for the record i HATE ivan!

16681
11-07-2005, 04:33 AM
I will try to remember to say GF Forum and I also don't like Ivan! But he had been playing so well I just thought for sure he would win the Tournament :mad:

Éowyn
11-07-2005, 04:35 AM
i always bet on the underdog :p unless it's one of my boys!

16681
11-07-2005, 04:49 AM
That's a good tip! But actually I don't think I would want to bet on someone I liked! I am the "kiss of death". Maybe that is what happened to Ivan in his match---I bet on him :p

idolwatcher1
11-07-2005, 06:44 AM
I am watching the Paris highlights on ESPN2, but they did not show anything of Robby...never even mentioned his existence in the tournament...I didn't expect them to, because with these highlights shows they do, they only devote the first 20 minutes to all of the semi-finalists and their highlights before the final, and they devote the last 40 minutes to just highlights of the final match...I did get to see Andy...they showed the trainer come out and do adjustments for his back during the last two matches he played in... :awww:

Deboogle!.
11-07-2005, 03:56 PM
Yeah, the highlights shows stink bigtime :( I mean, reducing a whole entire tourney into an hour.. just... boo. Definitely looked like Andy was faking his injury, right? :o :rolleyes: :lol:

idolwatcher1
11-07-2005, 08:08 PM
haha, yeah...I felt bad for him...They seemed to have a mic near him, because I could hear what he was saying to the trainer...he definitely looked hurt to me :sad:

16681
11-07-2005, 09:44 PM
I forgot yet another highlight show, but you are right they are never very good anyway. And what gets me is ESPN has channels open that they could show the whole tournament on. But since they aren't going to do that why bother with a highlight show :mad: Are people really saying Andy was faking his injury? What would be the possible reason he would do something like that? He may well have won the Tournament had he not hurt his back!
I just can't believe where some people get their ideas, but it is one thing to have ideas and another to spread them all around :mad:

Deboogle!.
11-08-2005, 12:30 AM
Unbelievably, yes people in GM said he was faking. :shrug: hatred makes people say ridiculous things, I guess. Pretty sad, really :(

superpinkone37
11-08-2005, 01:32 AM
I forgot to watch the highlights show. Oh well. I didn't really wanna see my favorite player in pain. Especially because he was probably faking it. :rolleyes:

Éowyn
11-08-2005, 02:32 AM
well he should be able to look after himself better shouldn't he :rolleyes:

Deboogle!.
11-08-2005, 02:35 AM
I forgot to watch the highlights show. Oh well. I didn't really wanna see my favorite player in pain. Especially because he was probably faking it. :rolleyes:GM is still going at it saying he was hamming it up :haha: :haha: :haha:

16681
11-08-2005, 03:15 PM
I'm sorry I really don't understand why Andy or any other tennis player would fake an injury at a Tournament that they had a good chance of winning? I mean not that I think any player should ever fake an injury, but maybe I could see it if they were playing Roger Federer and had already lost the 1st set to Roger 6-0. But Roger wasn't even in Paris! So no one had to worry about even playing him. It just doesn't make any sense to me :confused:

Deboogle!.
11-08-2005, 03:17 PM
Nah, it doesn't. Which is why it's amusing. It's also amusing that if any of us said something similar about any other player (which mind you, of course we wouldn't.), we'd get in trouble and we'd get like flamed off the board, but when people say it about Andy, they get cheered and everyone agrees with them. Viva MTF!

16681
11-08-2005, 05:42 PM
Nah, it doesn't. Which is why it's amusing. It's also amusing that if any of us said something similar about any other player (which mind you, of course we wouldn't.), we'd get in trouble and we'd get like flamed off the board, but when people say it about Andy, they get cheered and everyone agrees with them. Viva MTF!
Well Deb I hate to admit it, but sometimes Andy doesn't help himself out, by the choices he makes. Since Robby's season is over for the year and I only know of two Americans that possibly might be playing another Tournament which of course are, Andre and Andy. I went to Andy's official website to see if they had any more information on Andy's injury and what he was going to do about the Masters Cup and to my surprise the story there told about Andy playing in a Charity Event. Why if you had a back injury and in some places I have even read shoulder/back injury would you play tennis in a Charity Event? I mean he could have shown up, signed some autographs, maybe been an umpire or something like that. But to say you are hurt and may not be able to play in the Masters Cup, but then play in a Charity Event? I'm sorry that doesn't make much sense to me either :confused:

