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Good luck to Paradorn in Basel

DhammaTiger
10-25-2005, 12:59 PM
Ball is playing Christophe Rochus today in Basle, therefore we must all say to him: Chook dii na krup Khun Paradorn ( good luck Mr Paradorn). Hope he will win his first round match and progress deep into the ournament. I hope he ill win the tournament as his chances are quite good considering there is no Nadal or Federer. :worship: :)

chewy
10-25-2005, 02:51 PM
good luck para! i didnt even know he enter this tournie until i saw livescore results just then. n its good news : )

P. Srichaphan def. C.Rochus 6-3 6-2

won d match pretty convincingly too

chewy
10-25-2005, 02:54 PM
oh n like dtiger said, a 'Chook dii na krup Khun Paradorn'...i hope im not actually swearing in thai or something :p

DhammaTiger
10-25-2005, 09:52 PM
Trust me, chewy you are not you are not swearing ;) . Unless a Thai person corrects me I am sure that "Chook dii na Khrup khun Paradorn",means good luck Mr Paradorn. If I am wrong then I should not be in level 1 thai language class :( Actually my spelling of the Thai words are not standard but phonetic.
By the way, CHAI YOO !!! :bowdown: ( Bravo, Hurrah in Thai) good win over the Belgian now I hope he goes onto win this tournament :)

chewy
10-26-2005, 03:45 PM
i was only kidding, i believe u. i've learn a few simple words myself but i dunno d standard or phonetic, does 'jab' means ouch/pain...?
btw where r u from dtiger, i don't recognise ur flag.

DhammaTiger
10-27-2005, 12:16 PM
i was only kidding, i believe u. i've learn a few simple words myself but i dunno d standard or phonetic, does 'jab' means ouch/pain...?
btw where r u from dtiger, i don't recognise ur flag. :topic:
Hello Chewy, Thai spelling is so varied that ometimes it's hard to know what word it is when it's written in latin script. Thai has five tones, and incorrect use of the tone can lead to misunderstndin, plus many sounds sch as b , p, ch and j get confused by how they are written. So, in answer to your question jab,or Jeb does mean "ouch". it's shortened form of " jeb pouy". I hope my explanation didn't confuse you. :unsure:
In answer to your question as to where I am from, actually, I m from Saudi Arabia( that's the flag which you didn't recognise) but live part of the year in Bangkok. :topic:
Anyway , back to our topic, I hope Paradorn ( Ball) will win his match today He is playing Novak, and he has a very bad record aginst him. In fact the played four times before and Paradon lost all four times. I hope his luck changes today. "Chook dii na krup khun paradorn for your match with Novak". :)

DhammaTiger
10-27-2005, 07:20 PM
Fabulous Paradorn won his match with Novak very covincingly,6-3 6-2! CHAI YO!!!! :worship: :worship: :bowdown: :dance:

chewy
10-27-2005, 10:54 PM
thanz dtiger, u explained very well. i also head 'jeb pouy' b4, its fun to pick up a few easy words n use it whn meetin ppl from thailand, always make em laugh hehe.

Saudi Arabia, cool. my favourite asian player was born in saudi arabia although he's actually taiwanese.

:yeah: para's really pickin his game up, although d seasons almost over, but still very good to see. great win!

DhammaTiger
10-27-2005, 11:16 PM
Yes, I noticed you had YT Wang on your list and meant to ask you which part of Saudi he was born in? Also, I like to know more about him, as the ATP website has nothing much on him. I like to support him too, as I have been to Taiwan many times and really like the people there. Would appreciate it if you can give me more info.
Back to Paradorn, hope he wins against Nalby, but that would be difficult as David is very consistent and hard to beat.

chewy
10-28-2005, 07:31 PM
Para lost in straight set to Nalby 6-2 6-2

i thought d scoreline would be closer than this, still a good run by para.

DhammaTiger
10-28-2005, 09:43 PM
me too, I thought it would be closer. The problem with Paradorn,(btw, in Thailand his nickname is Ball) is that either he plays super or he just goes for his shots and misses. Nalby is too consistent and like a wall, so, we can say Ball hit a wall, ( bad pun, I am sorry)Well, good run as you said, Chewy. I wonder if he will play next week in Bercy?

chewy
10-29-2005, 03:03 AM
yeah ive seen the name 'ball' being use by others b4 but do u know how para got this nickname?
i agree, this is his style of game. which brought him to top 10 once but since havnt work as well for him, i think he needs to play smarter. meaning havin a strategy against diff opponents instead of just using power game.
haha d pun is ok. havnt check his schedule, i think he shld play out d rest of d season, he needs more match practice since he hasnt gone as far in a tournie as previous years.

DhammaTiger
10-29-2005, 08:35 PM
In thailand, everyone has a nickname which is used daily in place of the formal name. I dont know how he got it but usually they are given it by their parents. I will ask my friends in Bangkok how he got that name.
By the way, he lost today in the qualys for the Paris masters. It's tragic because he lost to a player he should in all honesty win against. But good luck to him next year.

chewy
10-30-2005, 12:07 AM
oic, thz Ali. also does the word 'ball' hav any meaning, is it an actual word in thai?
hehe ur level 1 thai class coming in handy, i want to enroll myself to some lang course too, maybe nxt yr.

yep i saw d result was LISNARD, Jean-Rene (FRA) over SRICHAPHAN, Paradorn (THA) 5/7 6/3 6/1, other poster said he was injured n called for trainer twice, might explain d lost.

DhammaTiger
10-30-2005, 09:34 PM
Funny, The Thai papers didn't mention anything about his match or injury. I think the name ball is the english word ball. I guess it was given to him in relation to tennis. I have a friend wiith a nickname Max, his father gave it to him. It's fun to learn languages, it's really a window into different cultures. Poor Paradorn I hope the injury is not serious. He is really having a hard time this year. Also , he got very bad press in thailand early this year. It was all unfortunate indeed. I think all that has affected his plAY. I know a bit about him because I have a friend in the Philippines whose daughter was a junior at the same time as Ball, and they say he is really a fantastic guy. My friend's daughter, Pam saw him at a tournament in Washington D.C. and he remembered her and gave her a big hug. They hadn't seen each other for many years, but he still remembered Pam, even though he was a big time tennis player. I can't see how people can dislike him.

chewy
10-31-2005, 01:25 AM
i think his injury might not b too serious, he managed to finiah d match without retiring. couldve been cramps or pulled muscle...his fitness might not b as gd as b4 becos even though he's been playin week in week out recently he average ard 3 matches per tournie/week don't sound like too overload. he's still young.

from para's on court behavior, n his reactions to wins/lost is how i can tell wat his character's like. i think he's a sincere person, don't know enuff abt him to say otherwise.
wat kinda bad press did he recieved early this yr?

DhammaTiger
10-31-2005, 12:46 PM
I hope he gets well soon. First of all, his attitude and demeanor is typically Thai. I have yet to come across anyone who is rude or badly mannered in Thailand. So he is typically Thai.
About his popularity, I noticed that was dropping about a year ago. Since his phenomenal climb up the ranking in 2002 he had become a demi god, almost. Everyone was just adoring him. I remember when he lost to ljubicic at the Thai open quarter finals in 2003, he cried unconsolably on court. Then he had a very public romance with an actress called Tata Young and his game went down. At that point people and newspapers started criticising him. I remember walking into a sport shop ( the biggest chain in bangkok) and asked for an adidas shirt he was modeling. The sales assistant said to me why did I want to buy a Paradorn shirt, as he wa not good anymoe. I ws stunned to hear that, being a foreigner I only read the English language papers so didn't know there was a subtle shift in public attitude towards him. Then i asked her if she liked him and I was surprised that she said no she didn't as he was arrogant. I was really stunned by that comment. Afterwards I asked my Thai friends and they told me that people didn't like his behaviour in Thailand and his ostentacious living. They said he was paying far too much attention to stars than to winning matches. Later I kept on reading articles in the english language papers criticising his father etc. When the Tsunami struck over the boxing day., he donated 10,000 Bahtfor Tsunami vctims, is about US $250, That unleashed a barrage of criticism because a week before there was a tv show where a Para was showing off a new house and luxurious cars that cost a lot of money. This made the media jump on his case. Later, the family had to donate more money etc etc to make up for the bad publicity.
In my opinion, poor Ball he just is a young guy with perhaps not much control over his own affairs and he doesn't mean any harm. I feel his family should have been more sensitive to what's going on. Also if he kept on winning in the circuit and his ranking didn't fall as dramatically as it did he wouldn't have been criticised as he was. There is also a cultural element in it. Thailand is ver conservative society nd I think they didn't like the ostentation etc. Of course for me who lives partly there and loves thailand and thai people, it's very interesting development. I hope I didn't bore you with my long winded reply. Lastly, I justwant to say, I hope hestarts winning again because he is such a fantastic player.

chewy
11-02-2005, 12:25 AM
Ali, its like u've written a 'short' bio for para.. :p
thz for explaining d bad press issue he's having, it makes alot of sense now why his popularity's declinin. i think i can sum it up by saying fame+fortune=too much attention(bad press from media)=misundersatanding.
i've also heard that ppl in thailand r very friendly. i think its in their culture, much like japanese ppl. but every1 hav diff perspective n they choose how things r precieved so i guess his popularity isnt d num1 priority, his tennis matter d most(to me neway).
i knew thai currency was low, didnt think it was that low. US250 buys 10,000baht :eek: no wonder y ppl call thailand second heaven. anyway abt his dad's donations, i think ppl r always quick to judge others but forget their own actions. i dont think it matter how much money he was reported donatin, either 1 or 1million baht, d amount shlding b d focus, n who knows wat other 'behind d scene' charitable or volunteer work their family might hav been helpin in that didnt get reported by d press...most of all Para shldnt b criticise for his families actions.

n i agree he is a great player, hope his results will refect that soon.