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Mariano Hood the main suspect

Caralimon
10-03-2005, 04:16 PM
The positive-doping implicated would be argentine doubles player Mariano Hood, according to the argentinian press, he took some medication to avoid baldness.

Hood's won 13 doubles titles as a professional player. Let's see what happens. :rolleyes:

TheMightyFed
10-03-2005, 04:22 PM
The positive-doping implicated would be argentine doubles player Mariano Hood, according to the argentinian press, he took some medication to avoid baldness.

Hood's won 13 doubles titles as a professional player. Let's see what happens. :rolleyes:
You're kidding right ?

Effka
10-03-2005, 04:24 PM
You're kidding right ?

Ditto.

Truc
10-03-2005, 04:26 PM
It was my first reaction too: is this a joke? :confused:
If you're serious, Caralimon, what do you mean exactly with "according to the argentinian press"?

TheMightyFed
10-03-2005, 04:28 PM
Here's the guy :
He should shave his head and stop scaring Puerta and Coria with possible life ban threat... :rolleyes:

TheMightyFed
10-03-2005, 04:33 PM
If you're a bald guy with asthma and drink electrolytes, you are VERY VERY unlucky according to Argentines !!! :devil:

cecilija
10-03-2005, 04:35 PM
He should happy to be baldy like both agassi and ljubicic are

Horatio Caine
10-03-2005, 04:37 PM
That is just daft :rolleyes:

JMG
10-03-2005, 04:38 PM
So this is the big name?

Horatio Caine
10-03-2005, 04:39 PM
I've got big ears but I wouldn't risk my career if I had the option to take some medication designed to reduce their size over a few months, such medication perhaps containing traces of a banned substance.

Horatio Caine
10-03-2005, 04:40 PM
So this is the big name?

He is / has been big in doubles

Rex
10-03-2005, 04:40 PM
not a great reason

Fergie
10-03-2005, 04:48 PM
This must be a joke ...

oneandonlyhsn
10-03-2005, 04:56 PM
according to the argentinian press, he took some medication to avoid baldness.


OMG risking your career over baldness, get a freaking hair transplant if its that important. I just dont think this has any truth to it

alfonsojose
10-03-2005, 05:00 PM
:retard: He only had to boil some pubic hair and then using the water as shampoo :shrug:

Horatio Caine
10-03-2005, 05:04 PM
:retard: He only had to boil some pubic hair and then using the water as shampoo :shrug:

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Denaon
10-03-2005, 05:15 PM
Which is the source of this? :scratch:

cecilija
10-03-2005, 05:18 PM
mauro viale :tape:
Which is the source of this? :scratch:

Denaon
10-03-2005, 05:30 PM
OMG, wasn't he the one that said that this doping thing was related to GG or DN?? And now he says this relates to MH....? :lol: Such a lame journalist......MV :retard:

ketibeti
10-03-2005, 06:09 PM
I've got big ears but I wouldn't risk my career if I had the option to take some medication designed to reduce their size over a few months, such medication perhaps containing traces of a banned substance.



:worship: this is the funniest thing i've read online!

sigmagirl91
10-03-2005, 10:47 PM
Why didn't he just go to the nearest wash-n-weave hair joint? It's cheaper and easier that way.

michelleg
10-03-2005, 11:11 PM
well what in tarnation could he have taken, as rogaine isnt exactly on the banned substance list.

Jogy
10-03-2005, 11:15 PM
I'm known for my very rigid viewline on dopers and fucking cheaters in tennis and other sports, but SUSPECT only is not enough. It must be prove and evidence!

jazz_girl
10-03-2005, 11:30 PM
Where did you hear this??? It sounds like a joke.

shotgun
10-04-2005, 12:48 AM
After Martin Rodriguez being adverted by excessive caffeine consumption, this is the most ridiculous case of doping I´ve ever heard of. BTW, what medicine did he take?

LaTenista
10-04-2005, 03:37 AM
So this is the player who made it to the 2nd week of RG that is going to before the tribunal according to L'Equipe? :eek: It hasn't even been verified it's an Argentine yet. :scratch: Or does everyone just think it has to be one?

KoOlMaNsEaN
10-04-2005, 03:41 AM
To avoid baldness :lol:

Julio1974
10-04-2005, 01:10 PM
Infobae confirms this rumour.

http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.php?Idx=214388&IdxSeccion=100439

~EMiLiTA~
10-04-2005, 02:05 PM
:tape:

Experimentee
10-04-2005, 02:54 PM
After Martin Rodriguez being adverted by excessive caffeine consumption, this is the most ridiculous case of doping I´ve ever heard of. BTW, what medicine did he take?

Martin Rodriguez tested positive too? :eek:

NicoFan
10-04-2005, 03:04 PM
If this is true - its so bizarre that I really doubt it - but if it is, it will make the ATP look even more ridiculous and incompetent than they already do...and that would seem pretty difficult to do since they are the worst run sports organization in all professional sport.

Good thing the ITF is taking over - although will they be better?

Banning someone for taking drugs for balding...whoa...what a crime. ;)

Gonzalo81
10-04-2005, 03:13 PM
Infobae confirms this rumour.

http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.php?Idx=214388&IdxSeccion=100439

According to this article is not for taking drugs for baldness but for some substance that was used on a hair transplant. :rolleyes:

And they say that they would ban him for 3 months because they now he wasn´t trying to get advantage on tennis by doing that, besides maybe getting some more girls... :D

alfonsojose
10-04-2005, 03:14 PM
If this is true - its so bizarre that I really doubt it - but if it is, it will make the ATP look even more ridiculous and incompetent than they already do...and that would seem pretty difficult to do since they are the worst run sports organization in all professional sport.

Good thing the ITF is taking over - although will they be better?

Banning someone for taking drugs for balding...whoa...what a crime. ;)
No matter how silly it looks, if the drugs he took had a banned substance, he should tell them. If he didn't, he's the dumbass :shrug:

Action Jackson
10-04-2005, 03:17 PM
I hope this is true, just for the stupidity of it all.

Next, some player will be banned for taking something in a plastic surgery operation to make them more beautiful to the women.

MariaV
10-04-2005, 03:20 PM
George you're to funny.

Gonzalo81
10-04-2005, 03:21 PM
I hope this is true, just for the stupidity of it all.

Next, some player will be banned for taking something in a plastis surgery operation to make them more beautiful to the women.

Or probably some player will get nailed for taking viagra :retard:

NicoFan
10-04-2005, 03:25 PM
No matter how silly it looks, if the drugs he took had a banned substance, he should tell them. If he didn't, he's the dumbass :shrug:

We'll have to agree to disagree.

This has been said before so will only say briefly - these guys are not pharmacists - or they shouldn't have to have a degree in advanced medicine in order to take for example their asthma medication.

I think the rules are completely overboard.

Its one thing to try to keep the sport clean to stop intentional use of performance enhancing drugs.

Its another to be completely ludicrous. Which these rules are that ban players for hair growth drugs or asthma medication or excessive caffeine.

You have guys that are afraid to take supplements, or have a cold/flu and are afraid to take medicine. That's not what the rules s/b for.

And this case just shows how completely dumb the rules are.

Denaon
10-04-2005, 03:26 PM
Or probably some player will get nailed for taking viagra :retard:
There goes grandpa Andre's sexual life...poor Steffi :rolls:

Action Jackson
10-04-2005, 03:29 PM
There goes grandpa Andre's sexual life...poor Steffi :rolls:

Agassi doesn't fail drug tests.

revolution
10-04-2005, 03:31 PM
I think this is another farce, it seems they'll ban anyone, I mean alcohol is a drug, are they going to ban players for drinking next???

Action Jackson
10-04-2005, 03:34 PM
I think this is another farce, it seems they'll ban anyone, I mean alcohol is a drug, are they going to ban players for drinking next???

I am surprised Karsten Braasch hasn't failed a drug test, he smokes ( nicotine a drug) and doesn't mind a beer.

Choupi
10-04-2005, 03:44 PM
Next, some player will be banned for taking something in a plastic surgery operation to make them more beautiful to the women.
I guess I have an idea of who would accept, who would refuse and who should! ;)

Gonzalo81
10-04-2005, 05:23 PM
There goes grandpa Andre's sexual life...poor Steffi :rolls:

:rolls:

Lee
10-04-2005, 05:30 PM
This has been said before so will only say briefly - these guys are not pharmacists - or they shouldn't have to have a degree in advanced medicine in order to take for example their asthma medication.

As a professional athlete, it's his responsibility to check with his doctor what kind of medicine will be used for his medical procedure. His doctor, another professional in his/her business, should know about every substance in the medication he/she used and both should check with the banned substance list. And being professional should file a list of medication used in the procedure to whatever governing bodies.

I think the rules are completely overboard.

It's not overboard. The rules are there. Being professional, you need to follow.

Its one thing to try to keep the sport clean to stop intentional use of performance enhancing drugs.

Its another to be completely ludicrous. Which these rules are that ban players for hair growth drugs or asthma medication or excessive caffeine.

You have guys that are afraid to take supplements, or have a cold/flu and are afraid to take medicine. That's not what the rules s/b for.

And this case just shows how completely dumb the rules are.

The problem is cheaters continue to try to find loopholes. Blame the cheaters, not the rule makers.

jazz_girl
10-04-2005, 08:46 PM
I can't believe this is actually true!!! :eek:

michelleg
10-04-2005, 08:51 PM
I am surprised Karsten Braasch hasn't failed a drug test, he smokes ( nicotine a drug) and doesn't mind a beer.

Amazingly enough, nicotine is not on the list of banned substances.

Saumon
10-04-2005, 09:04 PM
Next, some player will be banned for taking something in a plastic surgery operation to make them more beautiful to the women.
For how long will they ban Feli? :tape:

MariaV
10-04-2005, 09:07 PM
For how long will they ban Feli? :tape:
:haha: :haha:
You're all so funny guys but the subject of doping is actually very serious.

Lee
10-04-2005, 09:54 PM
I read these on SteveG's forum, although they don't 100% related to this thread ....

I really have to object to the use of the word 'doping' in this case. He used a prescription inhaler for his asthma and that was it. He was suspended because he failed to fill out the necessary paperwork in advance to get permission to use it. He's out for 6 weeks.

Fully agree with Fiona; we shouldn't use "doping" for this case. Still, we should use "doping" for the Puerta case. He was also suspended for anti-asthma medication. However, he got a 6-month suspension (4 times longer).
Also, we shouldn't use "doping" for the Oliver diuretic case. Still, we should use "doping" for the Canias case. He was also suspended for diuretics. However, he got a 2-year suspension (8 times or so longer than Oliver?).
The difference? We apply the word "doping" to one and not to the other. Lexical differences, other things being equal, produce different sanctions. Or, different sanctions, other things being equal, produce lexical differences. Or maybe both differences have a common cause: the three letters within the () at the end of the player's name.

jazz_girl
10-04-2005, 10:16 PM
I read these on SteveG's forum, although they don't 100% related to this thread ....
I agree completly with the second post :yeah:

cecilija
10-04-2005, 10:58 PM
me too :)
I agree completly with the second post :yeah:

Haute
10-05-2005, 01:03 AM
I think this is another farce, it seems they'll ban anyone, I mean alcohol is a drug, are they going to ban players for drinking next???

Alcohol isn't exactly performance enhancing. ;) :lol:

savesthedizzle
10-05-2005, 01:07 AM
Alcohol isn't exactly performance enhancing. ;) :lol:


If it was, no way does Tommy Robredo lose to Mardy Fish in the DC final last year on clay. :eek: lol.

Gonzalo81
10-05-2005, 01:14 AM
I agree completly with the second post :yeah:

Me too

sigmagirl91
10-05-2005, 02:14 AM
Just my 2 cents: this is some fucked-up shit. How in the hell are you gonna ban someone for however long for a "bald hair" remedy, as it were? This is just too stupid now-and an anticlimactic end to the saga of "whodunit".

~EMiLiTA~
10-05-2005, 07:43 AM
so is this running in tandem with the puerta allegation now?

Action Jackson
10-05-2005, 08:45 AM
For how long will they ban Feli? :tape:

Hahahaha.

At least they got the name Mariano right.

sigmagirl91
10-05-2005, 10:30 AM
so is this running in tandem with the puerta allegation now?

Who knows?

fabolous
10-05-2005, 10:46 AM
Hahahaha.

At least they got the name Mariano right.
i thought that, too! :lol:

zoltan83
10-06-2005, 09:53 PM
Dopage - Un autre Argentin, Mariano Hood, contrôlé positif selon la presse
AFP 06.10.05 | 21h04

Un autre joueur de tennis argentin, Mariano Hood, a été contrôlé positif au tournoi de Roland-Garros selon l'édition de jeudi du quotidien La Nacion.

Le cas de Hood, 26e joueur mondial en double, arrive en pleine lumière après la polémique déclenchée mercredi par le quotidien sportif français L'Equipe qui annonçait que l'Argentin Mariano Puerta (10e joueur mondial) avait été contrôlé positif à l'issue de sa finale perdue à Roland-Garros le 5 juin.



Les analyses pratiquées sur Hood révèlent la présence de finasteride, un médicament pour arrêter la chute des cheveux, selon le journal argentin. Le joueur perd effectivement ses cheveux, mais le finasteride a aussi la propriété de masquer la présence de substances dopantes et était inscrit depuis novembre 2004 sur la liste des produits interdits par l'Agence mondiale antidopage (AMA).

Contrairement à Puerta, Hood a été prévenu par la Fédération internationale du tennis (ITF) qui lui a notifié son contrôle positif. L'ITF devrait examiner son cas dans les prochains jours, selon La Nacion.

Hood est le sixième Argentin convaincu de dopage, le septième "cas" argentin en tenant compte de la première infraction de Mariano Puerta, contrôlé positif au clenbuterol, un stéroïde anabolisant, en janvier 2003 et suspendu neuf mois entre le 1er octobre 2003 et le 1er juillet 2004.

En août dernier, Guillermo Canas, contrôlé positif à Acapulco en février, avait été suspendu pour deux ans. En 2000, Juan Antonio Chela avait écopé de trois mois pour usage d'anabolisants, un an plus tard, Guillermo Coria avait purgé sept mois de peine pour le même délit et en 2003, Martin Rodriguez avait été privé de ses points ATP et de ses primes.

Hood, 32 ans, n'a jamais atteint les sommets du classement individuel de l'ATP.


Sorry if it's only in french...But basically it said that Hood was controled positive (finasteride ==> against baldness but it is also a banned product because it masks the presence of other drugs) and that the positive controle have been notified to Hood.

hablovah19
10-06-2005, 10:06 PM
Dopage - Un autre Argentin, Mariano Hood, contrôlé positif selon la presse
AFP 06.10.05 | 21h04

Un autre joueur de tennis argentin, Mariano Hood, a été contrôlé positif au tournoi de Roland-Garros selon l'édition de jeudi du quotidien La Nacion.

Le cas de Hood, 26e joueur mondial en double, arrive en pleine lumière après la polémique déclenchée mercredi par le quotidien sportif français L'Equipe qui annonçait que l'Argentin Mariano Puerta (10e joueur mondial) avait été contrôlé positif à l'issue de sa finale perdue à Roland-Garros le 5 juin.



Les analyses pratiquées sur Hood révèlent la présence de finasteride, un médicament pour arrêter la chute des cheveux, selon le journal argentin. Le joueur perd effectivement ses cheveux, mais le finasteride a aussi la propriété de masquer la présence de substances dopantes et était inscrit depuis novembre 2004 sur la liste des produits interdits par l'Agence mondiale antidopage (AMA).

Contrairement à Puerta, Hood a été prévenu par la Fédération internationale du tennis (ITF) qui lui a notifié son contrôle positif. L'ITF devrait examiner son cas dans les prochains jours, selon La Nacion.

Hood est le sixième Argentin convaincu de dopage, le septième "cas" argentin en tenant compte de la première infraction de Mariano Puerta, contrôlé positif au clenbuterol, un stéroïde anabolisant, en janvier 2003 et suspendu neuf mois entre le 1er octobre 2003 et le 1er juillet 2004.

En août dernier, Guillermo Canas, contrôlé positif à Acapulco en février, avait été suspendu pour deux ans. En 2000, Juan Antonio Chela avait écopé de trois mois pour usage d'anabolisants, un an plus tard, Guillermo Coria avait purgé sept mois de peine pour le même délit et en 2003, Martin Rodriguez avait été privé de ses points ATP et de ses primes.

Hood, 32 ans, n'a jamais atteint les sommets du classement individuel de l'ATP.


Sorry if it's only in french...But basically it said that Hood was controled positive (finasteride ==> against baldness but it is also a banned product because it masks the presence of other drugs) and that the positive controle have been notified to Hood.
de mal en pis ... :o

mandoura
10-07-2005, 02:02 AM
Agassi doesn't fail drug tests.

Maybe because viagra is not on the list yet.

mandoura
10-07-2005, 02:03 AM
I agree completly with the second post :yeah:

Me too.

Thanx Lee. :)

mandoura
10-07-2005, 02:48 AM
so is this running in tandem with the puerta allegation now?

Yes.

Is Puerta off the hook?

sigmagirl91
10-07-2005, 02:49 AM
Yes.

Is Puerta off the hook?


No. According to the kangaroo court that is L'Equipe, he's very much on the hook.

mandoura
10-07-2005, 02:52 AM
Why isn't there any comment or clarification from the ITF or ATP?

sigmagirl91
10-07-2005, 02:54 AM
Why isn't there any comment or clarification from the ITF or ATP?

Protocol. If they are following their own rules, then they must forward their findings to a tribunal, who will review the evidence and render a verdict. As of right now, this process is not completed.

mandoura
10-07-2005, 02:57 AM
This protocol should be reviewed.

sigmagirl91
10-07-2005, 02:58 AM
This protocol should be reviewed.

In light of all that's happened, the entire process should be reviewed.

mandoura
10-07-2005, 03:03 AM
Indeed