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Who is King Dropshot??

Frederick16
10-28-2005, 02:50 PM
We all know that Patty is the ultimate queen, but who on the ATP performs the best drop??? couple of years ago i would have said JCF...

Action Jackson
10-28-2005, 02:52 PM
Coria, Portas, C. Rochus.

Frederick16
10-28-2005, 02:54 PM
Portas??? then not with his backhand i think! but you mention 3 good guys i think!

Galaxystorm
10-28-2005, 02:54 PM
Among active players Coria.........¿ JCF? :confused: , Nope, for example Moya has always been better dropshot-maker than him

Angle Queen
10-28-2005, 02:55 PM
I like Roger's off the BH side...DTL usually.

celia
10-28-2005, 02:55 PM
Stepanek.

Chloe le Bopper
10-28-2005, 02:56 PM
Portas??? then not with his backhand i think! but you mention 3 good guys i think!
Yes, Portas. They don't call him the dropshot dragon for nothing :p

Coria also springs to mind immediately.

R.Federer
10-28-2005, 02:57 PM
Portas is not known as dropshot dragon for no reason.....

But I also think Coria's dropshot style is very impressive, and also Robredos used to be very good. Lately I have not seen it done as well as before

And although it is not part of his usual routine, I think Roge's surprise use of the dropshot now and again is pretty darn good :)

ClaycourtaZzZz.
10-28-2005, 02:58 PM
AndyM plays it quite often and mostly good.

R.Federer
10-28-2005, 02:58 PM
Chleo le boper! Iwrote the same thing as you, but had not seen your post we were typing at the same time

Galaxystorm
10-28-2005, 02:59 PM
I like Roger's off the BH side...DTL usually.

Federer hates the dropshots , it's a marginal shot in his playstyle

Action Jackson
10-28-2005, 03:00 PM
Portas??? then not with his backhand i think! but you mention 3 good guys i think!

Han heter "stoppballkongen", når han vann Hamburg som kvalificer mot Ferrero i finalen, det var på grunn av sin stoppballer og han e jättedyktig på denne slag.

Chloe le Bopper
10-28-2005, 03:01 PM
Chleo le boper! Iwrote the same thing as you, but had not seen your post we were typing at the same time
It happens!

Frederick16
10-28-2005, 03:03 PM
Han heter "stoppballkongen", når han vann Hamburg som kvalificer mot Ferrero i finalen, det var på grunn av sin stoppballer og han e jättedyktig på denne slag.


Du har rätt :)

Angle Queen
10-28-2005, 03:05 PM
Federer hates the dropshots , it's a marginal shot in his playstyleThat's what makes it so effective...because he doesn't use it often. It is exceptionally well-disguised.

Action Jackson
10-28-2005, 03:05 PM
Gaudio can hit some good ones, but he doesn't always play them well.

PahelWaske
10-28-2005, 03:06 PM
You'll laugh but Florian Mayers drop shots are indeed very effective and surprising for his opponents, especially with his flying backhand. Of course only a few people outside German have seen 2,3,4,5 matches of that guy as he had a lousy season in 05 and was consequently never broadcasted in the international tv :sad:

Frederick16
10-28-2005, 03:07 PM
i saw haas - mayer at RG and indeed... he has good ones but what a ugly technique!!! :(

Galaxystorm
10-28-2005, 03:08 PM
That's what makes it so effective...because he doesn't use it often. It is exceptionally well-disguised.

This thread is about who's the king of dropshots, not all the players that are able to hit good dropshots...then hitting only few dropshots Fed can't be called as king...

PahelWaske
10-28-2005, 03:11 PM
This thread is about who's the king of dropshots, not all the players that are able to hit good dropshots...then hitting only few dropshots you can't be called as king...


hehe sopot semis when Mayer beat Coria in 3, main reason was apparently that el mago was so mad and pissed about the drop shots of the German, the article on the page expressed that though, of course there's no tape or so :mad:

star
10-28-2005, 03:12 PM
You may not have gotten the memo that Roger automatically must be counted as the best for all shots. :) :) :)

celia
10-28-2005, 03:13 PM
That's what makes it so effective...because he doesn't use it often. It is exceptionally well-disguised.
he can't qualify for King Dropshot when he has made it clear that he despises the shot. :shrug:

Frederick16
10-28-2005, 03:13 PM
so not. he hasnt the best serve and not the best backhand and not the best forehand.

Action Jackson
10-28-2005, 03:13 PM
Mayer has a great backhand jump drop shot.

celia
10-28-2005, 03:13 PM
You may not have gotten the memo that Roger automatically must be counted as the best for all shots. :) :) :)
on the other hand this is also true. :p

prima donna
10-28-2005, 03:14 PM
Roger probably has the best Dropper on tour, but he doesn't like to resort to this tactic ... he feels it's an act of desperation ... so aside from Mr. Federer ... Guillermo Coria of course ... it's beautiful ... an absolute work of art ... like the rest of his game ... catches his opponent deep & flat-footed ... the perfect recipe for disaster and death.

Vamos Guillermo!

Frederick16
10-28-2005, 03:14 PM
But we are discussing the drop.!!! its my favourite shot!! so thats why the thread! :)

Galaxystorm
10-28-2005, 03:14 PM
hehe sopot semis when Mayer beat Coria in 3, main reason was apparently that el mago was so mad and pissed about the drop shots of the German, the article on the page expressed that though, of course there's no tape or so :mad:

I completely agree with you , Mayer is better dropshot-maker than Coria :rolleyes:

Angle Queen
10-28-2005, 03:15 PM
This thread is about who's the king of dropshots, not all the players that are able to hit good dropshots...then hitting only few dropshots Fed can't be called as king...You're right. I should have said that some of the clay guys use it far more often and are deserving of the 'title'...but it's not the first (nor the last) time someone will post something not directly related to the title. All I said was I liked Roger's (and I'm not really a Roger fan so don't go down that road) not that he was King. Lighten up.

Frederick16
10-28-2005, 03:15 PM
Dont we remember the drop and lob tactic of Mikael Pernfors!!! soooo good! :worship:

Action Jackson
10-28-2005, 03:17 PM
Dont we remember the drop and lob tactic of Mikael Pernfors!!! soooo good! :worship:

I mean this is about the modern players, I could always go on about Nastase he was brilliant at that and Kent Carlsson loved the drop shot and lob tactic.

Frederick16
10-28-2005, 03:19 PM
you are right...

Castafiore
10-28-2005, 03:20 PM
Coria :)

Angle Queen
10-28-2005, 03:20 PM
But we are discussing the drop.!!! its my favourite shot!! so thats why the thread! :):yeah: Good topic, indeed, Frederick. Sorry GS and I have gotten into a pi$$ing match about it.

I think it's a vastly underrated shot...and incredibly difficult to learn and execute with any consistency. A really good one doesn't even need to be disguised but knowing when to use it is just as important, IMHO, as knowing how to do it in the first place.

Galaxystorm
10-28-2005, 03:22 PM
so not. he hasnt the best serve and not the best backhand and not the best forehand.

In my opinion Fed's fh is the best among ATP players..

Gonzo's fh is less efective.
Moya's fh is less regular
Ferrero's fh is in coma since one year ago
etc
etc

When Fed's fh works ( that is , the 90% of matches ) , the opponent is just a marionette under his tyranny

Frederick16
10-28-2005, 03:23 PM
i also use it often. and then come in the field to pass or volley the ball. but the pros are sooo fit and can anticipate very good so its hard to use it for the pros. and its hard to handle their pace and spin of the shot to drop it real short.

NYCtennisfan
10-28-2005, 03:25 PM
I like Roger's off the BH side...DTL usually.

He used it amazingly in some matches i.e. against Safin at the AO and at the French.

Overall, I like Coria's. He frustrated Roddick by continually using it even on grass which is rare. Drop volleys, yes, but dropshots off of both wings 10+ plus times on grass??

celia
10-28-2005, 03:27 PM
i played doubles two nights ago and we definitely won bec of using the dropshot. there is nothing like a well-timed and well-executed dropshot. and when it is done by Rogi, the element of surprise definitely works in his favor.

Angle Queen
10-28-2005, 03:27 PM
i also use it often. and then come in the field to pass or volley the ball. but the pros are sooo fit and can anticipate very good so its hard to use it for the pros. and its hard to handle their pace and spin of the shot to drop it real short.That's why I think they (dropshots) are so impressive when they work. It's one of those moments, where you seem to see it happening in slow motion. If it's being perpetrated on you, you go through a very quick decision process: I might can get there...or...damn, that's just too good.

When I try it myself...I have to try to remember to come in behind it too (because I think the best defense of a DS is to DS back if you can get to it :) ).

Frederick16
10-28-2005, 03:31 PM
dropshot in a double??? :eek: !! wow. i can only use im in single because we serve and volley in the double!

celia
10-28-2005, 03:31 PM
...

When I try it myself...I have to try to remember to come in behind it too (because I think the best defense of a DS is to DS back if you can get to it :) ).
that's my problem. i often stay back bec i am so confident that i am going to win the point. and i mainly do. but then there are those times when my opponent gets to it and i can't do a damn thing to win the point. :lol:

Frederick16
10-28-2005, 03:32 PM
celia you watch schnyder sometime she is sooooo good at it. that backspin!!! :worship:

Galaxystorm
10-28-2005, 03:33 PM
i played doubles two nights ago and we definitely won bec of using the dropshot. there is nothing like a well-timed and well-executed dropshot. and when it is done by Rogi, the element of surprise definitely works in his favor.

I didn't know that dropshot was a key shot in doubles matches . :rolleyes:

celia
10-28-2005, 03:34 PM
I didn't know that :rolleyes: dropshot was a key shot in doubles matches .
why respond to me at all? :rolleyes:

Frederick16
10-28-2005, 03:35 PM
i womens the cross till they drop dead! haha. then it is smart to get the opponent to the net and lob them. i tell my little sis to do that also :devil:

Angle Queen
10-28-2005, 03:35 PM
dropshot in a double??? :eek: !! wow. i can only use im in single because we serve and volley in the double!The womens game (at the rec level, at least) is a bit different and it's not unusual to see one or both opponents back. A short shot (even if not exactly a dropper) is an essential element in womens doubles...to either draw them in out of their comfort zone or to simply catch them out of position.

celia
10-28-2005, 03:35 PM
celia you watch schnyder sometime she is sooooo good at it. that backspin!!! :worship:
yes she is excellent. so was Hingis. ;)

and Galaxydude, the dropshot is perfect in doubles when both of your opponents are at the baseline. :rolleyes:

clearly you do not play tennis.

celia
10-28-2005, 03:37 PM
The womens game (at the rec level, at least) is a bit different and it's not unusual to see one or both opponents back. A short shot (even if not exactly a dropper) is an essential element in womens doubles...to either draw them in out of their comfort zone or to simply catch them out of position.
:worship: and obviously you actually play. ;)

Action Jackson
10-28-2005, 03:40 PM
i also use it often. and then come in the field to pass or volley the ball. but the pros are sooo fit and can anticipate very good so its hard to use it for the pros. and its hard to handle their pace and spin of the shot to drop it real short.

Man kan overbruker stoppbollen, glemte eg Nico Lapentti han var jävla dyktig med stoppbollen. Så lenge slagen brukade på rett tiden og ikkje hver to poenger, ha moro med stoppbollen.

Galaxystorm
10-28-2005, 03:41 PM
:worship: and obviously you actually play. ;)

Are we in MTF or in WTF ? :scratch:

Galaxystorm
10-28-2005, 03:43 PM
yes she is excellent. so was Hingis. ;)

and Galaxydude, the dropshot is perfect in doubles when both of your opponents are at the baseline. :rolleyes:

clearly you do not play tennis.

I only said , dropshot isn't a key shot in men's tennis..

Angle Queen
10-28-2005, 03:43 PM
:p

No fair, GW. You've switched to something I can't understand and I don't think it's an inside joke ;) So come on...share with us!

arn
10-28-2005, 03:43 PM
Rochus C, he uses the dropshot A LOT, BH and FH. Not only to make to point straight away, but also to set up the point :)

celia
10-28-2005, 03:44 PM
Are we in MTF or in WTF ? :scratch:
no we're on a tennisboard. and we're discussing tennis. and i just realized that not everyone who posts on a tennisboard can actually play tennis. my bad.

Galaxystorm
10-28-2005, 03:45 PM
:p

No fair, GW. You've switched to something I can't understand and I don't think it's an inside joke ;) So come on...share with us!

GW's language is universal :bowdown: , the new Esperanto :)

celia
10-28-2005, 03:46 PM
I didn't know that dropshot was a key shot in doubles matches . :rolleyes:
this is actually what you said. the word "MEN" is not mentioned anywhere. take note. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Galaxystorm
10-28-2005, 03:46 PM
no we're on a tennisboard. and we're discussing tennis. and i just realized that not everyone who posts on a tennisboard can actually play tennis. my bad.

I don't use to play women's doubles matches because of my indentity card says i'm male :sobbing:

Galaxystorm
10-28-2005, 03:48 PM
this is actually what you said. the word "MEN" is not mentioned anywhere. take note. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:lol: , ok i see we are definitely in a WTA forum and not in MTF :o

celia
10-28-2005, 03:48 PM
I don't use to play women's doubles matches because of my indentity card says i'm male :sobbing:
and my being named Celia means that i either play women's or mixed doubles. clearly.

and the dropshot can be a very useful shot, even in doubles. just to get back to the topic at hand.

celia
10-28-2005, 03:50 PM
:lol: , ok i see we are definitely in a WTA forum and not in MTF :o
i made a reference to MY having played tennis 2 nights ago and that we won bec of using the dropshot. you responded that you did not think the dropshot was useful in doubles. i disagreed and continue to do so. no amount of twisting things will change the fact that you're talking out of your ass. now be a grown-up and drop it.

Galaxystorm
10-28-2005, 03:53 PM
and my being named Celia means that i either play women's or mixed doubles. clearly.

and the dropshot can be a very useful shot, even in doubles. just to get back to the topic at hand.

" Useful " is very different than " to be very used ", i guess you understand what i mean ;)

celia
10-28-2005, 03:54 PM
" Useful " is very different than " to be very used ", i guess you understand what i mean ;)
i understand that you're an idiot who doesn't know shit. does your mom know that you're on the internet? :rolleyes:

Grenouille
10-28-2005, 03:54 PM
Murray will be soon:)

Silawen
10-28-2005, 03:57 PM
Jeeesh, can't we play nice? Or at least pretend to?

On-topic, I think Coria is definately a dropshot king. He uses it dilligantly and with authority.

With Murray I think it's more an old habit that he uses when he's in trouble and should work on, since it's not really a strenght yet.

celia
10-28-2005, 04:00 PM
Jeeesh, can't we play nice? Or at least pretend to?

On-topic, I think Coria is definately a dropshot king. He uses it dilligantly and with authority.

With Murray I think it's more an old habit that he uses when he's in trouble and should work on, since it's not really a strenght yet.
:kiss:

i think Coria used to be the dropshot king. but his opponents have figured out his game and he has become less effective using it. therefore he is no longer the king IMO.

Galaxystorm
10-28-2005, 04:00 PM
i understand that you're an idiot who doesn't know shit. does your mom know that you're on the internet? :rolleyes:

I see your parents didn't teach you to be polite when you were just a stupid girl. I'm not gonna waste my time with asshole teenagers

Bye :wavey:

celia
10-28-2005, 04:01 PM
I see your parents don' teach you to be polite when you were just a stupid girl. I'm not gonna waste my time with asshole teenagers

Bye :wavey:
and suddenly it smells nice in here. :) :wavey:

Silawen
10-28-2005, 04:03 PM
:kiss:

i think Coria used to be the dropshot king. but his opponents have figured out his game and he has become less effective using it. therefore he is no longer the king IMO.

I guess you're right, though that's basically the case with any dropshot kings. Once their opponents figure out that they use it a lot then they'll be ready for it. Same with Murray in his game against Henman, once he used it a couple of times it was basically useless.

However, the way Coria uses/used it is so gorgeous that I'm willing to call him dropshot king eventhough I don't really like him that much. ;)

celia
10-28-2005, 04:06 PM
I guess you're right, though that's basically the case with any dropshot kings. Once their opponents figure out that they use it a lot then they'll be ready for it. Same with Murray in his game against Henman, once he used it a couple of times it was basically useless.

However, the way Coria uses/used it is so gorgeous that I'm willing to call him dropshot king eventhough I don't really like him that much. ;)
and this i can agree with. Coria's is definitely the mould that everyone can learn from. it's like Rios' jumping backhand. awesome shot. but it's hard to remain the king when there is so much competition out there. ;)

Angle Queen
10-28-2005, 04:06 PM
Jeeesh, can't we play nice? Or at least pretend to?Eh, sometimes a good :boxing: between two newbies can be interesting. Plus, it gets Frederick some more vCash. ;)

On-topic, I think Coria is definately a dropshot king. He uses it dilligantly and with authority.

With Murray I think it's more an old habit that he uses when he's in trouble and should work on, since it's not really a strenght yet.:lol: I wish I could go to it when I'm in trouble. I usually only try it...when I'm way ahead.

As for Coria, I'll admit, it's been a few years since I've seen a complete match of his (:( American tennis TV) but I remember him as you describe. Perhaps, as celia suggests, he's been equalled or surpassed by others...but that bar was pretty darn high.

Action Jackson
10-28-2005, 04:09 PM
:p

No fair, GW. You've switched to something I can't understand and I don't think it's an inside joke ;) So come on...share with us!

Nothing I actually said was important before, even less so than usual.

If someone wants a dropshot master.

The name is Mansour Bahrami the rest are pretenders.

SwissMister1
10-28-2005, 04:11 PM
I think I've learned a new word - is "stoppballen" the phrase for drop shot, GWH? Maybe P-Mac can use that instead of "THE EYE DROPPAH!"

Mayer, the king of pretty technique, wins this hands down, I have only seen him pull it off once or twice, but it is a thing of beauty.

Angle Queen
10-28-2005, 04:15 PM
Nothing I actually said was important before, even less so than usual.You? Say something unimportant? Bah!

If someone wants a dropshot master.

The name is Mansour Bahrami the rest are pretenders.Never had the pleasure. Can/Will you tell us about him?

Deivid23
10-28-2005, 04:16 PM
Roddick´s fh dropshot and LaLo´s bh dropshot, just classics

celia
10-28-2005, 04:17 PM
If someone wants a dropshot master.

The name is Mansour Bahrami the rest are pretenders.
is he the guy that stuffs balls in his mouth and does all kinds of stupid shit to get people to laugh? if it is, yes he has a good drop shot but i can't bear to watch him for more than five minutes bec after a while his antics become irritating to me. but i know that he is a big crowd pleaser.

Angle Queen
10-28-2005, 04:17 PM
I think I've learned a new word - is "stoppballen" the phrase for drop shot, GWH? Maybe P-Mac can use that instead of "THE EYE DROPPAH!" :lol: I picked that out too (given the topic, or supposed, topic of conversation).

Note to P-Mac: brush up on your Scandinavian tennis terms!

Deivid23
10-28-2005, 04:19 PM
Santiago Ventura (I´m not kidding here)

Angle Queen
10-28-2005, 04:20 PM
Santiago Ventura (I´m not kidding here)And you were before?

:haha: :haha:

Deivid23
10-28-2005, 04:24 PM
And you were before?

:haha: :haha:

2nd post was serious, Ventura has a wonderful "touch" at making dropshots

Action Jackson
10-28-2005, 04:24 PM
This is a long article, but relevant to any talk about the dropshot.

Bahrami is another league. Imagine if he could have left Iran at an earlier age than he did.

I loved his tricks, here is an article.



http://www.delorenzosdugout.com/mansour.htm

Mansour Bahrami: The Best Player You Never Heard of

By James H. DeLorenzo

[Originally published in the ATP Tour's International Tennis Magazine July/August 1997 issue.]

The tales about Mansour Bahrami could make a great movie, featuring political intrigue, romance, exotic international locales, a compelling central character, as well as some spectacular tennis.

Bahrami is probably the best known player that no one has ever heard of, for a multitude of reasons. He is currently a mainstay of the men's over-35 senior tennis circuit, known as the Nuveen Tour in the United States. The 41-year-old Iranian plays alongside more familiar names such as Jimmy Connors, Bjorn Borg, John McEnroe and Guillermo Vilas.

Often, however, it is Bahrami the fans come to love, cheering on the colorful, mustachioed champion of the trick shot.

Johan Kriek remembers Bahrami on the satellite circuit in South Africa in the '70s.

"Believe it or not, he was doing his tricks even more then," Kriek said. "He was a talentedly wacky player, and then he just vanished."

Bahrami's story begins in Arak, Iran, where Bahrami was raised in a small hut measuring about 12 meters square. His father was a gardener, making minimal wages, at the royal tennis courts in Tehran's sports center, enabling Bahrami to grow up around tennis.

At the age of five, Bahrami became a 10 cents an hour ball boy at the courts, but he was strictly forbidden to play tennis. Since buying his own racquet was also out of the question, Bahrami learned to play tennis using a dustpan, or a piece of wood, or the palm of his hand. He had no coach, or lessons.

"To have a coach, you had to pay, and I couldn't afford it," said Bahrami. "I learned everything myself from watching people play."

When he was 13, someone gave him their used racquet. But it didn't last long. For not only was equipment expensive and hard to find, but court time itself was a dangerous commodity.

Bahrami and some of his friends decided to play on the royal courts one day when no one was around - it was over 100 degrees during the hottest time of the year.

"I started to play and within one minute, I saw these guards come out and they took me and beat me up very badly," Bahrami said. "They slammed me to the ground five or six times until I was bleeding from the head and ears. Then they took my racquet and stepped on it until it was in splinters."

So it was back to the dustpans and walls for Bahrami, at least for a while. Somehow, a few months later, the Iranian Tennis Foundation took notice of the young Bahrami. At 16, he was selected to take part in a junior Wimbledon tournament.

"I stayed at the King George Hotel, but I had no money," he said. "I didn't eat anything for three days, and after that, I had to play on the first grass court I ever saw in my life."

Not surprisingly, he lost to Billy Martin, 6-0, 6-0. But it gave him a glimpse of what tennis could be. And then, just as he was becoming a Davis Cup hopeful, his world came crashing down when the Ayatollah came to power in 1978.

"We were told tennis was an imperialist, capitalist game and we weren't allowed to play," said Bahrami. "It was terrible for me. I had no job. I had no work. I couldn't play tennis. I could convince no one to play with me. We were afraid we would be shot."

Bahrami talked with a friend who knew the Foreign Minister and lobbied to get a visa to France. The tennis courts were open there; unfortunately, so were the casinos. He landed in Nice in August, 1980 with about $2,000 in pocket money.

"I figured I could live on that maybe 10 days or so. Then I thought, if I win at the casinos I can get maybe $8,000 or $9,000 and stay three, four months. In 20 minutes, I lost all my money."

Bahrami slept under bridges and ate chestnuts, until a chance meeting with an Iranian tennis acquaintance led him to playing in several small tournaments. He found part-time employment giving lessons at the Villepinte Tennis Club near Paris.

"There were days in Paris when I had nothing to eat," Bahrami recalled. "I walked the streets because I had nowhere to go. But I tried to think positive. I always believed that if you want something and pay the price, you can do it."

He was able to renew his visa, but French officials told him he had to declare himself a political refugee or leave the country.

"I don't do politics, I play tennis," said Bahrami.

Refusing to label himself politically, Bahrami dodged the authorities for two months until he, surprisingly, qualified for the 1981 French Open. There, Bahrami beat one of the top French players, Davis Cup veteran Jean-Louis Haillet in straight sets, and gained the attention of the French press.

"They wrote how wrong it was for a great sportsman not to be a citizen of the world. And I got my green card."

Five years later, Bahrami gained a visa to travel abroad, and joined the ATP Tour at the age of 30. His proudest moment may have come at the 1989 French Open, when Bahrami teamed with Eric Winogradsky to reach the doubles final. (He reached his highest ranking in singles, #192, in 1988, and was ranked #31 in doubles in 1987.)

Off the court, life in Paris led, as one would expect, to romance. He met his wife, Frederique, in a traffic jam on the Champs Elysee, three minutes before midnight on New Year's Eve 1981.

As Bahrami tells the tale, "I started talking to this woman in another car. I thought she was nice. And I said, is it true that on New Year's Eve people hug each other and say Happy New Year. And she said, yes. So by this time it was midnight, and I just got out of my car and said Happy New Year and gave her a hug. And two years later, we got married."

Together Bahrami and Frederique have two boys, Sam (12) and Antoine (8).

Someone who saw Bahrami play at this time was Connors, who invited Bahrami to join his then-fledgling senior circuit in 1994.

"I thought his attitude, the way he goes about things, would be appreciated in America," Connors said. "He adds a lot to what we've got going here. He's fun on the court, fun off it. The fans didn't know him the first year, but now everywhere we go they ask if he's going to be playing."

"I am a showman," said Bahrami of his unusual court presence. "Maybe this is not right to say, but I like to perform. I like to see the people laugh, I like to entertain them. Winning is not the main thing. For me, the main thing is that people enjoy what I did. That is very, very important to me."

Bahrami's tricks on court, whether a lethal topspin, catching a lobbed ball in his pants pocket or holding a dozen balls in one hand while serving, are crowd-pleasers, but can unnerve opponents.

"Whenever my friends and I got a chance to play, we'd undercut the ball just to see how it would go," the court jester explained. "I never had a coach, so nobody ever taught me to stop it."

"Sometimes the players get mad at me because the people are happy, sometimes they think I am disrespecting them, but it has nothing to do with the players. The people are paying me. It is the people who are making this work. If the people don't come out, there's no sports to worry about," said Bahrami.

One of Bahrami's opponents on the Nuveen Tour is Eddie Dibbs.

"He's amazing," Dibbs said. "He undercuts the ball and it comes back over the net. He's a pretty good athlete, and puts on a good show, but he's a pain in the butt to play."

John Lloyd, another Nuveen Tour stalwart, agreed. "His drop shots are very frustrating," said Lloyd. "I beat him once, but I did so much running I was cramping after the match."

"Who knows what I could have done if I had been able to play when I was in my 20s," Bahrami said. "The years these players were in the highest ranks of professional tennis, I was not allowed to play. I lost 10 of my best years. I never won a title, I never had the chance. But it does no good to think about that. I never thought I couldn't compete with these guys (Connors, Borg, McEnroe and company). I'm very honored to be playing with these guys now.

"Tennis is something very special in my life," continued Bahrami. "I don't think I can live without playing tennis.

"I also think I'm a very lucky man," Bahrami concluded. "I'm very lucky to have a family, I'm very lucky to be over 40 and playing with the legends of tennis."

Bahrami, recently captured the doubles title at May's Corel Champions tournament in Washington, DC alongside Tim Wilkison. The best player you never heard of continues to create his own tennis legend

Action Jackson
10-28-2005, 04:26 PM
Santiago Ventura (I´m not kidding here)

Yes, he was giving it to Nalle in the match I saw this year, with his drop shots and touch volleys.

Here is one I forgot the original pirate Emilio Alvarez, this guy loved the dropshot and had good touch.

Angle Queen
10-28-2005, 04:33 PM
2nd post was serious, Ventura has a wonderful "touch" at making dropshots;) Knew you were. Andy and dropshot in the same sentence just doesn't compute (although I think he pulled off a nice one or two earlier in the week at Lyon).

Angle Queen
10-28-2005, 04:37 PM
This is a long article, but relevant to any talk about the dropshot.Thanks for the article, GW. I think maybe I've seen some 'clips' of his antics but never a full match. And definitely an interesting story.

Lee
10-28-2005, 04:46 PM
This is a long article, but relevant to any talk about the dropshot.


Thanks Sigurd Joan Torfinn Egil Julio Miloslav Bjørn Arto da Souza Faria la Plate Levendi Zipfer Lowenstein the 4th.

It's a good one :yeah:

NicoFan
10-28-2005, 04:50 PM
Federer hates the dropshots , it's a marginal shot in his playstyle

:yeah: to Roger. I hate it too - it is totally a marginal shot, and annoying as hell. I was ready to scream during one of Guille's final matches with Rafa this past spring where it seemed like every other shot was a drop shot. I was so happy when Rafa started to figure out when it was coming and could chase it down.

PaulieM
10-28-2005, 05:19 PM
coria's dropshot is my fave :)

Frederick16
10-28-2005, 05:51 PM
Did anyone saw that last point of patty against hantuchova??? oh my a perfect one.... haha 4 drops and it lay still in the service square... :worship:

peteslamz
10-28-2005, 06:10 PM
Gasquet

mangoes
10-28-2005, 06:13 PM
Coria

Julio1974
10-28-2005, 06:57 PM
Coria. No doubts.

nermo
10-28-2005, 07:35 PM
1- Carlos Moya
2- Coria

soraya
10-28-2005, 08:23 PM
This thread is about who's the king of dropshots, not all the players that are able to hit good dropshots...then hitting only few dropshots Fed can't be called as king...

He does not even like it, according to king fed dropshot is like cheating.

Peoples
10-28-2005, 08:27 PM
Stepanek

Federer dislikes at least 2 shots: one is the forehand slice and the other is the dropshot. It doesn't mean he's not occasionally using them but they aren't part of his game plan.

gooner88
10-28-2005, 08:28 PM
Gonzalez is definitely up there, which is unusual cause he's such a power player.
He played so many dropshots tonight, and they all came off beautifully.

Galaxystorm
10-28-2005, 08:35 PM
He does not even like it, according to king fed dropshot is like cheating.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=2581089&postcount=11

disturb3d
10-28-2005, 09:19 PM
I've never seen an Agassi dropshot that hasn't resulted in a winner. 100% success rate.

Nalbandian's dropshots are top notch aswell.

mandoura
10-28-2005, 09:26 PM
Coria

DhammaTiger
10-28-2005, 09:34 PM
I agree Coria, by far.

zimzim
10-28-2005, 09:40 PM
Richard Gasquet has the the best drop shot of the game presently

Viken01
10-28-2005, 09:49 PM
nalbandian :yeah:

Peoples
10-28-2005, 10:56 PM
I've never seen an Agassi dropshot that hasn't resulted in a winner. 100% success rate.
That's such an exaggeration, probably not even 30% are winners. :rolleyes:

MisterQ
10-28-2005, 10:59 PM
That's such an exaggeration, probably not even 30% are winners. :rolleyes:

It's true, it is definitely an exaggeration! ;) However, lately Andre really has fine-tuned when to use that backhand dropshot near the sideline. He kept doing it during the USO this year at just the right moments.

ReturnWinner
10-28-2005, 11:00 PM
coria other players: gaudio,moya,nalbandian and ferrero

celia
10-28-2005, 11:00 PM
I've never seen an Agassi dropshot that hasn't resulted in a winner. 100% success rate.

Nalbandian's dropshots are top notch aswell.
:lol: you're kidding right? Agassi's dropshots are painful to watch. :haha:

David's dropshots are sweet however.

sampaio
10-28-2005, 11:48 PM
Richard Gasquet has the the best drop shot of the game presently


I agree.

I'd say:

1/Gasquet
2/Coria
3/O.Rochus
4/C.Rochus
5/Santoro
6/Nalbandian
7/Ferrero
8/Stepanek ;)
9/Moya
10/Gaudio

El Legenda
10-28-2005, 11:54 PM
I agree.

I'd say:

1/Gasquet
2/Coria
3/O.Rochus
4/C.Rochus
5/Santoro
6/Nalbandian
7/Ferrero
8/Stepanek ;)
9/Moya
10/Gaudio

you're not bais at all. does gasquet has best serve to. to go along with the best backhand and dropshot, even forehand?

sampaio
10-28-2005, 11:59 PM
you're not bais at all. does gasquet has best serve to. to go along with the best backhand and dropshot, even forehand?

:rolleyes: