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Blake on Oprah Friday Oct 21

tennyfan
10-21-2005, 12:50 PM
The James Blake story will be highlighted on the Oprah show on Friday, October 21, for anyone interested in tuning in.

Galaxystorm
10-21-2005, 01:04 PM
Hasn't Blake an own forum in MTF ? :rolleyes:

MissMoJo
10-21-2005, 01:08 PM
Hasn't Blake an own forum in MTF ? :rolleyes:
Not every fan visits a player's forum, and there might be posters who aren't fans but may want to see the episode anyway. I don't get your animosity towards this thread

El Legenda
10-21-2005, 01:20 PM
james story? about what?

Galaxystorm
10-21-2005, 01:26 PM
Not every fan visits a player's forum, and there might be posters who aren't fans but may want to see the episode anyway. I don't get your animosity towards this thread

Do you imagine that romanian fans opened a thread every time that Pavel or Hanescu were on TV ?? ;) ...

As far as i understand General messages forum it's to talk mainly about worlwide tennis news etc and not to post TV schedules of concrete countries...( no matter if that TV can be seen in others countries with satellite )

By the way, in my whole life i have never seen Oprah show and maybe i'm wrong but as far as i know there are millions of human beings that haven't seen it either ;)

I'm just being ironic about the fact of in some countries they feel they are the center of the universe..and these persons post their TV schedules as if they had worlwide importance

MissMoJo
10-21-2005, 02:18 PM
Do you imagine that romanian fans opened a thread every time that Pavel or Hanescu were on TV ?? ;) ...

As far as i understand General messages forum it's to talk mainly about worlwide tennis news etc and not to post TV schedules of concrete countries...( no matter if that TV can be seen in others countries with satellite )

By the way, in my whole life i have never seen Oprah show and maybe i'm wrong but as far as i know there are millions of human beings that haven't seen it either ;)

I'm just being ironic about the fact of in some countries they feel they are the center of the universe..and these persons post their TV schedules as if they had worlwide importance
If you did post about pavel, hanescu etc. being on show that's televised worldwide, i doubt anyone would take issue with it and many would probably be appreciative of the information.

As far as GM being a forum for 'worldwide tennis news etc.', if 'mirka is a fat cow' and 'ferrerro is boning sharapova' fits the bill, there's no need to make a big deal out of this thread. Roger being on the Letterman show got a couple of threads in GM, and so what? :shrug: some people were interested in his interview, some weren't. if you don't care, ignore it :) .

and uhmm..'some countries feel they are the center of the universe...'? whether this is true or not, it's really not that deep. Blake is tennis player, this is a tennis forum. Someone made a thread in GM about his appearance on 'Oprah' probably because more posters would know about it than if it were just posted in his forum. Pretty harmless imo

Galaxystorm
10-21-2005, 03:15 PM
As far as GM being a forum for 'worldwide tennis news etc.', if 'mirka is a fat cow' and 'ferrerro is boning sharapova' fits the bill, there's no need to make a big deal out of this thread. Roger being on the Letterman show got a couple of threads in GM, and so what? :shrug: some people were interested in his interview, some weren't. if you don't care, ignore it :) .

First of all, watching that you have done a literal interpretation of the expression " worlwide tennis news ", please forget it, because it seems that creates confusion.

I'm not criticizing the fact of posting a Blake's new in GM at all , because i understand that people has the right to post messages about players , being these players very known or been less. I'm not gonna criticize a tennis new about Blake or Mertinak or Bracciali..

What i'm criticizing is that this new isn't talking about a match, talking about a concrete tennis fact, this new is to talk about Blake is gonna be on an american TV..

The problem is that out of the States this new lacks of great importance since this show isn't easy to watch ( sometimes is in pay per view TV's or you need to have a satellite dish aerial) . I have no channel to watch this show, and the 99% of persons in my country have no idea who is Oprah , and if i ask my neighbour do you know Oprah he would tell me : " Oprah what "??

I know this show can be watched out of the States BUT do you think that more than the 1% of french , german , italian citizens watch this show ??

In fact i doubt that more than a 5% of european MTF users are gonna watch this interview with Blake ..

As i unsderstand this new has a very local importance , i understand is more logical to post this new in Blake's forum, because we aren't talking about a match of James but an american TV program watched mainly by americans..

I hope you have undestood what i mean, the problem isn't Blake, the problem is this new is about the schedule of a TV program.

PaulieM
10-21-2005, 03:19 PM
First of all, watching that you have done a literal interpretation of the expression " worlwide tennis news ", please forget it, because it seems that creates confusion.

I'm not criticizing the fact of posting a Blake's new in GM at all , because i understand that people has the right to post messages about players , being these players very known or been less. I'm not gonna criticize a tennis new about Blake or Mertinak or Bracciali..

What i'm criticizing is that this new isn't talking about a match, talking about a concrete tennis fact, this new is to talk about Blake is gonna be on an american TV..

The problem is that out of the States this new lacks of great importance since this show isn't easy to watch ( sometimes is in pay per view TV's or you need to have a satellite dish aerial) . I have no channel to watch this show, and the 99% of persons in my country have no idea who is Oprah , and if i ask my neighbour do you know Oprah he would tell me : " Oprah what "??

I know this show can be watched out of the States BUT do you think that more than the 1% of french , german , italian citizens watch this show ??

In fact i doubt that more than a 5% of european MTF posters are gonna watch this interview with Blake ..

As i unsderstand this new has a very local importance , i understand is more logical to post this new in Blake's forum, because we aren't talking about a match of James but an american TV program watched mainly by americans..

I hope you have undestood what i mean, the problem isn't Blake, the problem is this new is about the schedule of a TV program.

people have posted stuff about players that are going to be on tv in different countries in the past such as federer on 60 minutes in australia etc( not a lot of posters get australian tv programs either). what's the big deal. it's nice to let people that might not otherwise visit james' forum know in case they want to check it out.

tangerine_dream
10-21-2005, 03:24 PM
I'm just being ironic about the fact of in some countries they feel they are the center of the universe..and these persons post their TV schedules as if they had worlwide importance
Er, I hate to break it to you but the majority of posters on MTF are American.

savesthedizzle
10-21-2005, 03:45 PM
I for one am not a Blake fan so I would never go in his forum, but I might watch Oprah today since I have nothing else to do.

So thank you for informing ME at least. I appreciate it.

AgassiDomination
10-21-2005, 03:47 PM
I dont see the big deal with this being an improper place to post this... Get over it Galxaystorm, thanks for the info tennyfan!

Galaxystorm
10-21-2005, 03:53 PM
I consider that some kind of threads should be posted in players forums but it seems that none shares my opinion :help: :lol:. Although i wonder if you would keep the same opinion if from now on every person posted TV tennis schedule ( matches, shows,interviews etc ) of their own countries in GM :rolleyes:

As i've already said all what i wanted to say , then i finish this thread .

SwissMister1
10-21-2005, 03:54 PM
Thanks for posting - maybe someone can describe what happened on the show afterwards, it is too late for me to tape it now that I am at work.

Andrei could be on Oprah - he seems like a funny guy, I like when he hopped in the Evian bin at the Aussie Open and asked "Who wants ice cream?" Nasty would be an even better guest.

savesthedizzle
10-21-2005, 04:04 PM
I consider that some kind of threads should be posted in players forums but it seems that none shares my opinion :help: :lol:. Although i wonder if you would keep the same opinion if from now on every person posted TV tennis schedule ( matches, shows,interviews etc ) of their own countries in GM :rolleyes:
As i've already said all what i wanted to say , then i finish this thread .


Well then perhaps all those threads about "Is Federer the best ever" or "Is Andy Murray the best youngster" type threads should also only be in player forums. The Ljubicic serving streak thread... he has a forum. Why isn't it there? Sharapova banging Ferrero should be in the Ferrero forum, and so on...

You could go on and on and completely rid GM of about 90% of it's posts.

What is the harm of letting people know that James is on Oprah? There are plenty of Canadians and Americans who are not fans of James Blake and who don't watch Oprah that would not have known otherwise but might be interested to watch. If it doesn't interest YOU just don't open the thread. Is that so hard? :shrug:

AgassiDomination
10-21-2005, 04:07 PM
Well then perhaps all those threads about "Is Federer the best ever" or "Is Andy Murray the best youngster" type threads should also only be in player forums. The Ljubicic serving streak thread... he has a forum. Why isn't it there?

You could go on and on and completely rid GM of about 90% of it's posts.

What is the harm of letting people know that James is on Oprah? There are plenty of Canadians and Americans who are not fans of James Blake and who don't watch Oprah that would not have known otherwise but might be interested to watch. If it doesn't interest YOU just don't open the thread. Is that so hard? :shrug:

:worship: :worship: :worship:

savesthedizzle
10-21-2005, 04:09 PM
Savestheday91, you have quoted incorrectly my message, posting a sentence which isn't mine ( something about Sharapova ) can you correct it ??
Thanks

Its edited.. I meant to type that in my part of the message.

MissMoJo
10-21-2005, 04:10 PM
...What i'm criticizing is that this new isn't talking about a match, talking about a concrete tennis fact, this new is to talk about Blake is gonna be on an american TV..

The problem is that out of the States this new lacks of great importance since this show isn't easy to watch ( sometimes is in pay per view TV's or you need to have a satellite dish aerial) . I have no channel to watch this show, and the 99% of persons in my country have no idea who is Oprah , and if i ask my neighbour do you know Oprah he would tell me : " Oprah what "??

I know this show can be watched out of the States BUT do you think that more than the 1% of french , german , italian citizens watch this show ??

In fact i doubt that more than a 5% of european MTF users are gonna watch this interview with Blake ..

As i unsderstand this new has a very local importance , i understand is more logical to post this new in Blake's forum, because we aren't talking about a match of James but an american TV program watched mainly by americans..

I hope you have undestood what i mean, the problem isn't Blake, the problem is this new is about the schedule of a TV program.
While i can appreciate that some posters won't be able to see it, many can. 'Oprah' is broadcast in about 117 countries (http://www.oprah.com/about/press/about_press_globelist.jhtml), so it's really not of just 'local' interest. In any case, posters have made threads about players being on television shows that most of us don't have coverage of. It's really nothing to get worked up over. It's just a notification of a t.v program, not some hostile american takeover of GM

Galaxystorm
10-21-2005, 04:22 PM
Well then perhaps all those threads about "Is Federer the best ever" or "Is Andy Murray the best youngster" type threads should also only be in player forums. The Ljubicic serving streak thread... he has a forum. Why isn't it there?

You could go on and on and completely rid GM of about 90% of it's posts

The difference is easy , everyone can give his/her opinion about Federer, Murray and there's no limitation , to give an opinion about a player it doesn't matter where you live or where are you from , then i think this kind of threads have a worldwide importance although it's true that sometimes some repetitive threads are :o , on the other hand when you post TV interview schedules this new has a local importance since as far as i know it doesn't exist a worlwide TV in spite of some channels can be watched abroad
and i think they should be in players forums..But it's only my opinion , nothing else..

Fee
10-21-2005, 04:23 PM
Dude, you have done the worst job of being 'finished with this thread' that I have EVER seen on this forum...

Galaxystorm
10-21-2005, 04:28 PM
While i can appreciate that some posters won't be able to see it, many can. 'Oprah' is broadcast in about 117 countries (http://www.oprah.com/about/press/about_press_globelist.jhtml), so it's really not of just 'local' interest. In any case, posters have made threads about players being on television shows that most of us don't have coverage of. It's really nothing to get worked up over. It's just a notification of a t.v program, not some hostile american takeover of GM

I know Oprah is broadcasted abroad , but as i've said out of the States is a minority tv program in terms of TV share since a lot of people in the world hasn't enough english level to follow a conversation in american english ...

In no case i've said that this is a local program, i've only said this program has mainly a local importance, it's different.

Galaxystorm
10-21-2005, 04:31 PM
Dude, you have done the worst job of being 'finished with this thread' that I have EVER seen on this forum...

After finishing some persons have continued to quote me and i think i have the right to answer them , haven't i ?

Deboogle!.
10-21-2005, 04:39 PM
:retard:

Considering there's a new thread in GM every time one of the Croatian players BREATHES I don't think it's out of line to post a thread about a player appearing on TV.

Some people may not even like James and may never go to his forum, but they might want to watch any time a tennis player is on TV - I know I do, even if it's a player whose forum I do not visit.

It's one thread, it's not like there are scores of Blake fans posting threads here about every move he makes. I mean.... pick your battles, dude. James has a pretty nice story, some people might be interested in it, I fail to see why this is even an issue.

savesthedizzle
10-21-2005, 04:39 PM
Well if that's the case, I should be horribly offended that people post the Eurosport tv schedule in GM. I don't get Eurosport. There are millions of people in the United States and Canada who have never seen Eurosport. That thread should not exist. :rolleyes:

Fee
10-21-2005, 04:41 PM
After finishing some persons have continued to quote me and i think i have the right to answer them , haven't i ?


Hey, you can run around the board naked for all I care, but you said you were leaving. All you're doing is repeating yourself anyway. But, its kind of entertaining to read, and every time you post you put the thread back at the top, so more people will know that James is on Oprah.

Now, do I have to go through GM and give you links to all the threads about 'local' TV schedules and such for the past 12 months, to prove that your argument is kind of invalid? I don't have to look very far, there's a thread about Eurosport on the first page...

bad gambler
10-21-2005, 04:42 PM
Dude, you have done the worst job of being 'finished with this thread' that I have EVER seen on this forum...


:haha:

mangoes
10-21-2005, 04:42 PM
The James Blake story will be highlighted on the Oprah show on Friday, October 21, for anyone interested in tuning in.


OH CRY ME A RIVER...................... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: What the hell has James Blake done in the world of tennis to be on Oprah? And I'm sure his fans can answer that question..........but, Don't Bother.........

PaulieM
10-21-2005, 04:46 PM
I fail to see why this is even an issue.
join the club. :shrug: of all the things to have issues with in the world i would think a thread like this wouldn't make it very high on most people's lists.

PaulieM
10-21-2005, 04:49 PM
OH CRY ME A RIVER...................... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: What the hell has James Blake done in the world of tennis to be on Oprah? And I'm sure his fans can answer that question..........but, Don't Bother.........
relax. just how much james has done for tennis is debatable but it doesn't really matter. it's good for the sport to have any tennis player on tv, and from james' perspective he'd be stupid to turn down the publicity.

Deboogle!.
10-21-2005, 04:51 PM
OH CRY ME A RIVER...................... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: What the hell has James Blake done in the world of tennis to be on Oprah? And I'm sure his fans can answer that question..........but, Don't Bother.........You're kidding, right? He fell and hit a netpost, broke a vertebrae, and was almost paralyzed last year. He is lucky to be walking again let alone playing world class tennis. then his father died, then he got shingles which made him lose his vision and balance to the point where he thought he was never going to be able to play again. 6 months ago he was 210 in the world and now, 2 titles and many other good tournaments later he is almost in the top 20. He's also American, smart, eloquent, and has a good personality that makes for an interesting TV interview. It's exactly the kind of thing Oprah would do a segment on. It's not like he's gonna be on for the whole hour, geez.

