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Karlovic def Hrbaty 7-6 7-6

El Legenda
10-20-2005, 04:13 PM
:yeah: Ivo to the QF

Fergie
10-20-2005, 04:14 PM
Well done Ivo! :yeah:

Scotso
10-20-2005, 04:15 PM
Dominik :(

User id 7816
10-20-2005, 04:22 PM
Its obvious - Karlovic will win Madrid by winning his remaining matches 76 76 or 67 76 76 or 76 67 76.

ClaycourtaZzZz.
10-20-2005, 04:24 PM
:retard::retard:

mangoes
10-20-2005, 04:25 PM
I am probably the only person that feels this way on this board, but I really dislike seeing Karlovic play tennis. I am simply looking at this as his reign of terror with aces continues.

coup-du-cobra
10-20-2005, 04:25 PM
come on ivo! I'm sure you can win the title. give all u have against nalbandian cause he is a good returner...

GoranIvanisevic546346
10-20-2005, 04:26 PM
How bout Ivos ranking now...is he in TOP 70...way to go Retardinho

tangerine_dream
10-20-2005, 04:26 PM
I am probably the only person that feels this way on this board, but I really dislike seeing Karlovic play tennis. I am simply looking at this as his reign of terror with aces continues.
And people think Andy's bad. :lol: Not compared to this guy. :zzz: :zzz:

prima donna
10-20-2005, 04:27 PM
Brilliant play Ivo, keep it up ... the silent killer strikes again. :)

Julio1974
10-20-2005, 04:30 PM
I am probably the only person that feels this way on this board, but I really dislike seeing Karlovic play tennis. I am simply looking at this as his reign of terror with aces continues.

I couldn't agree more with you. This is not tennis. Let's see how he does against Nalbandian, who is one of the best returners.

revolution
10-20-2005, 04:31 PM
lol, this is good stuff.

The people complaining about the way he plays, I don't see anything wrong with it, I mean tennis has to have varied ways of playing, and that's how he gets his results, good luck to him, and the Nalbandian match is one I'm looking forward to seeing.

Sjengster
10-20-2005, 04:36 PM
I can't believe people are whining about Karlovic after the way he played yesterday against Roddick, he displayed so much more than just a big serve - surprisingly solid returns, effective groundies from the back of the court (he was completely overwhelming Roddick at times in the rallies), good use of the slice backhand and he volleyed incredibly well. Part of that is down to his height and reach, but he has to have great technique to pull off some of the volleys he made.

What I find funny and brilliant is that he's through to a TMS QF without breaking serve once - if only he could make history by becoming the first player ever to win a tournament without a single service break.... I suspect it will come to an end tomorrow against Big Dave though, so panicked posters in this thread need not worry. The irony is, Nalbandian's is the weakest serve Karlo has faced in this tournament, giving him a greater chance to break, but then he's also up against the best returner he's played so far.

User id 7816
10-20-2005, 04:39 PM
So what do you guys think, which is more likely - Nalby winning 76 76 or Karlo winning 76 76?

revolution
10-20-2005, 04:43 PM
So what do you guys think, which is more likely - Nalby winning 76 76 or Karlo winning 76 76?

Pretty damn even, but I think David will win 6-4 7-6, or maybe 7-6 6-3.

Sjengster
10-20-2005, 04:44 PM
I say Nalbandian 6 and 4, or 4 and 6. After all, Roddick was able to break the big man yesterday in the first set, and Nalby's surely a better returner than him. To me the interesting patterns of play will be on his serve - Karlovic will be able to get into a lot of rallies, he'll try and find ways to come forward to finish the point, and Nalbandian will have to keep him back with cagy baseline play and solid passing shots. Should be an interesting contest, I want the winner of this to take it all.

Sjengster
10-20-2005, 04:45 PM
How bout Ivos ranking now...is he in TOP 70...way to go Retardinho

Enlightened Balkan attitudes strike again. :yeah:

LaTenista
10-20-2005, 04:45 PM
Nalby will show Ivo the door. That ought to be a match worthy watching. :D

Julio1974
10-20-2005, 04:46 PM
I can't believe people are whining about Karlovic after the way he played yesterday against Roddick, he displayed so much more than just a big serve - surprisingly solid returns, effective groundies from the back of the court (he was completely overwhelming Roddick at times in the rallies), good use of the slice backhand and he volleyed incredibly well. Part of that is down to his height and reach, but he has to have great technique to pull off some of the volleys he made.

What I find funny and brilliant is that he's through to a TMS QF without breaking serve once - if only he could make history by becoming the first player ever to win a tournament without a single service break.... I suspect it will come to an end tomorrow against Big Dave though, so panicked posters in this thread need not worry. The irony is, Nalbandian's is the weakest serve Karlo has faced in this tournament, giving him a greater chance to break, but then he's also up against the best returner he's played so far.

I think it's just a question of taste. I don't have anything against Karlovic. I can't watch his matches, though. I prefer to watch other kind of tennis.

NYCtennisfan
10-20-2005, 04:47 PM
If Nalbandian is ready to play, Ivo will probably go down. If Nalbandian has any lapses in concentration, he too will be a victim of the big Croatian.

peteslamz
10-20-2005, 04:48 PM
wow! Karlovic is beating tough players consecutively! Hope he can keep it up!

NYCtennisfan
10-20-2005, 04:49 PM
I think it's just a question of taste. I don't have anything against Karlovic. I can't watch his matches, though. I prefer to watch other kind of tennis.

Exactly. I don't think anyone is whining.

Ivo's matches can be interesting if he plays a great returner. His match against Agassi was quite interesting at the USO.

mangoes
10-20-2005, 05:06 PM
I can't believe people are whining about Karlovic after the way he played yesterday against Roddick, he displayed so much more than just a big serve - surprisingly solid returns, effective groundies from the back of the court (he was completely overwhelming Roddick at times in the rallies), good use of the slice backhand and he volleyed incredibly well. Part of that is down to his height and reach, but he has to have great technique to pull off some of the volleys he made.

What I find funny and brilliant is that he's through to a TMS QF without breaking serve once - if only he could make history by becoming the first player ever to win a tournament without a single service break.... I suspect it will come to an end tomorrow against Big Dave though, so panicked posters in this thread need not worry. The irony is, Nalbandian's is the weakest serve Karlo has faced in this tournament, giving him a greater chance to break, but then he's also up against the best returner he's played so far.

No, I did not whine, I merely expressed an opinion. Good for you that you enjoyed the match yesterday. I, however, did not enjoy it. I find very little enjoyable in watching Karlovic serve ace after ace with, imo, very little depth left to his game. Hence the reason, when the ace switch is off, he loses and even with this "gift of aces he owns" he is still ranked in his present position. Nevertheless, I did enjoy his match against Andre.

Sjengster
10-20-2005, 05:10 PM
One can both express an opinion and whine at the same time, it all depends on your perspective. My point is that he did much more yesterday than serve ace after ace after ace, but obviously we were watching different matches.

Horatio Caine
10-20-2005, 05:12 PM
I'm in love with Ivo right now! :hearts: :kiss: :hug:

Sjengster
10-20-2005, 05:14 PM
Good for you, just remember to bring that box on your first date for when things get a little intimate.

Experimentee
10-20-2005, 05:18 PM
No, I did not whine, I merely expressed an opinion. Good for you that you enjoyed the match yesterday. I, however, did not enjoy it. I find very little enjoyable in watching Karlovic serve ace after ace with, imo, very little depth left to his game. Hence the reason, when the ace switch is off, he loses and even with this "gift of aces he owns" he is still ranked in his present position. Nevertheless, I did enjoy his match against Andre.

A big serve is a weapon just like any other. If someone's main weapon is their forehand, and it is off, they will lose too. Its not any more or less legitimate if they happen to have serve as their weapon.

Experimentee
10-20-2005, 05:20 PM
What were the TB scores btw?

mangoes
10-20-2005, 05:23 PM
One can both express an opinion and whine at the same time, it all depends on your perspective. My point is that he did much more yesterday than serve ace after ace after ace, but obviously we were watching different matches.


Very true, but whining denotes several instances of visiting this subject, and since this is my first time expressing this opinion, it would be quite a stretch to label my opinion as a whine..................unless of course, you are suggesting that because my opinion differs from yours and you believe your opinion holds more weight than mine, I must be, therefore, whining.

Sjengster
10-20-2005, 05:27 PM
I think we all believe our opinions hold more weight than someone else's, but that's a separate issue. I only lumped your post in as a whine because there was plenty of anti-Karlo posting during the grass season this year when he reached the Queens final, and it seemed to be more of the same thing just because he's doing well again after months of inactivity. The only complaint I have with people's complaints about him is that they talk of him ruining the game with his service dominance, as if he's a consistent presence week in week out at every tournament and sitting atop the world rankings. I know you weren't necessarily making this exact point, but look at it this way - you don't have to put up with him for long. Grass season, indoor season, a few third rounds at a couple of hardcourt events - that's pretty much it for Ivo.

Horatio Caine
10-20-2005, 05:27 PM
Good for you, just remember to bring that box on your first date for when things get a little intimate.

If I propose to him at Nottingham's finest Tennis centre next June...do you think I am rushing it a little? :inlove:

User id 7816
10-20-2005, 05:32 PM
I say Nalbandian 6 and 4, or 4 and 6. After all, Roddick was able to break the big man yesterday in the first set, and Nalby's surely a better returner than him. To me the interesting patterns of play will be on his serve - Karlovic will be able to get into a lot of rallies, he'll try and find ways to come forward to finish the point, and Nalbandian will have to keep him back with cagy baseline play and solid passing shots. Should be an interesting contest, I want the winner of this to take it all.

Nalbandian is a better returner but still he'll be finding it very hard to find the spaces for his returns cause Karlovic is covering the net so well, so I guess the Q is how well David will do with his passings and he'll have to do them every point you feel cause Karlo surely isnt gonna try Nalby from the baseline for more than 3-4 shots. Anyway it will be interesting to see what David can do abt that serve and the way Im not a fan of Karlovic's game though I actually admire the soft hands he shows at some volleys, I almost hope Karlovic wins this tournament just for the sheer wierdness :p

Sjengster
10-20-2005, 05:37 PM
It would be quite funny, the crowd in Madrid would probably hate it and so would everyone here besides the Croats who would then declare him the best thing since sliced bread and insist that he replace Ancic for the DC final. Nalbandian does have the potential to lose tomorrow if he gets to the tiebreaks and then makes those knucklehead errors on his serve that he tends to do at important moments. On the other hand he does hit great returns off wide serves, especially on the deuce side when he usually knocks some spanking forehand returns cross-court and gets the opponent off balance, so Karlo will find it harder to hit his banker serve on crucial points.

Horatio Caine
10-20-2005, 05:42 PM
If Petzschner could defeat him 6/1 in a set last week...Bandy should be able to take him down now...he is one of the best returners in the game, but he will have to serve well.

LMAO at how Tojo didn't want to play him again!

Julio1974
10-20-2005, 05:46 PM
Nalbandian does have the potential to lose tomorrow

Unfortunately, yes.

Jimnik
10-20-2005, 05:47 PM
Karlovic is now 2-0 up against Hrbaty. Does he have a good enough case to be selected for DC?

I♥PsY@Mus!c
10-20-2005, 05:57 PM
Karlovic is now 2-0 up against Hrbaty. Does he have a good enough case to be selected for DC?
I think so becoz Mario is hopeless in DC single. :o
Congrats to Ivo! :yeah:

s.m.
10-20-2005, 07:09 PM
I am probably the only person that feels this way on this board, but I really dislike seeing Karlovic play tennis. I am simply looking at this as his reign of terror with aces continues.

i have the same feeling about roddick
i am sick of his antics, and his tennis is also not so great
he is way overated
infact roddick should go to ivo for volley lessons
also, he should go to him for lessons about behviour on court
so ivo could teach him thing or two
since roddick´s parents and coaches didn´t

s.m.
10-20-2005, 07:11 PM
I couldn't agree more with you. This is not tennis. Let's see how he does against Nalbandian, who is one of the best returners.

and we will see
i can´t wait to see if nalbandian will bitch about serve :haha:

s.m.
10-20-2005, 07:19 PM
yes, nalbi is great returner, he is great basline player, he is great player period
but imo nalbandian is shorthanded tomorrow
he hasn´t played karlovic
you can think how that serve feels, you can watch on tv, but how will nalbandian react to walking laeft and right to lose games to love
or have 0-30 before karlovic hits 4 winners
i think ivo has a great chance tomorrow

Dexter_1986
10-20-2005, 07:31 PM
:banana:

Congratz Ivo and Thanks! :D ;)

Peoples
10-20-2005, 07:35 PM
What a surprising score :eek:

mrki_tua
10-20-2005, 07:52 PM
Exactly. I don't think anyone is whining.

Ivo's matches can be interesting if he plays a great returner. His match against Agassi was quite interesting at the USO.


I agree, Karlović is better then a year ago, much better player, and his beckhand is looking on something after he worked on it. In USO against AA it was verry good match (altho Blake was king of the tour) and Karlović even broke AA without DF and something and AA was hot, I mean HOT... So Karlović is player and don't underestimate him. His only problem is strenght, or should I say stamina, he can't play too long cause when he looses the strenght his % of serve is going down... :wavey:

Peoples
10-20-2005, 07:54 PM
Is there any exact set score betting option? Could make a fortune on Ivo...

mrki_tua
10-20-2005, 07:58 PM
you don't know the motivation and tennis is not that simple... But don't forget about Nalbandian's stupid head and many 3:1 then 3:6 sets and so on... I don't like him (for betting) but as a style he's OK... Still Karlović is VB @ any odds... :)

Julio1974
10-20-2005, 08:03 PM
I agree, Karlović is better then a year ago, much better player, and his beckhand is looking on something after he worked on it. In USO against AA it was verry good match (altho Blake was king of the tour) and Karlović even broke AA without DF and something and AA was hot, I mean HOT... So Karlović is player and don't underestimate him. His only problem is strenght, or should I say stamina, he can't play too long cause when he looses the strenght his % of serve is going down... :wavey:

I agree that he cannot be understimated. He is an extremely dangerous player on fast courts. And if one take into account Nalbandian's head and service, it wouldn't suprise me if Karlovic reaches the SF.

Jimnik
10-20-2005, 09:22 PM
Can't wait for tomorrow's night session and I hope the winner of Karlovic v Nalbandian wins the tournament. The two have never met (H2H is 0-0) so we're all in for a surprise.

njnetswill
10-21-2005, 12:54 AM
Karlovic is going to be the eternal "dangerous floater".

croat123
10-21-2005, 01:17 AM
this year, ivo has beaten:

hewitt
johansson (tojo)
gonzalez
ljubicic
mirnyi
rusedski (x 2)
djokovic
hrbaty
roddick

he's also lost to some pretty pathetic players (i.e. last week)

his matches are all 50-50. he can beat anyone if he gets lucky in a tb or if his opponent has a lapse on serve, but he can also lose to anyone when his serve is off

jole
10-21-2005, 02:09 AM
this year, ivo has beaten:

hewitt
johansson (tojo)
gonzalez
ljubicic
mirnyi
rusedski (x 2)
djokovic
hrbaty
roddick

he's also lost to some pretty pathetic players (i.e. last week)

his matches are all 50-50. he can beat anyone if he gets lucky in a tb or if his opponent has a lapse on serve, but he can also lose to anyone when his serve is off

Pretty much

I mean for a fan of Hrbaty it is a frustrating loss. But the bottom line is shit happens, and Karlovic is not an easy person to play. Something that seems to be happening more often in Karlovic's matches is that he is "getting up" for the big matches. He used to be a much easier match for the top players, but now he really makes you play regardless of who you are on the tour.

Oriental_Rain
10-21-2005, 07:43 AM
Karlovis is soooo frustrating to watch. The guy dont do returns

Sjengster
10-21-2005, 09:57 PM
I say Nalbandian 6 and 4, or 4 and 6. After all, Roddick was able to break the big man yesterday in the first set, and Nalby's surely a better returner than him. To me the interesting patterns of play will be on his serve - Karlovic will be able to get into a lot of rallies, he'll try and find ways to come forward to finish the point, and Nalbandian will have to keep him back with cagy baseline play and solid passing shots. Should be an interesting contest, I want the winner of this to take it all.

I love it when I'm right, even if it's only 1% of the time. :yeah: