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Most cocky/arrogant player(s) ever ?

prima donna
10-07-2005, 05:16 PM
Came across an article on Bill Tilden and started thinking, hm, has there ever been anyone quite that egotistical within the last couple of decades ?
(Article on Tilden:
The play was the thing for Tilden but the more he won the more his other weaknesses showed. He would arrogantly hold four balls in his hand at once, serve three aces and then throw the fourth aside and walk away, a move many opponents naturally found distasteful. "All of his personal liabilities were accentuated by his success," said Tilden's friend Carl Fisher.
I'd say that Rios is about the closest thing to cocky & arrogant, downright nasty that I can think of. Tilden was arrogant, but at the same time quite effeminate it seems. Well, also, let's add in Greg Rusedski. Also, Jimmy Connors.
I'm thinking there are 2 types of arrogance
A). Macho Arrogance
B). Snotty Arrogance

If anyone were to ever call Roger arrogant, we would have to say he does it in a clever & underhanded fashion, making remarks like "I enjoy playing Andy and not because I win all the time", as opposed to a moron like Rusedski calling Pete Sampras washed up or a shadow of him old self. Where does a player like Greg Rusedski get off calling a legend washed up ?

Seriously, every player is arrogant, we must admit... to an extent. How can you be playing at this level and not develop some type of an ego ?

cecilija
10-07-2005, 05:21 PM
John "Big Mouth" Mcenroe

prima donna
10-07-2005, 05:28 PM
John "Big Mouth" Mcenroe
How could I forget this one? Hmm, I saw his displays more so of an act of childishness than an act of arrogance. Arrogance has some beauty and art to it, his ramblings and hissy fits were apalling.

curlgirl3
10-07-2005, 06:58 PM
Coria, now he's arrogant!

Phunkadelicious
10-07-2005, 07:00 PM
I think of active players, Rusedski gets my vote, of all time, i'd have to go with Connors

cincy
10-07-2005, 07:18 PM
The play was the thing for Tilden but the more he won the more his other weaknesses showed. He would arrogantly hold four balls in his hand at once, serve three aces and then throw the fourth aside and walk away, a move many opponents naturally found distasteful. "All of his personal liabilities were accentuated by his success," said Tilden's friend Carl Fisher.

No wonder Tilden died alone and penniless. :rolleyes: [Well, also because he was gay and a convicted felon, child molestor. :devil: ]

I think Connors and Rios take the prize for most arrogant. I don't think Coria is actually arrogant, just not very smart.

*Viva Chile*
10-07-2005, 07:49 PM
Jimmy Connors and John McEnroe

shotgun
10-07-2005, 07:55 PM
Lleyton Hewitt. :p

Clara Bow
10-07-2005, 08:14 PM
Jimmy Connors is the most cocky player that I can recall in my lifetime of 27 years. Agassi had some cockiness in my mind when he was younger (and I loved it at the time), but outgrew it. Connors never did.

I sometimes think that Hewitt stradles the line between confident and cocky, but I tend to think of him as more as just very confident.

I adore Federer, but I do think that he can sometimes be arrogant, but in the best way possible. Meaning that he is a realist who understands the magnitute of his success and skills. He has almost an aristocratic arrogance sometimes - and I don't really think that's a bad thing. I think his arrogance in a way is built out of his being true and not falsely modest. And not to split hairs- but I think that there can be a difference between arrogance and cockiness and while I think that Feds can be sometimes slightly arrogant- I don't think that he is cocky.

Rios could be quite arrogant- but it suited him.

Lendl could be a little smug at times.

Tilden sounds like he was quite a character and really did things to get under his skin. A book I have on the 1920s says:

It was typical of Big Bill to link tennis and the theater, the two worlds he loved most. Purists might complain that he did too much acting on the court- holding aloft an injured finger or playing with his sweater on for a set or two before peeling it off for the blazing finish. :lol:

Tilden and Suzanne Lenglen must have been handfulls in the '20s.

Rex
10-07-2005, 08:21 PM
i would say McEnroe but of the modern players today i would say murray

Jenrios
10-07-2005, 08:28 PM
I'd say that Rios is about the closest thing to cocky & arrogant, downright nasty that I can think of.

oh come on! when you're that talented you can make tennis look easy, and it can be perceived as atrrogance. I think you read too much Sports Illustrated. All champions are arrogant to a degree - no one goes on court humble. Most unpleasantly arrogant was Johnny Mac, cloesly followed by Boris Becker - just his whole body language.

Castafiore
10-07-2005, 08:28 PM
I would say Jimmy Connors.

Did anybody see that interview a couple of months ago on BBC World with that retired umpire from Wimbledon (sorry, can't remember his name)?
He was asked who was the most terrible to work with as an umpire: McEnroe or Connors.
The umpire said Connors. Both of them would complain a lot to the umpires but McEnroe was always direct and in your face. If he didn't like something, he didn't mess around with his words but he would just say it to you directly. Connors would say one thing to you and then turn his back on you and make all sorts of gestures. You never knew where you stood with Connors contrary to McEnroe.

Jenrios
10-07-2005, 08:31 PM
Lendl liked to create an aura about him to intimidate. Coria is arrogant as well, in a 'nasty' way.

Jenrios
10-07-2005, 08:37 PM
yes, Connors could be downright rude and nasty - bullying.

Jelena
10-07-2005, 09:19 PM
Of the guys I personally got to know there's no one more arrogant than Coria. About the others I don't want to say anything

curlgirl3
10-07-2005, 09:20 PM
jimmy gets high

euroka1
10-07-2005, 09:30 PM
Todays guys can be pretty bad but none compare in awfullness with Jimmy C. or Johnny Mac in their prime.

Rafa = Fed Killa
10-07-2005, 11:58 PM
Andy Murray

NYCtennisfan
10-08-2005, 12:02 AM
oh come on! when you're that talented you can make tennis look easy, and it can be perceived as atrrogance. I think you read too much Sports Illustrated. All champions are arrogant to a degree - no one goes on court humble. Most unpleasantly arrogant was Johnny Mac, cloesly followed by Boris Becker - just his whole body language.

So a gifted Rios is excused but a gifted McEnroe and Becker aren't? For the record, I didn't find Rios all that arrogant on court.

Connors, McEnroe, and Lendl take the cake for me.

*Viva Chile*
10-08-2005, 12:58 AM
I didn't find Rios arrogant at all... I think it's the impression that the press always want to make of him :rolleyes:

Federerhingis
10-08-2005, 02:55 AM
I think of active players, Rusedski gets my vote, of all time, i'd have to go with Connors

Good options, Rusedski seriously hes got some serious attitude problems. :rolleyes: He's not even good looking nor a great player to boast on what ever he believes gives him this sense of superiority.

TennisGrandSlam
10-08-2005, 02:09 PM
Lleyton Hewitt. :p


of course :cool:

uNIVERSE mAN
10-08-2005, 03:02 PM
Rios

vamos argentina1
10-08-2005, 03:26 PM
Lendl liked to create an aura about him to intimidate. Coria is arrogant as well, in a 'nasty' way.

whats wrong with coria if i may ask?

Horatio Caine
10-08-2005, 04:10 PM
Hewitt - I still remember when he said that Wimbledon 2005 was a 2-horse race between him and Federer.

Well...he lost to Karlovic 2 weeks before...and would he have beaten Grosjean, Johansson T / J or Roddick???

mini155
10-08-2005, 04:16 PM
whats wrong with coria if i may ask?

I don´t like his appearance, but I wouldn´t call him arrogant as Andy Roddick, who is in my opinion the player with the worst attitude on the tour....

prima donna
10-08-2005, 05:15 PM
Andy Roddick isn't arrogant, he's simply pure trash and classless. He fits the stereotype of your typical American. He's a joke, I've disliked him from Day 1 because of his temper tantrums and lack of sportsmanship, only recently has he started to behave as a human as opposed to something out of the movie 'Planet of the Apes'

I suppose that Roger is to credit for Andy being reduced to this.
:p

Jenrios
10-08-2005, 07:49 PM
So a gifted Rios is excused but a gifted McEnroe and Becker aren't? For the record, I didn't find Rios all that arrogant on court.

Connors, McEnroe, and Lendl take the cake for me.


I'm trying to work out how anyone could think Rios was arrogant on court - and I'm guessing that it could be the way he made tennis look so easy, because of his talent, that gave this impression. I don't recall Rios bullying umpires and swearing as profusely as Mac, or using his personality to put off rivals when he was playing, or even using the 'do you know who I am?' attitude. All done by Mac. Becker, IMO, is not exceptionally talented:)

Jenrios
10-08-2005, 07:50 PM
whats wrong with coria if i may ask?

you watch Coria, you know what he does in matches - putting off opponents, trying to influence the line people, umpire, faking injuries - that kind of stuff. Maybe cocky and arrogant aren't the right words - I apologise - I should have put him in the most unplesant player thread.

bjorn4tennis92
10-08-2005, 11:06 PM
americans get too cocky except for agassi, lleyton ofcourse, and then rafa but hes cool

Corey Feldman
10-09-2005, 03:00 AM
Rusedski - his trashing of Sampras after losing to him at the 2002 U.S Open must be one of the all time egg on your face moments ever

coria, hewitt, safin, ljubicic all have a bit of cocky/arrogance in them as well.