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WTA players can beat James Blake?

Grinder
10-05-2005, 01:12 AM
For those people who think that wta players can't handle atp serves, just watch mixed doubles. Even in world team tennis, this year, Kournikova returned most of mardy Fish's huge first serves, some for clean winners. Henin and Clijsters, as well as most wta players today, return even better than Kournikova. I know this a very difficult thing for most male heterosexuals to accept but some wta players, ranked in the top 100 could beat some atp players also ranked in the top 100. I have to say most male heterosexuals because my life experience has shown this group to have the most trouble accepting losses to women. I have beaten many men, in tennis and in martial arts classes. The excuses are worse than the williams sisters. Sorry boys, some women can beat you. I would also like to say that I cannot think of any woman who could beat Federer but Dent, Sanguinetti, Karlovic, Christophe Rochus, Blake, Gambill, Fish, Santoro, Rusedski, Srichiphan and Henman are among those atp players who could lose to some wta players.


lmao. Check out this post by this chick from the Tennis Warehouse forums.

:lol:

AgassiDomination
10-05-2005, 01:27 AM
Wow, well she definetly needs to back that up with better explanation, because I seriously dont see that happening... Well I can see Serena beating Roger. :P

Skyward
10-05-2005, 01:41 AM
Why do we need to import :bs: from the Tennis Warehouse? We have plenty of domestic staff.

max122
10-05-2005, 02:16 AM
hahah Sereena beatin roger!

Fee
10-05-2005, 02:45 AM
Why do we need to import :bs: from the Tennis Warehouse? We have plenty of domestic staff.

This is the most truthful and brilliant post on MTF for the last 52 weeks. :worship: :worship: :worship:



(oh wait, there was also the nickname thread, Rafael 'Don't shake my hands, my fingers stink' Nadal post. I still laugh at that one...)

Grinder
10-05-2005, 02:47 AM
I just posted it to give you guys a laugh, I found this humorous.

Fee
10-05-2005, 02:49 AM
It is, but Skyward's post was funny too. :D

cecilija
10-05-2005, 03:00 AM
:haha: :rolls:
Why do we need to import :bs: from the TennisWarehouse? We have plenty of domestic staff.

cecilija
10-05-2005, 03:01 AM
poor maria lover :tape: :retard: :lol:
lmao. Check out this post by this chick from the Tennis Warehouse forums.

:lol:

tangerine_dream
10-05-2005, 03:37 AM
Are marialover and myskinalova related?

El Legenda
10-05-2005, 03:41 AM
Are marialover and myskinalova related?

I believe no, because of the ending to there last name, Lover and Lova

but are you related to the Russia troll Dream, :lol:

Chloe le Bopper
10-05-2005, 03:41 AM
People on tenniswarehouse make my brain hurt. I mean, the people here do too, but tenniswarehouse has it's own special brand of stupid.

90% of the posters there are sexist, homophobic males. That or they are just pretending. The administration is a touch of both of things as well.

alfonsojose
10-05-2005, 03:46 AM
I can see them blasting some return winners, but they're hopeless.

Clara Bow
10-05-2005, 04:36 AM
People on tenniswarehouse make my brain hurt.

Could not agree more. Whenever I venture in there I feel a quick regret like when I would get a wee bit snookered at in college and sometimes make out with not-so-choice guys at parties. I should know better- - I should have learned lessons from the past- but I do it anyway and instantly regret it.

Rafa = Fed Killa
10-05-2005, 05:29 AM
WOW :eek: so delusional.

skel1983
10-05-2005, 09:21 AM
These threads make me laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Women can return serve and?????

Women don't move aswell as men that is one of the biggest obsticales between a women beating a man, secondly the power!!! I have said this a million times before i would predict that every man in the top 100 would beat any women on the planet.

Horatio Caine
10-05-2005, 09:26 AM
Rusedski losing to a WTA player...my ass! :haha: :haha:

Henman might lose in his current state...but even then they would struggle to beat him.

There aren't enough attacking WTA players. Hell, I can't remember seeing 1 player serve and volley this year fairly regularly. They'd have to do that to at least stand a chance. No way would they win baseline tussles often enough to win matches against the likes of Old Man Sangers and Paradorn.

As for Karlovic...how the hell would they return his serve?? The ATP players struggle enough! Although he hasn't got the best groundies, one break of serve against a joke-server like Dementieva would be all he needed for a set.

Come off it!!

Horatio Caine
10-05-2005, 09:27 AM
These threads make me laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Women can return serve and?????

Women don't move aswell as men that is one of the biggest obsticales between a women beating a man, secondly the power!!! I have said this a million times before i would predict that every man in the top 100 would beat any women on the planet.

I reckon Clijsters could give Christophe Rochus a good match ;)

Action Jackson
10-05-2005, 09:27 AM
These threads make me laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Women can return serve and?????

Women don't move aswell as men that is one of the biggest obsticales between a women beating a man, secondly the power!!! I have said this a million times before i would predict that every man in the top 100 would beat any women on the planet.

Even I can't argue with you on this, but the original poster is just delusional and should be treated as such.

Frederick16
10-05-2005, 11:36 AM
whahahahahah. brilliant!!! sanguinetti double bagels henin offcourse... and karlovic trashes sharapova and blake kills kim with 0 and 0...

Jim Jones
10-05-2005, 01:45 PM
and braasch crushes the Williams sisters. Oh yeah that's already been done. :D

prima donna
10-05-2005, 02:37 PM
Are marialover and myskinalova related?

<golf clap>

Bravo...

*Viva Chile*
10-05-2005, 04:53 PM
I remember that Yannick Noah (who is retired) defeated Henin-Hardenne easily some years ago when Justine was on the top.

skel1983
10-05-2005, 04:59 PM
I remember that Yannick Noah (who is retired) defeated Henin-Hardenne easily some years ago when Justine was on the top.


Exactly, i am not a sexist or anything like that, just a realist, i mean if anyone man or women on this forum think any Women could beat a man in the top 100 they don't know much about tennis or the human being!!!!!!

Come on Someone mentioned Christopher Rochus would be defeated by Serena i would put my life savings on Chris Rochus.

name_change
10-05-2005, 05:01 PM
from what i know, gay men are much more competitive than heteros.

Lee
10-05-2005, 05:30 PM
There was an interview with Lindsay Davenport, top woman player for many years about men and women tennis player. Her husband Jonathan Leach (whose older brother Rick is still playing doubles on the tour) was a tennis player and his highest ATP single ranking was 834. When asked whether they played against each other, Lindsay said they did sometimes and she had a hard time beating her husband. She said it's not easy to handle the power from him and we know Lindsay is famous with her power on women's tour.

You may say she's stroking her husband's ego but I doubt it.

Sjengster
10-05-2005, 10:30 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Christophe Rochus against Serena or Venus, it would be interesting to see how even a 5'7" male player has too much pace and spin for a top female player to cope with.

That or Karlovic against any WTA opponent, just because his victory would be criticised by ignorant WTAWorlders as a sign of the unfair dominance of the serve in men's tennis (and you'd get people saying, "If he didn't have that serve he'd be outplayed off the ground by a top woman!"). Mind you, surely the best and most athletic WTA players, a la Clijsters, would win a movement battle against Karlo from the baseline?

K-Dog
10-05-2005, 10:50 PM
I had a the no.1 girl in the tennis team at my school tell me (the no. 2 singles player and captain of the boy's team) that she would beat me. I laughed at her and she got really offended. She can't even beat some girls on a .500 tennis team. We are the Conference Tournament co-champs, won three meets last year, I won 2 meets at my position, and qualified 6 of 7 courts/postions to sectional play. She claimed that because she's played longer, she'd beat me. All I said to her was "I a guy, you are a girl, end of story!!" I know it sounds sexist, but it is true in tennis as in all sports with the exception of a few. This claim is ridiculous that a women could beat a man. Any guy in the top 100 would destroy an girl in the top ten. The two games are very different physically.

Sjengster
10-05-2005, 10:56 PM
The first person who tries to make an issue out of it is just wasting their time, whatever their gender. I mean, the person quoted talks about the insecurity of heterosexual men, but it must take a certain kind of insecurity in the first place to start making boastful predictions about female players beating male ones.

CanadianBoy18
10-05-2005, 11:22 PM
The article is a joke.
But if there was one tour, you'd see that women would eventually get used to the power and adapt and gain ground. Of course not enough to be on the very top, but you'd see a considerable rise.
Take Serena Williams for instance 2003. She was too dominant and too over confident. She thought that she need not improve (and of course injuries took their tool, but also a little letting down of the guard), and that was her top. But had she played on the men's tour she would have just gotten better and better and would be always on her toes and I do think she is powerful and athletic enough, as well as a fierce enough competitor to give the men a good run at her very best. Just my opinion.

JonnyC21
10-05-2005, 11:32 PM
The main issue I would say was the serve and fitness. There is far more variation, power and placement in the men's service games, and you will never see an overweight male tennis player, while I have seen Capriati, Seles and others look tubby, not to mention Casonova as an extreme example.
Also, if you look at the way Serena Williams plays compared to a simular sized man like Hewitt, you will note how Hewitt is just all over a much better player. The movement and anticipation and recovery is superior and he hits are far cleaner, flatter and far more accurate ball, even if Serena's power when she sets up is comparable.

NYCtennisfan
10-06-2005, 12:11 AM
Asogoe can take James 6-1, 6-2. Two of those games he would give him out of pity.

Federerhingis
10-06-2005, 12:27 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing Christophe Rochus against Serena or Venus, it would be interesting to see how even a 5'7" male player has too much pace and spin for a top female player to cope with.

That or Karlovic against any WTA opponent, just because his victory would be criticised by ignorant WTAWorlders as a sign of the unfair dominance of the serve in men's tennis (and you'd get people saying, "If he didn't have that serve he'd be outplayed off the ground by a top woman!"). Mind you, surely the best and most athletic WTA players, a la Clijsters, would win a movement battle against Karlo from the baseline?

He's 5'5" isnt he. But still he can crush all the players in the top ten.

Oneofakind0490
10-06-2005, 12:44 AM
I somewhat remember the Anna and Mardy match and I can't remember Anna returning well. SHe could abrely get her racket on the ball and is she did it was out of a easy put away. That girl is :retard:

Lee
10-06-2005, 12:52 AM
He's 5'5" isnt he. But still he can crush all the players in the top ten.

Olivier is 5'5", Christopher is 5'7"

Corey Feldman
10-06-2005, 02:03 AM
The part about WTA players beating Henman, i can believe

MissMoJo
10-06-2005, 02:21 AM
The part about WTA players beating Henman, i can believe
:o timmy will make a comeback in 2006 :ras:

Corey Feldman
10-06-2005, 02:26 AM
:p

LuckyAC
10-06-2005, 03:37 AM
The question is whether the top woman player could be competitive with top boys 16s players. It is obvious the women wouldn't as talented, since a woman can be #1 in the world at 16, and she will be worse than boys of the same age, but they might have a chance based on experience. Obviously they'd have no chance against Nadal or Becker or Chang at 16, but the maybe some of the less amazing kids.

Lee
10-06-2005, 06:04 AM
The question is whether the top woman player could be competitive with top boys 16s players. It is obvious the women wouldn't as talented, since a woman can be #1 in the world at 16, and she will be worse than boys of the same age, but they might have a chance based on experience. Obviously they'd have no chance against Nadal or Becker or Chang at 16, but the maybe some of the less amazing kids.

This has nothing to do with talent. Teenage girls are more mature than teenage boys, thus they are mentally tougher. (actually simply girls and boys will do, not necessary reaching their teens) Also, the physical difference between boys and men is much more prominent than girls and women.

Rafa = Fed Killa
10-06-2005, 06:11 AM
A top 16 year old boy can easily beat a top 16 year old girl.
Whats the argument? :confused:

Polikarpov
10-06-2005, 04:44 PM
Maybe if the women such as kournikova or hantuchova are going to play naked!

Federerhingis
10-06-2005, 04:49 PM
The question is whether the top woman player could be competitive with top boys 16s players. It is obvious the women wouldn't as talented, since a woman can be #1 in the world at 16, and she will be worse than boys of the same age, but they might have a chance based on experience. Obviously they'd have no chance against Nadal or Becker or Chang at 16, but the maybe some of the less amazing kids.

Hingis has been practicing with watcha ma call him top US ranked boy last year. I'm sure its a pretty even game between these two, Hingis backhand is much better, his serves are still pretty weak so I guess she gets a chance to give em a good whack. Her volleys and net game is a lot more mature than his so I assume she gets her fair amount of wins against him.

DayTripperGH
10-06-2005, 05:29 PM
Why do we need to import :bs: from the Tennis Warehouse? We have plenty of domestic staff.

:haha: LOL

DayTripperGH
10-06-2005, 05:33 PM
haha i seriously do not believe dent or blake could be taken out by a wta player
seriously have you seen how hard those guys hit??? and it seems to me that they have more angle...im not sexist or anything but theres a definitley a fine line between mens tennis and womens tennis because of the physical capabilities.

Timariot
10-06-2005, 06:51 PM
Last summer I got to watch Emma Laine (then a top 300 WTA player) double bagel some poor girl in Finnish nationals. On the next court there were men's match, where both players were ranked 1000+. The difference in power and tempo of the game was enormous - especially serves. Of course, Emma is a small and not very hard-hitting retriever even by WTA standards, but nevertheless. Only thing in which she seemed equal to those male players was foot speed.

US Open measures service return and groundstroke speeds in addition to serves. If you follow them, you see that there is not much difference in hardest groundstrokes between men and women. The difference is that the guys are able to crunch those groundstrokes on a routine basis, hardly ever missing, whilst the women are much closer to their maximum power and predictably make more errors when hitting that hard.

Someone like Olivier Rochus - he perhaps doesn't hit that hard even by WTA Big Babe standards, but he is able to grind out deep topspin or inside-out forehand on such a consistent basis that any top female player would simply succumb to errors trying to match that. IMO, it would be difficult to any female player to beat top 1000 ranked pro. Didn't Patty Schnyder beat a guy ranked 1100 something couple of years ago?

its.like.that
10-12-2005, 08:02 AM
lmao. Check out this post by this chick from the Tennis Warehouse forums.

:lol:

Check out this guy who bothered quoting this crap.

:lol: