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Roddick working with ... Jim Pierce

alfonsojose
10-25-2005, 04:13 AM
http://www.sportsmediainc.com/tennisweek/index.cfm?func=showarticle&newsid=14144&bannerregion

Nice to see Andy taking 20 seconds between serves. And if he misses a forehand, Jim will break a raquect on his head in the parking area :tape:

tennischick
10-25-2005, 04:21 AM
i seriously do not get this. not to replace Goldfine but just to supplement him. Okaaaaaaay. :confused: what exactly does Pierce have to bring to the table that is Duck-worthy? :shrug:

Chloe le Bopper
10-25-2005, 04:21 AM
:scared:

PaulieM
10-25-2005, 04:24 AM
interesting choice to say the least :shrug:

alfonsojose
10-25-2005, 04:28 AM
i seriously do not get this. not to replace Goldfine but just to supplement him. Okaaaaaaay. :confused: what exactly does Pierce have to bring to the table that is Duck-worthy? :shrug:
Who knows? Mary's game is too risky, bang-bang, all or nothing, but if Andy's backhand can be half agressive as Mary :yeah: Those inside-outside or DTL backhands of Mary when she's on .. :drool: :yeah:

alfonsojose
10-25-2005, 04:29 AM
Mary's brother would be better .. for my eyes :drool:

SwissMister1
10-25-2005, 04:31 AM
Obviously, this means that Andy and Mary are hooking up...no one made the connection?

tennischick
10-25-2005, 04:32 AM
Mary's brother would be better .. for my eyes :drool:
apart from being fuckworthy, at least David is having actual current success with Mary. what has Jim done for anyone lately? :shrug: when last we heard he was banned from even attending tennis matches :eek: :o

alfonsojose
10-25-2005, 04:36 AM
Obviously, this means that Andy and Mary are hooking up...no one made the connection?
:lol: But she bangs here .. Mary banging Roddick :devil: I'm pretty sure she's so bitchy an mean on the bed :aplot: Probably he would call Andy "Daddy" while hitting and torturing him :boxing:

ys
10-25-2005, 04:37 AM
Why not Damir Dokic then? :rolls:

Phunkadelicious
10-25-2005, 04:39 AM
maybe he's looking for his own Yuri Sharapova (I know I know its Sharapov but he says he hates it when people call him Sharapova, so Yuri Sharapova :ras: )

alfonsojose
10-25-2005, 04:40 AM
Why not Damir Dokic then? :rolls:
She's still busy feeding Jelena inside the cage :p

NYCtennisfan
10-25-2005, 04:41 AM
Nice to see Andy taking 20 seconds between serves. And if he misses a forehand, Jim will break a raquect on his head in the parking area

LMAO!

Why not Damir Dokic then?

He will be a consultant.

This means that the next time Roddick wins a match 6-3, 6-1, it will take 2 hours and 8 minutes. If anyone from the press asks Roddick a question that challenges him in any way, Jim will be there to go into the appropriate blackout death rage and beat the hell out of whomever. ALL the bases are covered.

SwissMister1
10-25-2005, 04:41 AM
:lol: But she bangs here .. Mary banging Roddick :devil: I'm pretty sure she's so bitchy an mean on the bed :aplot: Probably he would call Andy "Daddy" while hitting and torturing him :boxing:

A little tough love is what he needs to fix his issues....

Deboogle!.
10-25-2005, 04:46 AM
Nothing's been confirmed yet I don't think.

But the brilliant people on his official site apparently think this sounds like a great idea :haha:

ys
10-25-2005, 04:47 AM
Nothing's been confirmed yet I don't think.

But the brilliant people on his official site apparently think this sounds like a great idea :haha:

He is surely in need of some spanking.. :)

Deboogle!.
10-25-2005, 04:48 AM
He is surely in need of some spanking.. :)Yep :p

But surely there is less psycho who can do it ;)

tennischick
10-25-2005, 04:49 AM
Nothing's been confirmed yet I don't think.

But the brilliant people on his official site apparently think this sounds like a great idea :haha:
alphonso is only reporting what Tennisweek has officially published.

and are you genuinely amused by this or not? :confused:

your use of laughing smilies confuse me when they are accompanied by sarcasm :shrug:

ys
10-25-2005, 04:52 AM
I know.. Hewitt should hire Yuri Sharapov.. Them too screaming synchronous "Come on"s with synchrouous fist pumps would be fascinating.. to watch..

And Federer should get himself a bit of Melanie Molitor.. She'll look great next to Mirka..

Deboogle!.
10-25-2005, 05:15 AM
oh I know alfonso is just copying and pasting, I didn't suggest otherwise :) I'm just saying that TW is the only place that's posted it and it's still in "rumor" status as far as anything official. Some of us had heard rumblings that he may fire Dean at the end of the season, so something like this isn't a surprise.

I'm genuinely amused by it, but at the same time he does need someone to get him into gear, so if he's recognizing that he has issues, then that's a good start I guess. I'd just prefer he find someone less nuts who can help him. I'm also genuinely amused by the fact that the teenyboppers at his website have no clue who Jim Pierce is :p


LOL ys, funny!

Federerhingis
10-25-2005, 05:18 AM
Who knows? Mary's game is too risky, bang-bang, all or nothing, but if Andy's backhand can be half agressive as Mary :yeah: Those inside-outside or DTL backhands of Mary when she's on .. :drool: :yeah:

Indeed his backhand is among many things his main problematic stroke. Too bland and its a pathetic return shot, relative to the rest of the top 20.

ys
10-25-2005, 05:22 AM
Indeed his backhand is among many things his main problematic stroke. Too bland and its a pathetic return shot, relative to the rest of the top 20.

His forehand is not much better.. It works only on hardcourts.. And even there it is not half as effective as say Fed's forehand..

Phunkadelicious
10-25-2005, 05:24 AM
His forehand is not much better.. It works only on hardcourts.. And even there it is not half as effective as say Fed's forehand..

Roddick's forehand works pretty well on grass too...

Scotso
10-25-2005, 05:25 AM
That's kind of insulting, really. Jim Pierce shouldn't be near a tennis court :(

ys
10-25-2005, 05:27 AM
Roddick's forehand works pretty well on grass too...

Nah.. I remember his semifinal against ToJo.. In forehand-to-forehand rallies Roddick was beaten.. His forehand does not combine pace and topspin.. It's either one or another..

nkhera1
10-25-2005, 05:33 AM
Hopefully this will give Roddick the spark he needs to get back to his original form, but honestly I seriously wonder how much Jim Pierce can even do. I mean a lot of it is mental but he could always use some help on the backhand and other parts of his game.

mandoura
10-25-2005, 09:36 AM
I really don't understand this sentence:

"Jim Pierce's role would be as a coach's coach"

euroka1
10-25-2005, 09:38 AM
He'd have to teach Andy how to think on court and that is a tall order. Brute force only works up to a point (number 3).

It would be a difficult, even impossible, position for Goldfine but some people will do anything for money.

Would be a lot better to get Brad back.

Eve83
10-25-2005, 09:53 AM
Nothing's been confirmed yet I don't think.

But the brilliant people on his official site apparently think this sounds like a great idea :haha:

For those people everything Andy does is a great idea...and I can´t help but think that AR.com is more like a advertising-website...

Eve83
10-25-2005, 09:54 AM
I really don't understand this sentence:

"Jim Pierce's role would be as a coach's coach"


Does this mean that Dean Goldfine would have to pay him? lol

To be honest, I´d like the idea to get rid of Dean but Jim Pierce?!? Oh hell...

silverwhite
10-25-2005, 10:00 AM
Obviously, this means that Andy and Mary are hooking up...no one made the connection?

Terence :lol:

jmp
10-25-2005, 11:45 AM
Thanks for posting this, alfonsojose. I'll be interested in seeing how the concept and the specific choice of Jim Pierce work out.

Billy Moonshine
10-25-2005, 12:04 PM
i think its a fab idea, purely for the sheer unpredictability of it, kinda like madonna dating warren Beaty.
Maybe Jimbo will be good for Andy, maybe not. For sure things can only get better for him as a former number 1 and slam champ, i doubt his recent form is pleasing him. I think Jim will be great for him because he will kick his ass and be honest.

Sugar Kane
10-25-2005, 01:17 PM
i think its a fab idea, purely for the sheer unpredictability of it, kinda like madonna dating warren Beaty.
Maybe Jimbo will be good for Andy, maybe not. For sure things can only get better for him as a former number 1 and slam champ, i doubt his recent form is pleasing him. I think Jim will be great for him because he will kick his ass and be honest.
OMG :haha:

Rex
10-25-2005, 01:20 PM
could be considered a decent choice

NicoFan
10-25-2005, 01:38 PM
This means that the next time Roddick wins a match 6-3, 6-1, it will take 2 hours and 8 minutes. If anyone from the press asks Roddick a question that challenges him in any way, Jim will be there to go into the appropriate blackout death rage and beat the hell out of whomever. ALL the bases are covered.


:lol:

When I first saw the title of this thread, I thought this is a joke. But then there it is in Tennis Week. And its not April 1st.

Andy - what are you thinking dude??? Not being mean - this is said with concern because I like you! But what is going on in your head lately? :eek:

Deboogle!.
10-25-2005, 03:30 PM
I really don't understand this sentence:

"Jim Pierce's role would be as a coach's coach"
I interpreted it to mean like, he'd be more of a consultant with Dean than an actual coach to Andy.

star
10-25-2005, 03:35 PM
That's kind of insulting, really. Jim Pierce shouldn't be near a tennis court :(

I couldn't agree more.


Andy ,Andy, Andy :hug: :hug: :hug:

Just when I thought it couldn't get worse. :sad:

fedpras
10-25-2005, 04:20 PM
This means that the next time Roddick wins a match 6-3, 6-1, it will take 2 hours and 8 minutes. If anyone from the press asks Roddick a question that challenges him in any way, Jim will be there to go into the appropriate blackout death rage and beat the hell out of whomever. ALL the bases are covered.

Also, Andy will be constantly playing with his hair before points.

partygirl
10-25-2005, 04:33 PM
I really don't understand this sentence:

"Jim Pierce's role would be as a coach's coach"



THANK YOU!~ :worship: :worship:


He'd have to teach Andy how to think on court and that is a tall order. Brute force only works up to a point (number 3).


IT Would be a lot better to get Brad back.

to a point i do kinda agree with this...brad did give andy a plan of attack, several- if he needed it.

when andy has trouble on the court you can litterally see him stop thinking...and then fixating- and fixating screaming then losing.
and i hate it. :mad:

amierin
10-25-2005, 04:56 PM
He'd have to teach Andy how to think on court and that is a tall order. Brute force only works up to a point (number 3).

It would be a difficult, even impossible, position for Goldfine but some people will do anything for money.

Would be a lot better to get Brad back.

This was posted on another tennis board so I'll say here what I said there. If Jim Pierce goes all psycho on Andy good. Andy needs someone hardcore who will go toe to toe with him and kick him up his butt when he needs it.
Andy's main problem is not thinking on court and not knowing how to construct a point. He knew at one time because Tariq was his coach and taught him. He had early wins on clay. Now he thinks all he needs to do is serve hard and his opponents will roll over. Not sure what Pierce can teach him about strategy and technique but someone has to do something. Brad seemed to plot out his matches for him while Tariq taught him how to play. Instead of two coaches he needs someone who combines these traits.

mangoes
10-25-2005, 05:22 PM
I wish andy the best. I hope this guy can help improve Andy's game.

star
10-25-2005, 06:10 PM
Jim Pierce never taught Mary how to think on the court. I don't see him as a success in that area.

ys
10-25-2005, 07:03 PM
Also, Andy will be constantly playing with his hair before points.

Hopefully, not with pubic one..

Raquel
10-25-2005, 07:14 PM
Some people are maybe saying in a joking way that this would be good for Andy and that what he needs is someone who will be in total control and "go psycho" on Andy, but Jim Pierce being psycho is not a joke. He has been seriously mentally ill in the past and has been sent to state mental institutions several times by the law courts. He was also diagnosed as having paranoid and schizophrenic tendencies. He would not be a stable influence to say the least. And how much of Mary's success can actually be contributed to him is very debateable. He never played tennis until Mary took it up and then Mary spent time at Bollitieris - and looking at her powerful, go for broke game (similar to other Bollitieri students like Seles and Agassi), I would say her game is made up a lot more of Nick's influence than Jim's.

Also, Jim will be 70 in January, so how much travelling he would be prepared to do might also be questionable.

amierin
10-25-2005, 07:50 PM
Some people are maybe saying in a joking way that this would be good for Andy and that what he needs is someone who will be in total control and "go psycho" on Andy, but Jim Pierce being psycho is not a joke. He has been seriously mentally ill in the past and has been sent to state mental institutions several times by the law courts. He was also diagnosed as having paranoid and schizophrenic tendencies. He would not be a stable influence to say the least. And how much of Mary's success can actually be contributed to him is very debateable. He never played tennis until Mary took it up and then Mary spent time at Bollitieris - and looking at her powerful, go for broke game (similar to other Bollitieri students like Seles and Agassi), I would say her game is made up a lot more of Nick's influence than Jim's.

Also, Jim will be 70 in January, so how much travelling he would be prepared to do might also be questionable.

Thanks for this. I seriously hope Andy is not looking for a Federer/Roche type of coaching relationship. Andy is not Federer.

PaulieM
10-25-2005, 07:59 PM
Obviously, this means that Andy and Mary are hooking up...no one made the connection?
maybe tom cruise set them up, he wants everyone to be as in love as he is. :scared:

alfonsojose
10-25-2005, 08:04 PM
Jim Pierce never taught Mary how to think on the court. I don't see him as a success in that area.
If someone is going to hit me if i lose, i'll try to think how to win :o

Peoples
10-25-2005, 08:47 PM
If Andy starts working with Jim Pierce then it doesn't mean Andy's game will change to Mary's :rolleyes:

Jennay
10-25-2005, 09:07 PM
Andy needs someone to kick him in the ass.. but not literally. :scared:

DJ dropshot
10-25-2005, 09:57 PM
From Tennis Week

Refuting a Tennis Week report posted yesterday stating he was considering working with a coach to supplement current coach Dean Goldfine, Roddick dismissed the suggestion saying he knows Jim Pierce about as well as he knows Pierce Brosnan.

"Of all the things i have ever heard about myself, this is the most laughable," Roddick said. "I have never even had a conversation with Mr. Pierce."

Paul Banks
10-26-2005, 12:05 AM
"Of all the things i have ever heard about myself, this is the most laughable," Roddick said. "I have never even had a conversation with Mr. Pierce."

Indeed... Who could seriously believe Roddick would work with someone who's mentally insane and banned from the tour?

Whoever wrote this on tennisweek is a complete idiot.

star
10-26-2005, 12:09 AM
From Tennis Week

Refuting a Tennis Week report posted yesterday stating he was considering working with a coach to supplement current coach Dean Goldfine, Roddick dismissed the suggestion saying he knows Jim Pierce about as well as he knows Pierce Brosnan.

"Of all the things i have ever heard about myself, this is the most laughable," Roddick said. "I have never even had a conversation with Mr. Pierce."

:woohoo: :woohoo:

I am so relieved.

tennischick
10-26-2005, 12:24 AM
Indeed... Who could seriously believe Roddick would work with someone who's mentally insane and banned from the tour?

Whoever wrote this on tennisweek is a complete idiot.
actually that's very unfair. www.sportsmediainc.com is normally a pretty reliable source of tennis information. i would love to know what the backstory on this really is. :shrug:

Pierce or no Pierce, if i were Dean Goldfine i would assume that my days are seriously numbered as the Duck's coach. ;)

euroka1
10-26-2005, 01:02 AM
Pierce or no Pierce, if i were Dean Goldfine i would assume that my days are seriously numbered as the Duck's coach. ;)

Me too, when the reaction is as strong as this. I gather the other things Andy hears about himself are not so laughable.

NicoFan
10-26-2005, 01:09 AM
Oh, thank goodness.

So happy to hear this.

Phew...

Paul Banks
10-26-2005, 01:09 AM
actually that's very unfair. www.sportsmediainc.com is normally a pretty reliable source of tennis information. i would love to know what the backstory on this really is. :shrug:


Maybe some people aren't aware what kind of person Jim Pierce is, but whoever knows who Jim Pierce is automatically know this story is false without any doubt.

tennischick
10-26-2005, 01:18 AM
Maybe some people aren't aware what kind of person Jim Pierce is, but whoever knows who Jim Pierce is automatically know this story is false without any doubt.
maybe you can't read. i wasn't actually commenting on Jim Pierce. i was referring to tennisweek being a normally relaible source of information.

the entire thread is a reaction to the ludicrousness of Jim Pierce being asked to coach anyone. maybe you missed that.

Paul Banks
10-26-2005, 01:25 AM
the entire thread is a reaction to the ludicrousness of Jim Pierce being asked to coach anyone. maybe you missed that.

I didn't even refer to comments made on the thread, so what's your point?

maybe you can't read. i wasn't actually commenting on Jim Pierce. i was referring to tennisweek being a normally relaible source of information.

Yes, and I was commenting that tennisweek wasn't a reliable source of information if they write stuff without asking themselves if it makes sense, regardless of where the information came from.

tennischick
10-26-2005, 01:45 AM
...Yes, and I was commenting that tennisweek wasn't a reliable source of information if they write stuff without asking themselves if it makes sense, regardless of where the information came from.
and i continue to respectfully disagree. tennisweek is a fine media source. there has to be a backstory to explain this piece that they reported. none of us happen to know it. so do let's drop this pointless exchange shall we?

you say they suck. i say they're fine. i get it. i get it. moving on... :wavey:

Deboogle!.
10-26-2005, 02:12 AM
Yes, and I was commenting that tennisweek wasn't a reliable source of information if they write stuff without asking themselves if it makes sense, regardless of where the information came from.I think it's only fair to give TW the benefit of the doubt. As others have said, they are normally quite reputable. Also, their original blurb stated very clearly that it was a rumor. And they themselves are the ones who published what Andy said about it after his match today. I don't thnk they're out to spread rumors and mislead, like some other tennis sites are.

Billy Moonshine
10-26-2005, 02:14 AM
I will be very dissapointed if this isn`t true. I so wanna see Jimbo in andy`s entourage when he lifts that wimby crown, what a sensational story that would be!!!!

alfonsojose
10-26-2005, 04:49 AM
:sad: I wanted to see Andy with a ponytail :tape:

euroka1
10-26-2005, 04:49 AM
Maybe they got it only half right and it's Courier! :)

alfonsojose
10-26-2005, 04:53 AM
And Mary's 2000 RG outfit :hearts: is better than anything Lacoste has shown so far :rolleyes:

partygirl
10-26-2005, 08:50 AM
And Mary's 2000 RG outfit :hearts: is better than anything Lacoste has shown so far :rolleyes:


:mad:boo. hiss :)

mandoura
10-26-2005, 10:38 AM
And Mary's 2000 RG outfit :hearts: is better than anything Lacoste has shown so far :rolleyes:

I read you. :rolleyes: