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name top 5 unproffesinal tennis players who have not always gave 100%

skel1983
10-06-2005, 03:23 PM
1.N.Massu
2.N.Kiefer
3.J.Melzer
4.R.Soderling
5.M.Ancic

I Have seen these guys on a few occasions throw in the towel with no effort what so ever, which for me should be granted fine or ban!!!!

tall_one
10-06-2005, 04:39 PM
1. Marat - i love the guy to death, but he drives me nuts sometimes when he just quits trying. Marat has been fined for tanking, has anyone else? I do think banning someone is far too harsh.

Galaxystorm
10-06-2005, 04:46 PM
Can i repeat Feliciano Lopez 5 times ??? Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee :baby:

prima donna
10-06-2005, 04:48 PM
Kafelinkov (Tanking matches, involved in Match Fixing)
Safin

Ironically, both come from an Eastern-European background, coincidence ? I think not. :D

Money and sex seems to be the main focus...

Oh, also ... Coria. He admitted to tanking matches because he missed his GF back in Argentina ....

There's a load of players, but Kafelnikov, Safin & Coria are the 3 that come to mind.

fabolous
10-06-2005, 05:24 PM
Marcelo Rios, though it got much better at the end of his career.

adee-gee
10-06-2005, 05:28 PM
I disagree about Soderling.

Safin is the main culprit.

cecilija
10-06-2005, 05:33 PM
gaudio , chucho acasuso, malisse,

i think massu always give his best in all matches except in miami 04 againt pavel where he recived a warning for not trying to play

cecilija
10-06-2005, 05:34 PM
but that is not coz these players do not want to win but they are not too strong of mind and have probems to fight in matches

cecilija
10-06-2005, 05:34 PM
how the hell i could forget Iralki labadze

adee-gee
10-06-2005, 05:36 PM
gaudio , chucho acasuso, malisse,

i think massu always give his best in all matches except in miami 04 againt pavel where he recived a warning for not trying to play

+ against Henman TMS Cincinnati this year. One of the most appaling and shameful tanks I've ever seen

LaTenista
10-06-2005, 05:37 PM
Jiri Novak. How ironic he was last player to defeat Fed in a final.

LaTenista
10-06-2005, 05:39 PM
+ against Henman TMS Cincinnati this year. One of the most appaling and shameful tanks I've ever seen

I attended a bit of this match. Absolutely :eek:, he was attempting to serve and volley against Tim :retard:.

adee-gee
10-06-2005, 05:43 PM
I attended a bit of this match. Absolutely :eek:, he was attempting to serve and volley against Tim :retard:.

It was seriously the worst effort I've ever seen a pro give. He just wanted to get off the court as quickly as possible.

lorenz
10-06-2005, 05:49 PM
Gaudio and Acasuso.

Coria?? I'm not so sure. I think that his mind doesn't want to get off the court, but ... he is no the same guy since the final of RG 2004

cecilija
10-06-2005, 05:52 PM
your right i forgot about that match. even now i remember more pathetic matches of his
against kiefer in cinci this year or against melzer in hamburg last year :tape:

+ against Henman TMS Cincinnati this year. One of the most appaling and shameful tanks I've ever seen

G_Hughes
10-06-2005, 05:54 PM
Verdasco : The number 1 in the list. No doubts about it. Sometimes talent without sacrifice produces this kind of players . Daddy´s boy as he is , he doesn´t like to effort at all. It´s a shame, he is such a nice guy but his performance in US OPEN 2005 4th round against Nieminen should be available for all this " ATP stars wannabes " titled " things to avoid in a important match. He´ll grow up and sooner or later will become a huge player
Gaudio : In the past he didn´t want to play many matches and didn´t give a shit about them. Still happens nowadays like he did in TMS Rome this year against David Ferrer . He´s in love and guys do weird and stupid things when they´re in love. Figure out this combination
Acasuso : I saw one of the biggest tankings ever this year. In a late night match in Barcelone against Wawrinka with 50 spectators as a maximum he told his coach " me importa un carajo este partido , estoy podrido " which means " I don´t give a shit for this match, I´m fed up " . He lost double 6-3
Feliciano López : Another classic. This " party animal " went to many matches already thinking about banging some of the hostess of the tournament. He loses faith easily and moreover loves too much the tennis backstage.........
Fernando Gonzalez : Sometimes Gonzo can be funnier than a Seinfeld episode. He talks all the time to De la Peña ( his coach ) and hits winners from everywhere, most of them go out by far but some are the greatest shots you´ll ever see live. Gonzo is a MUST everywhere you, if he´s playing and in a bad mood go to that court, you´ll never regret doing that.

cecilija
10-06-2005, 05:58 PM
you think that coz u have not saw gaudio

gaudio had have the worst three matches i ve ever seen in a player

1)against ferrer in roma 05 lost 6-0 6-1
2)against ferrero in davis cup 03 lost 6-4 6-0 6-0
3)against gambill in uso 02 lost 6-0 6-2 6-0}


It was seriously the worst effort I've ever seen a pro give. He just wanted to get off the court as quickly as possible.

cecilija
10-06-2005, 06:01 PM
horna and nalbandian deserve a mention in this thread

basil333
10-06-2005, 06:02 PM
Ferrer
Puerta
Labadze
Gaudio (sorry)

Agassi - for his "off court" un-professional-ness - Tournament Director's nightmare pulling out at midnight constantly before the draw takes place...

adee-gee
10-06-2005, 06:04 PM
horna and nalbandian deserve a mention in this thread

Horna is one of the biggest fighters on the tour :eek:

JMG
10-06-2005, 06:05 PM
Nalbandian stopped playing against Schüttler in Halle. Then of course Kafelnikov (many matches) and Gaudio like it was mentioned before.

michelleg
10-06-2005, 06:06 PM
Ok even I dont like to show up for work every day, dont give 100%. Especially with a hangover! It makes me human.

And if we could stop putting people up on these high pedestals for a moment, we would realize that they are not machines and simply cannot be expected to perform 100% day in and day out.....because they too, are human.

cecilija
10-06-2005, 06:06 PM
lol no mate he is not
i do not know who told u that


Horna is one of the biggest fighters on the tour :eek:

Rex
10-06-2005, 06:23 PM
i dunno- that type of thing doesnt cross my mind often---but ill go with safin----he is the only guy i have seen do it.

LaTenista
10-06-2005, 06:26 PM
Ferrer


Examples please. And don't even try to use getting bagelled by Nadal at RG this year, David had a back injury.

cecilija
10-06-2005, 06:33 PM
lost to aldi 6-2 6-2 in palermo last week
Examples please. And don't even try to use getting bagelled by Nadal at RG this year, David had a back injury.

cecilija
10-06-2005, 06:36 PM
but that is not usual in him
i think he always give his best
lost to aldi 6-2 6-2 in palermo last week

adee-gee
10-06-2005, 06:44 PM
lol no mate he is not
i do not know who told u that

I've seen it with my own eyes. Horna is one of the biggest fighters on the tour. Tell me a match he hasn't given 110%

LaTenista
10-06-2005, 06:45 PM
but that is not usual in him
i think he always give his best

He had a knee injury. He ended up pulling out of the doubles because of it.

Truc
10-06-2005, 06:52 PM
Coria?? I'm not so sure.Oh yes, Coria tanks matches. For example in 's Hertogenbosh against Hernych. He couldn't care less and didn't make any effort.

basil333
10-06-2005, 07:23 PM
Examples please. And don't even try to use getting bagelled by Nadal at RG this year, David had a back injury.

I really did not appreciate the way he treated Mariano when he got seriously injured in Monte Carlo. His manner on court was un-professional. He did not even go up to check if Mariano was ok -

Some friends were also at that match - front row - behind the umpire... they gave me a full account of what Sky sports didnt show...

He was just un-professional in his actions - unlike Rainer Schuettler (sp) when Wayne Ferriera was injured, Rainer was there icing him down before the trainer was even on the court.

jole
10-06-2005, 07:30 PM
I really did not appreciate the way he treated Mariano when he got seriously injured in Monte Carlo. His manner on court was un-professional. He did not even go up to check if Mariano was ok -

Some friends were also at that match - front row - behind the umpire... they gave me a full account of what Sky sports didnt show...

He was just un-professional in his actions - unlike Rainer Schuettler (sp) when Wayne Ferriera was injured, Rainer was there icing him down before the trainer was even on the court.

Ferrer can bitch and moan, and throw his racquet with the best of them :D

Generally though, he continues to fight and try.

Chris Seahorse
10-06-2005, 08:42 PM
Labadze, Kiefer, Malisse, N Lapentti and Grosjean all come to mind but no one out does the Russians when it comes to tanking. Kafelnikov set the example and Safin, Youzhny, Davydenko, Andreev all follow.

Galaxystorm
10-06-2005, 09:19 PM
Verdasco : The number 1 in the list. No doubts about it. Sometimes talent without sacrifice produces this kind of players . Daddy´s boy as he is , he doesn´t like to effort at all. It´s a shame, he is such a nice guy but his performance in US OPEN 2005 4th round against Nieminen should be available for all this " ATP stars wannabes " titled " things to avoid in a important match. He´ll grow up and sooner or later will become a huge player

Verdasco in that match against Nieminen showed a pathetic lack of attitude ,even he seemed to be a stoned person ..... but what people doesn't Know ( :secret: ) is that the day before he had broken up with his girlfriend and his state of mind was very bad , he was very affected.

LaTenista
10-07-2005, 02:29 AM
Verdasco in that match against Nieminen showed a pathetic lack of attitude ,even he seemed to be a stoned person ..... but what people doesn't Know ( :secret: ) is that the day before he had broken up with his girlfriend and his state of mind was very bad , he was very affected.

Nando dumped Daphne? They were very cute together and looked so happy. :sad:

Billabong
10-07-2005, 02:32 AM
Marat:o

LaTenista
10-07-2005, 02:48 AM
I really did not appreciate the way he treated Mariano when he got seriously injured in Monte Carlo. His manner on court was un-professional. He did not even go up to check if Mariano was ok -

Some friends were also at that match - front row - behind the umpire... they gave me a full account of what Sky sports didnt show...

He was just un-professional in his actions - unlike Rainer Schuettler (sp) when Wayne Ferriera was injured, Rainer was there icing him down before the trainer was even on the court.

First, Ferrer is not Rainer Schuettler. He's very shy. What Rainer did was above and beyond what a player is expected to do in that situation, :hatoff: to him for that but it doesn't change standards.

Second, I believe the professional thing to do when your opponent is injured is to wait quietly while the trainer comes and works on the injury. I could see if perhaps David was arguing with the chair ump or getting in his opponent's face or what have you that would have been unprofessional. But you describe nothing like that.

I would also like to point out that just 2 weeks before the Zabaleta match, Malisse had his "episode" at Miami whilst David was playing him in which a linesperson got hit with a ball and there was supposed language used. Any inclination David may have had to try to help was probably suppressed because of Xavier's behavior.

Plastic Bertrand
10-07-2005, 05:10 AM
you think that coz u have not saw gaudio

gaudio had have the worst three matches i ve ever seen in a player

1)against ferrer in roma 05 lost 6-0 6-1
2)against ferrero in davis cup 03 lost 6-4 6-0 6-0
3)against gambill in uso 02 lost 6-0 6-2 6-0}

He did not try in match 1 and 3, whereas in match 2 he did. People do not tank Davis Cup matches especially if they are live matches, and are you aware of the circumstances that he was in when he went to Malaga. No, I didn't think so.

Kristen
10-07-2005, 05:21 AM
Schuettler df Gaston Gaudio 76(5) 60 Sydney International, 2003. R16.
Disgusted me, and put me off him ever since. Gaudio had a call which he thought was against him (but the crowd seemed to think it was ok) Ten minutes of bitching and moaning until the tournament referee came out. Replayed the point (or the match would have never resumed) and Schuettler got it anyway.

Oli Rochus df Radek Stepanek 60 63
I can't describe it. Just a really shitty match. I expected much more from Radek.

LOL, skel...Jurgen. He's a funny one. I won't include him in here. Not because he's a favourite, but out of all my guys, he's the only one I have faith in to turn a match around. He can get pretty low in his matches, but luckily for me...I haven't seen it. :)

basil333
10-07-2005, 07:47 AM
Second, I believe the professional thing to do when your opponent is injured is to wait quietly while the trainer comes and works on the injury. I could see if perhaps David was arguing with the chair ump or getting in his opponent's face or what have you that would have been unprofessional. But you describe nothing like that.
.

He laughed and joked and celebrated his "win" like he had won a gold medal and laughed and joked with people when he was signing autographs while Mariano was limping off the court. I have this on tape...

He showed no respect to his injured opponent... no courtesy, no professionalism.

LaTenista
10-07-2005, 12:49 PM
He laughed and joked and celebrated his "win" like he had won a gold medal and laughed and joked with people when he was signing autographs while Mariano was limping off the court. I have this on tape...

He showed no respect to his injured opponent... no courtesy, no professionalism.

:shrug: A win is a win. I'm sure he's not the first to celebrate after an opponent has retired. But what happens after a match is called is not a valid argument for this thread, as it's about what players did/didn't do during the match that caused us to believe they were not putting forth 100% effort. It was very unfortunate about Zab's injury, Ferrer has had some too in the last few months. :sad:

Add Spadea to the list. He retired against Arazi at Cincy in 2004 after going down a break in the 3rd set...he was playing good until that point, then he just decided to give up and retire. :rolleyes: :o Put me off him until he managed a win against Nadal in Madrid about 2 months later.

basil333
10-07-2005, 01:10 PM
LaTenista - it looks like you will defend David no matter what I say - which is a good thing as I would do the same regarding my favourite.

the title of this thread mentioned 100% unprofessionalism... in my humble opinion David was unprofessional in his respect to his fellow player, the least he could have done was a simple - are ok ok mate? - but no there was none - just the gloating - which was out of place again in my humble opinion.

Basically other people have chosen other players too - as you asked me to give a reason for choosing him - I gave my reason. I do think David is unprofessional, and acts unprofessionally in OTHER matches I have seen him play in, its amusing that nearly every game I have seen him play live in, he manages to score Penalty Point too,

I will not change my mind - but your arguements were good.

LaTenista
10-07-2005, 03:47 PM
LaTenista - it looks like you will defend David no matter what I say - which is a good thing as I would do the same regarding my favourite.

the title of this thread mentioned 100% unprofessionalism... in my humble opinion David was unprofessional in his respect to his fellow player, the least he could have done was a simple - are ok ok mate? - but no there was none - just the gloating - which was out of place again in my humble opinion.

Basically other people have chosen other players too - as you asked me to give a reason for choosing him - I gave my reason. I do think David is unprofessional, and acts unprofessionally in OTHER matches I have seen him play in, its amusing that nearly every game I have seen him play live in, he manages to score Penalty Point too,

I will not change my mind - but your arguements were good.

I have been to all David's matches at Cincy (He's only been coming since 2004), and yes, he does get ball abuse warnings/penalties and he throws his racquet, but I have never seen him do anything disrespectful to any of his opponents.

BTW Just found out this morning, Zabaleta punched Soderling during a match, no wonder Ferrer wasn't running to help him when he got injured. Seems pretty unprofessional to me. :eek:

Kristen
10-07-2005, 03:51 PM
haha Zabaleta probably just earned a hundred fans, with that Soderling comment :lol:

basil333
10-07-2005, 07:35 PM
I was at that match too :) - and he didnt punch him... the umpire got between them "just" in time :) - basically Soderling insisted on checking every single line call, and it was raining and even the Umpire was getting very pi**ed off with him (Soderling) - and when they were walking back to the net Soderling checked it again - and Mariano went for him... he had had enough!

One line call or maybe even 10 per match is ok - but 50+ in the miserable mist is enough to try the patience of a saint

Yes I was there! - and so was Chela, and the girlfriends and nearly all of the Argentinians - all watching the match in Hamburg in the rain.

basil333
10-07-2005, 07:42 PM
he spent 15 minutes with the Umpire after the match - (the umpire was friendly with him) and he was still shaking when he came off the court - in shock as to what he "nearly" did - he had a group of about 15 children round him, and he spent the time with them, signing and making a fuss of them - and I spoke to him after he had finished with the children and asked him if he was ok.... he was still shaking and said.... yes... it was a tough match.... tough match.... tough match....

jole
10-07-2005, 07:43 PM
I was at that match too :) - and he didnt punch him... the umpire got between them "just" in time :) - basically Soderling insisted on checking every single line call, and it was raining and even the Umpire was getting very pi**ed off with him (Soderling) - and when they were walking back to the net Soderling checked it again - and Mariano went for him... he had had enough!

One line call or maybe even 10 per match is ok - but 50+ in the miserable mist is enough to try the patience of a saint

Yes I was there! - and so was Chela, and the girlfriends and nearly all of the Argentinians - all watching the match in Hamburg in the rain.

I've watched Ferrer play Soderling live. Let me tell you, there was as much whining, moaning, and racquet throwing as you'd imagine ;) It was like they were dueling each other not only with their tennis, but the way they acted between points.

basil333
10-07-2005, 07:55 PM
I had forgotten this incident :) - thanks for reminding me LaTenista - can I replace Gaudio with Soderling now :) - thanks

basil333
10-07-2005, 07:58 PM
LaTenista congratulations on your support of Ferrer since 2004 - I genuinely wish you well and hope for yourself and other Ferrer fans he has success.

LaTenista
10-07-2005, 09:54 PM
I was at that match too :) - and he didnt punch him... the umpire got between them "just" in time :) - basically Soderling insisted on checking every single line call, and it was raining and even the Umpire was getting very pi**ed off with him (Soderling) - and when they were walking back to the net Soderling checked it again - and Mariano went for him... he had had enough!

One line call or maybe even 10 per match is ok - but 50+ in the miserable mist is enough to try the patience of a saint

Yes I was there! - and so was Chela, and the girlfriends and nearly all of the Argentinians - all watching the match in Hamburg in the rain.

Our resident tennis expert GeorgeWHitler was talking about it over in the Metz score thread today. He said Zab punched Soderling in the stomach but it wasn't a full on fight. :shrug:

No players are saints... :devil:

Ferrer isn't my most favorite player (I believe I ranked him as 4th on the fave thread) but he seems to be the one who needs the most support lately.

You must go to a lot of tournaments, basis333. :) Cincinnati is the only ATP level event I've attended, it's really close for me - less than 15 minutes away.

zethand
10-07-2005, 10:18 PM
He laughed and joked and celebrated his "win" like he had won a gold medal and laughed and joked with people when he was signing autographs while Mariano was limping off the court. I have this on tape...

He showed no respect to his injured opponent... no courtesy, no professionalism.

Get out of here groupie..

cecilija
10-07-2005, 10:21 PM
asshole
Get out of here groupie..

yes_sir
10-08-2005, 12:36 AM
1. Phillippoussis
2. Llodra
3. Carlsen

NicoFan
10-08-2005, 01:16 AM
+ against Henman TMS Cincinnati this year. One of the most appaling and shameful tanks I've ever seen

Adeegee - we know you hate Nico... but even for you this is totally ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!! :haha: Anyone reading your post would be on the floor laughing. I know I am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :devil:

Were you at that match Adeegee sweetie? Geez, I was. I was there a couple of days before and watched Nico practiced a couple of times a day. He was focused and working hard. Why? Because he had 400 points to defend from the Olympics the year before. So tank the match???? HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, darling, he was totally nervous with everything at stake, and yeah, his tactics s*cked...tried to serve and volley against Tim. But until the end, he was fighting. He knew he was losing, and got totally frustrated. Again, I was there, in the 2nd row. Where were you? Sitting in your chair following it on the internet????????????? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, he did tank a match once...like Cecilijia said - the Pavel match. But geez, once in a long career...not too shabby a record. ;)

Anyone that watched Nico during the Olympics knows he's a fighter.

Really...totally absurd post....shows how little you know about Nico...but as usual for GM in MTF... ;)

+alonso
10-08-2005, 01:22 AM
NF :hug:

NicoFan
10-08-2005, 01:29 AM
NF :hug:

Alonso: :hug:

If they want to hate Nico, they should at least try to KNOW something about him!!!!!!!!!!!!! :devil: Just so funny... :haha: Sitting at my computer lmao. ;)

+alonso
10-08-2005, 01:36 AM
True! This is why i argued with ppl..

Sparko1030
10-08-2005, 02:20 AM
Ok even I dont like to show up for work every day, dont give 100%. Especially with a hangover! It makes me human.

And if we could stop putting people up on these high pedestals for a moment, we would realize that they are not machines and simply cannot be expected to perform 100% day in and day out.....because they too, are human.


I agree 100% Michelleg!!! These players play week after week and if once in awhile they don't seem to be at their best, well who is every day????


Just as I thought this is another great hate thread!!! What is fun is finding some of the biggest haters having to defend their own favorites. I would defend my favorites but considering who dissing them its not necessary. :devil:

Sparko1030
10-08-2005, 02:24 AM
Adeegee - we know you hate Nico... but even for you this is totally ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!! :haha: Anyone reading your post would be on the floor laughing. I know I am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :devil:

Were you at that match Adeegee sweetie? Geez, I was. I was there a couple of days before and watched Nico practiced a couple of times a day. He was focused and working hard. Why? Because he had 400 points to defend from the Olympics the year before. So tank the match???? HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, darling, he was totally nervous with everything at stake, and yeah, his tactics s*cked...tried to serve and volley against Tim. But until the end, he was fighting. He knew he was losing, and got totally frustrated. Again, I was there, in the 2nd row. Where were you? Sitting in your chair following it on the internet????????????? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, he did tank a match once...like Cecilijia said - the Pavel match. But geez, once in a long career...not too shabby a record. ;)

Anyone that watched Nico during the Olympics knows he's a fighter.

Really...totally absurd post....shows how little you know about Nico...but as usual for GM in MTF... ;)

I'm not alllowed to good rep you yet Nicofan but you rock!!! :rocker2:

NicoFan
10-08-2005, 02:33 AM
Thanks Sparko for quoting Michelle - I missed that post.

So true about putting the players on pedestals. These guys are in their teens and are 20 something year olds. They live in a very insular and sheltered world. And there is so much pressure on them to do well, and if anyone has gone to many tournaments, they know how immature these guys can be at times (last part said with love...lol!).

Yet again...for the umpteen millionth time...so much judgmentalism against these guys. Its so bizarre - people expect them to play perfectly and act perfectly 100% of the time. Talk about unreasonable expectations.

As if they themselves (the posters) are 100% perfect all the time... ;)

If the posters are under 18, I'll give them a pass. If they are in their 20s, I'll shrug my shoulders and shake my head, and hope they grow up. But if they are in their 30s and over - no excuses - they should know better than to put players on pedestals at their ages.

Action Jackson
10-08-2005, 08:36 AM
Get out of here groupie..

Excuse me how is someone watching a particular tennis match a groupie and it was only referring to the Ferrer and Zabaleta match?

Action Jackson
10-08-2005, 08:44 AM
I've been called alot worse... think this one's quite funny...

We should compare notes then?

basil333
10-08-2005, 08:45 AM
:)

Zethand - sorry I am staying...

Action Jackson
10-08-2005, 08:49 AM
Verdasco : The number 1 in the list. No doubts about it. Sometimes talent without sacrifice produces this kind of players . Daddy´s boy as he is , he doesn´t like to effort at all. It´s a shame, he is such a nice guy but his performance in US OPEN 2005 4th round against Nieminen should be available for all this " ATP stars wannabes " titled " things to avoid in a important match. He´ll grow up and sooner or later will become a huge player
Gaudio : In the past he didn´t want to play many matches and didn´t give a shit about them. Still happens nowadays like he did in TMS Rome this year against David Ferrer . He´s in love and guys do weird and stupid things when they´re in love. Figure out this combination
Acasuso : I saw one of the biggest tankings ever this year. In a late night match in Barcelone against Wawrinka with 50 spectators as a maximum he told his coach " me importa un carajo este partido , estoy podrido " which means " I don´t give a shit for this match, I´m fed up " . He lost double 6-3
Feliciano López : Another classic. This " party animal " went to many matches already thinking about banging some of the hostess of the tournament. He loses faith easily and moreover loves too much the tennis backstage.........
Fernando Gonzalez : Sometimes Gonzo can be funnier than a Seinfeld episode. He talks all the time to De la Peña ( his coach ) and hits winners from everywhere, most of them go out by far but some are the greatest shots you´ll ever see live. Gonzo is a MUST everywhere you, if he´s playing and in a bad mood go to that court, you´ll never regret doing that.

Hahaha and have experienced all of these guys showing some 'great' form at times.

LaLo, it's even worse when he wins.

Acasuso always has the same look on his face when he is winning or losing, and looks like he is stoned.

Gaudio has had some bizarre matches, and the one in Rome it started straight away, the whole lights from the scoreboard, it was funny, not professional, but funny.

Aphex
10-08-2005, 03:16 PM
I was at that match too :) - and he didnt punch him... the umpire got between them "just" in time :) - basically Soderling insisted on checking every single line call, and it was raining and even the Umpire was getting very pi**ed off with him (Soderling) - and when they were walking back to the net Soderling checked it again - and Mariano went for him... he had had enough!

One line call or maybe even 10 per match is ok - but 50+ in the miserable mist is enough to try the patience of a saint

Yes I was there! - and so was Chela, and the girlfriends and nearly all of the Argentinians - all watching the match in Hamburg in the rain.
:haha: The Toad, to know him is to love him. Argentina - Sweden in DC next year. Wilander better pick him, since he's already made so many friends among the Argies. :rolls:

zethand
10-08-2005, 05:44 PM
Excuse me how is someone watching a particular tennis match a groupie and it was only referring to the Ferrer and Zabaleta match?
:wavey: You are excused...
Dont ask me.. ask her. She wants to fuck Zabaleta that´s why she follows him around the world. That´s what I understand about the term: "groupie"

Jenrios
10-08-2005, 06:11 PM
well, I'd have to say most of my favs - Rios, Marat, Gaudio certainly - with Verdasco, I'd say it's not tanking, it's a lacxk of concentration more. Of course, lendl did it early in his career and turned it about:)

fenomeno2111
10-08-2005, 08:35 PM
Nadal is the last one on this list together with my good mate Hewitt....

its.like.that
10-12-2005, 06:32 AM
well by unprofessional, do you mean amateur?

in that case guys like Kunitsyn only seem to come out to play 2 weeks per year.

basil333
10-12-2005, 07:20 AM
:wavey: You are excused...
Dont ask me.. ask her. She wants to fuck Zabaleta that´s why she follows him around the world. That´s what I understand about the term: "groupie"

Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha :haha: :haha: :haha:

sorry my husband is also laughing at your post too.... :rolleyes:

I can 100% guarrantee that I definitely do not... not even in my wildest dreams....