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Would you like to see a tennistic Ryder Cup ??

Galaxystorm
10-02-2005, 04:38 PM
I mean, an international competition between America ( in this case all the continent, not just US as golf case ) against Europe ??

Imagine that the competition consisted in 8 matches, 4 singles plus 4 doubles on the four surfaces ( outdoors hard, clay , indoor carpet and grass ) ...( In case of draw there would be a ninth match, one off play off match between the two number 1 and the surface would be decided by draw

Rules :

* Each captain ( american and european ) has to choose 8 players
* The four singles matches have to be played by 4 different players
* The four doubles matches have to be played by the 8 players ( 4 couples)
* All the players have to play one or two matches , no match or more than 2 is impossible
* A player can play the singles and doubles match on different surfaces
* We imagine there aren't injuries ( that is, we don't need nine players ).

Who are your 8 picks ??, and please specify every player which match/es would play ..

I would prefer every person only chose the 8 players of a continent , because i've realized that if you try to choose both teams it's very difficult to be objective and above all you have a lot of strategic problems being at the same time european and american captain, it's crazy .



And don't forget to choose the captain too.

These are my picks for Europe :

* Federer ( singles on grass )
* Nadal ( singles on clay )
* Ljubicic ( singles on carpet )
* Safin ( singles on hard )


* Federer and Bjorkman ( doubles on grass)
* Nadal and Verdasco ( doubles on clay )
* Ljubicic and Mirnyi ( doubles on carpet)
* Safin and Novak ( doubles on hard )

CAPTAIN : Peter Lundgren

TheBoiledEgg
10-02-2005, 05:12 PM
didnt you know Andy Murray could beat them all playing back to back ???

Margy
10-02-2005, 05:53 PM
What about South America? can't they play too? It should be easy enough to come up with 8 South Americans. Of course they'd all want to play the matches on clay. :D

Or did you mean to include them in the american group to begin with? :confused:

Nathaliia
10-02-2005, 05:59 PM
South America? We could have Nalbandian on grass, Puerta on clay, Coria on hard and I wanted to write Canas on carpet but ehh... maybe Massu in his good shape? We can always tell him he's playing for his country like in Athens :lol:

Doubles? for sure Nalbandian and Puerta on grass together! Massu / Gonzalez on hard, Prieto / Calleri on clay and Etlis / Rodriguez on carpet :D

Galaxystorm
10-02-2005, 06:11 PM
At least in my country we consider America as a unique continent not dividing north and south

America , according to my meaning = From Canada to Chile

Nathaliia
10-02-2005, 06:15 PM
lol, sorry ;) but knowing my love to Latin America, I'll leave my types and believe in spirit fight of those guys.

PS. In my country saying "America" we think "USA" with the first impression. I didn't think long enough to have the second impression.

Galaxystorm
10-02-2005, 06:20 PM
lol, sorry ;) but knowing my love to Latin America, I'll leave my types and believe in spirit fight of those guys.

PS. In my country saying "America" we think "USA" with the first impression. I didn't think long enough to have the second impression.

In my country also America can be used for a lot of things ( USA etc ).

I know my english is horrible but... have you read my first post ????. In my first post i think that i have made clear that although Ryder cup is only US against Europe, in this case, this tennistic Ryder cup would be America ( all the continent, from Canada to Chile ) against Europe

Margy
10-02-2005, 06:27 PM
In my school, and in the game "Risk", North and South America are 2 different continents.

But, this is your game; so we can play with your rules :D

It does at least give America some clay court players :lol:

KFB
10-02-2005, 06:32 PM
There are just 5 continents: Europe, America, Africa, Asia and Oceania. Why do you think that the olympic rings are just five? Bye

Phunkadelicious
10-02-2005, 06:37 PM
nah, leave that bs to golf

Galaxystorm
10-02-2005, 06:38 PM
There are just 5 continents: Europe, America, Africa, Asia and Oceania. Why do you think that the olympic rings are just five? Bye

It seems that there are different theories and points of view about the number of continents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent

I also consider 5 continents.

Galaxystorm
10-02-2005, 06:40 PM
In my school, and in the game "Risk", North and South America are 2 different continents.

But, this is your game; so we can play with your rules :D

It does at least give America some clay court players :lol:

US against Europe would be a competition with a clear winner . US needs south american players to reach the level , obviously on clay, and also on grass and carpet with Nalbandian..

KFB
10-02-2005, 06:51 PM
Yeah, without the players from south america( a region of the globe like middle east is) America team would lose pretty easily. No fun at all.

Margy
10-02-2005, 07:47 PM
It seems that there are different theories and points of view about the number of continents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent

I also consider 5 continents.

And I went to the school that taught 7 :p

So, I'm still not sure though what the idea is here. Is it "the Americas" vs "Europe" meaning Eurasia? Or is it really "the Americas" vs "the rest of the world"? Because no matter if you use the 5 or 7 continent model, you will not get Lleyton Hewitt, Huss/Moodie, or Erlich/Ram into America or Europe?

So are we excluding those not in the 2 "big" continents? Or is it "rest of the world"? Still :confused:

El Legenda
10-02-2005, 07:55 PM
there is just no time on the calander to due this. they play from jan-nov. take 2 weeks off, the start getting ready for AO. just no time. and getting rid of Davis Cup would never happen.

El Legenda
10-02-2005, 07:56 PM
There are just 5 continents: Europe, America, Africa, Asia and Oceania. Why do you think that the olympic rings are just five? Bye

7. bye.

KFB
10-02-2005, 07:59 PM
If someone wants to use more than 5 continents, please don't forget to include Central America. So this meeting should be Europe x America ( and I mean the whole America) or Europe ( since you have Federer, Nadal, Safin, and others playing for this continent) x the rest of the world ( so, you could include Hewitt as well)?. Bye.

Galaxystorm
10-02-2005, 09:02 PM
I never thought it would be so difficult to choose 8 american ( From Canada to Chile ) players or 8 europeans.

Now this seems a thread about geography when i wanted to talk about tennis :sad: , even some people is talking about Eurasia :banghead:

Definitely my english level sucks because i'm not able to express that EUROPEEEEEEEEEEEE IS EUROPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...:retard:

If i could i would delete this thread :(

Margy
10-02-2005, 09:50 PM
I never thought it would be so difficult to choose 8 american ( From Canada to Chile ) players or 8 europeans.

Now this seems a thread about geography when i wanted to talk about tennis :sad: , even some people is talking about Eurasia :banghead:

Definitely my english level sucks because i'm not able to express that EUROPEEEEEEEEEEEE IS EUROPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...:retard:

If i could i would delete this thread :(

:lol: No, no ... don't give up yet :lol:

It just really is confusing as you see in the wikipedia link you posted. Not everyone understands exactly which countries are included in your categories.

OK..so America is everything in North and South America, from Canada to Chile. I think we're good with that one. :yeah:

Now... what countries do you mean for Europe? Because you have Safin in your choice and he would be Asia for me. Or he could be in if you mean Eurasia (combining Europe and Asia into a large continent - see Wikipedia definition). But do you definitely mean only Europe and not rest of the world which eliminates people from Australia, Africa, Middle East.

Just specify where your European border is, please. And don't get upset...geography lessons are fun :D

Castafiore
10-02-2005, 09:55 PM
Safin is born in Moscow. Moscow is part of Europe! So, Safin = European.

Also, Europe = Europe so NOT Eurasia. Simple.

Nathaliia
10-02-2005, 09:55 PM
No i think no need to! We can learn about different aspects of counting continents, I think it's great!
As about Central America, we have Ronald Agenor :tape:, Mark Knowles, Mark Merklein and finally Ryan "The Sweet Thing" boys USO winner 2005! or Juan Antonio Marin plus Jean Julien Rojer if you'd like to. And Rios' ex-wife from Costa Rica (would she help?)
soon there will come up Rafael Arevalo from El Salvador!
PS. Do you count Mexico as Central America? I'd consider it as North, still.

i am very keen on geography! I love learning things about various countries and their political systems ;) and i used to know all capital cities of all countrys in the world but haven't checked my knowledge for kinda a year ;) i was trying to learn all the flags, but it's more difficult ;)
(don't ask me Q about it cause i'm gone tomorrow morning)

Galaxystorm
10-02-2005, 10:17 PM
Sargsian is already retired but he's asian not european ..I'm sure a lot of people unconsciously considered him as european.

Margy
10-02-2005, 10:18 PM
Safin is born in Moscow. Moscow is part of Europe! So, Safin = European.

Also, Europe = Europe so NOT Eurasia. Simple.

Wikipedia definition:
Europe is geologically and geographically a peninsula, forming the westernmost part of Eurasia. It is conventionally considered a continent, which, in this case, is more of a cultural distinction than a geographic one. It is bounded to the north by the Arctic Ocean, to the west by the Atlantic Ocean, to the south by the Mediterranean Sea, and to the east its boundary is culturally determined and unclear. However, Ural mountains are considered to be a clear geographical and tectonic landmark separating Europe and Asia.

Hmm, as the def says, the eastern boundary of Europe is culturally determined and unclear. Your version and mine are obviously different. Maybe Safin was born west of the Ural Mts, but he plays as a Russian which is predominantly east of the Urals. I didn't know that we'd have to know exactly where people were born to consider them, just what country they represent. This game is getting more and more educational :lol:

Nathaliia
10-02-2005, 10:25 PM
for example Israel plays European Championships Q in football when everybody knows Israel is not in Europe.

thing is more wicked we suppose.

Galaxystorm
10-02-2005, 10:28 PM
for example Israel plays European Championships Q in football when everybody knows Israel is not in Europe.

thing is more wicked we suppose.

Israel and some former asian soviet republics...

Margy
10-02-2005, 10:35 PM
Israel and some former asian soviet republics...

so are we counting israel as europe...that gives erlich/ram a doubles spot

Nathaliia
10-02-2005, 10:46 PM
so if we're counting Soviet Republics to Europe... Sargsian is European as well! And most of his steady life he spent in USA ;) eg. Poland bet Azerbaijan in Euro Q in football 8/0 yeah!!!

and my groupmate from Kazakhstan swear it's the Asian republic, while in some publications (not even counting stupid Euro Q) it's mentioned to be half in Europe. Tatiana (the friend) says it's bullshit.

RogiFan88
10-02-2005, 11:12 PM
US vs. the WORLD?? nope

cecilija
10-02-2005, 11:28 PM
My america team
singles
agassi (hard)
roddick (grass)
coria (clay)
nalbandian (carpet)
doubles
massu gonzalez (hard)
nalbandian coria (clay)
agassi roddick (grass)
B. Bryan M. Bryan (carpet)

Margy
10-02-2005, 11:42 PM
US vs. the WORLD?? nope

No, I think the AMERICAS (North, Central, South America) vs the WORLD (everybody else) ! :D

KFB
10-02-2005, 11:57 PM
My America Team:
Singles:
Roddick ( grass)
Nalbadian (carpet)
Agassi (hard)
Coria ( clay)
Doubles :
Coria/Puerta( clay)
Gonzalez/Nalbadian (grass)
Ginepri/Agassi(hard)
Roddick/Blake ( carpet)
Europe Team:
Federer( grass)
Safin (hard)
Nadal (clay)
Lubjici( carpet)
Doubles:
Federer/Bjorkman(grass)
Safin/Davydenko (hard)
Nadal/Verdasco ( clay)Lu
Lubijici/Ancic ( carpet)

KFB
10-02-2005, 11:59 PM
Mexico is North America. I guess someone asked. Bye

Melvins
10-03-2005, 12:26 AM
My tennistic Ryder Cup:

Americas-Oceanias team vs Euro-Asia-Africa team

5 singles (hard, clay, grass, indoor, hard) and 2 doubles (clay and hard). Each player can play 2 matchs (2 singles or single/double).

The 5 singles:

hard - Hewitt vs Federer
clay - Coria vs Nadal
grass - Roddick vs Federer
indoor - Hewitt vs Safin
hard - Roddick vs Safin

Doubles (I don't follow much it):

clay - Bryan Brothers vs Nadal/Lopez
hard - Knowles/Nestor vs Black/Ullyett

uNIVERSE mAN
10-03-2005, 03:00 AM
It's called the Davis Cup you fool.