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Is Roger's racquet a paint job?

nobama
09-29-2005, 01:25 AM
On Roger's website he says he's using the Wilson nSix-One Tour 90 Racquet. I saw this thread on the tennis-warehouse message boards...the boardies there are convinced his racquet is a paint job and he really uses a Wilson Pro Staff. Now from a photo I saw of him from Thailand the logo on the plastic wrapping around his racquet said P1. Does anyone know what that stands for? I'm guessing what the pros use is not the same as what's sold to the public, but why would Roger lie about the racquet he uses?

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=69986

PaulieM
09-29-2005, 01:33 AM
people say that a lot of players use paint jobs because the companies always want them to help push the newest product which despite the fact that it's dishonest makes plenty of sense. no clue if roger's really is a paint job though. not sure what the P1 means but it could be a lot of things. :shrug:

nobama
09-29-2005, 01:37 AM
Well here's a year old ESPN story on "paintjobs". Roger's not mentioned in the article but Hewitt and others are. I don't understand why it's a big deal if the pros are using something different than what the public can buy. Maybe it'd be different with a sport like golf, but how many non professionals would even be able to play with a racquet like Roger's?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=1872892&type=story

PaulieM
09-29-2005, 02:31 AM
I don't understand why it's a big deal if the pros are using something different than what the public can buy. Maybe it'd be different with a sport like golf, but how many non professionals would even be able to play with a racquet like Roger's?

most people probably can't really play with a racquet like roger's but would like to think that owning his racquet might help them play better, which is enough to get them to buy it. which of course makes people are willing to pay more money for it than any regular racquet that would probably be better for them. basically people are silly enough to fall/ pay for the "possibility" that is being sold. "if roger plays great with that racquet then maybe i can too etc." of course it's silly but if people are willing to pay a lot of money for a product that that plays into their desire emulate a certain player or celebrity's ability or lifestyle, why not capitalize on it. it's the same reason that people pay models and singers to endorse any product, buying the product isn't going to make you more like that person but the goal is to sell the consumer on the idea that it might, sell the lifestyle/image or in roger's case the "possibility of his skill". it really doesn't take much to persuade people. :shrug:


i feel really embarassed right now that my chosen career path is to spend the rest of my life suckering people into buying stuff they don't need :o

LCeh
09-29-2005, 02:59 AM
From what I read on a lot of websites, either people say the racquet is too demanding for them to play with, or they say that the racquet has forced them to hit with better strokes/footwork, and helped them improve their game, so I guess there are always two sides to it.

One thing for sure is, this racquet is not for people that's taking tennis casually. Some of my friends that play tennis quite often say this racquet has too little power and the sweetspot is too small.

It also seems that almost everyone say that Roger isn't using this racquet, but the the old ProStaff. :shrug:

LCeh
09-29-2005, 03:38 AM
BTW, I just went on to Wilson's website and check out what they say.

Under NTour 90, it says "Roger Federer's Racquet of Choice", it didn't say anything like "The racquet Roger Federer plays his matches with", or anything remotely close to that. Heck, "Roger Federer's Racquet of Choice" can basically mean anything, it might be "Roger Federer's Racquet of choice when throwing at people", or "Roger Federer's Racquet of Choice when practising with his lefthand".

I guess you can't really say they are lying, so you can't really sue them for it. :shrug:

Stevens Point
09-29-2005, 06:30 AM
Roger uses nSix-One Tour. Here is the list of the Wilson players and their raquets.

http://wilson-ncode.jp/features/01tour.html

Stevens Point
09-29-2005, 06:44 AM
This is the one.

http://wilson-ncode.jp/images/products/nsix1-tour_14.jpg

RonE
09-29-2005, 07:30 AM
One thing for sure is, this racquet is not for people that's taking tennis casually. Some of my friends that play tennis quite often say this racquet has too little power and the sweetspot is too small.


That's what everyone said about Pete's racquet.

SUKTUEN
09-29-2005, 08:36 AM
It sale $1700 in china

nobama
09-29-2005, 10:51 AM
Roger uses nSix-One Tour. Here is the list of the Wilson players and their raquets.

http://wilson-ncode.jp/features/01tour.htmlYes, but some people don't believe it. They think he uses a different racquet with a "paint job" to look like a nSix-One Tour. That's why I'm wondering if anyone here knows for sure what he uses.

Stevens Point
09-29-2005, 01:58 PM
Yes, but some people don't believe it. They think he uses a different racquet with a "paint job" to look like a nSix-One Tour. That's why I'm wondering if anyone here knows for sure what he uses.
If you want to be sure, you could ask Roger in his website.. I guess that's the only way to be so sure about this, if they can't trust what the Wilson webiste is saying... :shrug:

SUKTUEN
09-29-2005, 05:08 PM
but it is also very diffcult of Roger's weapon

Rommella
10-01-2005, 05:13 PM
I've often wondered about the "P1" too. My guess is it stands for Player 1 (i.e., No. 1) -- the wrapping is done by tournament stringers and is probably one of the perks of being first among equals. Although truth be told, Federer is peerless.

TenHound
10-04-2005, 03:46 AM
Nike makes custom shoes for pro basketball players...Prob. same for tennis players. I dont' get it anyway. It's not the racquet he uses, it's what he does w/the racquet that matters. I can't imagine why anyone would think that the racquet used by the best to ever play the game would be the appropriate one for them.

Mirkaland suggested that asking Roger what racquet he uses would elicit correct info. Not necessarily...and it certainly wouldn't address customization...not to mention that so much of the spins he gets are because of the strings he uses...

nobama
10-04-2005, 03:57 AM
Mirkaland suggested that asking Roger what racquet he uses would elicit correct info. Not necessarily...and it certainly wouldn't address customization...not to mention that so much of the spins he gets are because of the strings he uses...No, I was just providing what Roger says he uses and that some think he's not really truthfull....probably that he's paid by Wilson to say he's using one racquet when in fact he's really using an older model. I've changed the title of the thread now.

TenHound
10-04-2005, 04:11 AM
Probably - that's about how sick things are now - some Pirates paying someone to say they use x, merely so they can sell it, when they really use y!!