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ja_som1
10-05-2005, 07:24 AM
Does anybody know if David plays on this tournament?

sigmagirl91
10-05-2005, 09:04 AM
He played last year and is on the entry list this year. Unless something has changed, he's going to be there.

ja_som1
10-05-2005, 09:32 AM
He played last year and is on the entry list this year. Unless something has changed, he's going to be there.
So I am going to book the tickets for me and I hope he will come and will be there till Sunday :)

jazz_girl
10-05-2005, 10:07 AM
He's been confirmed here for a long time, so unless he withdraws at the last minute, he'll be playing.

bovenbuuf
10-05-2005, 12:25 PM
So I am going to book the tickets for me and I hope he will come and will be there till Sunday :)
have fun at the tournement! :)

ja_som1
10-05-2005, 01:03 PM
have fun at the tournement! :)
thanks a lot, if david is there and will play till Sunday it will be nice time :) , nicer than on Davis CUp in Slovakia :crying2:

jazz_girl
10-07-2005, 11:23 AM
It looks like David will be the second seed, right after Nadal. Coria has withdrawn from the event.

sigmagirl91
10-07-2005, 11:36 AM
It looks like David will be the second seed, right after Nadal. Coria has withdrawn from the event.

I thought he was seeded third behind Nadal and Gaudio.

anna10
10-07-2005, 11:53 AM
Hi (I'm getting bold and adding a second forum to my posting répetoire so soon!); aren't seedings based on entry ranking, where Nalbandian is higher than Gaudio, rather than Masters Series race points?

justClaudia
10-07-2005, 12:24 PM
Hi Anna, welcome to David's Forum :hug:

Best of luck in Vienna, D. :)

jazz_girl
10-07-2005, 12:26 PM
I thought he was seeded third behind Nadal and Gaudio.
Gaudio is 11th in the ranking and David is 9th, Gastón can't be above David.

ja_som1
10-07-2005, 12:56 PM
Here is the list of all players and also how the players are seeded. Coria has been withdrawn only today. Before David was seeded as number 3.

Name Nation.
Berdych, Tomas CZE
Calleri, Agustin ARG
Ferrero, Juan Carlos (8) ESP
Gaudio, Gaston (3) ARG
Gonzalez, Fernando (7) CHI
Grosjean, Sebastien FRA
Haas, Tommy GER
Henman, Tim (WC) GBR
Horna, Luis PER
Kim, Kevin USA
Koubek, Stefan (WC) AUT
Ljubicic, Ivan (5) CRO
Lopez, Feliciano ESP
Marach, Oliver (WC) AUT
Mello, Ricardo BRA
Melzer, Jürgen AUT
Minar, Ivo CZE
Moya, Carlos ESP
Nadal, Rafael (1) ESP
Nalbandian, David (2) ARG
Novak, Jiri CZE
Robredo, Tommy (6) ESP
Seppi, Andreas ITA
Stepanek, Radek (4) CZE
Wawrinka, Stanislas SUI
Zib, Tomas CZE

gooner88
10-07-2005, 01:27 PM
I thought he was seeded third behind Nadal and Gaudio.

That was the case when the preliminary entry list was released before the U.S Open. Since then Nalbo has overtaken Gaudio in the rankings for the time being.
Nalbo being second seed means that I should get to see a few of his matches. :)

jazz_girl
10-07-2005, 02:02 PM
That was the case when the preliminary entry list was released before the U.S Open. Since then Nalbo has overtaken Gaudio in the rankings for the time being.
Nalbo being second seed means that I should get to see a few of his matches. :)
It means no Nadal at sight!

gooner88
10-07-2005, 02:14 PM
It means no Nadal at sight!

And that too! :lol:

ja_som1
10-07-2005, 03:02 PM
I have finally got the answer from viener stadthalle and they confirmed me that David will play. I am sooooooooo happy that I have the tickets. :)

Björki
10-07-2005, 03:03 PM
vamos David :bounce:

Yanina
10-07-2005, 03:24 PM
Come on davidddd!!! we want to see you playing again!!


Yani :wavey:

gooner88
10-07-2005, 03:25 PM
Rafa's pulled out according to the Vienna tourney thread.
Sounds like Nalbo is going to be Top seed in Vienna for the second year in a row.

Enjoy Vienna ja_som1. :)

Yanina
10-07-2005, 08:37 PM
woooooooowwww!!! Vamos david!!!

justClaudia
10-07-2005, 09:24 PM
Wow Rafa is out...Thanks Gooner :)
Ja_som1 - have fun at the tournament ;)

Kyla
10-07-2005, 09:44 PM
:woohoo: Nalby numero uno :woohoo:

:bounce:

I'm all packed, can hardly wait :D

rachelzszs
10-08-2005, 08:04 AM
Any new news?

jazz_girl
10-08-2005, 11:41 AM
Why not a qualy guy in the first round? :mad:

ARG/1) Nalbandian vs Grosjean (FRA)
Q vs Q
Lapentti (ECU) vs Seppi (ITA)
Wawrinka (SUI) vs Ferrero (ESP/7)

Stepanek (CZE) vs Horna (PER)
Henman (GBR/WC) vs Q
Novak (CZE) vs Marach (AUT/WC)
Peya (AUT/WC) vs Lopez (ESP/8)

Gonzales (CHI/6) vs Berdych (CZE)
Moya (ESP) vs Phau (GER)
Haas (GER) vs Zib (CZE)
Calleri (ARG) vs Ljubucic (CRO/4)

Robredo (ESP/5) vs Mello (BRA)
Minar (CZE) vs Kim (USA)
Koubek (AUT) vs Q
Melzer (AUT) vs Gaudio (ARG/2)

gooner88
10-08-2005, 12:18 PM
Grosjean in R1 :eek:
Nalbo better be focused and right mentally for that one!!!

sigmagirl91
10-08-2005, 01:20 PM
Grosjean? Oh, boy....

Yanina
10-08-2005, 04:21 PM
When is it begining? Will espn transmit the tournament in arg?
thanks!


Yani :wavey:

ja_som1
10-08-2005, 05:10 PM
Oh no, why Grosjean, it is not very good for the first round. I hope that when I come on Wednesday to Wien David will be still playing. I believe him.

squirtkb97
10-08-2005, 10:37 PM
Hello, David fans. :wavey: David is also playing doubles with Gaston Gaudio in Vienna. Here's the doubles draw.

[1] Mark Knowles/Daniel Nestor vs. Stefan Koubek/Alexander Peya
Nicolas Almagro/Tommy Robredo vs. Oliver Marach/Thomas Muster
Cyril Suk/Pavel Vizner vs. Tomas Berdych/Petr Pala
Nicolas Lapentti/Feliciano Lopez vs. Jiri Novak/David Skoch

Agustin Calleri/Fernando Gonzalez vs. Julian Knowle/Jurgen Melzer
Leos Friedl/Tomas Zib vs. [4] Gaston Etlis/Martin Rodriguez
Luis Horna/Tom Vanhoudt vs. Sebastien Grosjean/Radek Stepanek
Gaston Gaudio/David Nalbandian vs. [2] Jonathan Erlich/Andy Ram

Caralimon
10-09-2005, 03:29 AM
When is it begining? Will espn transmit the tournament in arg?
thanks!

Yani :wavey:

ESPN no transmite torneos menores.

Igualmente, TyC le hizo publicidad, pero no me imagino que den nada hasta el jueves, (solamente si David llega). sds

jazz_girl
10-09-2005, 12:20 PM
He's playing doubles with Gastón??? That's great! :)

Björki
10-09-2005, 12:29 PM
Great that nalby is playing doubles as well :)

Kyla
10-09-2005, 12:45 PM
:woohoo: Doubles as well! :woohoo:

And Feli with Nicolas :eek: - I'll have to be careful with my :drool: coz my boyfriend's here with me :)

:wavey: Greetings from Vienna!

sigmagirl91
10-09-2005, 12:56 PM
Hi, Kyla. The :drool: factor has gone up.

anna10
10-09-2005, 09:31 PM
Hi Anna, welcome to David's Forum :hug:

Best of luck in Vienna, D. :)
ClaudiaM - Thanks for your welcomes here and in Puerta's board.:-) I reallly enjoy reading all the forums for the South Americans.

I'm like everyone else - can't believe Nalbandian is having to face Grosjean in the first round, a tough one to start with.

Yanina
10-09-2005, 11:34 PM
ESPN no transmite torneos menores.

Igualmente, TyC le hizo publicidad, pero no me imagino que den nada hasta el jueves, (solamente si David llega). sds


Te agradezco mucho la info! Ojalá que lo pasen por algún canal!

Yani :wavey:

justClaudia
10-10-2005, 08:36 AM
ClaudiaM - Thanks for your welcomes here and in Puerta's board.:-) I reallly enjoy reading all the forums for the South Americans.

I'm like everyone else - can't believe Nalbandian is having to face Grosjean in the first round, a tough one to start with.


;)



Better be 200% focused David, or I dunno...
This is going to be a very thoguth match.

Kyla, enjoy the tournament. And please behave by your boyfriend's side :lol: :)

rachelzszs
10-11-2005, 12:35 PM
hEY guys
does the match begin?

anna10
10-11-2005, 01:11 PM
The Minar-Kim match is almost over, unless Kim has a major comeback, so they should be playing soon.

rachelzszs
10-11-2005, 01:28 PM
oh I see
so later I will be on.

gooner88
10-11-2005, 05:02 PM
OOP for Wednesday 12th October

CENTER COURT

2PM

Agustin Calleri (ARG) vs. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO)

4PM

Björn Phau (GER) vs. Carlos Moya (ESP)

Jürgen Melzer (AUT) vs. Gaston Gaudio (ARG)

730PM

David Nalbandian (ARG) vs. Sebastien Grosjean (FRA)

Radek Stepanek (CZE) vs. Tim Henman (GBR)


I should be able to watch the match. :D
Good Luck Nalbo. :yeah:

jazz_girl
10-11-2005, 08:58 PM
He lost with Gastón today by 5-2 5-3. That score seems so weird!!!

gooner88
10-11-2005, 09:01 PM
He lost with Gastón today by 5-2 5-3. That score seems so weird!!!

It's the new doubles scoring format.
It's also v. weird to me!

Yanina
10-11-2005, 11:59 PM
Yes, I can't get it totally yet. It's rare... 5-3, 5-2?? jaja

justClaudia
10-12-2005, 08:40 AM
He lost with Gastón today by 5-2 5-3. That score seems so weird!!!


The score is weird, yeah.
It's gonna take some time for us to get used to it.

Too bad they lost... :sad:
But now let's focus on the singles, shall we David? :)

jazz_girl
10-12-2005, 07:46 PM
I just got home and I'm watching it:
David serving 6-4 *2-1
0-15 UE
15-15 volley winner
LET
30-15 long return
40-15 good service
fault
fault
40-30
40-40 FE
fault
Ad David UE
good service
3-1*

jazz_girl
10-12-2005, 07:50 PM
15-0 ace
fault
15-15 FE
fault
fault
15-30
fault
15-40 UE
30-40 good service
fault
40-40 forehand winner
ad Grosjean FE
forehand winner
*3-2

jazz_girl
10-12-2005, 07:56 PM
fault
0-15 UE
fault
15-15 amazing backhand winner
30-15 good service
fault
30-30 UE
fault
fault
30-40
fault
40-40 backhand winner
ad Grosjean backhand winner
fault
FE
3-3*

jazz_girl
10-12-2005, 08:01 PM
0-15 UE
fault
15-15 FE
fault
30-15 forehand winner
fault
40-15 UE
LET
40-30 UE
volley winner
*3-4

jazz_girl
10-12-2005, 08:05 PM
15-0 ace
30-0 long return
LET
30-15 UE (he missed a very easy shot!!!)
fault
40-15 FE
good service
4-4*

jazz_girl
10-12-2005, 08:09 PM
0-15 great bakchand winner
fault
15-15 bakchand winner (amazing point from both)
fault
15-30 FE
30-30 UE
40-30 ace
forehand winner
*4-5

jazz_girl
10-12-2005, 08:14 PM
fault
0-15 return winner
15-15 FE
30-15 good service
30-30 UE
40-30 smash winner
LET
fault
40-40 return winner
ad david forehand winner
fault
FE
5-5*

jazz_girl
10-12-2005, 08:19 PM
15-0 UE
fault
15-15 FE
fault
15-30 UE
fault
30-30 smash winner
40-30 wide return
fault
40-40 FE
ad Grosjean good service
ace
*5-6

jazz_girl
10-12-2005, 08:23 PM
15-0 ace
fault
30-0 backhand winner
fault
40-0 long return
40-15 return winner
fault
UE
6-6*

jazz_girl
10-12-2005, 08:40 PM
fault
*1-0
fault
*2-0
3-0*
3-1 good service
fault
3-2 wide return
*4-2 backhand winner
5-2 smash winner
LET
5-3 wide return
fault
6-3 FE
6-4 DF
fault
6-5 forehand winner
6-6 UE
7-6 UE
7-7 UE
8-7 UE
8-8 wide return
9-8 volley winner
9-9 forehand winner
9-10 UE
long return
6-7

Truc
10-12-2005, 08:49 PM
I'm watching parts of the match with the livestream and I have a question, jazz_girl: I noticed David keeps passing the balls on his shirt before serving, does he always do this? Is it to make the balls wet and slower? Or is it just an habit, a tic?

I can't believe David lost the 2nd set! It looked like a solid match to me, he was serving pretty well – except on the matchpoints. :o
The Austrian commentator said he was "robbed" btw, but I didn't see this point (there was a very close ball on a matchpoint and the commentator thinks it was good, actually.)

jazz_girl
10-12-2005, 08:54 PM
I noticed it too! Maybe the court is too fast for him :confused:

sophia_c
10-12-2005, 08:57 PM
I noticed it too! Maybe the court is too fast for him :confused:

David does that a lot...especially on a fast surface...I think Coria joked when they were playing the Davis Cup semi that David would have to do that with every ball....yes it makes them slower :D

anna10
10-12-2005, 09:14 PM
I'd remembered reading that comment before the Davis Cup tie, and noticed him doing it quite a bit during his match with Hrbaty; I'd never really noticed one way or the other before then, but with it in mind it stood out. Coria reached a point against Hrbaty where he was giving it a try too.

I'm only half watching the match since I'm at work, and don't understand much German any more, but if the questionable point is the one I'm thinking, then I agree, at least through the somewhat broken up connection I'm getting at times.

jazz_girl
10-12-2005, 09:18 PM
David has won! :)
6-4 6-7 6-3

sigmagirl91
10-12-2005, 09:19 PM
Retard match :retard:

Neely
10-12-2005, 09:28 PM
I'm watching parts of the match with the livestream and I have a question, jazz_girl: I noticed David keeps passing the balls on his shirt before serving, does he always do this? Is it to make the balls wet and slower? Or is it just an habit, a tic?
I don't think he primarly does that to slow down the balls. It was said that the upper layer this year makes the court very "sticky", rough, pitty and is using up and fraying the balls' felt a lot. By rubbing them on his shirt maybe sometimes he tries to wet some badly frayed balls in order for the felt to abate and lay down again; rolling the felt. That's my view on this "habit" and the benefit you can get out of it.

Kyla
10-12-2005, 09:32 PM
MY NERVES!!!!! I'm still hyperventilating from that tie break!!!!!

Pleasepleaseplease I need a nice and easy match tomorrow!!!!!!!

Truc
10-12-2005, 09:55 PM
Thanks for your answers. You may also be right, Nelly, because the surface doesn't look that fast.
It would be nice if the journalists could ask him that question, but they rarely ask what we want to know.

Well done David, I only saw parts of the match and I missed the 3rd set, but from what I've seen, I think he played pretty well for a first match after a break. :yeah:

Sakura 0101
10-13-2005, 03:11 AM
David :)

Viken01
10-13-2005, 06:38 AM
hope it'll be an easy match today :)

gooner88
10-13-2005, 11:21 AM
Nalbo played well yesterday. On the MP's Nalbo didin't choke; Grosjean just came up with the goods.
That's definitely the best I've seen him serve in a looooooooong while.
Keep it going Nalbo. :yeah:

sigmagirl91
10-13-2005, 11:32 AM
Nalbo played well yesterday. On the MP's Nalbo didin't choke; Grosjean just came up with the goods.


Even so, David should have kicked it up a notch-just to avoid having to play a third set to finish it off.

justClaudia
10-13-2005, 11:34 AM
Well done David - you won, and that's what matters. :D

gooner88
10-13-2005, 11:40 AM
Even so, David should have kicked it up a notch-just to avoid having to play a third set to finish it off.

Agreed. But I was glad that Nalbo kept his concentration and temper in check after losing that second set. After losing the second set I was waiting for Nalbo to fly into a rage and smash his racket.
Nalbo has always had this habit of making matches longer than they really need to be and overcomplicate things.

jazz_girl
10-13-2005, 11:45 AM
I liked the way he played yesterday, and I believe he still has faith in making it to Shanghai, so I believe we will be seeing some good matches from now till the end of the year ;)

justClaudia
10-13-2005, 11:57 AM
I liked the way he played yesterday, and I believe he still has faith in making it to Shanghai, so I believe we will be seeing some good matches from now till the end of the year ;)


I agree with that, I think he wants to be in Shanghai - and will 'fight' for a place there :)

anna10
10-13-2005, 12:11 PM
Of course, one thing really working in his favour is that with good showings in Vienna and Basel, he gains many more points than most of those he would be leap-frogging - for example (if I've done this all correctly!) - Ancic has to make it to semis this week to gain any points, and that would be only four, while Nalbandian will have a gain all but one of the points he earns this week, and same for Basel.

I was also pleased with the way he stayed in the match - I was worried when it went into the third after a tie-breaker and all the match-points lost there, but he stayed with it.

sigmagirl91
10-13-2005, 01:16 PM
Of course, one thing really working in his favour is that with good showings in Vienna and Basel, he gains many more points than most of those he would be leap-frogging - for example (if I've done this all correctly!) - Ancic has to make it to semis this week to gain any points, and that would be only four, while Nalbandian will have a gain all but one of the points he earns this week, and same for Basel.

I was also pleased with the way he stayed in the match - I was worried when it went into the third after a tie-breaker and all the match-points lost there, but he stayed with it.

Oh, yeah....I forget about that "best of five" thing. Didn't Ancic and Ljubicic use up all their optionals?

sigmagirl91
10-13-2005, 01:18 PM
Agreed. But I was glad that Nalbo kept his concentration and temper in check after losing that second set. After losing the second set I was waiting for Nalbo to fly into a rage and smash his racket.
Nalbo has always had this habit of making matches longer than they really need to be and overcomplicate things.

Glad to hear that. I just wish he'd make things easier..starting with that serve..and maybe improve on his volleys. He plays too "bread and butter" on some points, when he should go for more.

anna10
10-13-2005, 01:40 PM
Oh, yeah....I forget about that "best of five" thing. Didn't Ancic and Ljubicic use up all their optionals?
They can still gain points, but will have to go deep in the tournaments to do so and even then they won't get the "full-value."

Actually, I think all of the players chasing what is probably the final spot (I think everyone through Coria is probably safe, and Safin is already confirmed qualified) are in a similar situation as Ancic and Ljubocic, some will be able to gain more points than those two in replacing a poorer counting result, but no one in that group (other than Gasquet, who I think still has only four optional tournaments counting) has two one-point tournaments counting like Nalbandian does.

sigmagirl91
10-13-2005, 01:56 PM
They can still gain points, but will have to go deep in the tournaments to do so and even then they won't get the "full-value."

Actually, I think all of the players chasing what is probably the final spot (I think everyone through Coria is probably safe, and Safin is already confirmed qualified) are in a similar situation as Ancic and Ljubocic, some will be able to gain more points than those two in replacing a poorer counting result, but no one in that group (other than Gasquet, who I think still has only four optional tournaments counting) has two one-point tournaments counting like Nalbandian does.

With that being the case, if David finished this tournament in the semis or better, he'd distance himself further from Ancic and Ljubicic, and pass Gasquet. And if he gets on a similar hot streak in Madrid and Basel, then he can lock up a spot (assuming, of course, he plays Paris, which he hasn't played since '02).

anna10
10-13-2005, 02:30 PM
With that being the case, if David finished this tournament in the semis or better, he'd distance himself further from Ancic and Ljubicic, and pass Gasquet. And if he gets on a similar hot streak in Madrid and Basel, then he can lock up a spot (assuming, of course, he plays Paris, which he hasn't played since '02).
Weren't the withdrawals injury-related, though, or at least injury combined with being too far out to have a realistic chance of qualifying? I'm hoping he'll stay healthy and be going strong by Paris.

sigmagirl91
10-13-2005, 02:36 PM
Weren't the withdrawals injury-related, though, or at least injury combined with being too far out to have a realistic chance of qualifying? I'm hoping he'll stay healthy and be going strong by Paris.

It was both. I don't know if you remember, but David injured his big toe, stubbing it on a post or something in Madrid. In the case of what happened here, I would have preferred he slammed the racquet instead.

gooner88
10-13-2005, 02:44 PM
It was both. I don't know if you remember, but David injured his big toe, stubbing it on a post or something in Madrid. In the case of what happened here, I would have preferred he slammed the racquet instead.

Oh yeah! :lol: :o
I guess the only positive, if there is one of Nalbo not getting the results in non-GS tourneys earlier in the year is that he can gain mega points now.
Making Shanghai is still a long shot in my opinion. To make it he probably has to win 2 tourneys, with one of them being a TMS. Considering he's only won 3 tourneys in his career that's a hell of a tough ask, but I'd love to see Nalbo play the Masters Cup again.
I would like Nalbo to earn good rankings points now to give him a good seeding for the Aussie Open in January.

sigmagirl91
10-13-2005, 03:01 PM
Oh yeah! :lol: :o
I guess the only positive, if there is one of Nalbo not getting the results in non-GS tourneys earlier in the year is that he can gain mega points now.
Making Shanghai is still a long shot in my opinion. To make it he probably has to win 2 tourneys, with one of them being a TMS. Considering he's only won 3 tourneys in his career that's a hell of a tough ask, but I'd love to see Nalbo play the Masters Cup again.
I would like Nalbo to earn good rankings points now to give him a good seeding for the Aussie Open in January.


Yeah...he still has some ground to cover in order to make that a reality.

sigmagirl91
10-13-2005, 05:53 PM
I sincerely hope he can win these last two games. If he does, then he'll meet Ferrero next. Think he can win this time?

sigmagirl91
10-13-2005, 06:14 PM
David won, 6-1 7-5
Why did he have to have another drama-filled second set?

napki
10-13-2005, 06:18 PM
At last! i thought for a moment that he won't hold that serve.

Welcome to the next round David!

sigmagirl91
10-13-2005, 06:21 PM
Really...welcome to the quarters....now, he plays JCF next. Wonder what will happen there.

crazy_nanine
10-13-2005, 06:23 PM
Really...welcome to the quarters....now, he plays JCF next. Wonder what will happen there.
yeah...i hope he gets revenge for the last match...I think he can do it, and hope he does it..no more suspense please :angel: :lol:

sigmagirl91
10-13-2005, 06:24 PM
yeah...i hope he gets revenge for the last match...I think he can do it, and hope he does it..no more suspense please :angel: :lol:

Please...I don't think I can take anymore.

gooner88
10-13-2005, 07:02 PM
yeah...i hope he gets revenge for the last match...I think he can do it, and hope he does it..no more suspense please :angel: :lol:

Nearly all of Nalbo's matches have suspense; it comes with the package. :devil: It just wouldn't be a Nalbo match without his customary serving wobble.
He played solid and just got the job done.
Best wishes tomorrow against JCF Nalbo. :yeah:

sigmagirl91
10-13-2005, 07:03 PM
Nearly all of Nalbo's matches have suspense; it comes with the package. :devil: It just wouldn't be a Nalbo match without his customary serving wobble.
He played solid and just got the job done.
Best wishes tomorrow against JCF Nalbo. :yeah:

VERY best wishes. He cannot afford to have lapses like that. At least he can still gain some much-needed points for the race to Shanghai.

anna10
10-13-2005, 07:33 PM
I agree that his actually making it to Shanghai is a long-shot, but so far, so good this week; with Ancic losing today, Nalbandian will move ahead of him. I can't find the point chart to see how close it puts him to Gasquet and Ferrer.

I can do without a suspenseful match tomorrow.

sigmagirl91
10-13-2005, 07:34 PM
I agree that his actually making it to Shanghai is a long-shot, but so far, so good this week; with Ancic losing today, Nalbandian will move ahead of him. I can't find the point chart to see how close it puts him to Gasquet and Ferrer.

I can do without a suspenseful match tomorrow.

What is his position, 13th or 14th? What if he makes the semis or the final? If so, he should pass Ferrer since he lost in Stockholm first round-and probably Gasquet as well, since he's not playing.

anna10
10-13-2005, 07:36 PM
He's 14th now, and you're right, if he makes the semis he moves ahead of Ferrer and Gasquet to 11th.

sigmagirl91
10-13-2005, 07:38 PM
He's 14th now, and you're right, if he makes the semis he moves ahead of Ferrer and Gasquet to 11th.

Good deal. Go, David. I wonder what kind of miracle he could pull off if he were to win the whole tournament and have good results in Madrid and Basel. He did extremely well at those two events last year. With Roger, Marat, and probably Lleyton out, he could go far.

anna10
10-14-2005, 03:12 AM
I finally got home to my points-breakdown chart, and I think today's win ended up being enough to put him ahead of Gasquet and Ferrer.

Sakura 0101
10-14-2005, 07:56 AM
Good luck to next match, David :yeah:

sigmagirl91
10-14-2005, 08:24 AM
I finally got home to my points-breakdown chart, and I think today's win ended up being enough to put him ahead of Gasquet and Ferrer.

Hmmm.....really? Then, what would a win today do? I understand he's like 100 points away from Davydenko, who sits at #7.

anna10
10-14-2005, 10:29 AM
Anything else in Vienna just gives a more secure hold on 11th - I think the his new total would be up to 307 - which closes the gap to Davydenko to about 70 points. It does put him within striking distance of Puerta (324), and even Gaudio (344), if he holds up to being a stronger player on the faster surfaces than these two. I just hate that it's these two in the path.

sigmagirl91
10-14-2005, 10:35 AM
Anything else in Vienna just gives a more secure hold on 11th - I think the total would be 307 - which closes the gap to Davydenko to about 70 points. It does put him within striking distance of Puerta (324), and even Gaudio (344), if he holds up to being a stronger player on the faster surfaces than these two. I just hate that it's these two in the path.

Ok...but Puerta has yet to compete on any indoor surface this year, so he's the "great unknown". As for Gaudio....he's not had success on this surface either. Although I dislike the fact that these two are in his path-and he probably does too-he does what he must to make his journey to Shanghai lighter and more problem-free (as if...).

anna10
10-14-2005, 10:54 AM
Ok...but Puerta has yet to compete on any indoor surface this year, so he's the "great unknown". As for Gaudio....he's not had success on this surface either. Although I dislike the fact that these two are in his path-and he probably does too-he does what he must to make his journey to Shanghai lighter and more problem-free (as if...).
Along those lines then, Nalbandian will also be helped by the fact that Gaudio will have to win Lyon to gain any points (10, I think) that week.

sigmagirl91
10-14-2005, 10:55 AM
Along those lines then, Nalbandian will also be helped by the fact that Gaudio will have to win Lyon to gain any points (10, I think) that week.

So.....Gaudio has used up HIS optionals too? Wow....

jazz_girl
10-14-2005, 10:57 AM
Gastón can only add points in Madrid and Paris, the other tournaments don't count for him anymore, since he's already won 5 ATP tournaments this year.

sigmagirl91
10-14-2005, 10:58 AM
Gastón can only add points in Madrid and Paris, the other tournaments don't count for him anymore, since he's already won 5 ATP tournaments this year.

Oh...I understand now. Thanks.

anna10
10-14-2005, 11:01 AM
Gastón can only add points in Madrid and Paris, the other tournaments don't count for him anymore, since he's already won 5 ATP tournaments this year.
But if Lyon is worth more points - 45 I think - than one of those wins (he has three 35-point tournaments), wouldn't it replace one of those and he would gain the 10-point difference?

sigmagirl91
10-14-2005, 11:03 AM
But if Lyon is worth more points - 45 I think - than one of those wins (he has three 35-point tournaments), wouldn't it replace one of those and he would gain the 10-point difference?

No...I don't think. He's probably used up all his optional points for the year in other events entered. Just my guess anyway. I really don't know how the points system works, outside of looking at Judio's ATP rankings thread in GM....and even then, it's still Greek to me.

jazz_girl
10-14-2005, 11:04 AM
But if Lyon is worth more points - 45 I think - than one of those wins (he has three 35-point tournaments), wouldn't it replace one of those and he would gain the 10-point difference?
He could, but Gastón has already said that he doesn't see himself doing that at all, so he will give his all to gain points in the Masters. 10 points is not much at all, and he'll have to play a lot, while he can win the same amount of points by playing in the second round of a TMS. It makes sense.

sigmagirl91
10-14-2005, 11:05 AM
He could, but Gastón has already said that he doesn't see himself doing that at all, so he will give his all to gain points in the Masters. 10 points is not much at all, and he'll have to play a lot, while he can win the same amount of points by playing in the second round of a TMS. It makes sense.

Makes perfect sense, actually.

anna10
10-14-2005, 11:32 AM
I completely agree on Gaudio's position and that winning in Lyon is unlikely, I'm just trying to cover every possibility with all the top players, and also seeing if I've figured out this points thing correctly.

sigmagirl91
10-14-2005, 11:36 AM
The danger in being in Gaudio's position: there are stronger indoor court players just below him who could overtake him at this stretch. He's in a "damned if he does, damned if he doesn't" situation. In any case, with the depth of the field in the Masters tournaments, he may not get very far.

Sakura 0101
10-14-2005, 05:19 PM
6-7
David lost 1st set :(

Sakura 0101
10-14-2005, 05:24 PM
David break :D
6-7 1-0

Sakura 0101
10-14-2005, 05:33 PM
JC break back :(
6-7 1-1

Sakura 0101
10-14-2005, 05:38 PM
David break again :D
6-7 2-1

Sakura 0101
10-14-2005, 05:45 PM
JC break back again :(
6-7 2-2
David did stupid smash error! :mad:

Sakura 0101
10-14-2005, 05:49 PM
JC keep :(
6-7 2-3

Sakura 0101
10-14-2005, 05:56 PM
JC break :mad:
6-7 2-4
David absolutely don't want to win.

Sakura 0101
10-14-2005, 06:02 PM
JC keep :(
6-7 2-5
David had break point
but he broke his racket :devil:

Sakura 0101
10-14-2005, 06:05 PM
DAvid keep at last :(
6-7 3-5

Sakura 0101
10-14-2005, 06:12 PM
He lost.
6-7 3-6

gooner88
10-14-2005, 07:37 PM
Typical Nalbo.
Every time he had a lead he didin't consolidate. He had 2 SP at 5-4, he led in the TB and was a break up twice in the second set.
He made way way too many UE's and his serve once again disintegrated under the pressure.
There's no shame in losing to JCF, but a little more concentration at the right moments and he would've won.
Nalbo better get his game and his mind back in order for Madrid next week.

napki
10-14-2005, 10:39 PM
Typical Nalbo.
Every time he had a lead he didin't consolidate. He had 2 SP at 5-4, he led in the TB and was a break up twice in the second set.
He made way way too many UE's and his serve once again disintegrated under the pressure.
There's no shame in losing to JCF, but a little more concentration at the right moments and he would've won.
Nalbo better get his game and his mind back in order for Madrid next week.
That's what i was thinking. Sometimes he had some very good shots but on the important points he gave himself away, handing UEs to right and left. The same thing was yesterday on his last game, i wasn't sure if he was going to hold his serve and win the match, and luckily he did. Today it wasn't that easy.

Does he always play like that? :confused: I didn't see a lot of his matches, but he was in Wimbledon final last year, QF of 3 GSs this year and won only 3 titles in his career? That seems odd.
Come on David, we know you can do it so pull yourself together and play.

rachelzszs
10-16-2005, 12:06 PM
I hate him!
Cuz he hurt me again and again

Yanina
10-16-2005, 04:14 PM
But Nalba is like that.
I think I love him because of all of these. I love him with his mistakes. In good and not so good situatios. We all dream to see him number one, but I don't think he would be so atractive to us seing him so perfect, like Federer, for example.
It's just an opinion.

Yani :wavey:

sigmagirl91
10-16-2005, 05:47 PM
But Nalba is like that.
I think I love him because of all of these. I love him with his mistakes. In good and not so good situatios. We all dream to see him number one, but I don't think he would be so atractive to us seing him so perfect, like Federer, for example.
It's just an opinion.

Yani :wavey:

And I agree with you.

jazz_girl
10-16-2005, 08:30 PM
It's so good to see you so often over here Yani!!! :)
Unfourtunatly I can't be so much online like before because I'm working a LOT!!!

sigmagirl91
10-16-2005, 08:31 PM
It's so good to see you so often over here Yani!!! :)
Unfourtunatly I can't be so much online like before because I'm working a LOT!!!

Even on the weekends? Get outta here!!!

gooner88
10-16-2005, 08:35 PM
How's your new job going Jazz?
Hope you're enjoying it!

jazz_girl
10-16-2005, 08:39 PM
Today I started working at 7am and finished at 3:30 pm. Next week I'll have to enter at around 6:30, so I should be waking up quite early, but I don't mind. I'd rather do that than having to leave late at night!!! The job's doing great, I enjoy it a lot cause I get to spend hours talking in English, and I've improved my spoken English a LOT! At least that's what the guests tell me :p

gooner88
10-16-2005, 08:44 PM
That's great to hear. :)
Hope everything concerning your job continues to blossom.

jazz_girl
10-16-2005, 08:46 PM
Thanks! :)

sigmagirl91
10-16-2005, 08:55 PM
Today I started working at 7am and finished at 3:30 pm. Next week I'll have to enter at around 6:30, so I should be waking up quite early, but I don't mind. I'd rather do that than having to leave late at night!!! The job's doing great, I enjoy it a lot cause I get to spend hours talking in English, and I've improved my spoken English a LOT! At least that's what the guests tell me :p

Wonderful! At the hotel you're working with, are you in communications?

jazz_girl
10-16-2005, 09:30 PM
No, not in comunications, but many of my chores are comunication ;)

sigmagirl91
10-16-2005, 10:34 PM
Oh...PR then?

rachelzszs
10-17-2005, 03:20 AM
Oh,yes, Maybe I am too tired...
Anyhow, Vamos! David!
Thank you ,guys!

justClaudia
10-19-2005, 01:58 PM
Today I started working at 7am and finished at 3:30 pm. Next week I'll have to enter at around 6:30, so I should be waking up quite early, but I don't mind. I'd rather do that than having to leave late at night!!! The job's doing great, I enjoy it a lot cause I get to spend hours talking in English, and I've improved my spoken English a LOT! At least that's what the guests tell me :p

It's good to know everything's fine with your new job, and that you're enjoying it. :hug: