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Madrid: worst organization of a TMS

croat123
10-19-2005, 03:33 PM
pretty pathetic. scheduling is terrible, the website is terrible (live scores :scared:). tv coverage is limited to european digital, southeast asia, and parts of south america.

El Legenda
10-19-2005, 03:35 PM
how about the hour and half late match starts, OPP says 4pm, its 5:30now over there and the match before Ljubicic vs Martin is still on :confused:

Deboogle!.
10-19-2005, 03:56 PM
Yeah, it's pretty bad. The scheduling is particularly questionable.

peteslamz
10-19-2005, 04:01 PM
the official website is terrible! :(

Fergie
10-19-2005, 04:05 PM
The sb sucks! :mad:

Galaxystorm
10-19-2005, 04:05 PM
I think you forgot Hamburg, in my opinion the worst website among TMS , and in the second place Madrid

Labamba
10-19-2005, 04:07 PM
Even Hamburg was better... :lol:

alfonsojose
10-19-2005, 04:07 PM
Ball models + doubles stunt + creepy "Internet for dummies" web site + depleted field = :zzz: I'll catch only SFs and F

alfonsojose
10-19-2005, 04:08 PM
Even Hamburg was better... :lol:
:tape:

mangoes
10-19-2005, 04:11 PM
pretty pathetic. scheduling is terrible, the website is terrible (live scores :scared:). tv coverage is limited to european digital, southeast asia, and parts of south america.


I must agree with you. I think this is the worst tms for the year thus far. I wonder if spliting up the matches to this extent on different courts had to do with making more money. I don't understand why there should be this time lapse on center court while the other courts have matches in progress. Why not fill the time schedule on the center court. Extremely stupid scheduling. For goodness sake, we have seen Rusedski and Karlovic on center court, but Gaudio, Davendenko, Nalbandian, Ljubicic, all these guys are playing the secondary court and Verdasco, not even in the top 20, plays center court twice? This just doesn't make sense.

lilfairyprincess
10-19-2005, 04:13 PM
is anyone else findin the website/scoreboard really slow to load?..at first i thot it was my own connection but all other websites are workin fine..

i do agree tho..it does definately seem to be the worst organised out of the bunch!

Galaxystorm
10-19-2005, 04:15 PM
Even Hamburg was better... :lol:

This year i didn't visit too much Hamburg's site but last year was a joke, and this year as far as i saw Hamburg's site continued to be a shit, although improved a bit

Galaxystorm
10-19-2005, 04:16 PM
is anyone else findin the website/scoreboard really slow to load?..at first i thot it was my own connection but all other websites are workin fine..

i do agree tho..it does definately seem to be the worst organised out of the bunch!

The scoreboard sucks for everybody

revolution
10-19-2005, 04:20 PM
The scoreboards for Hamburg and Madrid are dreadful, they should be using the one that the other TMS events normally use, which is adequate.

The scheduling seems okay, I get live coverage of it so not too bad for me.

mangoes
10-19-2005, 04:22 PM
And this tms had the most drama leading into it...............

Clara Bow
10-19-2005, 04:23 PM
I must agree with you. I think this is the worst tms for the year thus far. I wonder if spliting up the matches to this extent on different courts had to do with making more money. I don't understand why there should be this time lapse on center court while the other courts have matches in progress. Why not fill the time schedule on the center court.

And the TV coverage is not as good either. I normally love the UK feed that we get for the Master’s tournies on the Tennis Channel and although it was still good today I got really annoyed when after the Henman match they showed a repeat snippet of the Max/JCF match instead of showing Oli/Mario live. And you wouldn’t know Nalbandian was playing here.

But I have seen a couple of matches I have enjoyed- such as the battle of the Fernandos yesterday. Maybe it will pick up.

The scheduling is bezerk though, that’s for sure.

mangoes
10-19-2005, 04:27 PM
And the TV coverage is not as good either. I normally love the UK feed that we get for the Master’s tournies on the Tennis Channel and although it was still good today I got really annoyed when after the Henman match they showed a repeat snippet of the Max/JCF match instead of showing Oli/Mario live. And you wouldn’t know Nalbandian was playing here.

But I have seen a couple of matches I have enjoyed- such as the battle of the Fernandos yesterday. Maybe it will pick up.

The scheduling is bezerk though, that’s for sure.


OH I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU ANYMORE.................I think it is the Tennis Channel's coverage that is making it even more obvious to me how poorly organized this event is. The other TMS had such great coverage, but I now realize that to have the great coverage, the event has to have something to cover. I also enjoyed the Verdasco/Gonzo match yesterday, one of the most entertaining matches thus far, nevertheless, Verdasco isn't Nadal or Andy, so why he has played center court twice makes little sense when there are other top 10 players in this event.

mickymouse
10-19-2005, 04:37 PM
OH I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU ANYMORE.................I think it is the Tennis Channel's coverage that is making it even more obvious to me how poorly organized this event is. The other TMS had such great coverage, but I now realize that to have the great coverage, the event has to have something to cover. I also enjoyed the Verdasco/Gonzo match yesterday, one of the most entertaining matches thus far, nevertheless, Verdasco isn't Nadal or Andy, so why he has played center court twice makes little sense when there are other top 10 players in this event.

Verdasco is a Spaniard....maybe this would explain why he has played centre court twice. I do enjoy watching him though :)

Deboogle!.
10-19-2005, 04:48 PM
I don't have a problem with them putting Spaniards on center court, every tourney does that, but most tourneys also make a concerted effort to have matches where the winners play each other next round play at approximately the same time. At this tourney, they'll have one match hours and hours and hours before the other one with the winners to play each other... most tournaments are more conscious of that and schedule better. Also the HUGE time gaps on center court I think make it tougher for TV coverage and that's why they're showing these snippets of repeats and stuff.

