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Madrid to repeat models as ball-kids :eek:

tennischick
10-12-2005, 03:47 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport

Protests ignored as Madrid unites court and catwalk again
By Mark Hodgkinson
(Filed: 12/10/2005)

Organisers of the Masters Series tournament in Madrid, which starts in the Spanish capital on Monday, have decided to repeat last year's stunt of using provocatively dressed models as ball girls, a move that will add glamour to the event but also provoke controversy and criticism.

Andy Murray would undoubtedly have appreciated the models, but he was forced to turn down the offer of a wild card into the qualifying event for Madrid as he was already entered into next week's Challenger tournament in Denmark.

He has since withdrawn from the Danish Challenger because of his damaged hamstring, but he indicated last night that he would be "OK" for the ATP Tour event in Basle the week after next, for which he has a wild card into the main draw.

By employing the models for a second year, the Madrid Masters organisers have ignored strong objections from several senior Spanish politicians. Last year, Soledad Murillo, the minister for equality, wrote to the tournament director, the sponsor for the models, and the Madrid mayor demanding that the "sexist" practice be stopped.

Last season the models were required to wear slashed skirts and tight-fitting tops as they fetched the stray balls and handed towels to the players, and it is unlikely that the clothing sponsors will suddenly have come over all demure with this year's outfits. The politicians argue that the models are an example of "machismo" culture in Spain.

But the tournament organisers do not see the use of the models as demeaning or frivolous. "The initiative with the models was launched with success last year and the organisers are determined to continue with the idea this year," the directors said.

There are likely to be strong misgivings from within the sport. Some will argue that the players will be put off by the presence of the models, while other critics will question why tennis has to resort to boxing-style gimmicks to attract publicity.

The models will almost certainly show greater competence this year. The organisers claimed that the women, many of whom knew nothing about tennis before they were hired for the job, had been taking their preparations seriously and were in daily training.

Greg Rusedski had been expecting to play his opening round in Moscow yesterday, but his match against Frenchman Michael Llodra will instead take place today.

www.telegraph.co.uk/hodgkinson

Scotso
10-12-2005, 03:49 AM
LOL they had to mention Murray.

I guess that means he'll be #1, eh? :p

I don't mind it, but they should have male ones, too.

Grinder
10-12-2005, 03:52 AM
They should have models be ballgirls for every tournament :)

El Legenda
10-12-2005, 03:55 AM
Its a great idea, i wonder which genius came up with this one.

Deivid23
10-12-2005, 03:57 AM
What did they expect? Hugo Boss was on papers/TVs all days, they come back for more

El Legenda
10-12-2005, 03:58 AM
perfact hand toss.
http://img2.menstennisforums.com/500/wball21.jpg

chicky841
10-12-2005, 04:07 AM
lol i h8 it!. If there gonna do it, at least make it fair and have guy models too. but id rather have neither. what is the point of it?

Deivid23
10-12-2005, 04:08 AM
lol i h8 it!. If there gonna do it, at least make it fair and have guy models too. but id rather have neither. what is the point of it?

Money

star
10-12-2005, 04:11 AM
Heavens!! I thought it was only Americans who were money grubbing.

:lol:

El Legenda
10-12-2005, 04:23 AM
lol i h8 it!. If there gonna do it, at least make it fair and have guy models too. but id rather have neither. what is the point of it?

to make it fair? its mens Tournys they dont want male models as ball boys. maybe at WTA event.

nobama
10-12-2005, 04:38 AM
Federer commented on the use of models as ballgirls.

[Federer] deflected an inquiry about the Madrid tournament's use of models as ballgirls with the comment, "Do they pick up the balls well?" and a laugh. "If they do, it seems fine to me.

Deivid23
10-12-2005, 04:45 AM
Federer commented on the use of models as ballgirls.

Things in GM go this way, probably after these Federer´s comments, the ridiculous whining will stop. I mean, who the fuck cares at who the ball kids are in 7 or 8 matches? Not me at least. And apart from this, it was a great idea merchandising-wise as Hugo Boss got more coverage in that week than in years, hats off and full stop.

alelysafina
10-12-2005, 05:41 AM
I don't mind, I'm even thinking of applying for next year ;)

*Viva Chile*
10-12-2005, 06:01 AM
to make it fair? its mens Tournys they dont want male models as ball boys. maybe at WTA event.

Maybe the WTA Championships next year.... they will be played in Madrid arena too (the same place as AMS Madrid) ;)

its.like.that
10-12-2005, 06:14 AM
good to see them back

:yeah:

flmmkrz
10-12-2005, 06:33 AM
something about models grabbing balls just seems right to me

Rafa = Fed Killa
10-12-2005, 07:58 AM
^ Classic Quote :D

cobalt60
10-12-2005, 11:57 AM
something about models grabbing balls just seems right to me
:lol: And I bet the players and coaches will take full advantage ;)

jtipson
10-12-2005, 12:00 PM
Maybe the WTA Championships next year.... they will be played in Madrid arena too (the same place as AMS Madrid) ;)

Yes, they did mention last year that they if they got a WTA tournament, they'd use male models. It's only fair. Not that it will persuade me to watch it though.

NicoFan
10-12-2005, 02:34 PM
If men and women want to enjoy and appreciate each other's "assets", I'm all for it...natural part of life and to be totally expected. ;)

However, this is a professional sport. Not the WWF. If they want to have models escort the players on to the court or have some modeling show as a pre-event, that's fine...gives the guys some dates for the week ;) and gives the ladies a job.

But not as ballgirls. It looks unprofessional and sexist, and cheapens the sport.

Plus ballkids look so forward to being on court with their top players or their favorites.

But that's my humble opinion. :)

jtipson
10-12-2005, 02:43 PM
I don't think the original idea was to provide the players with extra entertainment, it was to draw in the crowd. Unfortunately, they didn't seem to realise that this kind of statement might immediately alienate a large proportion of their potential ticket-buyers (the females).

NicoFan
10-12-2005, 03:01 PM
I don't think the original idea was to provide the players with extra entertainment, it was to draw in the crowd. Unfortunately, they didn't seem to realise that this kind of statement might immediately alienate a large proportion of their potential ticket-buyers (the females).


I was just being humorous...or attempting to be...lol!!! Because they are asking the player's opinions.

It does alienate a large percentage of the potential ticket-buyers.

I can only speak for the US since that's where I'm from, but sports marketers have realized that men already watch sports - if they want to grow, they have to target the female audience. One sport that has done that effectively is NASCAR. Has grown tremendously by targeting the female audience. And the advertisements during the races reflect that. Obviously NASCAR and tennis are two different sports, but marketing is marketing.

Of course, one could argue that women get the enjoyment of watching the male players....I for one really enjoyed watching the guys practicing shirtless this summer and have the pictures to prove it!!! lol!!!!!!!!!

But then again, they don't play shirtless - maybe we should have a tournament where the guys play shirtless and there are model ballgirls! Something for both genders in the audience. That ought to sink the sport to a new low... ;)

dkw
10-12-2005, 03:04 PM
Sexist Mexist :rolleyes: I think this just opens a whole new area of tennis strategizing. A player can send his coach to scout whether his next opponent likes blonds/ brunettes/petite/curvy and try to encourage such models to work on the day of their match.

Of course the whole plan may backfire and the player himself maybe the one who gets distracted, but these are the risks you take when implementing new cutting edge strategies :angel:

star
10-12-2005, 03:06 PM
Yes! Let's have the men play in those same Hugo Boss shirts! ;) :drool:

And short shorts.

NicoFan
10-12-2005, 03:11 PM
DKW - Bet the coaches would LOVE that assignment...lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Star - oh no, forget the short shorts!!! Yuck!!! Shirtless has my vote - well for the players that can pull off shirtless! There are a few players that we may have to ask with all due respect to please keep their shirts on... ;)

star
10-12-2005, 03:14 PM
Hey, I remember when tennis players had thighs as well as calves. It's so much better to see their legs than to have them all covered up long baggy shorts that are more like skirts than anything. :)

Margy
10-12-2005, 03:18 PM
Well, we know that the Madrid organizers were so in favor of the ATP Doubles Enhancements that they decided to unilaterally cancel doubles.
The models as ballgirls are their version of Singles Enhancements.

The fact that many of the models are themselves "Double Enhanced" is just an added bonus for them! :lol:

Adman
10-12-2005, 03:22 PM
perfact hand toss.
http://img2.menstennisforums.com/500/wball21.jpg

Andre had to keep his eyes off them as Steffi was watching from the stands.

NicoFan
10-12-2005, 03:23 PM
Hey, I remember when tennis players had thighs as well as calves. It's so much better to see their legs than to have them all covered up long baggy shorts that are more like skirts than anything. :)

Star - I remember them too - really though do we want to go back there again??? I guess we'll have to agree to disagree... :) :) Though maybe you have a point - at the Pilot Pen, Feli Lopez was goofing around so much in practice one day, and he kept hiking up his shorts around his upper legs...I got a picture of it...it was funny but also very enjoyable :devil: . I'll try to remember to post it here when I get home.

jtipson
10-12-2005, 03:24 PM
I was just being humorous...or attempting to be...lol!!! Because they are asking the player's opinions.

It does alienate a large percentage of the potential ticket-buyers.


Sorry, I missed your winks when reading the archived version. Yes, I certainly felt alienated by this move, but not enough to be put off buying tickets though. Tennis certainly seems to be dumbing down, and doubtless there will be more dazzling ideas from the tournament directors the world over...

Have to say I'm totally with star on the shorts though. I find watching shirtless players mildly embarrassing (not that I get any chance to see them practising in that state at Wimby as it's still not allowed, I don't think), but I do miss seeing legs.

NicoFan
10-12-2005, 03:24 PM
Well, we know that the Madrid organizers were so in favor of the ATP Doubles Enhancements that they decided to unilaterally cancel doubles.
The models as ballgirls are their version of Singles Enhancements.

The fact that many of the models are themselves "Double Enhanced" is just an added bonus for them! :lol:


:D :D :D

cobalt60
10-12-2005, 03:27 PM
Well, we know that the Madrid organizers were so in favor of the ATP Doubles Enhancements that they decided to unilaterally cancel doubles.
The models as ballgirls are their version of Singles Enhancements.

The fact that many of the models are themselves "Double Enhanced" is just an added bonus for them! :lol:
:worship:

propi
10-12-2005, 03:45 PM
LOL they had to mention Murray.

I guess that means he'll be #1, eh? :p

I don't mind it, but they should have male ones, too.
They said a couple of months ago, there will be male models for WTA YEC next year in Madrid

NYCtennisfan
10-12-2005, 04:12 PM
If men and women want to enjoy and appreciate each other's "assets", I'm all for it...natural part of life and to be totally expected.

However, this is a professional sport. Not the WWF. If they want to have models escort the players on to the court or have some modeling show as a pre-event, that's fine...gives the guys some dates for the week and gives the ladies a job.

But not as ballgirls. It looks unprofessional and sexist, and cheapens the sport.

Plus ballkids look so forward to being on court with their top players or their favorites.

But that's my humble opinion.

Completely agree. You can have both but just divy up their roles in the tourny.

chicky841
10-14-2005, 12:26 AM
I can deal with it as long as it isnt adopted by other tourneys.

Chris Seahorse
10-14-2005, 01:05 AM
Things like the changes the ATP are making to the Doubles game get me very angry. This in contrast is absolutely trivial. As long the rules of the game and the dimensions of the court etc stay the same I would be content if the ball girls/boys/models/whatever all dressed up in gorilla costumes.

sigmagirl91
10-14-2005, 01:25 AM
They said a couple of months ago, there will be male models for WTA YEC next year in Madrid

Then we'll have the male posters on here screaming "sexist, sexist".

Billabong
10-14-2005, 05:10 AM
LOL:lol::yeah:

Rex
10-14-2005, 05:22 PM
its so fukin stupid-------- i really dont see the point......

i mean dont get me wrong i would like some eye candy durin a match and then something after if u know what i mean......... ;)

BBBBBBBBBUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTT really----i think it takes the piss out of a very very very very very very very very professinal sport.

peteslamz
10-17-2005, 06:40 PM
Pics from ballmodels' practice

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40913000/jpg/_40913336_madrid_getty_270.jpg
:eek:

http://tinypic.com/eplroy.jpg

JuchuPati
10-17-2005, 07:07 PM
Pics from ballmodels' practice

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40913000/jpg/_40913336_madrid_getty_270.jpg
:eek:

http://tinypic.com/eplroy.jpg


the right boob of the 1st model seems bit ...full? :angel:

RogerRocks
10-17-2005, 07:47 PM
the right boob of the 1st model seems bit ...full? :angel:

that pic is odd :lol:

El Legenda
10-17-2005, 07:48 PM
Pics from ballmodels' practice

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40913000/jpg/_40913336_madrid_getty_270.jpg
:eek:

http://tinypic.com/eplroy.jpg

:drool:

michelleg
10-17-2005, 08:03 PM
Saline or silicone? Either way, that sucker's gonna explode soon.

If they can allow THAT on the court, then there's no excuse for not having roving beer and peanut vendors in the stands!

Turkeyballs Paco
10-17-2005, 08:22 PM
Oh, no not again! It's sexist and stupid. But maybe one of them will trip, fall and smash one of her fake boobs, causing a slippery leak all over the court surface, suspending play and pissing off the players. Uh huh, that might happen. ;)

Fumus
10-17-2005, 08:23 PM
I heart the ball girls. When can they be topless?

Turkeyballs Paco
10-17-2005, 08:25 PM
Topless! that would be very dangerous. see my post above.

I'll agree to topless ballgirls when the WTA can have bottomless ball-men!

blosson
10-17-2005, 09:20 PM
I heart the ball girls. When can they be topless?

Fumus, if the models were topless Andy's shorts would be a mess.

KoOlMaNsEaN
10-17-2005, 11:23 PM
Last year they only did it at night now it's all day..

Jogy
10-17-2005, 11:34 PM
damn, some of these ball girls are really :drool: :lick:

:lol: ;)

Alvarillo
10-17-2005, 11:36 PM
Last year they only did it at night now it's all day..
all day? only 2 matches .....

Turkeyballs Paco
10-18-2005, 03:47 PM
damn, some of these ball girls are really :drool: :lick:

:lol: ;)

hmm. some of the lines people (girls) look pretty good too, and I'm not even in to women! :lol:

~EMiLiTA~
10-18-2005, 03:56 PM
Oh, no not again! It's sexist and stupid. But maybe one of them will trip, fall and smash one of her fake boobs, causing a slippery leak all over the court surface, suspending play and pissing off the players. Uh huh, that might happen. ;)

*giggle*

Fumus
10-18-2005, 04:42 PM
Fumus, if the models were topless Andy's shorts would be a mess.

So would mine. :)

Sugar Kane
10-18-2005, 06:06 PM
Fumus, if the models were topless Andy's shorts would be a mess.
http://yelims5.free.fr/Yeux/Yeux04.gif :lol:

joyk
10-18-2005, 06:12 PM
Fumus, if the models were topless Andy's shorts would be a mess.
I think all the players would have that problem.