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There'll never be another year like 2005, says Nadal. 2006 what does it hold?

Action Jackson
10-24-2005, 09:57 AM
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There'll never be another year like 2005, says Nadal


MADRID, (AFP) - Spanish teenager Rafael Nadal, who has picked up the French Open crown as well as four Masters titles in 2005, believes it will be almost impossible to match his astonishing achievements next year.

The 19-year-old, world number two, staged a memorable comeback from two sets to love down to beat Croatia's Ivan Ljubicic 3-6, 2-6, 6-3, 6-4, 7-6 (7/3) and add the Madrid Masters to the Monte-Carlo, Rome and Montreal Masters he has secured this year.

Sunday's win also gave him an 11th title in total this year and took his winning record to an ATP tour-best 79 matches for 2005, two more than world number one Roger Federer, and the most by a teenager since Mats Wilander won 82 matches in 1983.

But Nadal, one of just three men to have beaten Federer this year, insists he has almost set himself too high a standard to follow in 2006.

"I think this year is almost impossible to repeat," he said.

"I'm going to start next year in high spirits, but without pressure because this has been an incredible year, a year to remember, to keep at home like a picture you hang on the wall.

"Next year, I'll try my best, knowing and being conscious that I cannot repeat this."

Galaxystorm
10-24-2005, 10:09 AM
Within some years he will realize that it's possible to repeat a year like this.

Nadal's mind still thinks as he was a good player, but not a great player , i mean , he looks at Moya and Ferrero's careers and he notices that they won at the most 4 or 5 tournaments by year and he understands that he has won 11 titles this year , besides his tennis and his effort, thanks for some lucky aspects as for example , Coria and Ferrero weren't at this best on clay this season etc..

Nadal was born with a gift, the gift of the innnate winners/champions and this talent will help him to win every season at least 6 titles ( having a bad year ) and if he has a good season around 10 titles .

The next season will be tougher for him, because Gasquet will be a very tough rival , maybe Ferrero and Coria will recover their former level on clay , and besides Rafa will play less tournaments on clay, but i see him winning at least 6 titles without no doubt

Action Jackson
10-24-2005, 10:10 AM
This proves Rafa is no dummy, as it was there was no way of anyone thinking he was going to win this many titles this year on different surfaces. It's not an overnight sensation at all, but for some around it seemed like that.

Of course he is not going to win as many titles as he has this year, mainly cause it will be highly unlikely he will play the same events and he is not playing in South America either.

It will be interesting to see if his career will be solely judged by the 2005 season.

*julie*
10-24-2005, 10:23 AM
Surely he won't win as many titles but he still can improve his results in Grand Slams.

TenHound
10-24-2005, 10:25 AM
I take it on 2 levels:

1) He'll never experience another yr. like this - it was his explosive breakout yr.
2) He's trying - in vain- to reduce the pressure on himself.

Action Jackson
10-24-2005, 10:28 AM
I take it on 2 levels:

1) He'll never experience another yr. like this - it was his explosive breakout yr.
2) He's trying - in vain- to reduce the pressure on himself.

He won't have another year like this, it won't happen, sure he wants to get better results at the other 3 Slams, but consistently winning 10+ a year, then people are kidding themselves, if that's happening.

What pressure.

vincayou
10-24-2005, 10:54 AM
Of course, it will be very hard for him to have again such a year (so many tournament victories). The thing is that he must NOT play as many tournaments next year, he must concentrate solely on the big ones (and the tournaments in Spain), a bit like Federer. He will play enough as he will go deep every times.

He can have a better year, because what counts first are GS success and apart from RG, his results in GS have been a bit below what he did outside of them (of course a GS victory is better that 4 GS final IMO).

His future success will depend on the improvement of other players, especially the young ones. Last year, Nadal was in the 50s (but should have been higher if not for his injury during the clay season), thus we can imagine that a Gasquet or a Djokovic can find him out or least stop him in some big tournaments.
His future success will also depend on his future head to head with Fed (and Safin if he decides to play well again).

