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Andreev defeats Kiefer 5-7 7-6 6-2, to win the Kremlin Cup, and join elite group of 5

its.like.that
10-16-2005, 07:42 AM
Andreev beats Kiefer to win the Kremlin Cup and become one of only 5 players to have won 3 tournaments or more in 2005.

The multiple winners are:

Federer - 11
Nadal - 10
Gaudio - 5
Roddick - 4
Andreev - 3
F.Gonzalez - 2
J.Johansson - 2
Blake - 2
Ljubicic - 2

Action Jackson
10-16-2005, 07:43 AM
Igor should gave done it already except he played like a donkey in Bucharest.

Yes, the Russian crowd will help him get through in this match.

its.like.that
10-16-2005, 07:46 AM
Igor should gave done it already except he played like a donkey in Bucharest.

Yes, the Russian crowd will help him get through in this match.

4 titles would have been quite a feat for a guy ranked outside the top 30, not that 3 won't be a fair achievement as well.

Action Jackson
10-16-2005, 07:47 AM
4 titles would have been quite a feat for a guy ranked outside the top 30, not that 3 won't be a fair achievement as well.

Igor plays every week and in many ways he's a cheaper version of Gonzalez, but he does have some ability, and hope he comes through here against Kiefer.

its.like.that
10-16-2005, 07:51 AM
Igor showed some good fight yesterday. After losing the 1st set, he went up a break early in the 2nd at 3-1*, before Tursunov brought things back on level terms and held to 5-4*. I half expected Igor to crumple, but to his credit he held serve well, then broke, and the match was pretty much his from there on.

Action Jackson
10-16-2005, 07:54 AM
Thanks for that match review and Tursunov is a strange one, just goes for broke on anything, but Igor does have a good serve when he gets it in, though no great tactical mind on court, it would be good as he can win titles off the clay, but he can play on most surfaces.

its.like.that
10-16-2005, 08:00 AM
Thanks for that match review and Tursunov is a strange one, just goes for broke on anything, but Igor does have a good serve when he gets it in, though no great tactical mind on court, it would be good as he can win titles off the clay, but he can play on most surfaces.

:lol:

Early on, I'd have to say that Igor was pretty much playing the same game as Dmitry - just trying to belt as many winners as they could. But once Igor settled down and showed some resolve, Dmitry was out of sorts for letting the match slip away from his grasp late in the 2nd set, but at least he played out the match to the best of his ability - ala Marat :lol:.

Action Jackson
10-16-2005, 08:22 AM
In other words it was brainless ball bashing at it's highest quality from the Spanish Russian and the American Russian, but it's good that Andreev won though, nothing against Tursunov, as long as one of those guys beat Kiefer, then all good.

its.like.that
10-16-2005, 08:29 AM
you couldn't expect anything less from an all russian duel in russia under russian lights on a russian court.

Action Jackson
10-16-2005, 08:41 AM
you couldn't expect anything less from an all russian duel in russia under russian lights on a russian court.

Not as the glory days when the Swiss Harpo Marx lookalike was dominating this event, then the big Kafelnikov winning 5 in a row.

robinhood
10-16-2005, 08:41 AM
Maybe maybe not

its.like.that
10-16-2005, 08:46 AM
Maybe maybe not

thanks for the insight.

and some lovely names in your signature there, I must say I love bandwagon jumpers myself.

Leo
10-16-2005, 09:41 AM
In other words it was brainless ball bashing at it's highest quality from the Spanish Russian and the American Russian

More or less, it was, but that's a type of tennis I find very enjoyable. :D

I agree that Igor was very impressive in how he turned around the semifinal. Dmitry was completely outplaying him, serving bigger, taking the ball earlier, pushing his opponent behind the baseline. It seemed like Igor wasn't getting the time he needed to set up and go for his shots effectively. And in that 2nd set, Andreev kept blowing leads and opportunities, seemingly growing more frustrated and discouraged by the minute. But he pulled out a tough service game at 4-5 after being 2 points away from defeat more than once, then got lucky with some bad errors from Tursunov to break, and the match completely changed from then on. Tursunov was the demoralized one in the final set.

I only worry that Andreev may be fatigued. Many long weeks since the US Open because of all his wins, and also long doubles matches this week (including a 4-5, 5-4, 5-4 battle yesterday after finishing his 3-setter in singles!), but he should be confident with his form and the crowd can motivate him more. And even if Kiefer gets an early lead, you know he'll start choking at some point.

Action Jackson
10-16-2005, 09:44 AM
More or less, it was, but that's a type of tennis I find very enjoyable. :D

That's why you like the WTA then, it all makes sense now.

Tursunov is very up and down and as for Andreev, he is one of these guys who needs a lot of tennis, that's just him.

Scotso
10-16-2005, 10:05 AM
Igor's ball bashing is sexy... admit it.

The crowd will help him join this company :worship:

Action Jackson
10-16-2005, 10:09 AM
Igor's ball bashing is sexy... admit it.

The crowd will help him join this company :worship:

Mr KBF, we bat for different sides as for sexy with Igor's baseline ball bashing, well it's done in a certain style.

Just bash that ball for the title.

its.like.that
10-16-2005, 10:29 AM
davai igor

ClaycourtaZzZz.
10-16-2005, 11:08 AM
wtf:lol:

Do you need vcash?;)


:p

its.like.that
10-16-2005, 11:13 AM
wtf:lol:

Do you need vcash?;)


:p

if I needed v-cash, I would act more like you, ducky, and the other arseclowns on here.

ClaycourtaZzZz.
10-16-2005, 11:17 AM
:woohoo:

:retard::cuckoo:

I'll create all livescore threads:yeah: Then I'll be vrich:woohoo:

:retard:arselicker;)

its.like.that
10-16-2005, 11:33 AM
there is no comeback to such a comment

r_alynutza_86
10-16-2005, 11:41 AM
I really don't know what to say about the match between Igor and Kiefer. Igor lost once in front of Kiefer and...if he won't know how to react when he loses a point, won't know how to control his mind...he will lose cauz the mind id he's weak point. Davai Igor !!!

ClaycourtaZzZz.
10-16-2005, 11:50 AM
there is no comeback to such a comment
:nerner:

its.like.that
10-16-2005, 12:04 PM
I really don't know what to say about the match between Igor and Kiefer. Igor lost once in front of Kiefer and...if he won't know how to react when he loses a point, won't know how to control his mind...he will lose cauz the mind id he's weak point. Davai Igor !!!

thanks for the insight

KarstenBraasch#1
10-16-2005, 01:10 PM
The answer is no.

MariaV
10-16-2005, 01:13 PM
Looks like NO, sadly. :sad:

its.like.that
10-16-2005, 01:19 PM
The answer is no.

well done on the after-the-start prediction, that was extremely hard.

bad gambler
10-16-2005, 01:20 PM
Blake will join this list in 45 min or so

its.like.that
10-16-2005, 01:27 PM
Blake will join this list in 45 min or so

45 mins?

I've already pencilled him in.

:scratch:

ClaycourtaZzZz.
10-16-2005, 01:28 PM
Yes he can:haha:
But not this week:shrug:

:smash::smash::retard:

:haha:

its.like.that
10-16-2005, 01:30 PM
:retard:

bad gambler
10-16-2005, 01:34 PM
45 mins?

I've already pencilled him in.

:scratch:


officially in 45 min :cool:

its.like.that
10-16-2005, 03:04 PM
what a fight by Igor

Action Jackson
10-16-2005, 03:06 PM
what a fight by Igor

He has done it and great to be right and he is won on 2 different surfaces as well.

Eve83
10-16-2005, 03:06 PM
What a bad lines call to give Igor match point...ouch!!!

Congrats Igor! Still what a sad loss for Kiefer with that bad bad bad lines call!

Sjengster
10-16-2005, 03:27 PM
Here's an interesting stat: all three winners today claimed their third career title, and for Ljubo and Blake their second title of the year.

Action Jackson
10-16-2005, 03:30 PM
Here's an interesting stat: all three winners today claimed their third career title, and for Ljubo and Blake their second title of the year.

Yes, good to see you are on the ball.

I think we have a comeback player of the year for this year, James Blake.

LaTenista
10-16-2005, 03:31 PM
:woohoo: Carpet is the new clay, right?

Igor is a good egg, he was taking Ferrer laughing at him for playing every week and Safin mocking him pretty well at Cincy this year.

Nice to see a Russian after K-man win this title.

Action Jackson
10-16-2005, 03:37 PM
:woohoo: Carpet is the new clay, right?

Hehehehe, it's only when Nadal wins off clay, but Igor can play on other surfaces, though this can't be revealed to too many people.

Sjengster
10-16-2005, 03:40 PM
I can't believe the Frog was mocking out someone else for playing virtually every week, what a raging hypocrite. Still, nice to see the most extreme forehand grip at the top of the game getting it done indoors.

gary
10-16-2005, 03:44 PM
good fight Igor :worship: :banana:
wow 3 titles this year :yeah:
that's awesome :D :D

Action Jackson
10-16-2005, 03:45 PM
I can't believe the Frog was mocking out someone else for playing virtually every week, what a raging hypocrite. Still, nice to see the most extreme forehand grip at the top of the game getting it done indoors.

Froggy, well he has lost form at the moment. I remember when Andreev was on tour at the start, he did well in St Petersburg and in Moscow, so it's not a surprise.

He is still a bit of a poor mans Gonzo though. He is just following in the steps of Kafelnikov and Novacek, maybe like them he will make the top 10 in singles and playing every week.

Sjengster
10-16-2005, 03:53 PM
I don't know how I could forget his first big splash in Moscow two years ago, considering that he drubbed Schalken in the first round for the loss of 4 games when the latter was defending finalist... hmm, maybe that's why I did forget.

Action Jackson
10-16-2005, 03:56 PM
I don't know how I could forget his first big splash in Moscow two years ago, considering that he drubbed Schalken in the first round for the loss of 4 games when the latter was defending finalist... hmm, maybe that's why I did forget.

I heard some noises about him from some people I know in Spain, then made a note of it and then saw that result.

He'd have to be able to play indoors spending many of his years in Moscow, not easy to play outside the whole year round.

LaTenista
10-16-2005, 03:59 PM
I can't believe the Frog was mocking out someone else for playing virtually every week, what a raging hypocrite. Still, nice to see the most extreme forehand grip at the top of the game getting it done indoors.

Ferrer does not play every week. I can count at least 6 weeks this year he didn't play. Yes, he plays more than the average Top 20, but not every single week like Andreev.

Oh my god, what will Igor do, he didn't get into Madrid? Will he run to play a challenger? :rolleyes: :bolt:

Sjengster
10-16-2005, 04:00 PM
He did last year, maybe that's because he was losing early in a lot of events unlike his solid clay performances this year, but in Madrid against Corretja the commentators mentioned it was his 30th event of the year.

Action Jackson
10-16-2005, 04:01 PM
He did last year, maybe that's because he was losing early in a lot of events unlike his solid clay performances this year, but in Madrid against Corretja the commentators mentioned it was his 30th event of the year.

Big question can he do the Kafelnikov and Novacek?

LaTenista
10-16-2005, 04:07 PM
Froggy, well he has lost form at the moment.

The Madrid draw has been kind to him, he should make it to the 3rd round unless he does something completely stupid.

Apparently he either doesn't really know how to play indoor or hates it, last year he lost 1st round last four weeks of the season. It's heartbreaking because he reached a career high of 13 after his best ever USO (lost 3rd round to Hrbaty) and had a chance to possibly qualify for Masters Cup since he is 11th in the race. But he's pissing it all away with this funk or whatever it is since Davis Cup. :eek:

Leo
10-16-2005, 04:31 PM
I was so exhausted that I fell asleep at 7-5, 2-0 to Kiefer, when Andreev was about to get his knee re-wrapped. :o I didn't think he'd ever be able to come back, but apparently another nice turn-around just like in the semis! :eek: :)

It's always nice to see a Russian title exchange Russian hands. Last year this win launched Davydenko into his best ever season, but now he's seemingly cooling off and struggling to find consistency. Might Andreev become the new most consistent Russian in '06? Hmmm, I doubt it, he still has more to prove before he reaches Top 15 or 10. Hopefully he can realize the errors of playing ever single week on the tour. :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
10-16-2005, 04:35 PM
I was so exhausted that I fell asleep at 7-5, 2-0 to Kiefer, when Andreev was about to get his knee re-wrapped. :o I didn't think he'd ever be able to come back, but apparently another nice turn-around just like in the semis! :eek: :)

Shouldn't be watching the womens matches, seriously Davydenko is in the top 10, this has been a great year for him and he plays plenty of events, some players play well with lots of tennis and Andreev seems to be one of those guys.

Scotso
10-16-2005, 04:51 PM
Congratulations, Igor! :bounce:

Action Jackson
10-16-2005, 04:58 PM
A couple of pics.

http://www.gotennis.com/Photos/2005-10-16T161609Z_01_MOS77-D_RTRIDSP_2_SPORT-TENNIS-KREMLIN.jpg

http://www.gotennis.com/Photos/2005-10-16T164828Z_01_MOS80D_RTRIDSP_2_SPORT-TENNIS-KREMLIN.jpg

http://www.gotennis.com/Photos/2005-10-16T155840Z_01_MOS74-D_RTRIDSP_2_SPORT-TENNIS-KREMLIN.jpg

Scotso
10-16-2005, 05:04 PM
I love his reaction to winning! :D

Thanks for the pics!

MariaV
10-16-2005, 05:44 PM
He was so cute. :D

JMG
10-16-2005, 06:10 PM
He fell on his injured knee on that third pic. :eek:

Neely
10-16-2005, 09:01 PM
Damn, Kiefer really needed to win this leading 4-0 in the second set. That sucks of course and it only gets more and more difficult to finally win a final after all these losses. Andreev returned as a different player and his forehand was working better and Kiefer only became more defensive and didn't step up the pressure and lost it in the following. A big blow of course.

What I hated more it that this so-called "chair umpire" Grillotti had a piss poor performance. Not only with wrong calls that happened for both players I believe, but most of all he may never allow Andreev all these breaks. One break is okay for getting treatment, but what about this 10 minute break where Andreev left the court in the middle of the set, not even during a changeover at 4-0? When Roddick did this so many slagged him off for this behaviour, but when it's about Andreev who already received treatment before nobody, or only few, notice it. Seems like Andreev had two, three, four injury timeouts, right? :confused:

jole
10-16-2005, 09:20 PM
Way to go Igor! :D

KoOlMaNsEaN
10-16-2005, 09:43 PM
What a way to win down a set and 4-0! Kiwi choked!

its.like.that
10-17-2005, 05:46 AM
Andreev choked at *5-3 in the first set

It all evens out in the end :)

Action Jackson
10-17-2005, 05:49 AM
but what about this 10 minute break where Andreev left the court in the middle of the set, not even during a changeover at 4-0? When Roddick did this so many slagged him off for this behaviour, but when it's about Andreev who already received treatment before nobody, or only few, notice it. Seems like Andreev had two, three, four injury timeouts, right? :confused:

Can't make a comment on this Andreev incident as I didn't see it, whereas the other one I witnessed with my own eyes.