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Coria vs. Gonzalez - chapter 2

shotgun
10-26-2005, 01:45 PM
http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=1078240

Gonzalez on Coria after their match in Madrid:

"Coria is the kind of guy that when he plays, everyone in the locker-room is hoping that he loses."

Coria answers:

"That's what he's saying. If everyone really came up and told me that they want me to lose, then it would be something."

:boxing:

Action Jackson
10-26-2005, 01:53 PM
Gonzo does have the height and weight advantage, though Coria has the speed and sneakiness in his favour.

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 01:55 PM
No biggie - just two boys having some "fun"... ;)

Truc
10-26-2005, 02:13 PM
To say the truth, Gonzalez' press conference was just embarrassing, he attacked Coria completely out of the blue, although nothing special happened during the match. Have a look at his post match interview in Madrid.
Coria only answered to the accusations.
I don't know if they are just having some "fun", Coria seemed to be really upset (which is pretty normal, I've rarely read this kind of statements in a post match interview).

star
10-26-2005, 02:19 PM
http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=1078240

Gonzalez on Coria after their match in Madrid:

"Coria is the kind of guy that when he plays, everyone in the locker-room is hoping that he loses."

Coria answers:

"That's what he's saying. If everyone really came up and told me that they want me to lose, then it would be something."

:boxing:

That was a good reply from Coria. :lol:

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 02:19 PM
To say the truth, Gonzalez' press conference was just embarrassing, he attacked Coria completely out of the blue, although nothing special happened during the match. Have a look at his post match interview in Madrid.
Coria only answered to the accusations.
I don't know if they are just having some "fun", Coria seemed to be really upset (which is pretty normal, I've rarely read this kind of statements in a post match interview).

Out of the blue???????

Guille seems to have a way about him that pisses off the other players. Gaston, Luis, Andre, Nico.

Now just add Fernando to that list.

And those are just the ones we know about. ;)

Now I like Guille - but obviously there's some type of problem.

Julio1974
10-26-2005, 02:22 PM
Out of the blue???????

Guille seems to have a way about him that pisses off the other players. Gaston, Luis, Andre, Nico.

Now just add Fernando to that list.

And those are just the ones we know about. ;)

Now I like Guille - but obviously there's some type of problem.

Nico,
Gonzalez also has a tendency to piss off Argentine players (Zabaleta, Gaudio, Coria).

shotgun
10-26-2005, 02:22 PM
I've put "chapter 2" on the title of the thread because they already had a problem in Rome this year.

star
10-26-2005, 02:25 PM
Out of the blue???????

Guille seems to have a way about him that pisses off the other players. Gaston, Luis, Andre, Nico.

Now just add Fernando to that list.

And those are just the ones we know about. ;)

Now I like Guille - but obviously there's some type of problem.

I think maybe the list that should be added to is the list of players, Gonzales has slagged. :lol:

Action Jackson
10-26-2005, 02:27 PM
To say the truth, Gonzalez' press conference was just embarrassing, he attacked Coria completely out of the blue, although nothing special happened during the match. Have a look at his post match interview in Madrid.
Coria only answered to the accusations.
I don't know if they are just having some "fun", Coria seemed to be really upset (which is pretty normal, I've rarely read this kind of statements in a post match interview).

Where is the Madrid press conference? I am on the website and also at ASAP sports and haven't found the transcript, if you know where it is, it would be appreciated if you could paste a link.

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 02:33 PM
Nico,
Gonzalez also has a tendency to piss off Argentine players (Zabaleta, Gaudio, Coria).

He's also good friends with a number of the Argentine players including Acasuso and Calleri. ;)

Truc
10-26-2005, 02:33 PM
Out of the blue???????

Guille seems to have a way about him that pisses off the other players..
I meant this particular match. There was no reason to attack him because of this match.
(Come on, you know that Gonzalez was wrong too in this case, you probably read the interview as a fan of the Chilean players.)

