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Nadal won't bow to knee troubles

nobama
10-18-2005, 01:14 AM
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,20281,16955528-5001023,00.html

RAFAEL Nadal promised today not to let organisers down, vowing to play through any pain in his position at top seed and major drawcard at the 2.1-million-euro Madrid Masters.

"I'm a bit injured," said the teenaged Roland Garros winner who stands as one of the few household names remaining in a field which is missing Roger Federer, Andre Agassi, Lleyton Hewitt and Marat Safin.

The absent quartet of injured stars means that Nadal is being chased by American second seed Andy Roddick, with Argentines and Spaniards populating the draw for a Spanish-speaking tennis-mad public.

"I thought my knee was getting better, but yesterday I started feeling pain," said Nadal, who has withdrawn from doubles with Feliciano Lopez in order to conserve energy.

"I had an MRI and it showed severe tendinitis in one knee. But my will to play will be there no matter what happens."

Nadal, who begins after a second-round bye against Romanian Victor Hanescu, who defeated Czech Tomas Zib 6-1, 6-4, said that he will have to refrain from training in order not to aggravate his knee more.

"It's not the best thing to keep my tennis level up, but it's best for my knee."
I hope Nadal is able to play, but I'd rather him not do serious damage to his knee. He's got plenty of years left to play Madrid.

amierin
10-18-2005, 01:22 AM
Think the Austrian reaction is still ringing in his ears? He should do what he has to do to stay healthy.

TenHound
10-18-2005, 01:29 AM
Is "severe tendinitis in one knee" standard operating procedure, or does it cast a cloud over his future, perhaps shortening his career?

Scotso
10-18-2005, 01:32 AM
Carlos should let him up once in a while. ;)

NicoFan
10-18-2005, 01:42 AM
Rafa shouldn't be playing if he has pain.

That's crazy.

nobama
10-18-2005, 01:49 AM
It isn't a slam, he can't make #1 this year and he's already qualified for TMC. He doesn't need to play through the pain. I know it's his hometown event, but he'll hopefully have lots of years left to play this event.

Scotso
10-18-2005, 01:50 AM
Guys... if it was really bad, he wouldn't play. :p

Deboogle!.
10-18-2005, 01:50 AM
But he's playing doubles, too. that just seems unnecessary.

NicoFan
10-18-2005, 01:51 AM
Guys... if it was really bad, he wouldn't play. :p

Actually not sure if that's true. There's a lot of pressure on him to play from many areas - its in Spain, sponsors, etc.

And he's young - may not realize that sometimes he just has to stand up and say NO!

Clara Bow
10-18-2005, 01:53 AM
I am so annoyed at the Vienna organizers right now. They screamed bloody murder when Rafa withdrew with knee pain that I have to think in a way that Nadal is remembering this when deciding not to withdraw from Madrid- even though his knees are really giving him trouble.

As a fan of his- I really hope that he doesn't do furhter damage to his knee by playing here. And I know a lot of people here on this board don't like Nadal- but I do think he is great for the sport- even if he doesn't play "pretty" tennis in it would be really sad if his knee became a big problem. He is a good kid who had enthusiasm- I hope that still even though he wants to play the tournies he keeps his long term health in mind. I think he is an asset to the sport.

t he's playing doubles, too. that just seems unnecessary.
Not anymore. He pulled out because of the knee pain.

Deboogle!.
10-18-2005, 01:56 AM
I doubt Vienna is weighing on his mind at all, but I bet his desire to play - and play well - at home, is. I'm sure he is aware that the tourney is counting on him for ticket sales, attention, and all that stuff, and I'm sure that it's important to him as it's important to all players to play at home.

But he's young and will have many many chances to play Madrid, so hopefully if he's not fit to play, he's not doing something stupid.

Ah, CB just saw the bottom of your post. Glad he's pulled out of doubles then, seems like the right decision. He must have decided that very late, though? It's still on tomorrow's OP, even after it was updated to reflect Verdasco as the winner of the night match.

HappyAndie
10-18-2005, 02:01 AM
:sad:

Poor Rafel. And his game is so based on running. That's not good.

I was really depressed that I don't have Madrid coverage, but with all my players dropping, I guess it doesn't matter :(

mangoes
10-18-2005, 02:08 AM
I really hope if the pain becomes too much, he pulls out.............I am sure there is a lot of pressure on him from the tournament directors. But, I'm hoping at least his uncle draws a line at some point.

nobama
10-18-2005, 02:09 AM
Actually not sure if that's true. There's a lot of pressure on him to play from many areas - its in Spain, sponsors, etc.

And he's young - may not realize that sometimes he just has to stand up and say NO!Didn't his coach Tony say something about him not wanting Rafa to play so much, but he just wouldn't listen. I know I read it somewhere. I just can't remember if it was a specific tournament he was referring to or just overall.

NicoFan
10-18-2005, 02:14 AM
Didn't his coach Tony say something about him not wanting Rafa to play so much, but he just wouldn't listen. I know I read it somewhere. I just can't remember if it was a specific tournament he was referring to or just overall.

I remember Uncle Toni said that he thought that Rafa played too much - but don't remember that Rafa wouldn't listen. Knowing Rafa, you remembered right. :sad: But he has cut down a bit....a tiny tiny bit. Hasn't been playing doubles as much.

I can't remember a season that I've wanted so much to end. Too many players hurt...Roger, Gasquet, now Rafa, etc. etc. Yet again, the season is too long but that's another discussion.

Grinder
10-18-2005, 02:26 AM
With this knee injury and all, Hanescu over Nadal at 9.50 is starting to look very tempting.

RogiFan88
10-18-2005, 02:42 AM
Is "severe tendinitis in one knee" standard operating procedure, or does it cast a cloud over his future, perhaps shortening his career?

Let's not finish his career just yet!

RogiFan88
10-18-2005, 02:44 AM
It isn't a slam, he can't make #1 this year and he's already qualified for TMC. He doesn't need to play through the pain. I know it's his hometown event, but he'll hopefully have lots of years left to play this event.

You're right but Rafa doesn't want to let down the organizers and his fans.

[he's fr Manacor, Mallorca... ;) ]

ExpectedWinner
10-18-2005, 04:38 AM
This is one of many ridiculous articles that targets some tenderhearted fans. The ATP is a tough place to be. Once someone decides to compete, nobody is interested what's going on with the body , or in life in general. I don't believe in heroics and loyalty to organizers/fans. Nobody can compete on this level through the pain. If a tennis player can perform, it means that she(he) is not injured at the moment, or the pain has been taken care of one way or another. Therefore, articles like this either scream attention, or create a " win-win" situation- if he loses, he is injured. If he wins, he is a hero with a big heart. :rolleyes: That's why I don't want to hear about Federer's feet, Safin/Nadal's knees, Hewitt's pregnancy, Roddick's mental disability :devil: and so on if these guys are able to compete.

Deboogle!.
10-18-2005, 04:48 AM
This is one of the ridiculous articles that targets some tenderhearted fans. The ATP is a tough place to be. Once someone decides to compete, nobody is interested what's going in with the body , or in the life in general. I don't believe in heroics and loyalty to organizers/fans. Nobody can compete on this level through the pain. If a tennis player can perform, it means that she(he) is not injured at the moment, or the pain has been taken care of one way or another. Therefore, articles like this either scream attention, or create a " win-win" situation- if he loses, he is injured. If he wins, he is a hero with a big heart. :rolleyes: That's why I don't want to hear about Federer's feet, Safin/Nadal's knees, Hewitt's pregnancy, Roddick's mental disability :devil: and so on if these guys are able to compete.Um, what? "Nobody" suggests you are speaking for us all, and I for one disagree with you.

When these players are hurt, especially the top ones, the sport loses, the fans lose. You don't think it matters that Federer hurt himself training? That was a freak accident, not a result of the tour being "tough." It's no secret that he's not my favorite player, but I don't see how him being on crutches instead of the court is irrelevant.

Moreover, it is not the players' fault if the press writes about these things. They can't help it.

I agree that if you take the court to play, you have to accept what happens. But that doesn't mean if someone is injured and loses they can't say "Well no I didn't play my best today because I am having problems with my knee but I didn't want to disappoint my home country in its biggest tournament." He would not be the first, nor will he be the last, player to play when he perhaps shouldn't b/c he wants to play at home in front of people who really want to see him and paid a lot of money to do it. So hopefully if he does decide to play on Wednesday that he knows what he's doing and that he's not risking anything permanent.

idolwatcher1
10-18-2005, 04:49 AM
Adrenaline is a good pain killer...not sure if that will be enough though...but only the strong will survive...

ExpectedWinner
10-18-2005, 04:55 AM
Is "severe tendinitis in one knee" standard operating procedure, or does it cast a cloud over his future, perhaps shortening his career?

Usually no surgical procedure is required, and this injury is hardly a career threatening. Some rest, icing, medications to reduce inflamations should be enough. Stretching and strengthening exercises are necessary.

ExpectedWinner
10-18-2005, 05:06 AM
You don't think it matters that Federer hurt himself training? That was a freak accident, not a result of the tour being "tough." It's no secret that he's not my favorite player, but I don't see how him being on crutches instead of the court is irrelevant.



It's a misunderstanding. When I say the tour is tough, I mean it's a very competitive place. Every player has had some injures/problems at some point. There's no need to put an emphasis on it if a player is able to compete. There's an unwritten rule in sports- if you can compete, shut up about your problems. If you are sidelined, you can "cry".

Clara Bow
10-18-2005, 05:06 AM
Nobody can compete on this level through the pain. If a tennis player can perform, it means that she(he) is not injured at the moment, or the pain has been taken care of one way or another.

I have to diasagree wholeheartedly, Athletes tend to play through pain- even when they should not be out there.

I know that through personal experience. My uncle was a really good baseball player (up through AAA in the Giants farm league three decades back) and had problems with his knee. He continued to play as shortstop for a few games when he should have rested and essentially shot out his knee.

As for myself- I was a highly ranked mid-distance runner in my state (crap- typo in initial post). I got harshly gang ***** when I was 15 - had physical trauma and it threw out my hip flexor totally and I ran in a meet two weeks later even though I shouldn't have and was still feeling pain. Stupid mistake that aggrevated a horrible injury and really frankly wrecked my chances for a collegiate career.

So sometimes athletes do play through pain- actually more often then they should.

mandoura
10-18-2005, 05:20 AM
Clara Bow, I agree with you. My son had a left wrist injury that stayed with him for almost 5 months. He used to play tennis with extreme pain while using his backhand. He now switched to a single handed backhand.

As for your trauma, I wouldn't comment on it because there is actually no words for it. :hatoff: to you for mentioning it. :hug:

ExpectedWinner
10-18-2005, 05:20 AM
I have to diasagree wholeheartedly, Athletes tend to play through pain- even when they should not be out there.

I know that through personal experience. My uncle was a really good baseball player (up through AAA in the Giants farm league three decades back) and had problems with his knee. He continued to play as shortstop for a few games when he should have rested and essentially shot out his knee.

As for myself- I as a highly ranked 1600m distance runner in my state. I got harshly gang ***** when I was 15 - had physical trauma and it threw out my hip flexor totally and I ran in meet two weeks later even though I shouldn't have and was still feeling pain. Stupid mistake that aggrevated a horrible injury and really frankly wrecked my chances for a collegiate career.

So sometimes atheletes do play through pain- actually more often then they should.

It's your right to disagree. However, ATP tennis is not a team competition and/ or relatively short 1500 m running . In this " one on one" sport a serious physical handicap will be immediately explored. I'm not talking about routine daily aches. You know, professional athletes have a saying- " If you wake up in the morning and nothing hurts, you are dead."

ExpectedWinner
10-18-2005, 05:30 AM
Um, what? "Nobody" suggests you are speaking for us all, and I for one disagree with you.



I always speak only for myself. Like I said in my initial post, tenderhearted fans will be interested. I mean nobody on tour ( fellow competitors and their teams) are keen on listening bs injury talks about a player who has not withdrawn.

Clara Bow
10-18-2005, 05:40 AM
You know, professional athletes have a saying- " If you wake up in the morning and nothing hurts, you are dead."


But I do think more in more in sport- and not just tennis but in all sport from pee-wee league to pros - there is more of the pressure to play through pain which players- be they in team or single sports - should not be playing through.

You see it in college sports more and more - especially here in the US- and more and more in colleges and in pro leagues where players are playing in a state of injury where frankly they would not have played 20 or so years ago. You also see it in high schools.

But I guess I am hijacking the thread for something that would be best for another board or at least not for GM.

ExpectedWinner
10-18-2005, 05:53 AM
But I do think more in more in sport- and not just tennis but in all sport from pee-wee league to pros - there is more of the pressure to play through pain which players- be they in team or single sports - should not be playing through.




It would be more correct to say- they are pushed to play through the injury because modern pharmacy is able to take care of pain. Whether or not athletes should take this crap which has both short and long term side affects, it's another story.

soraya
10-18-2005, 05:53 AM
This is one of the ridiculous articles that targets some tenderhearted fans. The ATP is a tough place to be. Once someone decides to compete, nobody is interested what's going in with the body , or in the life in general. I don't believe in heroics and loyalty to organizers/fans. Nobody can compete on this level through the pain. If a tennis player can perform, it means that she(he) is not injured at the moment, or the pain has been taken care of one way or another. Therefore, articles like this either scream attention, or create a " win-win" situation- if he loses, he is injured. If he wins, he is a hero with a big heart. :rolleyes: That's why I don't want to hear about Federer's feet, Safin/Nadal's knees, Hewitt's pregnancy, Roddick's mental disability :devil: and so on if these guys are able to compete.

LOl @H's pregnancy. u r so tough, but you are right, tendinitis is not a joke, it is so painfull, you are not able to bend the knee, walk and not even sit. the only way to bear the pain is to take plenty of painkillers which will make one's reflexeses dull. so i don't really know what is the real story here.

TenHound
10-18-2005, 06:31 AM
Is tendinitis merely an inflammation from playing too much - esp. on a not yet fully developed body - such that say he rested it for months - academic discussion here - would it go away forever, if he didn't overplay. Like say a sprain one once had. Or is tendinitis a permanent condition, once one gets it, that he'll now have to battle forever & can at best contain.

thanks for educating me!

yes_sir
10-18-2005, 06:42 AM
And how long will he last playing with an injured knee, hobbling around.
Bad injury for any player particularly for one that relies so heavily on court speed.

Common sense decision would be to withdraw and come back at 100%.

ExpectedWinner
10-18-2005, 06:47 AM
Is tendinitis merely an inflammation from playing too much - esp. on a not yet fully developed body - such that say he rested it for months - academic discussion here - would it go away forever, if he didn't overplay. Like say a sprain one once had. Or is tendinitis a permanent condition, once one gets it, that he'll now have to battle forever & can at best contain.

thanks for educating me!

Chronic, persistent tendinitis is possible. But with proper conditioning/warm up routine he should be able to avoid it.

christi
10-18-2005, 09:45 AM
Yes, I think I'll also bet on Hanescu winning tomorrow.... He's in shape, Nadal isn't, so the odds are too tempting...

Hope Nadal will be ok tho.... I also think he shouldn't play if he's not 100% well. He's taking a huge chance, right before the Masters Cup.

nobama
10-18-2005, 11:00 AM
Will Nadal withdraw from Basel then? I would feel bad for the tournament since Roger has already withdrawn, but Nadal doesn't need to play there and being healthy for TMC and AO is more important.

Deea
10-18-2005, 11:07 AM
Not the knee again! First Marat and now Rafael...Is this becoming a trend? A really bad one actually! Hope Nadal will be ok and that his injury is only a minor one! look what happened to marat! :bigcry:

iliketennis
10-18-2005, 11:14 AM
Nadal has too much muscle mass for his knees to support.

mallorn
10-18-2005, 11:15 AM
Nadal won’t bow to knee troubles … or will he?
Looks more and more likely. From Eurosport:
Tendinitis trouble for Nadal
World number two Rafael Nadal could join the list of high-profile withdrawals from the Madrid Masters Series if the tendinitis in his knees does not improve before his opening match on Wednesday. Coach Toni Nadal said that a decision would be taken after consultation with the player's doctor
The 19-year-old top seed withdrew from the ATP event in Vienna last week. Although he said he was determined to play Madrid tournament the pain in his knees could cause him to drop out again.
"I've been training for a couple of days and the knee is still hurting," said Nadal. "I've had a scan done and it shows that I've got acute tendinitis."
The two million euro ($2.4 million) hardcourt tournament has been hit by the withdrawal of some of the biggest attractions on the circuit.
World number one Roger Federer, Lleyton Hewitt, Andre Agassi and last year's winner Marat Safin have all pulled out because of injury.
Nadal has been given a bye into the second round and is due to play Victor Hanescu of Romania on Wednesday.
Reuters - 18/10/05
There’s an even worse-sounding article translated from a Spanish newspaper on vr.com Rafa Nadal might not play (http://vamosrafael.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=1514&start=300)
This is such a disappointing end of season for the top five :sad:

Galaxystorm
10-18-2005, 11:31 AM
Nadal has too much muscle mass for his knees to support.

Your theory makes no sense...

He's suffering knee problems since several years ago when he had much less muscular mass . It isn't a problem of weight at all

Galaxystorm
10-18-2005, 12:46 PM
Toni Nadal on Rafa's injury : " Rafa's participation is up in the air at the moment ".

It seems he isn't gonna risk at all ...

NicoFan
10-18-2005, 01:06 PM
Good for Rafa...common sense prevails...

Galaxystorm
10-18-2005, 02:05 PM
Tomorrow morning he will be submitted to the last medical tests in a Hospital in Madrid to decide on playing or not.

MariaV
10-18-2005, 06:58 PM
Thanks for the news Galaxystrom. Sad if he won't play though it might be smart. :sad:

musefanatic
10-18-2005, 07:01 PM
I hope he's ok, there's too many players out with injuries at the moment

Dirk
10-18-2005, 07:12 PM
Nadal needs to make the wise move because his game is really built on his legs and his style is defense. It's a shame this sort of thing has happened again this year. 2006 indoor season can only look better.

mickymouse
10-18-2005, 07:32 PM
What's the point of risking it and not being able to play to your potential? It doesn't make sense to me why any player, particularly one who has already secured the number 2 ranking, will want to risk his tennis career by doing that.

Clara Bow
10-18-2005, 07:43 PM
Boy, between Vienna and Madrid the organizers have really been putting Nadal under pressure. Someone posted this Mexican article in vr.com

"Panic" in Madrid because of a Nadal rumor

The mallorquin is redy for his debut


By Sebastián Fest, DPA

MADRID.— The rumor, a species that sometimes in tennis moves as fast as a serve, spread across yesterday's torurnament for a few hours: Nadal isn't going to play! Scared, the tournament organizers were wondering where those rumors had come from. Solution: Urgent press conference so that the manacori could calm things down.

Rafael Nadal, number 2 of the world and biggest spanish tennis figure, is the great hope for the Masters Series of Madrid after the withdrawals of the great Roger Federer, Andre Agassi or Lleyton Hewitt. It's true that the tickets for wednesday's sesion -Nadal's first match- are sold out, but the people responsible for this event weren't going to take any bad news coming from the media, not the worse news spanish peolpe could hear.

The "Tiriac factory" then started running, with help from the ATP. Nadal, who was in the players room in front of a tv watching his fellow Feliciano's last set, saw how Benito Pérez Barbadillo (responsable for ATP's press) sat beside him with a serious expression. A few feet away Cecilia Casla, the tournaments comunition chief, observed expectantly the scene.

" Rafa, we need you for a press conference" Perez Barbadillo said.
Nadal, streched out on a sofa and silightly asleep under a cap, said yes without a doubt.

" He underwent a magnetic resonance today, but we'll know the truth tomorrow" Toni Nadal, uncle and coach of Rafael, admited. " It will all depend on what the Doctor Angel Ruiz Cotorro says"

By this moment the Roland Garros champion was already walking up some stairs heading towards the press room, full of journalists who were betting on an announcemet from the young player saying he would not play.

Gerard Tsobanian, general director of the event, watch the panorama. Pérez Barbadillo, who the previous day had opened the press conference with a joke: "Rafa Nadal has come to say he will not play", wasn't in such a joking mood anymore, left the player to speak.

" I'm a bit injured on my knee, and that's why I didn't play in Vienna last week. It seemed like I was getting better, but yesterday I felt some strong pains" he started sayind before letting out the sentence the organizers where so willing to hear: " My intention is to play whatever happens. i am very excites about playing here in this tournament. Now I must leave, becasue I have to go training"

Smiles, gestures of relief and the " Nadal bomb" desactivated. The fast operation had worked. After all, nothing is to much if you have to defend a millionaire investment in a megatournament. Now all eyes or set on tomorrow wednesday's 16.00 (14:00 GMT), match whrn Nadal will play against Victor Hanescu. After today's fright, no one dares to look more ahead than that.

So it sounds like Nadal really wants to play but is worried about his knee, the Madrid organizers really, really want him to play and poor Uncle Toni just wants what's best for Nadal (i.e. not playing).

Sometimes I really am reminded how young Nadal is. I don't mean that as an insult but the does seem to have a real desire to play even when he shouldn't. Kind of youthful enthusisam - carpe diem - when really he should be thinking more long term at times. (I know I had that attitude about things when I was in high school and college.) I have to think though that he will learn his lesson next year and as he matures. And the tournie organizers need to back off or he needs to be more assertive but I also think that assertiveness will come more in time too.

MariaV
10-18-2005, 07:49 PM
Thanks for posting the article Clara. Of course he is a young kid and eager to play. :sad:

idolwatcher1
10-18-2005, 07:58 PM
Here's Nadal within the last couple days...

http://www.masters-series-madrid.com/gallery/images/image_98.jpg

Clara Bow
10-18-2005, 08:08 PM
Here's Nadal within the last couple days...

Oh yes, the pics from when they went to a Real Madrid practice session. :lol:

I don't know if you are trying to imply that 1) Nadal is faking about his knee or 2) is being a ninny by kicking the ball.

If you are saying 1) that he is faking- I disagree and do think that he has a legitimate problem with his knee. His doctor has made detailed statements about the knee and details from his practice sessions indicate that he is indeed looking out of sorts.

If you are saying 2) he is a ninny by fooling around with the soccer ball when he should be resting his knee then I wholeheartedly agree. :lol: (See my earlier statments about the sometimes fallacies of youth.)

idolwatcher1
10-18-2005, 08:11 PM
I'm not really sure what to think, but I'm leaning more with 2...because of everything I've heard

Galaxystorm
10-18-2005, 08:15 PM
Here's Nadal within the last couples of days

To have a tendinitis doesn't mean that the player is a disabled person..

In spite of the tendinitis he has been practising every day and if he's able to practise tennis i don't knw why he can't kick a soccer ball just 5 minutes...

idolwatcher1
10-18-2005, 08:20 PM
I don't recall anyone saying he was disabled...

Galaxystorm
10-18-2005, 08:27 PM
I don't recall anyone saying he was disabled...

Instead of being ambiguous why don't you say what you really think about that pic ??

Do you think he isn't professional just for kicking a soccer ball a few minutes instead of being on a sofa resting ??

He knows perfectly what kind of exercises can damage his knee and which not , and if he was kicking the ball it will be because his knee couldn't get worse and besides he wasn't playing soccer, only kicking a soccer ball, which is very different..

RonE
10-18-2005, 08:43 PM
As long as he knows what he is doing and plays without fear of risking aggravating the injury then it's all good. But if he is in a state where he really should be resting the knee and decides against medical advice to play because of the pressure the tournament organizers are putting on him then that could be a bad move.

Sure, you do not want to stick it in the eye of the sponsors who are paying oodles of $$$ for the event however there is a long term to think about- as many have said Rafa is still very young and eager to play and to keep everyone happy. But sometimes in life you cannot keep everyone happy and there are times you just need to tell everyone else to sod off and do what's best for yourself.

But he is a smart kid so I assume if the injury was really bad he wouldn't have risked aggravating it further by playing.

idolwatcher1
10-18-2005, 08:47 PM
Instead of being ambiguous why don't you say what you really think about that pic ??

Do you think he isn't professional just for kicking a soccer ball a few minutes instead of being on a sofa resting ??

He knows perfectly what kind of exercises can damage his knee and which not , and if he was kicking the ball it will be because his knee couldn't get worse and besides he wasn't playing soccer, only kicking a soccer ball, which is very different..

If you read what I already stated to Clara Bow, I am basically indecisive about it ...I'm really not sure what it means to you what I think anyway... :p

NYCtennisfan
10-19-2005, 12:17 AM
Carlos should let him up once in a while.

hahahahahaha.

I don't think the knees are that bad if he is playing. I don't care how much pressure people put on him. If the tendanitis was really bad, he wouldn't be ABLE to play.

nobama
10-19-2005, 01:28 AM
Well according to a post on http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=72341&page=4, it doesn't sound to good...Nadal's doctor clarified that he has tendonitis in both knees, but it's worse in the left knee. And if he thinks playing could worsen the injury he won't allow Rafa to play.

mangoes
10-19-2005, 03:04 AM
Well, usually tendonitis means rest so I hope Nadal doesn't push it. I think he is trying to make everyone happy. But at some point, I hope he says no if the pain is too much.

tennisinparis
10-19-2005, 03:28 AM
then get a life and don't read this stuff. every player does it at one time or another, so just get over it and stop reading post that you know you don't want to hear. be smart about it.

This is one of many ridiculous articles that targets some tenderhearted fans. The ATP is a tough place to be. Once someone decides to compete, nobody is interested what's going on with the body , or in life in general. I don't believe in heroics and loyalty to organizers/fans. Nobody can compete on this level through the pain. If a tennis player can perform, it means that she(he) is not injured at the moment, or the pain has been taken care of one way or another. Therefore, articles like this either scream attention, or create a " win-win" situation- if he loses, he is injured. If he wins, he is a hero with a big heart. :rolleyes: That's why I don't want to hear about Federer's feet, Safin/Nadal's knees, Hewitt's pregnancy, Roddick's mental disability :devil: and so on if these guys are able to compete.

tennisinparis
10-19-2005, 03:36 AM
I agree, but sometimes people let competitive edge and desire to win to take over this common sense knowledge. I, as a fan, would love to see him play and win, and all that wonderful stuff that everyone wishes for the player(s) they support, but at the same time, kind of wish he would just sit it out and get better. Maybe he still feels like he has stuff to prove, but who knows, none of us do, but makes fun for conversation.

And how long will he last playing with an injured knee, hobbling around.
Bad injury for any player particularly for one that relies so heavily on court speed.

Common sense decision would be to withdraw and come back at 100%.

jtipson
10-19-2005, 10:35 AM
Well, he's decided to play. The MRI scan this morning was obviously ok.

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/tenis/masters_series_de_madrid/es/desarrollo/576105.html

MariaV
10-19-2005, 11:20 AM
Thank god. :D

NicoFan
10-19-2005, 12:16 PM
Thanks for that news.

I'm so very happy the scan is okay...I feel so relieved.

VAMOS RAFAEL!

DhammaTiger
10-19-2005, 12:26 PM
Well, he's decided to play. The MRI scan this morning was obviously ok.

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/tenis/masters_series_de_madrid/es/desarrollo/576105.html
I am happy at the news too. Great to know that he is okay. Vamos Rafa.

ExpectedWinner
10-19-2005, 02:30 PM
then get a life and don't read this stuff. every player does it at one time or another, so just get over it and stop reading post that you know you don't want to hear. be smart about it.

Chill out. If I stop reading, how I'm supposed to find out what's going on. Some of us don't breath tennis 24 hours. Before I ran into this article, I've even had no idea about Nadal's health problems.

Rafa = Fed Killa
10-19-2005, 07:28 PM
One match done...hope the knee holds for the rest of the tournament.

RogiFan88
10-19-2005, 07:30 PM
Next match s be easier for Rafa.