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They're just trying to hand Agassi the title

jenglisbe
09-03-2003, 12:37 PM
They managed to get 3 sets of Agassi's match in yesteday, and no other men's match got more than a set in. Now they have women's QF matches scheduled first today - while the men haven't completed the 4th round. Agassi is resting pretty...

Aleta4
09-03-2003, 12:58 PM
On Eurosport they said yesterday that they even let Andy Roddick PRACTICE on court 11 and Coria/Björkman had to wait for him before they could start their main draw match. Coria's coach Mancini started screaming out there cause of this.

Why not just let Anrdre and Andy play the final, the other foreign players seem to be just a major inconvinience in the US :rolleyes:

Doris Loeffel
09-03-2003, 01:28 PM
... you're not really surprised about that are u??

Aleta4
09-03-2003, 01:57 PM
... you're not really surprised about that are u??

Well, nothing surprises me about the USO organizers but I have lost all respect for Andy Roddick. Never liked his game but thought he is a nice guy but to put his own practice ahead of a main draw match shows he has indeed no respect for other players.

star
09-03-2003, 02:15 PM
I don't think that Roddick claimed court 11 for himself. Federer was also warming up on a main court where players could have been playing, and not a practice court. The problem is getting enough courts dry at the same time to have matches played and to give the players a safe warm-up for matches that were to be played later. And Gui is my favorite player right after Guga, so it's not like I didn't want my guy out there. I mean he already got rooked because the stupid blower blew up and spilled oil all over the grandstand court.

It is totally the organizer's fault. They obviously can't cover all the courts, but they should have a tarp system in place so that they can get the courts ready for play more quickly. They are making this look like some little rinkydink tournament with the blowers and the long delays.

star
09-03-2003, 02:21 PM
And the other thing the organizers might want to kick themselves for is their scheduling of the opening round over three days instead of two. That looked pretty odd to begin with and now it looks downright foolish.

Aleta4
09-03-2003, 03:08 PM
And the other thing the organizers might want to kick themselves for is their scheduling of the opening round over three days instead of two. That looked pretty odd to begin with and now it looks downright foolish.

AMEN AMEN AMEN especially since they knew for a while that the second week would be full of rain :rain: :smash:

TheBoiledEgg
09-03-2003, 03:11 PM
And the other thing the organizers might want to kick themselves for is their scheduling of the opening round over three days instead of two. That looked pretty odd to begin with and now it looks downright foolish.


USTA have always done this since Super-Stupid Saturday 1st came about some years ago. (80's i think)

Thats how they can get 2 mens SF on a saturday.

J. Corwin
09-03-2003, 06:28 PM
All this rain is getting mildly obnoxious.

Aleta4
09-03-2003, 06:36 PM
I don't think that Roddick claimed court 11 for himself. Federer was also warming up on a main court where players could have been playing, and not a practice court. The problem is getting enough courts dry at the same time to have matches played and to give the players a safe warm-up for matches that were to be played later. And Gui is my favorite player right after Guga, so it's not like I didn't want my guy out there. I mean he already got rooked because the stupid blower blew up and spilled oil all over the grandstand court.

They just interviewed Mancini about this incident yesterday and he said he had been quite pissed and did not understand that they did not even call Coria/Bkjörkman out to the courts to play as soon as they were dry cause they wanted ANdy to finish his practice. He had to go there and TELL them that the players were ready to go.

Afterwards they interviewed Schüttler coach about the USO and he just used words like "unworthy of a slam", "favouratism of American players", "disrespectful of players"

And last but not least "the USO is getting the weather it deserves"

Looks like they are having fun over there :rolleyes: :lol:

jmp
09-03-2003, 07:57 PM
It is disappointing to read about the Coria incident and Rainer's comments. While it saddens me, it doesn't surprise me. Being born and bred in the good ol' USA, you learn the system pretty quickly - scholarships, promotions, loans, etc. I liked tennis from the time I was very young because it was an international, individual sport. But, for some reason, this year's events are really "bringing me over, man".

That quote is an obscure reference to the classic movie "Better Off Dead". ;)

Even when I'm rooting for one player over another, I don't like bad calls or crowds that jeer a specific player or clap for service faults. It really disgusts me when big money, large organizations, and governments are unfair. There's a big difference between giving someone a chance and maintaining the status quo or some kind of air of superiority.

star
09-03-2003, 07:58 PM
:lol:

That is very funny. No wonder the European and S.A. players don't like the USO.

Scotso
09-04-2003, 02:35 AM
Now they're letting Roddick play his match and not even letting Coria attempt to play :rolleyes:

They are really trying to screw him over.

Pea
09-04-2003, 04:53 AM
Dickhead just never seizes to amaze me.:rolleyes:

Chrisie
09-04-2003, 05:32 AM
Well, Andy won, so the only two quarter-finalists are American. I agree USO organisers are the worst. In the first 5 days, someone's playing 1rd, some 2rd, some have 1 day break, some have two days. Exactly how they manage to make the players finish the whole thing together is quite a mystery.

walee
09-04-2003, 07:27 AM
On Eurosport they said yesterday that they even let Andy Roddick PRACTICE on court 11 and Coria/Björkman had to wait for him before they could start their main draw match. Coria's coach Mancini started screaming out there cause of this.

Why not just let Anrdre and Andy play the final, the other foreign players seem to be just a major inconvinience in the US :rolleyes:

Johnny Mac bought this up in the evening session before Roddick's match. Even he said the organizer should have played fair to all the players and not favouring the Americans. And what bugs me is, they try to pretend to be fair and let the players in the same quarter to start at the same order, but they obviously don't try very hard to get the courts ready at the same time. Last night, no one on the other courts got to start their matches until Agassi finished a whole set and change. And the Americans are the one getting to play on Ashe. See that now both Americans: Agassi and Roddick, got thru and got at least one day of rest (that's if the other gets to play tomorrow) or 2 before the next round comes, the USTA is doing a very good job to make sure that they get their dream Men's Final this year.

Doris Loeffel
09-04-2003, 07:30 AM
Well all I say now

it' really stinks....

...it even can be smelt here in ol Europe....

...hopefully they get the dreamfinal they deserve

Ferrero vs Federer!!

I know the bad thoughts may turn towards me but right now I can't think positive of this tournament anymore!!

walee
09-04-2003, 07:44 AM
I'm with you. Ferrero vs. Federer would be great, even better a Coria vs. Schalken final, then maybe USTA will decide that if they can't get the tournament to finish on sunday, they'll just cancel the final and no one in America will notice. I hope they lose money this year.

FedFan
09-04-2003, 08:40 AM
Ferrero and Federer will have no chances to win this tournament. How should they win four best of five matches in a row? It is only a question between Agassi and Roddick, because they even have one day of rest. This is a big advantage for them.

Congratulations to the organizers! You did a big job for the Americans! :-((

Lisbeth
09-04-2003, 09:41 AM
I am not writing off Federer or Ferrero ... or a number of other guys for that matter. Still, the blatant favouritism is nauseating. Even the American commentators (Wertheim, J Mac), not to mention a lot of normal American lovers of fair play on this board, are disgusted.

liS@
09-04-2003, 09:59 AM
On Eurosport they said yesterday that they even let Andy Roddick PRACTICE on court 11 and Coria/Björkman had to wait for him before they could start their main draw match. Coria's coach Mancini started screaming out there cause of this.

Why not just let Anrdre and Andy play the final, the other foreign players seem to be just a major inconvinience in the US :rolleyes:

yeah, they showed Andy practicing on court 11 too on ESPN... haha and yeah, they should just seriously go ahead and let the two americans play in the final, as much as i would hate that... i don't think the other players even wants to now anyway after all this discrimination... what's all this buzz about promoting international players when Coria seeded 5th cannot make his big debute to the American public until he makes it the the QF, and that's only b/c Andre is up next... :rolleyes:

I don't understand y the USO can't just buy more dryers and hire more staff so they can dry all the courts at the same time... it's just unreasonable that they decide to resume play on Ashe but not on Armstrong... stop being so stubborn w/ ur nonsense schdueling format and 5th-set tie-breakers!! even Wimbledon has gotten (somewhat) past their boycott-worthy seeding system!!

Doris Loeffel
09-04-2003, 10:04 AM
Looks like they forgot to pay for the rain-delay injurance...

TheBoiledEgg
09-04-2003, 10:32 AM
interesting how Schuttler and Schalken couldn't get onto court yesterday after the rain delay at 5-1 cos the court was deemed unplayable :rolleyes:

the players just sat in the chairs for a few mins before been taken off.

all this while Dickhead was playing his 4th rd match on AA.

Tennis Fool
09-04-2003, 01:14 PM
Okay, this American bashing is starting to be too much. A&R don't have this tourney wrapped up. Anything can happen in the next few days, and the players *do* have a voice and will speak up. The USTA knows that the world is watching.

Of course there is blantant American favoritism, this *is* the US Open and they will favor the Americans, that's what the US public came to see Andy and Agassi and Blake at Ashe Stadium--it wouldn't be any different if Wimbledon or Australia or France had the world's top players.

Get over it. It's the rain that's been the problem. It looks clearer today, not a total wipeout though rain is expected.

Tennis Fool
09-04-2003, 01:16 PM
interesting how Schuttler and Schalken couldn't get onto court yesterday after the rain delay at 5-1 cos the court was deemed unplayable :rolleyes:


Since when do you care about S&S...

Doris Loeffel
09-04-2003, 01:18 PM
Even Tim-Mania at Wimby isn't as bad as what happened here now!!

Tennis Fool
09-04-2003, 01:23 PM
Yeah, Tim wasn't bumped from 29 rank to No. 10.

Imagine the outcry if that was done for Andy.

Scotso
09-04-2003, 01:44 PM
Tim is one of the best grasscourt players in the world.

Your "prediction" is reason enough to believe you are a little biased in your arguments.

If there is a god, Agassi nor Roddick will win this event.

Vamos Juan Carlos!

Tennis Fool
09-04-2003, 02:07 PM
Dr. S:

I'm not a Roddick fan. I tried to go with who would win the tournament. If I went with my biases, it would be Fedex all the way :yeah:

Chrisie
09-04-2003, 02:31 PM
interesting how Schuttler and Schalken couldn't get onto court yesterday after the rain delay at 5-1 cos the court was deemed unplayable :rolleyes:
I was wondering about that, too. Maybe they were afraid of using too much electricity and causing another blackout?

TheBoiledEgg
09-04-2003, 02:41 PM
guess why they had to come off........ they didn't have enough Court Crew to keep on wiping down the lines and drying.

How pathetic is that ????

walee
09-04-2003, 05:57 PM
Okay, this American bashing is starting to be too much. A&R don't have this tourney wrapped up. Anything can happen in the next few days, and the players *do* have a voice and will speak up. The USTA knows that the world is watching.

Of course there is blantant American favoritism, this *is* the US Open and they will favor the Americans, that's what the US public came to see Andy and Agassi and Blake at Ashe Stadium--it wouldn't be any different if Wimbledon or Australia or France had the world's top players.

Get over it. It's the rain that's been the problem. It looks clearer today, not a total wipeout though rain is expected.

It's US Open so it's okay not to play FAIR??? We were bashing Henman's Wimbledon seeding too. It's alright they put the Americans on Ashe, it's not alright when they only trying to get Ashe ready for play, that's what Johnny Mac is saying and I agree. The world is watching and the world is voicing their displease at this matter. Myself and JohnnyMac are both Americans complaining this issue, not every American think it's natural to give favouritism even the event is in America, some Americans believe in fairness.

walee
09-04-2003, 06:43 PM
Quoted from the news:

Meanwhile, tennis legend Martina Navratilova criticised the decisions of officials to alter the tournament schedule.

Players have been kept waiting around indefinitely before being shunted off the day's schedule altogether to make way for higher-profile matches.

The rain is forcing major alterations to the schedule
"This is the poorest scheduling I've ever been part of in any grand slam," said Navaratilova.

"If you ask the other players, they would say the same thing but they haven't played in as many as I have.

"It's atrocious - of course it's important to make money but you also have to run a good tournament. Those decisions are near-sighted."

Japan's 15th seed Ai Sugiyama, who leads Francesca Schiavone 7-6 5-4 and has been waiting three days to complete the match, has been particularly badly affected.

"If the score is 2-2, or at the beginning of the match, it shouldn't be that frustrating," she said.

"But it's at the end of the set, so it's hard to keep your concentration.

"We have no voice, of course, about when we're going to play or where we're going to play."
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To Martina and Ai: C'mon, get over it.

lizabeth..*
09-05-2003, 01:33 AM
Biggest joke if I ever saw one....

And the most amusing thing of this all is the fact that there are 12 indoor courts and majority of them are being used for corperate areas.....how convenient

Layla
09-06-2003, 09:45 PM
It is disappointing to read about the Coria incident and Rainer's comments. While it saddens me, it doesn't surprise me. Being born and bred in the good ol' USA, you learn the system pretty quickly - scholarships, promotions, loans, etc. I liked tennis from the time I was very young because it was an international, individual sport. But, for some reason, this year's events are really "bringing me over, man".

That quote is an obscure reference to the classic movie "Better Off Dead". ;)

Even when I'm rooting for one player over another, I don't like bad calls or crowds that jeer a specific player or clap for service faults. It really disgusts me when big money, large organizations, and governments are unfair. There's a big difference between giving someone a chance and maintaining the status quo or some kind of air of superiority.

Better Off Dead! :worship: :worship: :worship:

I would give an arm and a leg to see that movie again, but can't find it anywhere. :( I watched it a long, long time ago, along with the other Cusack classics of the time. :D That was back when VCR's where still a big deal and I just joined my first video rental club. :lol:

Thanks for taking me down memory lane. ;)

p.s. Sorry this isn't tennis related. :o I agree with you on that as well. It didn't pay off in the end anyway. ;)

Scotso
09-06-2003, 11:06 PM
It might all still pay off for the prick :rolleyes:

Layla
09-06-2003, 11:21 PM
Yeah, all because some prick called out at 7-7 in the tie-break. :fiery:

liS@
09-07-2003, 12:47 AM
"But I know that the American guys go first than me here in this tournament. But the only thing that I want to say, that if this tournament wins a lot of money with us, with the players, you know, and they have to do some more people to dry the courts, you know. All the courts at the same time, not first the center court, 45 minutes later the Louis Armstrong or whatever, Grandstand, whatever. Doesn't matter. They have to have more people to dry the courts faster - not faster, at the same time.

Because if not, it's happen like the other day. Agassi won in three sets to Dent, and I did only one set, only for the dry courts. So this is not right, I think."

- JC after his win vs. Andre SF when inquired about the Americans-first policy. (Well said!!...)

*Is US Open another one that requires 'appearance fees'?? Or is JC referring to the money from the fans??

Vera
09-07-2003, 03:33 AM
He means that USO made a lot of money bcos fans buy tickets to come to see the players (so the players is the product that made money for the organizers).

All the Grand Slams and TMS don't play appearance fees to players.

liS@
09-07-2003, 05:56 AM
Thanks for clearing that out Vera!! :)