Here is the link, GWH, there is no English translation of the interview, as far as I know:
http://www.masters-series-madrid.com/news/NewsDetail_311.htm

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 02:35 PM
I meant this particular match. There was no reason to attack him because of this match.
(Come on, you know that Gonzalez was wrong too in this case, you probably read the interview as a fan of the Chilean players.)

There is no English translation of the interview, as far as I know:
http://www.masters-series-madrid.com/news/NewsDetail_311.htm

And come on, you know that sometimes things in the past can build up, and it doesn't take much to put you over the edge so you say something. Fernando is human just like everyone else.

Again...I like Guille!!! I have defended him on numerous occasions. But diehard Guille fans have to admit that he's not overly popular with the other players.

Action Jackson
10-26-2005, 02:36 PM
He's also good friends with a number of the Argentine players including Acasuso and Calleri. ;)

Actually Gaudio doesn't have a problem with Gonzalez, more a problem with the Chilean commentator in Viña.

Action Jackson
10-26-2005, 02:38 PM
Here is the link, GWH, there is no English translation of the interview, as far as I know:
http://www.masters-series-madrid.com/news/NewsDetail_311.htm

Thanks for the link and I will get it translated and it's appreciated.

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 02:38 PM
Actually Gaudio doesn't have a problem with Gonzalez, more a problem with the Chilean commentator in Viña.

Thanks.

I didn't think Fernando had a problem with Gaston either but thought maybe someone here knew something that I didn't.

Julio1974
10-26-2005, 02:38 PM
He's also good friends with a number of the Argentine players including Acasuso and Calleri. ;)

Coria is a good friend of some players also. It's stupid to assume that all players hated him. That's just a lie. But I don't want to attack Gonzalez because he is the only player in the ATP that I really despise and I will not be objective. So, this is my last comment on this topic.

Fergie
10-26-2005, 02:39 PM
Nico,
Gonzalez also has a tendency to piss off Argentine players (Zabaleta, Gaudio, Coria).
And Coria doesn't have problems with anyone? :rolleyes:

I hope they play in Basel this week again! :angel:

Truc
10-26-2005, 02:42 PM
But diehard Guille fans have to admit that he's not overly popular with the other players.
I have absolutely no problem to admit that.
But that was more than inappropriate. There are other guys who are not very popular out there. Next time a player beats Soderling or Rusedski or Stepanek, is he going to say in the press conference "I'm particularly glad about this win because everybody hates the guy on the tour"?

Julio1974
10-26-2005, 02:49 PM
And Coria doesn't have problems with anyone? :rolleyes:

I hope they play in Basel this week again! :angel:

I did not say that. I would be stupid to deny that.

shotgun
10-26-2005, 02:51 PM
Do you guys know what happened between them in Rome? After a three-hour match (which Coria won), they shook hands, and then Coria looked down, smiled and shaked his head, as if he was disapproving Gonzalez behaviour during the match. Look, both Gonzalez and Coria use to behave in a disturbingly way during their matches, but what Coria did was extremely disrespectful in my opinion, specially because he won that match, it seemed like he was scoffing at Gonzo. So I don't think that Gonzo said it out of the blue, in fact I think that he was keeping the match in Rome in his mind for a long time and finally enjoyed the fact that he got his revenge in Madrid, specially because before it he had a 0-5 record against Guille.

Baseline
10-26-2005, 02:57 PM
Out of the blue???????

Guille seems to have a way about him that pisses off the other players. Gaston, Luis, Andre, Nico.

Now just add Fernando to that list.

And those are just the ones we know about. ;)

Now I like Guille - but obviously there's some type of problem.

Guille isn't the only Arg player who has had problems with Gonzalez - Gaudio and another Arg did in Vina del Mar this year, and there are the infamous issues during the Olympics, e.g. telling an Arg player to change his passport to a Chilean one. Chilean players seem to have a bias against Argentines in general. Also, I like Massu a lot, but didn't you hear how they had to close the Davis Cup practice session to the public due to Massu's poor behavior? Coria isn't perfect, but everything he does is blown out of proportion while poor behavior of other players gets overlooked. A number of players still have it out for Coria and a lot of that is motivated by past issues, not by things done or said recently. He has improved many things, but doesn't get credit for it by players who aren't willing to give him a chance.

Action Jackson
10-26-2005, 03:00 PM
Do you guys know what happened between them in Rome? After a three-hour match (which Coria won), they shook hands, and then Coria looked down, smiled and shaked his head, as if he was disapproving Gonzalez behaviour during the match. Look, both Gonzalez and Coria use to behave in a disturbingly way during their matches, but what Coria did was extremely disrespectful in my opinion, specially because he won that match, it seemed like he was scoffing at Gonzo. So I don't think that Gonzo said it out of the blue, in fact I think that he was keeping the match in Rome in his mind for a long time and finally enjoyed the fact that he got his revenge in Madrid, specially because before it he had a 0-5 record against Guille.

Nothing unusual in this match, though I do remember the handshake, didn't even look each other in the face. One thing that shouldn't be forgotten is that there is tension between Coria and de la Peña as well and that has gone on for some tme, that would add some more heat.

Gonzo did blow his last 2 matches before Madrid against Coria and that must have had an effect and with these words after that match.


P. Ya tenías ganas de ganar a Coria ¿eh?
Sí, muchas, porque nunca la había ganado, y porque era el jugador menos querido, el típico que cuando juega todo el vestuario está esperando que pierda…


Yes, much so because I have never beaten him and because he was the least liked player, the one that when he plays, the entire locker room is hoping that he loses

Baseline
10-26-2005, 03:02 PM
I've put "chapter 2" on the title of the thread because they already had a problem in Rome this year.

Did you mention the part about how Gonzalez played up one of his winners with the crowd in a very pretentious way?

Action Jackson
10-26-2005, 03:04 PM
Guille isn't the only Arg player who has had problems with Gonzalez - Gaudio and another Arg did in Vina del Mar this year, and there are the infamous issues during the Olympics, e.g. telling an Arg player to change his passport to a Chilean one. Chilean players seem to have a bias against Argentines in general. Also, I like Massu a lot, but didn't you hear how they had to close the Davis Cup practice session to the public due to Massu's poor behavior? Coria isn't perfect, but everything he does is blown out of proportion while poor behavior of other players gets overlooked. A number of players still have it out for Coria and a lot of that is motivated by past issues, not by things done or said recently. He has improved many things, but doesn't get credit for it by players who aren't willing to give him a chance.

There isn't a problem with Gaudio and Gonzalez. It was with this particular Chilean commentator who was giving Gaudio crap throughout the whole tournament and when Gaudio won, he wouldn't talk to him and Rios did the interview instead.

It was Zabaleta had that a problem with the crowd in Viña del Mar, where Gonzo was allegedly trying to fire them up to help him win the match. I didn't see it, and Zabaleta made a comment about that, then it was over.

Truc
10-26-2005, 03:07 PM
P. Ya tenías ganas de ganar a Coria ¿eh?
Sí, muchas, porque nunca la había ganado, y porque era el jugador menos querido, el típico que cuando juega todo el vestuario está esperando que pierda…

Yes, much so because I have never beaten him and because he was the least liked player, the one that when he plays, the entire locker room is hoping that he loses
Thanks for the translation. And he repeats it by answering the next question ("él es la persona que todos queremos ver perder").
You can't blame Coria for feeling a little bit offended, honestly.

Action Jackson
10-26-2005, 03:09 PM
Thanks for the translation. And he repeats it by answering the next question ("él es la persona que todos queremos ver perder").
You can't blame Coria for feeling a little bit offended, honestly.

I didn't come up with the translation, but it's accurate and it's something he said and felt at the time, doesn't mean anyone has to agree with it.

shotgun
10-26-2005, 03:10 PM
Did you mention the part about how Gonzalez played up one of his winners with the crowd in a very pretentious way?

Like I said, both show disturbing on-court manners.

star
10-26-2005, 03:12 PM
Thanks for the translation. And he repeats it by answering the next question ("él es la persona que todos queremos ver perder").
You can't blame Coria for feeling a little bit offended, honestly.

You gotta consider the source. ;)

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 03:13 PM
Guille isn't the only Arg player who has had problems with Gonzalez - Gaudio and another Arg did in Vina del Mar this year, and there are the infamous issues during the Olympics, e.g. telling an Arg player to change his passport to a Chilean one. Chilean players seem to have a bias against Argentines in general. Also, I like Massu a lot, but didn't you hear how they had to close the Davis Cup practice session to the public due to Massu's poor behavior? Coria isn't perfect, but everything he does is blown out of proportion while poor behavior of other players gets overlooked. A number of players still have it out for Coria and a lot of that is motivated by past issues, not by things done or said recently. He has improved many things, but doesn't get credit for it by players who aren't willing to give him a chance.

GWH has already corrected you on the Fernando-Gaston thing.

And that is totally untrue about the Chilean and Argentine players. Again, Fernando is very close to many of them. As for Nico, he's friends with most of them - JI, Z, Gaston, etc. if you lived in Latin America, you would get Tennis Pro and see how they are all close friends. (I have never seen it because I live in NY but I've heard numerous accounts of the show - and am jealous... ;) )

About the DC practice - Nico wasn't behaving poorly - he was yelling as he usually does during practice (and Fernando yells in practice too - I know because I've watched so many of their practices that I've lost count), and the fans started behaving poorly - started heckling him. He was trying to concentrate. If fans can't behave right, they shouldn't be allowed to see practice.

I don't mind debating with people but know the issues before you comment.

But you are somewhat right about Coria's behavior getting blown out of proportion - actually much like this discussion.

Just a little trash talk. Very common in pro sports. No need to make it more than it is.

And I think it was payback for Fernando for Guille for Rome. And then also Miami in 2004 - something happened with the handshake there - just can't remember the details...getting old... ;)

Action Jackson
10-26-2005, 03:15 PM
For the clown who doesn't think the translation was legit, that is you star, please go get it translated yourself, if you think it was faulty. Truc gave the link and one of my friends a fluent Spanish speaker, translated it and it was posted here.

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 03:16 PM
And btw - not saying Fernando is perfect - no one is. But to act as if he's the one that always behaves poorly is loco.

Action Jackson
10-26-2005, 03:17 PM
And btw - not saying Fernando is perfect - no one is. But to act as if he's the one that always behaves poorly is loco.

Who is saying he is perfect, there can't be people that believe that perfection exists.

shotgun
10-26-2005, 03:21 PM
It was Zabaleta had that a problem with the crowd in Viña del Mar, where Gonzo was allegedly trying to fire them up to help him win the match. I didn't see it, and Zabaleta made a comment about that, then it was over.

The chilean crowd is disrespectful (as the brazilian is :o ) whether Gonzo does his tricks or not. I remember that when Saretta played against him in last year's semifinal, Flavio had badly entered the court, the crowd started to hiss him. Guga suffered a lot in the final, too.

Action Jackson
10-26-2005, 03:23 PM
The chilean crowd is disrespectful (as the brazilian is :o ) whether Gonzo does his tricks or not. I remember that when Saretta played against him in last year's semifinal, Flavio had badly entered the court, the crowd started to hiss him. Guga suffered a lot in the final, too.

It wouldn't surprise me, especially after what happened to Zabaleta and his father in that Davis Cup tie with the flying chairs. It happens in South America and in Brazil as you said when Calleri played Guga in the final last year I think, they were giving crap to him in a big way.

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 03:24 PM
Who is saying he is perfect, there can't be people that believe that perfection exists.

lol!

Believe it or not GWH, there are some posters here on MTF that think these guys need to be 100% perfect all the time, and if they blink wrong, they are all over them as if it were the end of the world. They put them on a pedestal, and if they fall off momentarily, they go ballistic. ;) Hmmm...why would anyone put a 20 something year old athlete on a pedestal? Boggles the mind.

shotgun
10-26-2005, 03:29 PM
It wouldn't surprise me, especially after what happened to Zabaleta and his father in that Davis Cup tie with the flying chairs. It happens in South America and in Brazil as you said when Calleri played Guga in the final last year I think, they were giving crap to him in a big way.

Yes, but in that match Calleri's behaviour didn't help either. He got irritated by the crowd's behaviour and started to cheer his ponts by shouting in Guga's direction. Then things got way out of control. The awarding ceremony was really embarassing, and Guga even apologized for the crowd's behaviour.

RogiFan88
10-26-2005, 03:31 PM
It wouldn't surprise me, especially after what happened to Zabaleta and his father in that Davis Cup tie with the flying chairs. It happens in South America and in Brazil as you said when Calleri played Guga in the final last year I think, they were giving crap to him in a big way.

What can you say? They're PASSIONATE about their sports in S America, thus the flying chairs, etc. :p

Action Jackson
10-26-2005, 03:33 PM
Yes, but in that match Calleri's behaviour didn't help either. He got irritated by the crowd's behaviour and started to cheer his ponts by shouting in Guga's direction. Then things got way out of control. The awarding ceremony was really embarassing, and Guga even apologized for the crowd's behaviour.

As much as I like Calleri, he can be a very intense guy on court, this plus the combination you mentioned before helped in that case, put him off in a big way, though he couldn't handle the crowd, but yes I heard the ceremony they were jeering and hissing him, no need for that.

Action Jackson
10-26-2005, 03:34 PM
What can you say? They're PASSIONATE about their sports in S America, thus the flying chairs, etc. :p

True, and did get a dodgy translation of what Gonzo said?

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 03:37 PM
What can you say? They're PASSIONATE about their sports in S America, thus the flying chairs, etc. :p

They are.

But why just South America?

I've heard about the stories of football fans in Europe.

And despite my flag, I'm American - what about American football fans or baseball who go wild after big wins and start cars on fires and trash everything they can get their hands on???

star
10-26-2005, 03:40 PM
lol!

They put them on a pedestal, and if they fall off momentarily, they go ballistic. ;) Hmmm...why would anyone put a 20 something year old athlete on a pedestal? Boggles the mind.

:yeah:

But, for some of the posters here a 20 year old is a lot older than they are or very close to the same age.

Sometimes I think the older posters are a bit more forgiving of the young players. Although, I think there's always a player or two that I find just purely aggravating for some reason. :lol:

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 03:49 PM
Sometimes I think the older posters are a bit more forgiving of the young players. Although, I think there's always a player or two that I find just purely aggravating for some reason. :lol:

Lol! Well sometimes. I went to 4 tournaments this summer, and I have to say that middle aged women were the ones that complained the most about player's alleged bad behavior.

So as I always say - repeating myself here - I don't listen to fans when they judge a player "naughty" or "nice".

I wonder what the players would say about the fans if they had a forum of their own to bitch about us.... ;) ;) ;) Because from what I've seen from fans over the years at tournaments and reading these posts on MTF - the fans deserve more criticism than the players... :lol:

star
10-26-2005, 03:58 PM
I think really the players roll their eyes at the judgment fans makes about players -- calling them untalented or bad -- even when the player is in the top echelon of the game.

Also I think the autograph requests etc.

But I hope they recognize that the fans are the reason they get paid. :) :)

star
10-26-2005, 04:01 PM
Oh and speaking of older female fans, I was sitting in front of two women from Croatia who looked to be in their 70's at a Guga match. Guga was stinking up the place -- wasn't even doing his moan/groan thingy -- and these women kept cracking sarcastic one-liners. Just listening to them made the match entertaining. :lol:

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 04:02 PM
But I hope they recognize that the fans are the reason they get paid. :) :)

So true... :yeah:

I think most of them do from what I've seen. In fact, I didn't see any player act badly in all 4 tournaments...most were really very nice to the fans.

And most fans were good too. But some just stepped over that line - I don't know how the players deal with it tournament after tournament.

star
10-26-2005, 04:05 PM
Which tournaments did you go to?

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 04:25 PM
Which tournaments did you go to?

I went to Washington for only 1 day to see Nico. It had been 11 months since I watched him so I was determined to get to DC to see him! There was a rumor that he wasn't going to play, and I was devastated, but he did end up playing.

Then Cincy for 5 days.

3 days at the Pilot Pen.

And I live in NY so I went to the US Open for 10 days.

What a lovely summer... :) I'll never be able to afford to do it again, but it was just great to be able to do it just once. Well, the USO I always do, but the others, probably not.

I just love watching tennis, and to see all my favorites for all those days. And of course, to see Nico for 18 days was just the best in matches and all his practices. Got hundreds of pictures of him and lots of video that I watch all the time...lol! And Fernando too as well as Feli, Fer Verdasco, Rafa. I felt like I died and went to heaven!!! :lol:

And I do like Guille - got some good pictures of him at the US Open but didn't post them on his site because it was right after their match, and thought that his fans wouldn't like it if I came on his site. And now this with Fernando. Maybe in a few months when everything has calmed down...lol!

*Viva Chile*
10-26-2005, 05:10 PM
Nico,
Gonzalez also has a tendency to piss off Argentine players (Zabaleta, Gaudio, Coria).
What's the problem btw Nico-Feña with Gaudio??? :confused: :rolleyes: I always heard that they take well between them.

Also btw Nico and Zabaleta there no problem. The only argue that Zabala could have against Feña is about the missunderstood in Viña, but I hope that they have talked it and solved that problem.

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 05:13 PM
What's the problem btw Nico-Feña with Gaudio??? :confused: :rolleyes: I always heard that they take well between them.

Also btw Nico and Zabaleta there no problem. The only argue that Zabala could have against Feña is about the missunderstood in Viña, but I hope that they have talked it and solved that problem.

We straightened that out - there's no problem with either Nico and Fena with Gaston.

And Nico and Z don't have a problem either.

I hope Z and Fernando worked it out also. I would think so.

*Viva Chile*
10-26-2005, 05:28 PM
Guille isn't the only Arg player who has had problems with Gonzalez - Gaudio and another Arg did in Vina del Mar this year, and there are the infamous issues during the Olympics, e.g. telling an Arg player to change his passport to a Chilean one. Chilean players seem to have a bias against Argentines in general. Also, I like Massu a lot, but didn't you hear how they had to close the Davis Cup practice session to the public due to Massu's poor behavior? Coria isn't perfect, but everything he does is blown out of proportion while poor behavior of other players gets overlooked. A number of players still have it out for Coria and a lot of that is motivated by past issues, not by things done or said recently. He has improved many things, but doesn't get credit for it by players who aren't willing to give him a chance.
Fernando didn't have any problem with Gaston in Viña. The only problem that Gaston had in Chile was a thing that said an stupid chilean commentator that doesn't have my respect

Sparko1030
10-26-2005, 05:36 PM
Do you guys know what happened between them in Rome? After a three-hour match (which Coria won), they shook hands, and then Coria looked down, smiled and shaked his head, as if he was disapproving Gonzalez behaviour during the match. Look, both Gonzalez and Coria use to behave in a disturbingly way during their matches, but what Coria did was extremely disrespectful in my opinion, specially because he won that match, it seemed like he was scoffing at Gonzo. So I don't think that Gonzo said it out of the blue, in fact I think that he was keeping the match in Rome in his mind for a long time and finally enjoyed the fact that he got his revenge in Madrid, specially because before it he had a 0-5 record against Guille.

Thanks for reminding me of that Shotgun. When I first read about Fena's comments I wondered what was going on. I had forgotten what happened in Rome.

+alonso
10-26-2005, 05:52 PM
I already said it! Israel is a stupid :rolleyes: (the commentator who told bs to Gastón)

There's nothing to be worried about.. Feña just said what he thinks and that's all.. He didn't show a bad behaviour at the time he said this to Coria.. I would call it an "opinion"
The match played in Madrid was perfectly fine ;). Coria showed great class in celebrate Feña's great pts. ;)
I want Peace :lol:

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 05:56 PM
I already said it! Israel is a stupid :rolleyes: (the commentator who told bs to Gastón)

There's nothing to be worried about.. Feña just said what he thinks and that's all.. He didn't show a bad behaviour at the time he said this to Coria.. I would call it an "opinion"
The match played in Madrid was perfectly fine ;). Coria showed great class in celebrate Feña's great pts. ;)
I want Peace :lol:

Well put Alonso!!! :worship:

It was like I said in the beginning - two boys just trash talking...no biggie! ;)

Julio1974
10-26-2005, 06:06 PM
Just one more comment about Coria. I don't think that his apparently bad reputation among other players means that he is a bad guy.

For instance, Rios also had a very very bad reputation (esp. among journalist. That'm why I loved Rios!!). . And he was a great guy. Don't believe just what you see on-court.

Sparko1030
10-26-2005, 06:06 PM
I already said it! Israel is a stupid :rolleyes: (the commentator who told bs to Gastón)

There's nothing to be worried about.. Feña just said what he thinks and that's all.. He didn't show a bad behaviour at the time he said this to Coria.. I would call it an "opinion"
The match played in Madrid was perfectly fine ;). Coria showed great class in celebrate Feña's great pts. ;)
I want Peace :lol:


I can't good rep you again yet Alonso but like Nicofan said, Well put!!! :wavey:

prima donna
10-26-2005, 06:11 PM
This all goes back to the U.S Open, when Massu (Gonzalez's living partner/roomate and more than likely boyfriend) faked an injury and Guillermo took part in mocking him. This is why Gonzalez attacked Guillermo out of nowhere, pretty sad if you ask me. I'm very anal about players and even I enjoy Guillermo. Oh well. Jealousy is envy.

Sparko1030
10-26-2005, 06:21 PM
Just one more comment about Coria. I don't think that his apparently bad reputation among other players means that he is a bad guy.

For instance, Rios also had a very very bad reputation (esp. among journalist. That'm why I loved Rios!!). . And he was a great guy. Don't believe just what you see on-court.

That is a good point Julio. Players can be entirely different off court. All I know about Coria is his on court behavior-don't know much about his personal life or private self. A American football player, Randy Moss, has an awful reputation from on field antics but has always quietly done lots of community stuff that never attracts the press. Once someone gets a reputation its seems the press and public never want to see a different side to them. This could be Coria too.

Truc
10-26-2005, 06:21 PM
Feña just said what he thinks and that's all.. He didn't show a bad behaviour at the time he said this to Coria.. I would call it an "opinion"Well, next time it would be great if he could stick to his own opinion and not speak for the whole ATP tour. Just say he's happy to defeat Coria because he personally dislikes him so deeply. :lol:

I know Coria also made very inappropriate comments about Hewitt during the DC – it was slightly different anyway, that was immediately after a match with many incidents, in a very heated atmosphere and Coria talked personally, not for the whole tennis circuit – but above all, he said afterwards publicly he was sorry and I'm glad he did, because I really disliked what he said.
I want peace too, ;) I hope they'll find a better way than this bashing in front of the journalists to settle it all.

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 06:23 PM
Just one more comment about Coria. I don't think that his apparently bad reputation among other players means that he is a bad guy.

For instance, Rios also had a very very bad reputation (esp. among journalist. That'm why I loved Rios!!). . And he was a great guy. Don't believe just what you see on-court.


That's why I still like Guille - the way I figure it is that if the lovely Carla adores him so much there has to be something deep inside there that's good! ;) Plus I like players with an edge...repeating myself again...saints are boring - and annoying as hell. :p

Truc
10-26-2005, 06:28 PM
And I do like Guille - got some good pictures of him at the US Open but didn't post them on his site because it was right after their match, and thought that his fans wouldn't like it if I came on his site. And now this with Fernando. Maybe in a few months when everything has calmed down...lol!Oh no, you're welcome, of course! Especially if you've got pics! :lol:
I know Coria fans don't have the best reputation on this board, but it's like Coria himself, we are not THAT bad.

Sparko1030
10-26-2005, 06:29 PM
This all goes back to the U.S Open, when Massu (Gonzalez's living partner/roomate and more than likely boyfriend) faked an injury and Guillermo took part in mocking him. This is why Gonzalez attacked Guillermo out of nowhere, pretty sad if you ask me. I'm very anal about players and even I enjoy Guillermo. Oh well. Jealousy is envy.

:unsure: Are you implying that Nico and Fena are more that friends here? :haha: Well, from all accounts they are quite hetero. They are long time friends though-seemed to have basically grown up together. Ya know guys can be friends too...

Probably shouldn't have even commented on that post but just can't help myself sometimes! lol!

purple_star
10-26-2005, 06:30 PM
Just one more comment about Coria. I don't think that his apparently bad reputation among other players means that he is a bad guy.


so true... :angel:

Julio1974
10-26-2005, 06:32 PM
That is a good point Julio. Players can be entirely different off court. All I know about Coria is his on court behavior-don't know much about his personal life or private self. A American football player, Randy Moss, has an awful reputation from on field antics but has always quietly done lots of community stuff that never attracts the press. Once someone gets a reputation its seems the press and public never want to see a different side to them. This could be Coria too.

It happened the same in Argentina with a soccer goalkeeper from Paraguay. He loved to play the bad guy in the field. But, at the same time. he was seen in the Children Hospital several times, taking care of them, bringing them gifts, etc (without a tv camera, which is even more remarkable).

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 06:48 PM
Oh no, you're welcome, of course! Especially if you've got pics! :lol:
I know Coria fans don't have the best reputation on this board, but it's like Coria himself, we are not THAT bad.

LOL! I know you're not bad...just probably bad timing right now. ;)

When the season is over, I'll post them. They were from one of Guille's first practices. Unfortunately all his matches were in the bigger stadiums and couldn't get down low enough.

shotgun
10-26-2005, 06:57 PM
I will say something that probably a lot of people here won't like, but to me it doesn't matter how the guy acts in "normal life". Yes, I think that all these guys should destinate some dollars to charity, given the obscene amount of money they make doing what they like for a living (I know they are hardworkers, but this doesn't speak against what I just said). But if they don't, I don't think we even have the right to dislike them, because they do what they want with their own lives, and their well-earned money. We're here to discuss about tennis and everything that surrounds it, so I don't care if the guy is nice off-court, but do if the guy is an asshole on-court. I'll hate him for the asshole tennis player he is, but not for the allegedly asshole person he is, since I don't even know him as a person.

Peoples
10-26-2005, 07:08 PM
Gonzalez is not the only person to have said everyone at the locker room hates Coria. It's being echoed by a lot of outspoken players. Obviously the politically correct ones keep silent about it. There's almost a pattern - every 2 months somebody disses Coria.

It's so tragic cause Coria is such a nice guy, right? :D

star
10-26-2005, 07:45 PM
Right!!

It is tragic. :)

Action Jackson
10-27-2005, 10:30 AM
I already said it! Israel is a stupid :rolleyes: (the commentator who told bs to Gastón)

There's nothing to be worried about.. Feña just said what he thinks and that's all.. He didn't show a bad behaviour at the time he said this to Coria.. I would call it an "opinion"
The match played in Madrid was perfectly fine ;). Coria showed great class in celebrate Feña's great pts. ;)
I want Peace :lol:

Thanks Alonso, that is what I said three times earlier, but selective reading is commonplace around here, then again I allegedly faked the translation of Feña's words as well.

The old saying is that you have the right to free speech as long as I agree with it. It's not like Feña is the only one who has had a problem with Coria.