Éowyn
11-08-2005, 07:50 PM
bbc is reporting andy is about to withdraw too! which i have to state would be rather funny to have the masters cup minus 3 of the best players in the world haha

idolwatcher1
11-08-2005, 09:41 PM
well, they've been saying that the winner in Shanghai will be whoever doesn't walk on the court with crutches or an IV in their arm... :unsure:

Éowyn
11-08-2005, 10:03 PM
that'll be the umpire then :p

idolwatcher1
11-08-2005, 10:24 PM
that'll be the umpire then :p

:lol: Oh, and ESPN is finally showing a tennis tournament!...but it's this one...I hope I enjoy what I see...

Éowyn
11-08-2005, 10:27 PM
well hopefully rafa will in it and upset roger muhaha

idolwatcher1
11-08-2005, 10:35 PM
hmm...I would love to see the two pair up again...A lot of Nadal fans were complaining about the surface for him...but hopefully that talk has subsided...Federer may or may not play, I think it's still up in the air...

Éowyn
11-08-2005, 10:42 PM
federer has already said he IS playing!

16681
11-08-2005, 11:09 PM
Yes Federer is in, but Hewitt is out. And I still haven't heard about Andy.

Éowyn
11-08-2005, 11:10 PM
andys a doubt says bbc but if i know andy he'll go anyway!

16681
11-08-2005, 11:13 PM
Well if he can play for Billie Jean and Elton he should play in the Masters, but whether he will or not I don't know?

Éowyn
11-08-2005, 11:30 PM
he will!

16681
11-09-2005, 12:24 AM
LOL I think after playing for Billie Jean and Elton he about has to go :p Well apparently Billie Jean and Elton are better than China. Andy will not be playing the Masters Cup! Andy's fans think people give Andy a lot of grief, but I'm afraid he leaves himself open to at least some of the things that people say. He was supposed to be injuried, but he can play in a Charity Event, but yet now he can't play in the Masters Cup :confused:

idolwatcher1
11-09-2005, 08:16 AM
yeah...Roddick's out now... :awww:

16681
11-09-2005, 04:03 PM
yeah...Roddick's out now... :awww:
Personally and this is just IMO I don't think Andy wanted to go to the Masters. If he had really wanted to go he would have gone home from Paris and started to try to take care of his "injuried back". But what does he do makes another trip to play at a Charity Event and I don't think it was necessarily bad that he kept his committment
to the Event. But he could have been there and done other things rather than play tennis. He couldn't have been all that hurt making all those plane trips, playing and winning Matches at a Charity Event. So I'm not going to try and defend him anymore when people say he is faking injuries.

Éowyn
11-09-2005, 07:57 PM
i think andy has his priorities all messed up again! still at least robby knows what he's meant to concentrate on

16681
11-09-2005, 09:07 PM
i think andy has his priorities all messed up again! still at least robby knows what he's meant to concentrate on
I will agree with that, but isn't anyone trying to help Andy with his priorities? Or will he just not listen? I really believe he is on a fast track to nowhere if someone doesn't step in and help him :sad:

idolwatcher1
11-09-2005, 09:40 PM
Don't forget Robby has a charity event this month too, but it was scheduled at a much better time for him...and Roddick should only commit to charity work when it's convenient for him...But I wonder if results came back after he did the charity event, and they weren't good, and that's when he decided to pull out of Shanghai...He may not have realized how bad something was...

16681
11-09-2005, 09:49 PM
He played in and won 4 matches in that Charity Event! I'm all for players helping with Charity Events, but not when they are supposed to be too hurt to play tennis. And yes I know the WTT rules are nothing like a real Tournament, but you still have to serve, make shots, etc.

Éowyn
11-09-2005, 09:53 PM
yeah but i think perosnally theres a big difference between ONE charity event and taking the entire off season for charity events. it's very sad. still i'm giving up on andy for a while he has more mental issues than marat and that is saying something

16681
11-09-2005, 10:12 PM
yeah but i think perosnally theres a big difference between ONE charity event and taking the entire off season for charity events. it's very sad. still i'm giving up on andy for a while he has more mental issues than marat and that is saying something
I'm glad that 1) I found someone that agrees with me on that and 2) that someone else has the nerve to say it :devil:

Éowyn
11-09-2005, 10:19 PM
it's very sad though! i've always loved andy but i just think after 5 years of the same thing everytime it's getting sad

idolwatcher1
11-10-2005, 12:01 AM
I saw Andy's parents in the stands in Paris...They didn't appear to have the best seats though...I wonder what their feelings about all this is...

superpinkone37
11-10-2005, 01:01 AM
oh.

Deboogle!.
11-10-2005, 01:08 AM
I saw Andy's parents in the stands in Paris...They didn't appear to have the best seats though...I wonder what their feelings about all this is...They always sit far away. They did it at the USO when he won, too, he had to run around the stadium to find them. That's what they do, they're quietly supportive.

Éowyn
11-10-2005, 02:46 AM
*wonders what andys parents has to do with robby :lol: *

16681
11-10-2005, 03:17 AM
Does Robby's parents ever go to Tournaments? I was trying to remember if I ever heard anything about them?
But since I had never heard about Robby's g/f it is no wonder I know nothing about his parents :rolleyes: Sometimes I am not very well informed about things :confused:

Deboogle!.
11-10-2005, 03:21 AM
His dad does sometimes I think.

He was at the USO, and that's why Robby and Lux played together.

(Lux is the nickname/term of endearment some of us have for Gilles Muller)

Éowyn
11-10-2005, 03:23 AM
yeps his whole family was at uso and his dad goes alot.

16681
11-10-2005, 03:58 AM
That's good I like it when families are supportive. But not control freaks some tennis players have been ruined or just about because of their family.

Deboogle!.
11-10-2005, 04:29 AM
Nah I haven't heard anything about anyone crazy in Robby's family lol. I think those are few and far between (Agassi, Dokic, Hingis, Pierce, Sharapova... those were some crazy tennis parents). Robby's too low-key to have come from a nutso family :p

Fee
11-10-2005, 05:30 AM
He played in and won 4 matches in that Charity Event! I'm all for players helping with Charity Events, but not when they are supposed to be too hurt to play tennis. And yes I know the WTT rules are nothing like a real Tournament, but you still have to serve, make shots, etc.

No, he played 4 SETS of tennis, to five games in each set. Two of those sets were doubles.

Fee
11-10-2005, 05:32 AM
...still i'm giving up on andy for a while he has more mental issues than marat and that is saying something

I find this very interesting coming from you. Just last week you were saying that you were the type of fan that stays with her palyers through the ups and downs. What changed for you?

MissMoJo
11-10-2005, 05:33 AM
well hopefully rafa will in it and upset roger muhaha
boo :ras:

superpinkone37
11-10-2005, 05:34 AM
And I'm not sure if doubles, playing alongside Elton John, even qualifies as tennis. I believe the term is 'hit-and-giggle,' yo.

Fee
11-10-2005, 05:39 AM
Nah I haven't heard anything about anyone crazy in Robby's family lol. I think those are few and far between (Agassi, Dokic, Hingis, Pierce, Sharapova... those were some crazy tennis parents). Robby's too low-key to have come from a nutso family :p

I met Robby's sister at Superset and she seemed nice. I met his father at the USO this year, and he is very cool. He is laid back, just like Robby, but a little bit less so. He was very charming and handled two of Robby's fans (my friend and I) quite well. He actually remembered me from Superset, which really surprised me because that was 2 years ago. He plans to travel with Robby a little bit more next year, so I strongly recommended that he come to California for San Jose, Indian Wells, and LA. ;)

Deboogle!.
11-10-2005, 05:40 AM
No, he played 4 SETS of tennis, to five games in each set. Two of those sets were doubles.Actually three of them were ;) He played doubles with elton, too.

Anyway, Andy risked falling out of good standing on the ATP if he flaked out of TMC without a good reason and a bona fide excuse. That would be like as much as a year suspension, effectively. He may not be Copernicus but he's not stupid either.

Fee
11-10-2005, 05:49 AM
Copernicus? :haha: :haha:

Classic!

superpinkone37
11-10-2005, 05:54 AM
Copernicus is my homie.
We, like, study astronomy and stuff.
Like, how cool is that?

MisterQ
11-10-2005, 05:58 AM
Actually three of them were ;) He played doubles with elton, too.

Anyway, Andy risked falling out of good standing on the ATP if he flaked out of TMC without a good reason and a bona fide excuse. That would be like as much as a year suspension, effectively. He may not be Copernicus but he's not stupid either.

Whoa, hold on there, Galileo! Andy is not the center of the universe.

Copernicus was excommunicated, that's almost as bad as an ATP suspension.

Deboogle!.
11-10-2005, 06:06 AM
Whoa, hold on there, Galileo! Andy is not the center of the universe.

Copernicus was excommunicated, that's almost as bad as an ATP suspension.oh SNAP.

Well, I guess Copernicus is no Copernicus then. But it's ok, Andy's not Plato either. But he's still smart enough to not risk a year of his career :)

idolwatcher1
11-10-2005, 06:07 AM
They always sit far away. They did it at the USO when he won, too, he had to run around the stadium to find them. That's what they do, they're quietly supportive.

I still haven't decided where I'd sit if I had the choice, lol, so I shouldn't have said that his parents didn't have the "best" seats, because everyone has their own preference, and I don't even know what mine is yet, but they blended in with everyone else, so I guess that's why I said that :o ...but the reason I brought up his parents is 1.) I didn't expect them to be shown during the highlights special, and 2.) curious me wants to know their feelings about all this...because they know Andy more than we do, and why he makes his decisions, and they can even give him direct advice, etc...

Fee
11-10-2005, 06:09 AM
I need to consult with Magellan. I'm feeling a bit lost. I thought this was the Robby forum...

but Danielle can turn any discussion to her baby Vinny, I guess.

MisterQ
11-10-2005, 06:09 AM
oh SNAP.

Well, I guess Copernicus is no Copernicus then. But it's ok, Andy's not Plato either. But he's still smart enough to not risk a year of his career :)

Dead Polish dudes have never made great tennis players. As Einstein would say, it's all relative! :)

Deboogle!.
11-10-2005, 06:11 AM
I still haven't decided where I'd sit if I had the choice, lol, so I shouldn't have said that his parents didn't have the "best" seats, because everyone has their own preference, and I don't even know what mine is yet, but they blended in with everyone else, so I guess that's why I said that :o ...but the reason I brought up his parents is 1.) I didn't expect them to be shown during the highlights special, and 2.) curious me wants to know their feelings about all this...because they know Andy more than we do, and why he makes his decisions, and they can even give him direct advice, etc...oh I understand :) I just think they like being back and inconspicuous. I saw a show about Andy and some other juniors from when he was 17 and his mom said something that was like, we have to be the same for him whether he wins or loses. They just treat him like Andy, their son. So they sit where normal people would sit. It's just what they always do. They always go to Cincy too and are always shown on tv and are back somewhere. It's just what they do, they don't want to sit in the box with his team. I think it's kinda cool. They're just there to be supportive, not to get attention or whatever :) his dad is pretty active in his career, I'm sure since they were in Paris at least part of the tourney, that his dad gave some advice about something.

Deboogle!.
11-10-2005, 06:12 AM
I need to consult with Magellan. I'm feeling a bit lost. I thought this was the Robby forum...Vespucci and deSoto will help you find the way!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fee
11-10-2005, 06:15 AM
Are they Sicilians? There was a line in 'The Princess Bride' about Sicilians. I think it was never challenge one to a dare or something like that.

Princess Bride is the best movie ever, by the way. End.

MisterQ
11-10-2005, 06:16 AM
I need to consult with Magellan. I'm feeling a bit lost. I thought this was the Robby forum...


Stop circumnavigating the issue, Fee.

Deboogle!.
11-10-2005, 06:16 AM
Princess Bride is the best movie ever, by the way. End.Um No. Dirty Dancing is. Kthanksbye.

Fee
11-10-2005, 06:18 AM
Stop circumnavigating the issue, Fee.

D - E - D - D.

dedd. kthanksbye

superpinkone37
11-10-2005, 06:20 AM
My name is Danielle Spadea. Wobbly Fans dissed my Vinny. Prepare to die.

Danielle can turn any discussion to her baby Vinny, I guess.
yes, yes I can. :)

Fee
11-10-2005, 06:21 AM
See, Danielle is quoting 'The Princess Bride' so it is the best movie ever. End.

Deboogle!.
11-10-2005, 06:22 AM
Well, NOBODY PUTS BABY IN A CORNER.

So THERE. Hmph.

Fee
11-10-2005, 06:24 AM
Oh yeah? Well, perhaps we should have a duel, but if you don't mind, I'd like to use my left hand, its more of a challenge for me...

superpinkone37
11-10-2005, 06:26 AM
I'll use my, uh, left hand too.

Wait, whose side am I on? :sobbing:

Deboogle!.
11-10-2005, 06:27 AM
Mine, duh. Lefties stick together kthanks. And you wouldn't have met your loverboy if it weren't for me. DUH.

Fee
11-10-2005, 06:27 AM
Are you confused? Let me explain it to you, and I will use small words so that you will be sure to understand...

Deboogle!.
11-10-2005, 06:30 AM
Are you confused? Let me explain it to you, and I will use small words so that you will be sure to understand...Danielle has her own dictionary didn't you know? She doesn't need people to use small words;)

idolwatcher1
11-10-2005, 06:31 AM
oh I understand :) I just think they like being back and inconspicuous. I saw a show about Andy and some other juniors from when he was 17 and his mom said something that was like, we have to be the same for him whether he wins or loses. They just treat him like Andy, their son. So they sit where normal people would sit. It's just what they always do. They always go to Cincy too and are always shown on tv and are back somewhere. It's just what they do, they don't want to sit in the box with his team. I think it's kinda cool. They're just there to be supportive, not to get attention or whatever :) his dad is pretty active in his career, I'm sure since they were in Paris at least part of the tourney, that his dad gave some advice about something.

yeah, and Steffi Graf seems to sit way up in the back...I think...although, they don't always zoom in on her from afar, so I'm not positive about this, but everyone seems to have their preference...And, to get off topic even more, I thought it was cool that Nicole Kidman was at the US Open semis, she seemed to enjoy the tennis there as well as other stars... :)

Fee
11-10-2005, 06:32 AM
Danielle has her own dictionary didn't you know? She doesn't need people to use small words;)


You've never seen Princess Bride 37 times have you? My last few posts have all been lines from the film.

Humperdinck! Humperdinck!

superpinkone37
11-10-2005, 06:33 AM
Mine, duh. Lefties stick together kthanks. And you wouldn't have met your loverboy if it weren't for me. DUH.
true dat.

Wait, which one? :sobbing:

acoffeygirl
11-10-2005, 06:33 AM
Are they Sicilians? There was a line in 'The Princess Bride' about Sicilians. I think it was never challenge one to a dare or something like that.

Princess Bride is the best movie ever, by the way. End.

Oh I :hearts: Princess Bride!

Deboogle!.
11-10-2005, 03:16 PM
Wait, which one? :sobbing:You only have one loverboy :eek: VINCE DUH!

And no, Fee, I haven't even seen it once all the way through, let alone 37 times ;)

Dirty Dancing on the other hand :p

idolwatcher1
11-10-2005, 06:47 PM
Wobbly Fans dissed my Vinny.

It looked to me like Mae was the only one who expressed a negative opinion about Vince in Robby's forum...why the plural?? :scratch:

Fee
11-10-2005, 07:46 PM
And no, Fee, I haven't even seen it once all the way through, let alone 37 times ;)

Dirty Dancing on the other hand :p

Oh, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are an American and it is your PATRIOTIC duty to watch the Princess Bride. When you've seen it once, watching over and over again, finding it on TBS on Saturday afternoon without even looking, will come naturally to you. After that, you'll be saying, 'Dirty Dancing' who?

Trust me on this... ;)

Éowyn
11-10-2005, 09:49 PM
I find this very interesting coming from you. Just last week you were saying that you were the type of fan that stays with her palyers through the ups and downs. What changed for you?

i'm still supporting him! i'm just giving up on his brain! i think he needs a year to drop and then come back! don't tell me who i am supporting fee and who i am not! theres a big difference between saying i am giving up on him for a while and stopping supporting him. and as one of the few people on this entire board who has an actual right to be pissed off with andy i find ironic that i will still support when others will not.
i am simply stating that i will not be expecting him to win everything in sight next year! i did not say i would stop supporting him! and fact is that comment was made in a post where i was choosing who i wante dto be top 10 next year! where i put my fave players in order! fact is andy is out of my top 10 and down around 11 or 12! that is simply people like richard and rafa impressing me much more and growing on me more. it's the same reason jan-mike and taylor are not in that list. i have given up alot of hope of them ever being as good as they should be but that doe snot eman i do not still support them.

Éowyn
11-10-2005, 09:54 PM
oh I understand :) I just think they like being back and inconspicuous. I saw a show about Andy and some other juniors from when he was 17 and his mom said something that was like, we have to be the same for him whether he wins or loses. They just treat him like Andy, their son. So they sit where normal people would sit. It's just what they always do. They always go to Cincy too and are always shown on tv and are back somewhere. It's just what they do, they don't want to sit in the box with his team. I think it's kinda cool. They're just there to be supportive, not to get attention or whatever :) his dad is pretty active in his career, I'm sure since they were in Paris at least part of the tourney, that his dad gave some advice about something.

i think alot of the players families like to do that! even steffi does it for andre and sits right at the back

Éowyn
11-10-2005, 09:57 PM
yeah, and Steffi Graf seems to sit way up in the back...I think...although, they don't always zoom in on her from afar, so I'm not positive about this, but everyone seems to have their preference...And, to get off topic even more, I thought it was cool that Nicole Kidman was at the US Open semis, she seemed to enjoy the tennis there as well as other stars... :)

lmao sorry i posted my last message before i saw this still funny you said same thing

Éowyn
11-10-2005, 09:58 PM
My name is Danielle Spadea. Wobbly Fans dissed my Vinny. Prepare to die.

LMAO i believeit was just the one fan dear

Fee
11-10-2005, 09:58 PM
i'm still supporting him! i'm just giving up on his brain! i think he needs a year to drop and then come back! don't tell me who i am supporting fee and who i am not! theres a big difference between saying i am giving up on him for a while and stopping supporting him. and as one of the few people on this entire board who has an actual right to be pissed off with andy i find ironic that i will still support when others will not.
i am simply stating that i will not be expecting him to win everything in sight next year! i did not say i would stop supporting him! and fact is that comment was made in a post where i was choosing who i wante dto be top 10 next year! where i put my fave players in order! fact is andy is out of my top 10 and down around 11 or 12! that is simply people like richard and rafa impressing me much more and growing on me more. it's the same reason jan-mike and taylor are not in that list. i have given up alot of hope of them ever being as good as they should be but that doe snot eman i do not still support them.

I didn't 'tell' you anything. I asked you a question. Thanks for the bad rep.

Éowyn
11-10-2005, 10:02 PM
Oh, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are an American and it is your PATRIOTIC duty to watch the Princess Bride. When you've seen it once, watching over and over again, finding it on TBS on Saturday afternoon without even looking, will come naturally to you. After that, you'll be saying, 'Dirty Dancing' who?

Trust me on this... ;)

it is her patriotic duty as am american to watch a film filmed entirely in the UK and ireland? :scratch:

Éowyn
11-10-2005, 10:04 PM
I didn't 'tell' you anything. I asked you a question. Thanks for the bad rep.

bad rep??????? :eek: that was meant to be a good rep sorry think i might have been on automatic pilot coz i just bad repped someone in rafas forum for slagging off carlita! sorry hun it was menat to be good i swear

superpinkone37
11-11-2005, 04:43 AM
i believeit was just the one fan dear
Thanks...I didn't really need to be told twice. Besides, more than one person was talking about Vince even if may have been just one who actually said something mean about him. But excuuuuuse me.

Also if bad repping Fee was a 'mistake,' was your good rep to me recently a 'mistake' also?

Éowyn
11-12-2005, 12:33 AM
no your good rep was menat to be a godo rep i like your avvy it's funny :) and yes were were talking about vinny coz we were talking about rapping!

my bad obviously we shoudl not talk about any other player in this forum shame on us! perhaps we shoudl not do so! but then i don't see any other forum getting jumped on when they dare to mention another player so perhaps we will carry on regardless

superpinkone37
11-12-2005, 01:43 AM
I never said anything suggesting that other players should not be discussed in here. All I have a problem with is when people talk bad about other players, especially when those same people are ones that get extremely upset at any comment about say, Robby, that isn't praising him or something.

Éowyn
11-12-2005, 02:26 AM
is it possible that after all this time people still haven't worked out that no one has a damn problem with people say things about robby, they have problems with non robby fans coming into this forum only to fight which is exactly what happened in the lyon fan seriously if you can't get over it already give it up!

it's not like mae went into vince's forum as a non vince fan and slagged him off and she never pretended to be a vince fan when she is not. and as everytime anyone in this forum mentions a player other than robby and mario soemone has a go at them it is seriously pathetic and people wonder why mtf is getting bad rep :rolleyes:

fact is none of that is important, mae made a comment about vince you didn't like and you defended him good for you, but she appologised and you blamed everyone for her comments, which to be honest weren't that bad, i've seen much worse things said about vince in the andy forum and i didn't see you jumping down their necks it seems if someone is in a bad mood they come to robbys forum to rant and thats not fair on the robby fans or robby.

superpinkone37
11-12-2005, 05:45 AM
:haha:

Éowyn
11-12-2005, 06:03 AM
:rolleyes:

superpinkone37
11-12-2005, 06:11 AM
:rolls:

Éowyn
11-12-2005, 06:17 AM
:p

superpinkone37
11-12-2005, 06:22 AM
:yawn:

Éowyn
11-12-2005, 06:27 AM
:baby:
:dance:
:zzz:

superpinkone37
11-12-2005, 06:29 AM
I see you've taken a liking to me. Would you like to be president of my fanclub?

Éowyn
11-12-2005, 06:31 AM
i like posting smileys!

as i said before hun i don't have a problem with you never have done. i just care about robby boy :)

and sure i'll start you a fanclub did yu want a fanlisting like all the people in my sig i wonder if TFL will allow one for an mtf poster :lol:

MissMoJo
11-12-2005, 06:34 AM
:confused:

superpinkone37
11-12-2005, 06:35 AM
OMG!

Éowyn
11-12-2005, 06:38 AM
:lol: i think you'd get too many members for me to keep up with anyway :p and i have to make a moo one for paulie :scared:
andywhobies i'm off to bed! :zzz: esp as it's 6.40am :eek:

Éowyn
11-12-2005, 06:40 AM
:confused:

:eek: jo are you lost again? first nando land now robby :eek: or are you still playing hide and seek with guille :p

superpinkone37
11-12-2005, 06:40 AM
1. Excuses, excuses.

2. :woohoo:

MissMoJo
11-12-2005, 06:42 AM
:lol: i think you'd get too many members for me to keep up with anyway :p and i have to make a moo one for paulie :scared:

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Éowyn
11-12-2005, 06:42 AM
lmao :ras: if you want i'll make ya one it'd be funny :lol:

MissMoJo
11-12-2005, 06:43 AM
:eek: jo are you lost again? first nando land now robby :eek: or are you still playing hide and seek with guille :p
i like to venture into hostile territory from time to time :p

Éowyn
11-12-2005, 06:44 AM
:mad: :mad: :mad:

why are you :mad:ing me? i thought you'd want a moo FL? you weren't :mad: before when i said i've applied for it for paulie to learn "compy stuff" as she called it lol

Éowyn
11-12-2005, 06:45 AM
i like to venture into hostile territory from time to time :p

:lol: nando and robby hardly hostile territory dear well unless you wanna insult robby or vince then it gets a bit hostile

superpinkone37
11-12-2005, 06:45 AM
no won messes wiht my wincent!!! :mad:

Éowyn
11-12-2005, 06:47 AM
no won messes wiht my wincent!!! :mad:
:haha:

MissMoJo
11-12-2005, 06:48 AM
:wavey: i'm really going to bed now

Éowyn
11-12-2005, 06:49 AM
:wavey: i'm really going to bed now

don't forget to quack before you go to bed :p

and btw you left msn to go to bed like an hour ago and i thought i was bad still being here 10 minutes after saying was gonna go :lol:

superpinkone37
11-12-2005, 06:55 AM
Goodnight Jo! :wavey: :hug: