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Are the American women more talented than the American men?

Haute
10-08-2005, 10:25 PM
This is something that I've been thinking about for awhile. Consider that of active players, there are only 2 men who are Slam winners, and there are 4 women who are Slam winners (I'm still considering Capriati to be active). There are also 8 men in the top 100, compared to 11 women in the top 100.

Do you think this is a result of it being easier for the women to have more success, or that they really are more talented than the men?

ClaycourtaZzZz.
10-08-2005, 10:27 PM
of course, most of the women are looking like men anyway:devil:

Federerhingis
10-08-2005, 10:28 PM
I wouldnt say they are more talented rather that they are more successful on their tour.

its.like.that
10-12-2005, 07:27 AM
in answer to the question:

for sure, Harkleroad and Sharapova are way more talented than the Williams brothers and Davenhorse.

ServeAlready81
10-12-2005, 08:06 AM
in answer to the question:

for sure, Harkleroad and Sharapova are way more talented than the Williams brothers and Davenhorse.

Oh that's mature :rolleyes: Anyway, I don't think the women are more talented. I just think it's harder for the top players on the men's side to be as dominant as the top players on the women's side. The events on clay tell the biggest story.

Experimentee
10-12-2005, 08:27 AM
They are not more talented. Its just that, at this current time, there are more successful American women than men. That could change in a few years. Some of the greatest players of the 90's were American men.

its.like.that
10-12-2005, 08:29 AM
Oh that's mature :rolleyes: Anyway, I don't think the women are more talented. I just think it's harder for the top players on the men's side to be as dominant as the top players on the women's side. The events on clay tell the biggest story.

The Russian women are better than the yank women, the Russian men are better than the yank men.

'nuff said.

MariaV
10-12-2005, 09:55 AM
The Russian women are better than the yank women, the Russian men are better than the yank men.

'nuff said.
Very mature indeed Jim. Have you been getting some 'help' from Russian dope dealing swim coaches?

its.like.that
10-12-2005, 10:11 AM
Very mature indeed Jim. Have you been getting some 'help' from Russian dope dealing swim coaches?

Unfortunately Gennadi is still based in Swizerland I believe, and his void has yet to be filled in here. Australia is overrun with somewhat defunct British and Canadian swim coaches, who of course are less eccentric, far too laid back and unable to handle as much as alcohol as their Russian counterparts - which ultimately detracts from overall performance.

Nobody produces coaches quite like the Russians.

MariaV
10-12-2005, 10:13 AM
Unfortunately Gennadi is still based in Swizerland I believe, and his void has yet to be filled in here. Australia is overrun with somewhat defunct British and Canadian swim coaches, who of course are less eccentric, far too laid back and unable to handle as much as alcohol as their Russian counterparts - which ultimately detracts from overall performance.

Nobody produces coaches quite like the Russians.
:lol: :wavey:

Erm but seriously, how about the doping they hand out?

its.like.that
10-12-2005, 10:15 AM
by the way Maria - are you Estonian? or do you just have some form of unfounded love for the Estonian flag?

I visited to Estonia when I was much younger - we travelled through Parnu, Hapsalu, Paldiski and of course Tallinn (forgive my spelling).

its.like.that
10-12-2005, 10:17 AM
:lol: :wavey:

Erm but seriously, how about the doping they hand out?

what's that got to do with anything? the Americans are way better at it than the Russkis, and they don't do it with half the class.

MariaV
10-12-2005, 10:20 AM
by the way Maria - are you Estonian? or do you just have some form of unfounded love for the Estonian flag?

I visited to Estonia when I was much younger - we travelled through Parnu, Hapsalu, Paldiski and of course Tallinn (forgive my spelling).
:eek: :eek: :eek: You have been here? The spelling's quite OK, you remember all the names of the places, WOW!!!!!!!!!!! :D
LOL, I live in Tallinn and I'm Estonian indeed. And I like the flag, one of the few things I like about Estonia. ;)

MariaV
10-12-2005, 10:22 AM
what's that got to do with anything? the Americans are way better at it than the Russkis, and they don't do it with half the class.
I see, I was just curious. You sure have better insight on the issue. :D

its.like.that
10-12-2005, 10:40 AM
I see, I was just curious. You sure have better insight on the issue. :D

I don't know of any Russian swimmers who have been done for doping, and the thing is that most the swimmers live abroad and therefore have to comply with their residential country's drug testing procedures - so you can't really blame it on a Russian cover-up :p either.

On the other hand, many US swimmers have been caught red handed, receiving nothing more than a temporary ban outside of any major competition. Many of these swimmers went on to dominate at the Atlanta Olympics - the likes of Jenny Thompson, Amy van Dyken, and a few others in the US women's team. And on this, the Chinese swimming federation is probably even worse than the American one.

Interestingly enough, I don't think I can recall a male swimmer being done for performance enhancing drugs - other than a handful of guys who tested positive for marijuana :lol:.

Haute
10-13-2005, 10:48 PM
Oh that's mature :rolleyes: Anyway, I don't think the women are more talented. I just think it's harder for the top players on the men's side to be as dominant as the top players on the women's side. The events on clay tell the biggest story.

But shouldn't the American men be able to have a decent showing at least on the clay if they're more talented? What is this, 2 or 3 years in a row where an American man hasn't made it past the third round at Roland Garros?

Chris Seahorse
10-13-2005, 11:35 PM
I don't get this thread at all. Way it looks to me America is relatively weak on both sides at the moment. There are three players of a top 10 standard in the Women's game and two in the Men's game. The 4th ranked US Woman is at 49. The men's game do have 3 relatively young players who should be around a few more years ranked between 21 and 33. Besides that lot there is very little depth from the Men or the Women. With Agassi and Davenport clearly not likely to carry on too much longer and the fitness and motivation of the Williams sisters questionable American tennis looks to be entering a dark period indeed but with Roddick, Blake, Dent and Ginepri still with quite a few years to go the American Men should have a brighter future than the women I think, who have no one at all behind Davenport and the Williams sisters. Oh by the way I do not consider Capriati active. She hasn't played for over a year with a serious shoulder injury and at the age of almost 30 I would put the odds of a return to even the top 50 at being very low.

El Legenda
10-13-2005, 11:48 PM
they are still only good for sex and cooking....and cleaning :lol: ;)