Plus the whole doubles stunt left such a bad taste in many of our mouths even before the tourney began.

The scoreboard actually seems to have the same structural framework as the other ATP scoreboard that the other tourneys use, it's just designed differently (Which would be ok if it worked properly, but it doesn't. :o)

mangoes
10-19-2005, 04:52 PM
I don't have a problem with them putting Spaniards on center court, every tourney does that, but most tourneys also make a concerted effort to have matches where the winners play each other next round play at approximately the same time. At this tourney, they'll have one match hours and hours and hours before the other one with the winners to play each other... most tournaments are more conscious of that and schedule better. Also the HUGE time gaps on center court I think make it tougher for TV coverage and that's why they're showing these snippets of repeats and stuff.

Plus the whole doubles stunt left such a bad taste in many of our mouths even before the tourney began.

The scoreboard actually seems to have the same structural framework as the other ATP scoreboard that the other tourneys use, it's just designed differently (Which would be ok if it worked properly, but it doesn't. :o)

I suppose after all the drama with the doubles, I expected more from a tournament that created so much noise before its start.

Yes, the scheduling is truly rediculous.

Scotso
10-19-2005, 04:54 PM
Indeed.

enqvistfan
10-19-2005, 05:21 PM
For goodness sake, we have seen Rusedski and Karlovic on center court, but Gaudio, Davendenko, Nalbandian, Ljubicic, all these guys are playing the secondary court and Verdasco, not even in the top 20, plays center court twice? This just doesn't make sense.

Verdasco is spanish, that is the reason. You'll see for the BNP Masters Parisbas, we'll have all the french on the centre court and sometimes, you have good matches on the smaller ones. It's always like that. But, it's true that the scoreboard sucks !!

mangoes
10-19-2005, 05:30 PM
Verdasco is spanish, that is the reason. You'll see for the BNP Masters Parisbas, we'll have all the french on the centre court and sometimes, you have good matches on the smaller ones. It's always like that. But, it's true that the scoreboard sucks !!


You know, I only used Verdasco as an example, but maybe I should have used Henman. I like Henman, but I don't see why he played center court twice. Again, there are other players in the top 10 participating in this event, however, one wouldn't think that is the case...........and that is just 1 of several gripes I have with the scheduling.

Galaxystorm
10-19-2005, 05:42 PM
It's difficult to understand why the fittest player on tour in these moments Ljubicic isn't playing on center court, but i don't know no tournament with a logical schedule . It's true that the website is a shit but the scheduling is a shit in all the tournaments, not only in Madrid ...

I call a scheduling as a shit when center court is plenty of matches with countrymen

enqvistfan
10-19-2005, 05:48 PM
I think it's also to touch a large audience. In Paris, they'll put all the French players because in France (I think it's the same in Spain or in the US), people watch if there are their national players. It's not fair for someone like Ljubicic, but I think it's also a question of money of course.

blosson
10-19-2005, 05:53 PM
Yep the scheduling is dreadful, the matches are very early or very late.
The website is also very bad, it's hard to find the 'results' and OP. It mixes Spanish and English languages in many places. Oh well...

Jogy
10-19-2005, 05:57 PM
bad Madrid, forget about it and fuck it!
send this Master tournament to Croatia, right? :lol:
:p

MariaV
10-19-2005, 06:01 PM
and Verdasco, not even in the top 20, plays center court twice? This just doesn't make sense.
He's the hometown boy so perfect sense. :lol:

Galaxystorm
10-19-2005, 06:06 PM
Yep the scheduling is dreadful, the matches are very early or very late.
The website is also very bad, it's hard to find the 'results' and OP. It mixes Spanish and English languages in many places. Oh well...

In UK you are used to go to sleep too early in comparison with Spain... ;)

Sommarsverige
10-19-2005, 06:15 PM
I think it´s totally okay that they put the Spanish guys on Center Court (it´s the same in other countries as well), but I agree about the other facts and the bad organization of TMS Madrid.

I cannot talk so much for this year, only for the scoreboard which we really sucks :devil: But last year I went to Madrid and it was the same like someone had already written above: the OOP was always wrong and when you came to the venue for a special match, this match was already played because they changed the schedule again...this made me very angry several times :mad:

And then it "rained" through the roof and even clay appeared on court 1, so the matches had to be interrupted for half an hour. It was funny to watch and we really had fun, but anyway, this may not happen at such a big tournament...

gooner88
10-19-2005, 08:41 PM
You know, I only used Verdasco as an example, but maybe I should have used Henman. I like Henman, but I don't see why he played center court twice. Again, there are other players in the top 10 participating in this event, however, one wouldn't think that is the case...........and that is just 1 of several gripes I have with the scheduling.

No doubt Sky had some influence in this. They pay a fair bit for the TV rights and they would prefer to show Henman here in the U.K.

Timariot
10-19-2005, 08:57 PM
Good thing that Madrid did not cancel doubles. I mean, looking at the rate singles draw is being depleted, doubles matches are pretty soon going to be their biggest draws...

enqvistfan
10-19-2005, 09:15 PM
I'm watching Moya/Robredo and one of the commentator complained of the organisation of the Madrid tournament :lol: He read this thread LOL

Well, he didn't understand why Karlovic who finished late his match was scheduled in the afternoon (at 2 pm), whereas Gonzalez/Coria was sheduled tomorrow evening. Well, he was happy for Karlovic when the organisation decided to swap the matches with Davydenko/Ginepri.

NYCtennisfan
10-19-2005, 10:43 PM
I have to agree with the original poster. Hopefully there will be a great match or two to salvage things.