I suppose you want to whine about him being interviewed by Mike Wallace for 60 minutes and also for Nightline, too?

Fee
10-21-2005, 04:56 PM
oh Deb, you fell for it. ouch.

I'm pretty sure that mangoes knew about James' very bad year, I think she is one of the many who got a bit tired of it during the USO coverage here in the states (and it was overdone at times, even for a fan a James).

mangoes
10-21-2005, 04:59 PM
You're kidding, right? He fell and hit a netpost, broke a vertebrae, and was almost paralyzed last year. He is lucky to be walking again let alone playing world class tennis. then his father died, then he got shingles which made him lose his vision and balance to the point where he thought he was never going to be able to play again. 6 months ago he was 210 in the world and now, 2 titles and many other good tournaments later he is almost in the top 20. He's also American, smart, eloquent, and has a good personality that makes for an interesting TV interview. It's exactly the kind of thing Oprah would do a segment on. It's not like he's gonna be on for the whole hour, geez.

I suppose you want to whine about him being interviewed by Mike Wallace for 60 minutes and also for Nightline, too?


First of all, I did not whine, I stated my thoughts and opinions, so no need to personalize your post and attempt to attack me. I do not like James Blake and I think he is full of a lot of hot air, (or shit). Furthermore, I think he has milked his drama for all it is worth and I am frankly sick and tired of hearing about his woes. Many people have woes in this world. But they don't go around using it as a crutch to get people to like them. Maybe, I would be more receptive to him if I didn't perceive him as using his drama as a marketing tool for himself.............maybe, maybe not, because I didn't care much for him as a tennis player. Nevertheless, Oprah didn't chase James Blake. In the world of marketing, James Blake's agent called Oprah's people and, hell, even I would admit, it's a great story to tell. So, Oprah's people said yes. But, that's still milking your drama for all the money it's worth because more publicity equals more sponsership opportunities. And, in America, you don't get much better than Oprah in the publicity department.

Now, I can respect the fact that you like James Blake and, thus, will be watching his interview, good for you. I hope you enjoy it.

Galaxystorm
10-21-2005, 05:00 PM
Hey, you can run around the board naked for all I care, but you said you were leaving. All you're doing is repeating yourself anyway. But, its kind of entertaining to read, and every time you post you put the thread back at the top, so more people will know that James is on Oprah.

Now, do I have to go through GM and give you links to all the threads about 'local' TV schedules and such for the past 12 months, to prove that your argument is kind of invalid? I don't have to look very far, there's a thread about Eurosport on the first page...

Please do not compare Eurosport with Oprah show , Eurosport is an international channel and Oprah show is an american TV programme also broadcasted abroad, i think you understand the difference.

Watching some answers it seems i have attacked north american pride :confused: :shrug: when in no case i was trying to criticize North America, because if a german fan had posted a message about Haas is gonna be on TV tonight in DSF i had also said that i consider this kind of thread should be in Haas forum..

I apologize if some americans felt offended by my messages :shrug:...

The next time i will try not to criticize something linked to " american " adjective if i don't want to be MTF-lynched. :rolleyes: since it seems MTF are plenty of persons from this country

Deboogle!.
10-21-2005, 05:04 PM
:yawn: and the hate goes on.

I will still never understand the propensity at MTF for people to enter threads about people they don't like.

Threads like these remind me why I left GM for months. I think I shall consider that again.

Fee
10-21-2005, 05:06 PM
It wasn't that you criticzed something 'American' it was that your argument was viewed as invalid by some because previous threads in GM have mentioned regional shows. I would be willing to bet that Eurosport and Oprah reach roughly the same number of households worldwide (but I could be wrong, meh).

Is Eurosport really an international channel, or is it just a European channel? That's just semantics I guess.

mangoes
10-21-2005, 05:09 PM
:yawn: and the hate goes on.

I will still never understand the propensity at MTF for people to enter threads about people they don't like.

Threads like these remind me why I left GM for months. I think I shall consider that again.


I think you need to not take this so personally...........it's just a forum where people share opinions.

MissMoJo
10-21-2005, 05:09 PM
The negativity to this thread is mindboggling to me. Of all the irrelevant topics posted in GM everyday, why is this so deserving of criticism? :confused: Oprah's having James on her show because it's a human interest story, if she wanted to talk to somebody about their 3843938985 titles, trophies and millions made, she'd go find sampras on a golf course somewhere.
And Galaxystorm, the program would be translated in the language of the country it's being broadcast in. God only knows why you're wasting your time posting in a thread you don't care about, about a program you have no interest in and a player i suspect you don't like.

Galaxystorm
10-21-2005, 05:11 PM
Is Eurosport really an international channel, or is it just a European channel? That's just semantics I guess.

Check in the dictionary the meaning of " international "...

According to the Merriam-webster online dictionary :

International : "Of, relating to, or affecting two or more nations ."

Galaxystorm
10-21-2005, 05:17 PM
And Galaxystorm, the program would be translated in the language of the country it's being broadcast in. God only knows why you're wasting your time posting in a thread you don't care about, about a program you have no interest in and a player i suspect you don't like.

Check some threads about Madrid Wild Card where i was defending Blake against Massu fans..

I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST BLAKE AND I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST OPRAH SHOW AND I HAVE NOTHInG AGAINST NORTH AMERICA, RIGHT ????

I've only expressed an opinion.

tangerine_dream
10-21-2005, 06:09 PM
Threads like these remind me why I left GM for months. I think I shall consider that again.
It's not people like you who should be leaving GM.

alfonsojose
10-21-2005, 06:13 PM
:yawn: and the hate goes on.

I will still never understand the propensity at MTF for people to enter threads about people they don't like.

Threads like these remind me why I left GM for months. I think I shall consider that again.
:hug:

alfonsojose
10-21-2005, 06:19 PM
Good for him. I agree his comeback has been amazing.

My question here would be how big he is in the U.S. . I mean, i'm not sure about Oprah's style 'coz i've never seen the show, but from what i've seen it's most of the times famous people, actors and reall big athletes, and, again i'm not sure, i don't see James as something that big in U.S (maybe i'm wrong and his USO run was well known outside tenns fans :shrug: ). Probably that's what other non-U.S. posters are thinking, but i agree some of them were really rude here :sad:

oneandonlyhsn
10-21-2005, 06:27 PM
Furthermore, I think he has milked his drama for all it is worth and I am frankly sick and tired of hearing about his woes. Many people have woes in this world.

I agree with this statement, I like Blake but his ongoing story is really getting http://bestsmileys.com/sleeping/2.gif but I dont see the problem with someone posting it on GM:shrug: I am sure there are a lot of people that want to see it, its a more deserving thread than a "Do you think Rafa is cute" thread .

NicoFan
10-21-2005, 07:02 PM
It's not people like you who should be leaving GM.

Amen! We need all the Debstah's we can get on GM! But don't blame her for not wanting to come here - I try not to come here much because of all the hate threads, and the good threads that are destroyed by the haters on MTF.

And what is the big deal about posting this info on GM. We have threads here about specific matches - hey there are tournament forums that people can do that on.

Chill out. :rolleyes:

Its a h*ll of a lot better than the hate threads that are continuously started here.

I like James but wouldn't probably look in his forum so happy this was posted here. And since James is probably popular internationally as well as in America, its a place people can chat about what he had to say about himself and tennis as a whole.

I'm glad James is on Oprah...tennis needs a kick start in the States and what a huge audience to talk tennis too - maybe some people who otherwise wouldn't might turn on their TV for a tennis match will do so in the coming months.

NicoFan
10-21-2005, 07:09 PM
BTW - James is a very intelligent young man who is a great representative for the sport. Any time tennis can get someone like James to represent them in front of millions and millions of people - should be applauded not dissed.

Besides the fact that he's sexy as h*ll and will get a large number of females (who are the ones basically watching Oprah) to sit up and take notice... ;)

tennyfan
10-21-2005, 07:50 PM
This morning I thought I would post a quick VCR alert for people who might be fans of James Blake. For the record, he's not particularly a favorite of mine, but I thought others might want to tune in. He's not a household name in the US, so for him to be on Oprah is actually quite surprising. But even more surprising for me was to check back into MTF this afternoon and see my post was harshly criticized by "Galaxy" for wasting precious MTF forum space. If you're not interested in the information, then just move on to another thread that interests you. No need to bash someone for trying to be nice. I guess if someone doesn't have something negative or critical to say about a player, then their posts aren't welcome here. MTF never ceases to amaze me with it's negativity. :rolleyes:

Jim Jones
10-21-2005, 08:01 PM
While i can appreciate that some posters won't be able to see it, many can. 'Oprah' is broadcast in about 117 countries (http://www.oprah.com/about/press/about_press_globelist.jhtml), so it's really not of just 'local' interest. In any case, posters have made threads about players being on television shows that most of us don't have coverage of. It's really nothing to get worked up over. It's just a notification of a t.v program, not some hostile american takeover of GM
Oprah is a U.S. show just like the Tonight show & Jerry Springer show are local shows. Households in Europe have satellite and can get these shows but they are still U.S. shows. TV5 shows French shows throughout the world but the shows are still local ones.

I saw the Oprah show one time in the U.S. when I was there as a student. It targets mainly women so can't say that it is my cup of tea. I do like the tonight show with Jay Leno though. :yeah:

However as one person said here, most people on MTF have either lived in the U.S. (like me) or are American so are familiar with these shows.

mangoes
10-21-2005, 08:29 PM
I agree with this statement, I like Blake but his ongoing story is really getting http://bestsmileys.com/sleeping/2.gif but I dont see the problem with someone posting it on GM:shrug: I am sure there are a lot of people that want to see it, its a more deserving thread than a "Do you think Rafa is cute" thread .


I don't have a problem with it being posted either. I would rather read this topic than a "is rafa gay" thread. But, that doesn't mean I'm going to kiss Blake's ass either.

Deboogle!.
10-21-2005, 08:30 PM
Well, thanks guys. But it's just unenjoyable. Coming here is supposed to be a distraction of the BS daily life brings, not add to it. lol.

Mangoes, the point is that if you see the thread is about James Blake on Oprah and you don't like James Blake, you could simply avoid the thread instead of coming in and pissing in it.

Good for him. I agree his comeback has been amazing.

My question here would be how big he is in the U.S. . I mean, i'm not sure about Oprah's style 'coz i've never seen the show, but from what i've seen it's most of the times famous people, actors and reall big athletes, and, again i'm not sure, i don't see James as something that big in U.S (maybe i'm wrong and his USO run was well known outside tenns fans :shrug: ). Probably that's what other non-U.S. posters are thinking, but i agree some of them were really rude here :sad:I think the USO was a big deal. he was on David Letterman (one of the big 2 late night talk shows here) right after he lost the QF. He's been in mainstream publications like People Magazine and stuff, he's been on a lot of other mainstream shows.

I think also, his race has something to do with it. He himself says things like that don't matter, but that he also relishes the opportunity to be seen as a role model for African-American, and especially mixed-race, kids. And that in itself will get him more publicity here and there, and especially from someone like Oprah. And I think that's great. I see James as a good person who is a great player who also does good things and I believe the segment he is in on Oprah today (it hasn't been on here yet) is one regarding survival. So it's appropriate.

I don't know if this answers your question, fonso, but yea I'd say that he's gaining in popularity and just b/c of his personality and charisma, I'd say he's the third-biggest US player here after Andre and Andy in terms of media attention. When I went to the LA tourney this past July (and this was when he was still lower in the rankings, before he won Washington and all that), he had a HUGE fanbase, second only to Andre at the tourney, and even his doubles match filled up the tiny grandstand court. So I'd say he's pretty popular here.

El Legenda
10-21-2005, 08:30 PM
i would get married to the BIG O just for the $

cobalt60
10-21-2005, 08:33 PM
Deb- please don't go :yeah: :hug:

RogiFan88
10-21-2005, 08:36 PM
I agree with this statement, I like Blake but his ongoing story is really getting http://bestsmileys.com/sleeping/2.gif but I dont see the problem with someone posting it on GM:shrug: ...

That's only because at the USO, they went on and on and on... ad nauseum, as they do, w so many AMERICAN stories... ho hum to them.

But one has to admit, James did make an amazing run there, good for him! ;)

PaulieM
10-21-2005, 08:52 PM
Check in the dictionary the meaning of " international "...

According to the Merriam-webster online dictionary :

International : "Of, relating to, or affecting two or more nations ."
just because james is american and oprah is originally an american show doesn't mean james' story and the stories of her other guests aren't relevant to people outside the u.s. ie. an international audience. the distinction you're trying to make is irrelevant with regards to this issue, and i seriously don't get why this is such an issue for you. :confused:

PaulieM
10-21-2005, 08:54 PM
I don't have a problem with it being posted either. I would rather read this topic than a "is rafa gay" thread. But, that doesn't mean I'm going to kiss Blake's ass either.
what about this thread asked you to? :confused:

as for the media attention during the uso it was a bit much but they always do that with stories like that, particularly if it involves an american. james is not responsible for commentators asking him about it, if they ask he answers so what. if all else fails, try the mute button. :shrug:

Kip
10-21-2005, 09:16 PM
The negativity to this thread is mindboggling to me. Of all the irrelevant topics posted in GM everyday, why is this so deserving of criticism? :confused: Oprah's having James on her show because it's a human interest story, if she wanted to talk to somebody about their 3843938985 titles, trophies and millions made, she'd go find sampras on a golf course somewhere.


Exactly! :cool:

People can be
so bitchy and petty.

Kip
10-21-2005, 09:17 PM
I don't have a problem with it being posted either. I would rather read this topic than a "is rafa gay" thread. But, that doesn't mean I'm going to kiss Blake's ass either.

Did he ask you to?
Did anyone else?

Kip
10-21-2005, 09:20 PM
For those who happen to care a bit as
they've entered the thread, here are
some pics from the show.

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/6548/18re.jpg

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/4758/28vj.jpg

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/988/30zs.jpg

Deboogle!.
10-21-2005, 09:22 PM
Thank you, Kip :)

PaulieM
10-21-2005, 09:24 PM
thanks so much for the pics kip. :)

cincy
10-21-2005, 09:33 PM
I was able to tape it because, luckily, someone posted on another thread that James would be on Oprah. I never, ever, watch Oprah, but I will when I get home today. Can't wait to see it.

nobama
10-21-2005, 09:45 PM
I was able to tape it because, luckily, someone posted on another thread that James would be on Oprah. I never, ever, watch Oprah, but I will when I get home today. Can't wait to see it.He wasn't on there very long. Only one segment. Not so impressed with Oprah.

Deboogle!.
10-21-2005, 09:50 PM
The 60 Minutes should be better. Mike Wallace actually followed him around a while - went to Belgium during DC and everything.

mandoura
10-21-2005, 09:57 PM
Thanks Tennyfan for this thread. I get Oprah and if it wasn't for this thread, I would have missed it.

mandoura
10-21-2005, 10:05 PM
Check some threads about Madrid Wild Card where i was defending Blake against Massu fans..

I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST BLAKE AND I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST OPRAH SHOW AND I HAVE NOTHInG AGAINST NORTH AMERICA, RIGHT ????

I've only expressed an opinion.

And opinions are debatable, right? :D

Other posters are expressing their opinions too, in regard to your opinion. ;)

PaulieM
10-21-2005, 10:07 PM
The 60 Minutes should be better. Mike Wallace actually followed him around a while - went to Belgium during DC and everything.
do you know when that's going to be on?

Deboogle!.
10-21-2005, 10:15 PM
do you know when that's going to be on?Nope, hasn't been scheduled yet according to his site. But Chris who runs jamesblaketennis.com will surely post when it's gonna be on as soon as James tells him. :)

NYCtennisfan
10-21-2005, 10:43 PM
Well then perhaps all those threads about "Is Federer the best ever" or "Is Andy Murray the best youngster" type threads should also only be in player forums. The Ljubicic serving streak thread... he has a forum. Why isn't it there? Sharapova banging Ferrero should be in the Ferrero forum, and so on...

You could go on and on and completely rid GM of about 90% of it's posts.

What is the harm of letting people know that James is on Oprah? There are plenty of Canadians and Americans who are not fans of James Blake and who don't watch Oprah that would not have known otherwise but might be interested to watch. If it doesn't interest YOU just don't open the thread. Is that so hard?

:) All that needs to be said.

NYCtennisfan
10-21-2005, 10:46 PM
Originally Posted by Hairouna
The negativity to this thread is mindboggling to me. Of all the irrelevant topics posted in GM everyday, why is this so deserving of criticism? Oprah's having James on her show because it's a human interest story, if she wanted to talk to somebody about their 3843938985 titles, trophies and millions made, she'd go find sampras on a golf course somewhere.

Oh, I guess there is also room for this. :)

Raquel
10-21-2005, 10:46 PM
Oprah looks great :) I am glad her show is going to be shown here again as it hasn't been for a while. We never got the Tom Cruise episode :( :lol:

I am also surprised at the negativity loaded onto the thread starter for daring to inform people he will be on. I don't see what the problem is.

Kip
10-21-2005, 10:50 PM
He wasn't on there very long. Only one segment. Not so impressed with Oprah.

You do realize she had other guests
with just as if not more(especially the
woman with the ex-husband) amazing stories.

I thought it was a nice interview and
James seemed to enjoy himself.

Lee
10-21-2005, 11:42 PM
Thanks for posting this info on GM. I am not a big James fan and never visit his forum. I hardly watch Oprah but I'm interested in catching James on the show. And lucky for me, although I missed it when the show was broadcasted in the big network, my local station will show it at night after 10 o'clock news.

mangoes
10-21-2005, 11:47 PM
[QUOTE=Debstah]
Mangoes, the point is that if you see the thread is about James Blake on Oprah and you don't like James Blake, you could simply avoid the thread instead of coming in and pissing in it.
[QUOTE]


Do not be so forward as to tell me when I am or am not allowed to post in a thread. You disagree with my opinion, that fine. There have been opinions you have shared that I have disagreed with, but guess what, I'm not going to tell you if you don't have something nice to write, don't write it. If anything, you turned this away from being about Blake and started writing about my 'right' to post something negative about James Blake. Until you decided to personalize your post to me, I was just having a little fun. Then you complain about the drama on the MTF. Well, aren't you provoking this drama? I constantly read things on this board that I do not agree with, even negative posts about the players I like, but I have never presumed to tell another poster he or she should not post, whether negative or positive. And on that note, I am done with you. This board is a fun place for me, not a place for me to get into petty squables.

Deboogle!.
10-21-2005, 11:49 PM
:yawn: I'm not the one who goes into the threads of players I don't like for the sole purpose of whining. I feel badly for you that negativity is such a big part of your life.

And on that note, thanks for the bad-rep :) That demonstrates a paragon of maturity indeed.

Bye everyone else, I'll come back to GM in another 4 months or so :)

mangoes
10-22-2005, 12:00 AM
:yawn: I'm not the one who goes into the threads of players I don't like for the sole purpose of whining. I feel badly for you that negativity is such a big part of your life.

And on that note, thanks for the bad-rep :) That demonstrates a paragon of maturity indeed.

Bye everyone else, I'll come back to GM in another 4 months or so :)


So anyone who has something negative to say about a player has too much negativity in his or her life? :rolleyes: Are you serious?..............lololol........ Well, I know I am laughing at you now so............... ;) thanks for replacing my 'negativity' with something else :lol:

yonexforever
10-22-2005, 02:10 AM
THANK YOU FOR THE HEADS UP!!!

PaulieM
10-22-2005, 02:21 AM
Oprah looks great :) I am glad her show is going to be shown here again as it hasn't been for a while. We never got the Tom Cruise episode :( :lol:

ooh boy you missed out, the tom episode was quite interesting :tape:

yomike
10-22-2005, 04:01 AM
Oprah's broadcasted here and I watch it if I have time. I really dont see anything wrong with this thread or any other thread in the GM as long as its related to tennis. I hope you Galaxystorm or any pinhead understand the meaning of general in general messages, you should look it up in the dictionary if you have confusion with its meaning. Or better yet you should stop yakking because your words have absolutely no relevance to this thread. Its a good thing that the Oprah show actually notice some other tennis player besides the Williams and they show a story with social relevance. Who knows someone who watches that show might end up in the tour one day.
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oneandonlyhsn
10-22-2005, 05:38 AM
ooh boy you missed out, the tom episode was quite interesting :tape:

Interesting doesnt even begin to describe it :lol:

ambrosia
10-22-2005, 03:16 PM
Oprah's broadcasted here and I watch it if I have time. I really dont see anything wrong with this thread or any other thread in the GM as long as its related to tennis. I hope you Galaxystorm or any pinhead understand the meaning of general in general messages, you should look it up in the dictionary if you have confusion with its meaning. Or better yet you should stop yakking because your words have absolutely no relevance to this thread.

Could we just stop the negativity? I would think we'd established by now that Galaxystorm has a very different opinion than the rest of us, but no people have to go on and on about it. It's tiring really :rolleyes:


Interesting doesnt even begin to describe it :lol:
He's definitely going through a mid-life crisis, or he's on drugs. It could be both of course. An unusual character he is.

Also, thanks for the info tennyfan. :D

mishar
10-22-2005, 03:40 PM
James is a great guy, a role model and an inspiration...

Debstah, don't worry about mangoes, she's just a disgusting troll who doesn't know much about tennis, I think when people are so consumed with hatred, it's usually just their feelings about themselves, just ignore her and she'll wither away.

NicoFan
10-22-2005, 03:51 PM
I think when people are so consumed with hatred, it's usually just their feelings about themselves.


Absolutely and totally true...I've said it before, and I'll keep saying it ;) ...these obsessive haters on the board say more about their own characters than they do about the players they are dissing.

MissMoJo
10-22-2005, 04:21 PM
For those who happen to care a bit as
they've entered the thread, here are
some pics from the show.

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/6548/18re.jpg

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/4758/28vj.jpg

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/988/30zs.jpg
Thanks :) i thinkthe theme of the show was 'triumph over tragedy'. The interview was ok given the time constraint, but mike wallace will do a better job :p

ServeAlready81
10-22-2005, 04:21 PM
How can anyone hate James Blake???? :lol: I understand if people don't like him, but to hate him for no reason is :shrug:

mangoes
10-22-2005, 04:47 PM
James is a great guy, a role model and an inspiration...

Debstah, don't worry about mangoes, she's just a disgusting troll who doesn't know much about tennis, I think when people are so consumed with hatred, it's usually just their feelings about themselves, just ignore her and she'll wither away.


Fuck you. I say I don't like James Blake because I think he is milking his woes as a publicity stunt, and I become a "disgusting troll" who needs to wither away? I have also never said I am an expert on tennis, in fact, I've learned a lot more about tennis from the posters on this board.

But, I have NEVER called another poster a disgusting troll or wished that they wither away. I also think that it says something about a person's character when he or she strays from discussing a topic and decides to attack the poster instead of the post.

And yes, let me be very clear, I do not appreciate anyone who uses his or her woes as a means to get more attention. That is my position. I was once a very big fan of James Blake, but I could careless who you are, I will never support using one's woes as a marketing device. You may attack my position or opinion, but sinking to a level of needing to attack me on a personal note is uncalled for, especially as I have never read one of your post prior to this. I certainly hope attacking me, at least, gave you a lot of personal satisfaction. I, however, try to never attack any poster's personhood and I never involve myself in a heated exchange between two posters.

Lee
10-22-2005, 05:30 PM
I, however, try to never attack anyone's personhood

So you don't classify what you said about James as "attack anyone's personhood"?

mangoes
10-22-2005, 05:36 PM
So you don't classify what you said about James as "attack anyone's personhood"?


I'll change the "anyone" to "any poster's"............

Fee
10-22-2005, 05:40 PM
I really have to disagree that James is 'milking' his story for publicity. I think what he is actually doing is obliging the requests that he receives for interviews and such. James (like Andy) has almost always done whatever interviews and events are requested of him if it's a way to promote tennis.

I spoke to him in February at the San Jose tournament and when I said it was great to have him back, I was sorry for his loss, glad to see him on TV during the Aus Open, and looked forward to his progress for the rest of the year, he kind of just shuffled his feet, blushed, said thanks, and that he just wanted to get on court and play lots and lots of tennis. Perhaps he views all this other stuff as just part of his job.

ServeAlready81
10-22-2005, 06:43 PM
Fuck you. I say I don't like James Blake because I think he is milking his woes as a publicity stunt, .

So James walks around with a shirt that says "My dad died last year, after I ran into a net post, and almost paralysed my self...love me please"???

James isn't a self promoter, it isn't his fault if people choose to talk about his story.

tangerine_dream
10-22-2005, 07:08 PM
If any non-fans here are interested in seeing James on Oprah here's a video of it (http://uploadhut.com/download/index.php/?file=366305.mov). Just click on the right-hand side on the link that says "Right Click and select 'Save Target As' to save."

guy in sf
10-28-2005, 11:21 PM
I am a fan of James Blake's but why was he on Oprah's show? How many other tennis players have faced tragedy and triumphed over it? I guess none that was black, good looking and american all at the same time. I know this will start shit but it's da truth!

I can't stand Oprah and the fact that she's one her freakin' magazine EVERY month of the year. That's just too much ego for me.