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Why is Ljubo playing Lyon next week?

Jimnik
10-23-2005, 12:49 PM
I just noticed that Ivan is the no.4 seed for next week's tournament.

The guy has played non-stop tennis for 3 weeks including two best of 5-set matches against two Spaniards, in Vienna and Madrid. He's looking more and more tired as each match goes by so why does it make sense to play even more tennis before the Paris Masters?

His 5 best International Series scores are:
Vienna 50pts
Dubai 42
Rotterdam 35
Doha 35
Metz 35
If he won Lyon, it would be worth 45pts so he would improve his score by 10pts. Is it really worth it? Also, in the worst case scenario, what if he reached the final and then lost? He would have played all 5 matches for nothing because the 31pts earned wouldn't be enough to improve his score.

He should take a week off and prepare for AMS Paris so that he can be fully rested and in good shape for the important tournament.

edit: he's due to play Spadea in the 1st round and, possibly, Roddick in the semis.

ClaycourtaZzZz.
10-23-2005, 12:57 PM
He wants to qualify for the TMC:shrug:

Action Jackson
10-23-2005, 12:57 PM
He won't play.

Jimnik
10-23-2005, 12:58 PM
He wants to qualify for the TMC

Yes but 5 matches for 10 measly points?

Risk vs reward, eh?

ClaycourtaZzZz.
10-23-2005, 01:16 PM
10 points are 10 points:shrug: What if he just doesn't qualify because he would need 10 more points?

Billabong
10-23-2005, 02:05 PM
:eek:

Horatio Caine
10-23-2005, 02:27 PM
Nah he aint gonna play. As Ducky said, he will probably cite some back or knee injury ;)

...maybe food poisoning because he is the matador in this match and if he wins then Nadal should be cut up and eaten by everyone :devil:

Actually, it is probably the other way round anyway! ;)

*Ljubica*
10-23-2005, 02:30 PM
Because he's still involved in Madrid he can't withdraw from Lyon - but I would expect him to withdraw sometime tonight or tomorrow morning.

Galaxystorm
10-23-2005, 02:33 PM
Don't forget that according ATP rules , a player can't officially pull out of a tournament played the next week if he's still playing a tournament in that moment.

That is , if Ljubo wants to pull out of Lyon he had to do it after Madrid's final ..

Although i have no idea if he wants to play in Lyon or not.

El Legenda
10-23-2005, 03:41 PM
he will withdraw when Madrid ends

s.m.
10-23-2005, 04:07 PM
he will withdraw when Madrid ends

no he won´t
he confirmed that he is playing lyon
reason is that the surface is the same as in paris bercy, and he wants to adapt to it
that are his words from yesterdays news conference
so ivan is definitely playing lyon

pesto
10-23-2005, 04:39 PM
No, it's madness. He must pull out. He can't play 5 rounds there and then expect to do well in Paris.

Maybe he'll just play a match or two, and use the practise courts to acclimatise, and then retire, citing a minor injury.

TheBoiledEgg
10-23-2005, 07:10 PM
a) cos its indoors, gets 80-90% of his yrs points from these tourns
b) same reason Gaudio plays clays tourns in a row even after making finals in each week.

Merton
10-23-2005, 10:32 PM
There is no sense playing in Lyon, he has already maxed on optional events. Besides, he can still overcome Davydenko if he does well in Paris.

Deboogle!.
10-23-2005, 10:34 PM
No, it's madness. He must pull out. He can't play 5 rounds there and then expect to do well in Paris.

Maybe he'll just play a match or two, and use the practise courts to acclimatise, and then retire, citing a minor injury.He's in Ginepri's quarter. Robby's playing so well he'd have a great shot of taking him out in the QF anyway, esp. if he's tired.

delsa
10-23-2005, 10:39 PM
Because of Babolat. Same for Roddick... (probable :shrug: )

Deboogle!.
10-23-2005, 10:47 PM
Because of Babolat. Same for Roddick... (probable :shrug: )He'd never played before :scratch: I don't think that's why...

delsa
10-23-2005, 10:50 PM
He'd never played before :scratch:
Who? Roddick?
He will even visit the place where the Babolat racqets are made there...

Jimnik
10-23-2005, 10:54 PM
It will be a blessing in disguise for Ivan to lose early. He really needs all the rest he can get. All his energies should be focused on AMS Paris, right now. What if he qualified for Shanghai but then had to withdraw because of an injury? :banghead: How frustrating would that be?

Deboogle!.
10-23-2005, 10:55 PM
Who? Roddick?
He will even visit the place where the Babolat racqets are made there...Yeah he had always played Basel.. then last year he was supposed to play stockholm.

I'm sure they're happy he's playing there but unless he recently signed some new contract with them that included it, I don't see why he'd have to play there. same with the other babolat players - ljubicic, ginepri, etc.

who knows really. lol. Still, it seems ridiculous for Ljubicic to play.

blosson
10-23-2005, 10:56 PM
Who? Roddick?
He will even visit the place where the Babolat racqets are made there...

well if he breaks some racquets, at least the factory is just there. :lol:

Lee
10-24-2005, 12:20 AM
10 points are 10 points:shrug: What if he just doesn't qualify because he would need 10 more points?

He will be seeded (thus a BYE) in Paris and winning one match there, he'll be in R16 which earns him 15 points. Winnng one match for 15 points compare to winning 5 matches for 10 points. :shrug:

El Legenda
10-24-2005, 01:03 AM
Lyon is same surface as Paris, he want to just play one or two full pace matchs to be ready for Paris thats all.

Fergie
10-24-2005, 03:59 AM
His reason sounds reasonable but considering that Ivan must be tired I don't think that he will do more effort to win 1 or 2 matchs :)

Poljud
10-24-2005, 08:16 AM
I dont understand, if he wins 45 points wont he go up 45 points on the race?

silverwhite
10-24-2005, 08:39 AM
Who? Roddick?
He will even visit the place where the Babolat racqets are made there...

Babolat racquets are made in Lyon? :scared:

pesto
10-24-2005, 08:57 AM
Poljud -
Ljubicic has played more than 5 non-mandatory tournaments this year. Only your best 5 results from these are counted. His 5th mark is 35 points. Therefore, if he won Lyon, he would gain 45 points, but lose 35, thus a net gain of 10. The runner-up receives 32 points, which is lower than his 5th mark, and would therefore not improve his ranking at all.