Exodus
10-24-2005, 11:01 AM
good to know that Nadal knows that he almost impossible can copy this year. Even Federer might not win 11 titles next year. Nadal has ALOT of points to defend next year and he have already reached his peak just like JCF and Coria.

nermo
10-24-2005, 11:26 AM
well, this year has been really terrific.. :) ,that's true.the kid has done a great job this year,and together with some players out of their level, this has helped too..
i think the kid is wise to say so, first ,it's a trial to put down some of the pressure on him .second ,i think with new coming confident faces , and some -returning to level-players, there'll be a tougher competition next year for sure. but even if the next season won't give the same number of titles for Rafa ( which is very much expected), yet it 'll give him better experience on different aspects.
I don't think he 's satisfied,he's got some work for Grass,hard court titles, better GS results and ofcourse some tough players he's not met this year.
I believe the kid has done a great job this year, but i deeply would like to think that he's not given all he's got yet ,for his talent and for titles as well.. ;)

Deivid23
10-24-2005, 11:57 AM
good to know that Nadal knows that he almost impossible can copy this year. Even Federer might not win 11 titles next year. Nadal has ALOT of points to defend next year and he have already reached his peak just like JCF and Coria.

Of course repeating this year is a very tough task (although I have faith on him at having other outstanding years soon enough), but no, he has not reached his peak and he´s still far from that.

Scotso
10-24-2005, 12:47 PM
I think he can do it. Winning a lot of titles is nice, but I think he he were to win all four of the slams, and nothing else, that would still be a better year. ;)

DhammaTiger
10-24-2005, 01:12 PM
Rafa has not peaked yet, better things and performances are coming, I am sure of that. By his ownadmission he has many things to improve on. We saw how much he improved his serve in comparison to what it was earlier. He is concious of wanting to have a good performance on all urfaces. The fact that he commited to Queens is indicative that he plans to make be a force ongrass. I see him perhaps not winning as many tournaments in 2006, s he did this year but he will surely be winning on all surfaces. I saw him practising in Stuttgart last year and have a vieo of part of one practice session, and I am astonished how much work he puts into his practice. I have a feeling this young man is going to surprise us more and more. Vamos Rafa!!!

shotgun
10-24-2005, 01:20 PM
Federer said the same thing last year.

liptea
10-24-2005, 02:08 PM
Well, Rafa is CLEARLY going to be number two ranked Mallorcan again next year.

gebl
10-24-2005, 02:21 PM
Of course repeating this year is a very tough task (although I have faith on him at having other outstanding years soon enough), but no, he has not reached his peak and he´s still far from that.

Agreed. Nadal has a history of downplaying expectations ahead of the fact - for example he said ahead of one of the Latin American clay finals that one day he would be beaten by Montanes, after which he pulverised Montanes (who said he had been given a tennis lesson). At the moment his will to win, which pulled him through against Coria at Rome and against Ljubicic at Madrid, shows no signs of lessening. Vamos Rafa.

Experimentee
10-24-2005, 03:06 PM
Rafa is always trying to downplay his future chances. Its to take the pressure off himself. This year when he was on his hot clay streak he kept saying he wasnt the RG favourite even though he clearly was. He knows that he performs best when there is no expectation, so hes trying to have as little expectation as possible. When young players have a successful year they often feel the pressure of defending the points in the next year, hence the sophomore slump, and obviously he is trying to prevent that.

Deivid23
10-24-2005, 03:11 PM
Rafa is always trying to downplay his future chances. Its to take the pressure off himself. This year when he was on his hot clay streak he kept saying he wasnt the RG favourite even though he clearly was. He knows that he performs best when there is no expectation, so hes trying to have as little expectation as possible. When young players have a successful year they often feel the pressure of defending the points in the next year, hence the sophomore slump, and obviously he is trying to prevent that.

I think it´s just a matter of humbleness as the kid eats pressure for breakfast

star
10-24-2005, 03:19 PM
I think it is difficult to repeat a very good year --esp. one where a player has everything to gain and not so much to lose.

Next year will be difficult because he may feel the pressure to defend points. If he can keep his focus on enjoying the competiton and loving tennis, he should be all right. He hasn't quite reached the point where tennis becomes a business and a bit of a grind for the top players.

landoud
10-24-2005, 03:24 PM
i think ... he will end up next year as # 1

RonE
10-24-2005, 03:43 PM
Well, Rafa is certainly not stupid. As was already said it's a different kettle of fish going into a year with no expectations and no pressure and being able to perform vs starting the next year with all the expectations piled up. Just ask Federer.

I do believe he can handle it and has many many years left in him. The only thing is if he is to have a long career and not burn out too quickly he will need to beef up his strokes, become more aggressive, take more initiatives and try ending the rallies sooner than he does on average. It's all good and well running down every shot but sooner or later that will start to catch up with him.

star
10-24-2005, 04:10 PM
At least you HOPE it will catch up with him. :lol:

NYCtennisfan
10-24-2005, 04:15 PM
Statistically speaking, he's right. Only Federer, Connors and Nastase have won 10+ titles back to back, but I do believe he will do better in the slams.

gebl
10-24-2005, 04:45 PM
I do believe he can handle it and has many many years left in him. The only thing is if he is to have a long career and not burn out too quickly he will need to beef up his strokes, become more aggressive, take more initiatives and try ending the rallies sooner than he does on average. It's all good and well running down every shot but sooner or later that will start to catch up with him.

I agree with first sentence, but question the other two. An interesting recent thread by Sjengster quoted several passages by Borg on his style of play, with very direct parallels with how Rafa plays, (particularly in terms of generally letting the other player make the risky shot and make the mistake). It seems clear that Borg is in some respects a model for Rafa, and is a reason why Rafa feels he can win Wimbledon one day, (just as Borg did - and it is noteworthy that Borg won his first Wimbledon later than his first Roland Garros). Rafa is on track to exceed Borg's record of titles won as a teenager. All right, Borg retired 'early' at 26, but this was a mental choice not a physical necessity.

RonE
10-24-2005, 04:52 PM
At least you HOPE it will catch up with him. :lol:

Only by your own twisted interpretation.

Hewitt who was primarily a counter puncher in the beginning of his career realized that to get better and maximize his chances he would have to put extra zip behind his strokes and he has been doing just that hitting with more power and depth.

If Rafael suffers from chronic tendonitis in his knees that would not do much good to his cause to say the least so instead of wearing himself out he will need to develop bigger weapons including a bigger serve to earn him more cheap points along the way and help him elongate his career. And I believe in due time he will do just that.

RonE
10-24-2005, 05:03 PM
I agree with first sentence, but question the other two. An interesting recent thread by Sjengster quoted several passages by Borg on his style of play, with very direct parallels with how Rafa plays, (particularly in terms of generally letting the other player make the risky shot and make the mistake). It seems clear that Borg is in some respects a model for Rafa, and is a reason why Rafa feels he can win Wimbledon one day, (just as Borg did - and it is noteworthy that Borg won his first Wimbledon later than his first Roland Garros). Rafa is on track to exceed Borg's record of titles won as a teenager. All right, Borg retired 'early' at 26, but this was a mental choice not a physical necessity.

What you did not take into account is that it is impossible to compare Nadal to Borg since we are talking about two completely different eras.

In the 70's and early 80's the racquet technology and physique of the players was nothing like it is today. Hitting winners and ending points was so much more difficult using the old wooden racquets so that hitting the type of shots today's players hit with today's racquets would be practically impossible to do back then.

As a result of superior technology and physical build and regime of today's players the game has become so much more brutal and that is why you are seeing as many injuries as you are today. While Rafa is an incredible counter puncher, he can also play aggressively when forced into tight spots. I maintain that as the years go by he will have to do less counter punching and take more risks playing with more aggression and initiative if he is to sustain his body and continue to have a long and successful career.

Evidence of this is supported by players such as Muster, Chang, and more recently Hewitt and Coria. All of those initially made their formative rise relying on their footspeed and consistency- i.e. get to a lot of balls and keep the rallies going. As their careers progressed both Muster and Chang made adjustments playing more aggressive tennis and trying to reduce the amount of running they did as they had correctly realized that they could not keep going indefinitely and needed to beef up their arsenal in order to stay competitive. If you look at Hewitt and Coria they have also become more aggressive.

Even Rafa himself has already started doing that- if you compare him to this time last year or early this year you will already realize how much more effective his serve has become, how much more substance he is hitting his BH with and how he can go for big shots with the FH more than he used to.

Sjengster
10-24-2005, 05:06 PM
I posted that article on Borg to point out the similarities between him and Nadal, which are numerous on clay, but also some of the differences on faster surfaces because of the change in racquet technology. I really don't think more powerful racquets have changed the game too much on clay - granted, the majority of players probably play more aggressive power tennis than they did in the 70s and 80s, but when you consider the two most dominant claycourt seasons of the last 15 years they've both been achieved by players with fairly old-fashioned games.

PaulieM
10-24-2005, 05:23 PM
Well, Rafa is CLEARLY going to be number two ranked Mallorcan again next year.
carlos will be back to win everything in sight next year, or at least that's what he told me ;)

Merton
10-24-2005, 05:35 PM
It is more important to improve than to win as many titles as possible, and yes, that means that a repetition of 2005 is realistically unlikely. I would be thrilled if Rafa improved his GS results and i don't care about the ranking as long as he improves and becomes more agressive.

Puschkin
10-24-2005, 05:53 PM
"There'll never be another year like 2005", I think Nadal is absolutely right in saying it. Whatever happens in the future, whether he becomes number 1 next year, later or never, 2005 was the year of his breakthrough and his first GS win. As such it will never be repeated, but what he achieved can never be taken away from him. So I think his comment makes a lot of sense, in particular if taken litterally.

RogiFan88
10-24-2005, 06:00 PM
I know that Rafa said he could not repeat in 2006 what he achieved in 2005 [and he hasn't finished yet;)] but he could SURPASS what he did this year.

nobama
10-24-2005, 06:56 PM
I know that Rafa said he could not repeat in 2006 what he achieved in 2005 [and he hasn't finished yet;)] but he could SURPASS what he did this year.And how often has that happened? How many people seriously thought Roger would win 11 tournaments this year?

Merton
10-24-2005, 07:15 PM
And how often has that happened? How many people seriously thought Roger would win 11 tournaments this year?

I don't know about this board since i was not around last year but there were people saying that Roger would win all four GS and finish the year undefeated. Thank God we don't have Rafa trolls to that extent here. (so far, that is :unsure: )

nobama
10-24-2005, 07:20 PM
I don't know about this board since i was not around last year but there were people saying that Roger would win all four GS and finish the year undefeated. Thank God we don't have Rafa trolls to that extent here. (so far, that is :unsure: )I know the media was pinning him to win all four slams but how many Federer fans really thought he could equal last years achievements this year? I know I never thought it would be possible. And I still don't think 2006 will be as great as 2004/2005 were.

ExpectedWinner
10-24-2005, 07:40 PM
Rafa has not peaked yet, better things and performances are coming, I am sure of that.

Whenever he picks, there's no guarantee that his pick will be the size of Mt. Everest relatively to other players picking at that time. Besides, a lot of other things have to fall in place to win 10+ titles. But like others pointed out, improvement on 4th, 3rd, 2nd round exits at GS is a very realistic goal and it'll be a good enough improvement.

Chloe le Bopper
10-24-2005, 09:02 PM
Of course repeating this year is a very tough task (although I have faith on him at having other outstanding years soon enough), but no, he has not reached his peak and he´s still far from that.

Exactly.

I can never stop laughing when people say (hope) that :haha:

Chloe le Bopper
10-24-2005, 09:04 PM
At least you HOPE it will catch up with him. :lol:

:yeah:

Chloe le Bopper
10-24-2005, 09:07 PM
I don't know about this board since i was not around last year but there were people saying that Roger would win all four GS and finish the year undefeated. Thank God we don't have Rafa trolls to that extent here. (so far, that is :unsure: )

:yeah:

adee-gee
10-24-2005, 09:10 PM
And how often has that happened? How many people seriously thought Roger would win 11 tournaments this year?
I thought he'd win more :shrug:

lucashg
10-24-2005, 09:28 PM
It's a good mindset to have, you know. He constantly downplays his chances to get pressure off his shoulders. Not that it actually disappears, but if he gets over his success quickly and faces the future as he's got nothing to lose, he will always be successful as long as he has as much heart and determination as he's showing now.

If he believes what he says, it will do nothing but making him amused and interested about his achievements, improvements and goals. And that's good.


I don't know about this board since i was not around last year but there were people saying that Roger would win all four GS and finish the year undefeated. Thank God we don't have Rafa trolls to that extent here. (so far, that is :unsure: )

You clearly have missed a lot of interesting (!) posts.

ExpectedWinner
10-24-2005, 09:45 PM
I thought he'd win more

Someone famous said " It is better to keep one's mouth closed and appear as a fool, than to open it and remove all the doubt".

Action Jackson
10-25-2005, 05:15 AM
I posted that article on Borg to point out the similarities between him and Nadal, which are numerous on clay, but also some of the differences on faster surfaces because of the change in racquet technology. I really don't think more powerful racquets have changed the game too much on clay - granted, the majority of players probably play more aggressive power tennis than they did in the 70s and 80s, but when you consider the two most dominant claycourt seasons of the last 15 years they've both been achieved by players with fairly old-fashioned games.

There are enough differences as I don't see Nadal winning Wimbledon, but the thing they really have in common is how they handle pressure situations.
It will be difficult for any teenager to win 11 titles again, winning a Slam and 4 TMS titles is impressive.

Originally Posted by Merton
I don't know about this board since i was not around last year but there were people saying that Roger would win all four GS and finish the year undefeated. Thank God we don't have Rafa trolls to that extent here. (so far, that is

You haven't missed much in reality, but it takes all kinds.

NYCtennisfan
10-25-2005, 05:44 AM
Originally Posted by Sjengster
I posted that article on Borg to point out the similarities between him and Nadal, which are numerous on clay, but also some of the differences on faster surfaces because of the change in racquet technology. I really don't think more powerful racquets have changed the game too much on clay - granted, the majority of players probably play more aggressive power tennis than they did in the 70s and 80s, but when you consider the two most dominant claycourt seasons of the last 15 years they've both been achieved by players with fairly old-fashioned games.

New technology has not affected claycourt tennis as much as tennis on the other surfaces but it is still quite a bit different. There are quite a bit more points won via winners or forced errors now compared to way back when.

I also wouldn't call Nadal's game old-fashioned per se. It is unlike the modern power game of most new young talents but it is unlike the play of people in the past. Even on clay Nadal was hitting winners or advantageous shots from well behind the baseline throughout the claycourt season, something you didn't see before.

Action Jackson
10-25-2005, 05:54 AM
New technology has not affected claycourt tennis as much as tennis on the other surfaces but it is still quite a bit different. There are quite a bit more points won via winners or forced errors now compared to way back when.

I also wouldn't call Nadal's game old-fashioned per se. It is unlike the modern power game of most new young talents but it is unlike the play of people in the past. Even on clay Nadal was hitting winners or advantageous shots from well behind the baseline throughout the claycourt season, something you didn't see before.

Actually the combo of improved technology and faster clay has made the game on clay quicker than previously and Nadal well his game has some similarities with Muster.

NYCtennisfan
10-25-2005, 06:14 AM
Actually the combo of improved technology and faster clay has made the game on clay quicker than previously and Nadal well his game has some similarities with Muster.

Indeed.

I think a lot of people still have a mental picture of claycourt tennis as two small guys moonballing the ball back and forth or hitting it back and forth until an error is made. I think people still picture a Berastegui or Javier Sanchez or Orantes or Arrese. Players with a smaller stature. Verdasco, Acasuso, Nadal...the new guns are all big, strong, fast, and athletic hitting winners or forcing errors with shots hit 5 feet from behind the baseline.

NYCtennisfan
10-25-2005, 06:15 AM
and Nadal well his game has some similarities with Muster.

I'd pay some good money to see a Muster of 94-96 go at it with today's or tommorow's Nadal. Can a tennis arean/stadium hold that much intensity?

Action Jackson
10-25-2005, 06:30 AM
Indeed.

I think a lot of people still have a mental picture of claycourt tennis as two small guys moonballing the ball back and forth or hitting it back and forth until an error is made. I think people still picture a Berastegui or Javier Sanchez or Orantes or Arrese. Players with a smaller stature. Verdasco, Acasuso, Nadal...the new guns are all big, strong, fast, and athletic hitting winners or forcing errors with shots hit 5 feet from behind the baseline.

What are you talking about with Berasategui? You're cracking jokes, that guy hit winners from everywhere.

NYCtennisfan
10-25-2005, 06:45 AM
What are you talking about with Berasategui?

I mentioned Alberto because of his size. I'm talking about the image people have of claycourt tennis as being played by players who don't necessarily have to be big and strong. Alberto packed quite a punch from both sides. The new guys who will excel on clay or already have and will undoubtedly excel on other surfaces are big, strong and athletic.

Action Jackson
10-25-2005, 06:50 AM
I mentioned Alberto because of his size. I'm talking about the image people have of claycourt tennis as being played by players who don't necessarily have to be big and strong. Alberto packed quite a punch from both sides. The new guys who will excel on clay or already have and will undoubtedly excel on other surfaces are big, strong and athletic.

It's not necessarily about size, sure it helps, but not an overriding factor.

Puschkin
10-25-2005, 07:51 AM
I'd pay some good money to see a Muster of 94-96 go at it with today's or tommorow's Nadal. Can a tennis arean/stadium hold that much intensity?

Only one, the centre court of RG, a worthy location ;) . Normally, I don't like comparing past and present, but this is a match I would also love to see :wavey: .

nermo
10-25-2005, 10:50 AM
Originally Posted by NYCtennisfan
I'd pay some good money to see a Muster of 94-96 go at it with today's or tommorow's Nadal. Can a tennis arean/stadium hold that much intensity?
Only one, the centre court of RG, a worthy location . Normally, I don't like comparing past and present, but this is a match I would also love to see posted by puschkin

true, it's completely impossible, yet it would have been interesting..and to complete the hypothetical run ; Nadal /Berastegui would be fun too :) Berastegui was amazing with aggressive shots from baseline to everypoint in court..

mandoura
10-25-2005, 02:13 PM
Well, I don't like predictions specially when they are teamed with "of course", "surely", "definitely" ... these terms are pretty decisive for predictions.

I think Rafa had a "dream" year in 2005. Can he repeat it? Why not? Nothing is impossible. He still has room for improvement. He has determination and spirit. He puts his heart in his tennis, and yes it makes a difference. His entourage is very down to earth so is he. He has wisdom beyond his years. In short, he has a lot of elements in his favor to repeat this year. We will just have to wait and see without definitely ruling anything out.

For those who think that's the peak for Nadal, they are in for big surprises because that kid is full those. He invented the word.

nobama
10-25-2005, 02:29 PM
Well, I don't like predictions specially when they are teamed with "of course", "surely", "definitely" ... these terms are pretty decisive for predictions.

I think Rafa had a "dream" year in 2005. Can he repeat it? Why not? Nothing is impossible. He still has room for improvement. He has determination and spirit. He puts his heart in his tennis, and yes it makes a difference. His entourage is very down to earth so is he. He has wisdom beyond his years. In short, he has a lot of elements in his favor to repeat this year. We will just have to wait and see without definitely ruling anything out.

For those who think that's the peak for Nadal, they are in for big surprises because that kid is full those. He invented the word.Suggesting that it will be hard for Nadal to duplicate his 2005 results is not saying he peaked. How many players have won 10+ tournaments (including a GS and 4 TMS) in back to back years?

jenanun
10-25-2005, 02:36 PM
I think Rafa had a "dream" year in 2005. Can he repeat it? Why not? Nothing is impossible. He still has room for improvement. He has determination and spirit. He puts his heart in his tennis, and yes it makes a difference. His entourage is very down to earth so is he. He has wisdom beyond his years. In short, he has a lot of elements in his favor to repeat this year. We will just have to wait and see without definitely ruling anything out.


:yeah:

mandoura
10-25-2005, 03:29 PM
Suggesting that it will be hard for Nadal to duplicate his 2005 results is not saying he peaked.

I know it doesn't. I am not commenting on the "it will be hard" part, because indeed it will, but rather on the "no way" "impossible" " of course not" part.

How many players have won 10+ tournaments (including a GS and 4 TMS) in back to back years?

:scratch: Federer. Of course last year it was only 3 TMS not 4, I think, and 3 GS. :D

nobama
10-25-2005, 07:08 PM
:scratch: Federer. Of course last year it was only 3 TMS not 4, I think, and 3 GS. :DOk, that's only one....point is not many have accomplished this. I mean did Sampras or Agassi ever win 10+ slams 2 years in a row?

mandoura
10-26-2005, 11:52 AM
Ok, that's only one....point is not many have accomplished this. I mean did Sampras or Agassi ever win 10+ slams 2 years in a row?

I really don't know. :)

As I said earlier, I am not denying it is INDEED hard to have another year like 2005 for Nadal. HARD but NOT IMPOSSIBLE. I didn't like the definite dismissal of it happening again. Everything is possible even if did not happen before, hence the phrase, there is always a first time. :)

jtipson
10-26-2005, 12:10 PM
Ok, that's only one....point is not many have accomplished this. I mean did Sampras or Agassi ever win 10+ slams 2 years in a row?

I think Bob Larson did some stats on this a few weeks ago, let me see if I can find them. This certainly didn't happen in the 1990s - nobody was that dominant, not even Sampras.

Action Jackson
11-22-2005, 08:34 AM
Well since Nadal's schedule will be changed as he won't be playing in South America, and if he can match what Muster did in 96 in relation to defending those titles then he has done very well.

He knows he has to get better on faster surfaces, so this will be first step in this process.

nermo
11-22-2005, 08:59 AM
Well since Nadal's schedule will be changed as he won't be playing in South America, and if he can match what Muster did in 96 in relation to defending those titles then he has done very well.
He knows he has to get better on faster surfaces, so this will be first step in this process. posted by GWH

well,i think, taking this kind of decision not to play in South america, means he's gonna play lesser tourneys on clay, more care for faster courts to get ready for more successes on other surfaces.
all in all, 2006 i think, 'll necessarily hold lesser titles for the kid, he's not gonna win these 10 masters titles, (which 'll pump lots of threads in here on how the kid was just an illusive overrated dirtplayer),
but i think, it 'll show improvements for the kid, like more adaptation to play nearer to the baseline,faster vertical movements, and more important, straightening his forehand shots which'll give him the ability to be more aggressive needed for faster courts(and i think later 2005 showed more improvements of these)
titles?uuhm :scratch: RG would still be his major goal ofcourse,as for faster courts,i think he won't be a main favorite for more GS, but improvement, would gurantee going for further rounds than those accomplished in Wimbledon and US 2005.but for masters, i think, he can win more hard court titles, though -i believe-more tougher contenders 'll be there ,as Ljubicic, Berdych, Muller, not to mention other- 2005 injured- players

Action Jackson
11-22-2005, 09:15 AM
Yes, if he doesn't win the same amount of titles or more then he will be overrated, though at the same time I doubt whether he will repeat the same level of success as he had in 2005, and he has a chance of doing well at the AO as the surface will suit him and tested Hewitt in a big way this year, yes RG and the clay season is his main focus, but it won't be to the detriment of overall development on faster surfaces, he won a TMS on hardcourt and on an indoor hardcourt, so that is not bad for someone who is allegedly crap off clay.

nermo
11-22-2005, 09:24 AM
true, as for titles, and going so much competitiveless on clay, i doubt it 'll be repeated in 2006 . may be other players 'll somehow find a way to give him more trouble .but i guess the kid is wise enough to realize this by now.
however i think, becomig a real threat,and further rounds for Wimbledon and US, 'll definetely make a good " preparatory" year for the kid..

DrJules
11-22-2005, 09:27 AM
In terms of grand slams Rafael could easily have a better year in 2006. Apart from the French Open his performance at the grand slams was poor. He would also expect to play at the year end masters. However, he is almost certain to win fewer tournaments as he focuses on the larger events with stronger fields.

nermo
11-22-2005, 09:40 AM
In terms of grand slams Rafael could easily have a better year in 2006. Apart from the French Open his performance at the grand slams was poor. He would also expect to play at the year end masters. However, he is almost certain to win fewer tournaments as he focuses on the larger events with stronger fields. posted by Dr Jules
very much true.and i think 2006 'll be more of caliberation for improvement of his game defects as a whole and on other surfaces, more than winning the same number of titles.it would just take some time and support .deeply wish him Best of Luck inshALLAH, and plzzz,let injuries be away.. :angel: :)