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Sorry to start another Federer thread..:p

Purple Rainbow
09-29-2005, 06:12 PM
....but I just wanted to point your attention to the fact that Roger is on his longest ever winning streak. Ever since losing to Rafa at Roland Garros, Federer has won 28 consecutive wins. Victory over Gilles Muller will put Roger equal with Sampras' longest streak of 29 matches won, set in 1994.

Here are some winning streak records!

There were 5 players who won 30+ consecutive matches in the open era.

OPEN ERA WINNING STREAKS

1. Bjorn Borg 49 (1978)
2. Guillermo Vilas 46 (1977)
3. Ivan Lendl 44 (1981-82)
4. John McEnroe 42 (1984)
5. Bjorn Borg 40 (1979-80)
6. Thomas Muster 35 (1995)
7. Roger Federer 31 and counting (2005)

WINNING STREAKS SINCE 1990

1. Thomas Muster 35 (1995)
2. Roger Federer 31 and counting (2005)
3. Pete Sampras 29 (1994)
4. Andre Agassi 26 (1995)
Roger Federer 26 (2004-5)
6. Jim Courier 25 (1992)
Roger Federer 25 (2005)
8. Pete Sampras 24 (1999)
Rafael Nadal 24 (2005)
9. Roger Federer 23 (2004)

cecilija
09-29-2005, 06:13 PM
thank u very much, this is a very interesting thread

cecilija
09-29-2005, 06:14 PM
Federer will surpass Sampras for sure

1sun
09-29-2005, 06:17 PM
still pretty low compared to others. whats his hard streak at the mo?

Purple Rainbow
09-29-2005, 06:20 PM
still pretty low compared to others. whats his hard streak at the mo?

Somewehere in the mid 30's. Can't be bothered to count his results since the Aussie Open. ;)

Phunkadelicious
09-29-2005, 06:21 PM
hi 1sun :wavey: how arya
Federer deserves all the praise he gets, albeit begrudgingly :ras:

TheMightyFed
09-29-2005, 06:22 PM
Are you sure it's not Vilas who has the record with 50, ended by Nastase with the spaghetti strings ?
That's what says the hall of fame....
http://www.tennisfame.org/enshrinees/guillermo_vilas.html
I think Borg had a few WO in the process of hi streak, maybe that's why...
I've never been able to find the answer on this BTW
Roger, get this record to clarify things !!

1sun
09-29-2005, 06:25 PM
Somewehere in the mid 30's. Can't be bothered to count his results since the Aussie Open. ;)
just worked it out, hes won 6 straight hard titles, 35 matchs, 37 including his wins at bangkok so far, if he wins bang, then it will 40 straight matchs, 7 straight titles, now that would be impressive.

1sun
09-29-2005, 06:26 PM
hi 1sun :wavey: how arya
Federer deserves all the praise he gets, albeit begrudgingly :ras:
hey yeah im good,yourself? one long day at college, 9.30-5.15.
lol you keep prasing him boy! ;)

Phunkadelicious
09-29-2005, 06:28 PM
my long school day was yesterday, about the same as you, today I only have one class thats an hour and a half long, but its english :( I never do the reading before class. But I am good, I am watching the karate kid before class :bounce: makes me feel macho like Ralph Macchio :p

Purple Rainbow
09-29-2005, 06:29 PM
Sorry everybody! My statsa re apparently shiite, copied them from a thread in the Federer forum. :p
I'll edit it for Vilas and Nadal!

Phunkadelicious
09-29-2005, 06:29 PM
hey yeah im good,yourself? one long day at college, 9.30-5.15.
lol you keep prasing him boy! ;)


FEDERER YOU'RE SO BIG AND STRONG :drool:

1sun
09-29-2005, 06:47 PM
my long school day was yesterday, about the same as you, today I only have one class thats an hour and a half long, but its english :( I never do the reading before class. But I am good, I am watching the karate kid before class :bounce: makes me feel macho like Ralph Macchio :p
damn i love that film!
yeah ive only got 2 class's tomorrow but have a shit load of studying to do over the weekend.
lol, you still do english? :nerner: i dropped that,hated it. doing maths, economics and bio

1sun
09-29-2005, 06:47 PM
FEDERER YOU'RE SO BIG AND STRONG :drool:
lol :yeah:

cecilija
09-29-2005, 07:01 PM
yes ur right vilas has the record.
even it should be better if nastase the cheater had not cheated with that strings.
Are you sure it's not Vilas who has the record with 50, ended by Nastase with the spaghetti strings ?
That's what says the hall of fame....
http://www.tennisfame.org/enshrinees/guillermo_vilas.html
I think Borg had a few WO in the process of hi streak, maybe that's why...
I've never been able to find the answer on this BTW
Roger, get this record to clarify things !!

NYCtennisfan
09-29-2005, 08:08 PM
The real goal is 35 because you can't compare pre-1990 stretches with post-1990 undefeated stretcehs. The reason is because the TMS events have made it impossible to play any length of matches without facing a top player also playing well. In the old days, you have maybe the top 2 palyers on a surface meet in some torunies and of course the slams along with DC. Now you have them meet every couple of weeks thanks to the TMS events.

To get to 30 wins in a row in this era on different surfaces and going through two slams and a TMS event is amazing.

mangoes
09-29-2005, 08:08 PM
Very Impressive

PaulieM
09-29-2005, 08:49 PM
still pretty low compared to others. whats his hard streak at the mo?
somewhere around 35 i think, he beat sampras' hard streak at the uso. :shrug:

R.Federer
09-29-2005, 09:21 PM
nice statistic, thank you

Phunkadelicious
09-29-2005, 09:40 PM
damn i love that film!
yeah ive only got 2 class's tomorrow but have a shit load of studying to do over the weekend.
lol, you still do english? :nerner: i dropped that,hated it. doing maths, economics and bio

I need an English credit to get my Bachelors

Galaxystorm
09-29-2005, 11:54 PM
Nadal talking about Federer's innate talent : " Roger is someone almost unrepeatable "


Comments made in a radio interview some minutes ago.

Blaze
09-30-2005, 12:04 AM
Nadal talking about Federer's innate talent : " Roger is someone almost unrepeatable "


Comments made in a radio interview some minutes ago.


Whats' the meaning of that?

Sjengster
09-30-2005, 12:08 AM
It means we'll rarely see the like of him again.

Galaxystorm
09-30-2005, 12:08 AM
Whats' the meaning of that?

He meant that Federer's talent is incredibly amazing and it will be very difficult to see another player in the future with the same innate talent.

lunahielo
09-30-2005, 12:17 AM
Great stats!
Thanks.

Keep on rolling, Rogi~~~~ :)

soonha
09-30-2005, 12:28 AM
My statsa re apparently shiite, copied them from a thread in the Federer forum.
Hello, I'm the one who posted those stats in the Federer forum(http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=2377707&postcount=56). I was referring to tennis-x (http://www.tennis-x.com/stats/tennisrecords.php) and then updated Federer's 2005 streaks for myself, I missed Nadal's streak though(cuz I didn't care his streaks :p ). However, according to ATP website, Vilas' 1977 winning streak is 46 not 50.(http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/Highlights/default.asp?playernumber=V028) I don't know which is correct. Anyone knows about this record?

Edit: There was a typo. It's 46, not 47. Sorry!

Sjengster
09-30-2005, 12:31 AM
It actually says 46, and it's correct. It was in a thread on here recently asking who had the longest winning streak, George posted stats from the ITF website showing Vilas' record in the latter half of 1977. 46 wins post-Wimbledon, halted by Nastase in the final of Aix-en-Provence with his souped-up racquet. So Borg has the record with 49 in 1978, because a couple of walkovers he had to give don't officially count as losses, bearing in mind no match was actually played.

Purple Rainbow
09-30-2005, 12:54 AM
And the 1st post edited once again.. :p
It strikes me that there is no website where you can find all tennis stats and records neatly collected. SteveG has a great database if you want to do some research yourself, but clearly it would be great if there was a site where you can find all sorts of statisctical stuff, like tournament winners, streaks, win-loss records etc.

Corey Feldman
09-30-2005, 01:01 AM
another interesting stat for Federer, this week he's trying to win his 5th tournament in a row..
he's had 3 previous chances to do this and lost (2004 Cincinnati R1, 2005 Australian Open SF and 2005 Monte Carlo QF)

Sjengster
09-30-2005, 01:04 AM
And the 1st post edited once again.. :p
It strikes me that there is no website where you can find all tennis stats and records neatly collected. SteveG has a great database if you want to do some research yourself, but clearly it would be great if there was a site where you can find all sorts of statisctical stuff, like tournament winners, streaks, win-loss records etc.

That's kind of what I'm trying to create in the Statistics forum on here, if anyone's noticed. :p

But it's tricky, because there is no single official set of stats for the early 70s when there was more than just the ATP Tour around. The boycott year of 1973, for instance, has tons of info on tournament winners missing from the ATP website, and it's not all there on the ITF one either when you look up player activity from that period.

Purple Rainbow
09-30-2005, 01:08 AM
That's kind of what I'm trying to create in the Statistics forum on here, if anyone's noticed. :p


Yeah, I noticed! And you're doing a great job, mate! :yeah:

What is this whole boycott year thing?

Sjengster
09-30-2005, 01:18 AM
1973, the year that most players boycotted Wimbledon because of a dispute over one player not being allowed to compete there - I'm fuzzy on the details, but I think it was related to DC and his national federation. You had the ATP being established that year, and a lot of upheaval that's reflected in the statistics for that period. I mean, in the Results Archive on the ATP website there's a massive gap for 1973 where most of the tournament results should be.

mandoura
09-30-2005, 01:27 AM
Great thread Stef.

The links hereunder are full of statistics:

http://www.tennis-x.com/stats/tennisrecords.php
http://www.tennisfacts.com/index.html

Art&Soul
09-30-2005, 03:20 AM
He meant that Federer's talent is incredibly amazing and it will be very difficult to see another player in the future with the same innate talent.

Ditto :) Hope his final streak will never end.......... ;)

TenHound
09-30-2005, 05:15 AM
Sjengster, have you checked out the tennis-x link? Stats goofy. They list Pete's Wimby record as 7-0. Huh...anyone remember him losing to some kid named um...roger something or other there??

landoud
09-30-2005, 08:35 AM
we want more records fed

Satanic Pasteur
09-30-2005, 09:37 AM
Sjengster, have you checked out the tennis-x link? Stats goofy. They list Pete's Wimby record as 7-0. Huh...anyone remember him losing to some kid named um...roger something or other there??

7-0 in finals.

TheMightyFed
09-30-2005, 09:41 AM
Sjengster, have you checked out the tennis-x link? Stats goofy. They list Pete's Wimby record as 7-0. Huh...anyone remember him losing to some kid named um...roger something or other there??
tennis-x stats are crap, they always screw up numbers, don't trust them on records...

TheMightyFed
09-30-2005, 09:45 AM
That's kind of what I'm trying to create in the Statistics forum on here, if anyone's noticed. :p

But it's tricky, because there is no single official set of stats for the early 70s when there was more than just the ATP Tour around. The boycott year of 1973, for instance, has tons of info on tournament winners missing from the ATP website, and it's not all there on the ITF one either when you look up player activity from that period.
BTW, do you know why they put only the Laver GS in ITF database while oin Hall of Fame stat they say he won tons of tournaments (like 17 or so) ?

soonha
09-30-2005, 01:14 PM
Sjengster, have you checked out the tennis-x link? Stats goofy. They list Pete's Wimby record as 7-0. Huh...anyone remember him losing to some kid named um...roger something or other there??
tennis-x stats are crap, they always screw up numbers, don't trust them on records...
But this time they are correct. That's a W/L record in FINALS. Can it be true that Sampras played at Wimbledon just seven times?

Corey Feldman
09-30-2005, 01:48 PM
Sjengster, have you checked out the tennis-x link? Stats goofy. They list Pete's Wimby record as 7-0. Huh...anyone remember him losing to some kid named um...roger something or other there??
dont tell me you thought sampras has only ever won 7 matches at wimbledon and never lost? :o
obviously the 7-0 is his win/loss in finals

Dirk
09-30-2005, 02:43 PM
DON'T EVER BE SORRY FOR STARTING A NINJA THREAD!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

Pea
09-30-2005, 02:52 PM
Good stuff.

tangerine_dream
09-30-2005, 05:42 PM
At least this thread is interesting. :p Thanks for the stats.

....but I just wanted to point your attention to the fact that Roger is on his longest ever winning streak. Ever since losing to Rafa at Roland Garros, Federer has won 28 consecutive wins. Victory over Gilles Muller will put Roger equal with Sampras' longest streak of 29 matches won, set in 1994.

Here are some winning streak records!

There were 5 players who won 30+ consecutive matches in the open era.

OPEN ERA WINNING STREAKS

1. Bjorn Borg 49 (1978)
2. Guillermo Vilas 46 (1977)
3. Ivan Lendl 44 (1981-82)
4. John McEnroe 42 (1984)
5. Bjorn Borg 40 (1979-80)
6. Thomas Muster 35 (1995)


WINNING STREAKS SINCE 1990

1. Thomas Muster 35 (1995)
2. Pete Sampras 29 (1994)
3. Roger Federer 28 and counting (1995)
4. Andre Agassi 26 (1995)
Roger Federer 26 (2004-5)
6. Jim Courier 25 (1992)
Roger Federer 25 (2005)
8. Pete Sampras 24 (1999)
Rafael Nadal 24 (2005)
9. Roger Federer 23 (2004)

Purple Rainbow
10-03-2005, 12:30 AM
Updated!
Federer's Bangkok victory left him with 31 straight victories, enough to surpass Sampras' record run of 28.
Next up is Muster with a staggering 35 match winning streak, the longest such since McEnroe in '84. History in the making, people! :)

LLeytonRules
10-03-2005, 02:20 AM
That 49 by Borg is unreal :eek: , Federer is at 31, that means he basically has to win in Madrid, in basel, in Paris and at the tennis masters cup.